Who Are The Palestinains?

[Kondor3]

And finally, to the consumers of the Israeli propaganda that attempts to delegitimize Palestinians by claiming that they are a recent invention by Arafat, source documentation from the UN Archives, check out the date of the meeting:

PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION. Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON: -
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See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

They were under the control of the British and they were never a State.

"A state" is a propaganda term. The legal rights of a people precede statehood. Statehood is the product of exercising rights not a prerequisite.

No.

A State is a chartered, incorporated polity, collectively representing a group of people, and, as a corporation, having its own rights at-law, held in trust for its people.

The legal rights of a people can, indeed, precede Statehood, when there exists a coherent and recognizable people to begin with, prior to Statehood.

That also assumes that those same people have the common sense to set up as a State in a timely manner to their own best advantage, and that those same people have the political and military power to enforce their will and to sustain a coherent identity and territory.

Given that the Palestinians did not even have the common sense that God gave an ant, to declare Statehood and Independence at the split-second that the Mandate terminated...

Given that the Palestinians allowed their Muslim neighbors to talk them into abandoning much of their land and to Skeddadle to refugee camps...

Given that the Palestinians allowed their Muslim neighbors to conduct their affairs on their behalf - largely due to incompetency and foolhardiness and primitivism...

Given that the Palestinians have never been able to "hold their own" - even with the massive help of a half-dozen or more Arab neighbor countries simultaneously, as well as second-hand assistance from the Soviet bloc and Iraq in the 1970s and 1980s...

Given that the Palestinians have phukked-up and pissed-away more chances to come to a middle-ground settlement that you can shake a stick at...

The Palestinians simply don't pass the Sniff Test, as a rational, sustainable, recognizable or coherent 'people'...

Never mind a State, which is no more than a joke, by any sane, rational standards used to gauge history, status and prospects...

The steamroller of history has already flattened the Palestinians...

Time to scrape 'em off the pavement and peel 'em apart into diverse segments and then disperse them into the surrounding region, and make an end to this...

Old legalities leaned-on so heavily by the Palestinians, and present-day Realities (to be reinforced and sustained in future) are entirely different animals...

 

[Roudy]

Palestinians are Jordanians.

Yasser Arafat made them up for political purposes.
All the while Yasser was Egyptian.

Palestine was always a territory and territories are never a State.
States have governments.
Territories have no government and are subjects of other governments.
The PLO invented the State of Palestine in 1988 and the U.N. bought it hook line and sinker.

Orwell would be proud of you, you mimic the brainwashed citizen perfectly. They say that propaganda works best with dummies, you prove that point with flying colors!

"Orwell?" Then let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:
"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

 

[Roudy]

Palestine was never a country. You keep repeating it as though it's going to become true somehow.

Really!
Tinnmore
Palestine was a territory and was run by the British.
Had Palestine been a State the British could never have declared Israel as a State to the Jews.

"The Palestine Mandate

ART. 2.

The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion......"


The Avalon Project : The Palestine Mandate

Jewish nation, Jewish nation, Jewish nation. Palestine was to be a JEWISH NATION, MOHOMOD.

You keep repeating the same idiotic lies and false propaganda, over and over and over.

 

[Roudy]

"The Palestine Mandate

ART. 2.

The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion......"


The Avalon Project : The Palestine Mandate

What does the top of the Mandate say?
said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine

Territory
Palestine was always a territory.

Territory refers to the former Turkish territory if you can read and it further states that "within such boundaries as may be fixed by them;" (the Allies) the country is formed, and in fact it is referred to as "country" several times afterwards and never again as "territory".

So it wasn't a country. The land belonged to the Ottoman Turks. So, Palestinians and Arabs have jackshit to say about what happens to "territory" that doesn't even belong to them.

 

[toastman]

And finally, to the consumers of the Israeli propaganda that attempts to delegitimize Palestinians by claiming that they are a recent invention by Arafat, source documentation from the UN Archives, check out the date of the meeting:

PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION. Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON: -
​

See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

They were under the control of the British and they were never a State.

"A state" is a propaganda term. The legal rights of a people precede statehood. Statehood is the product of exercising rights not a prerequisite.

So now the word 'State' is a propaganda term?? Where so you come up with this crap??

And why is it that whenever we discuss the status of Palestine as a state or territory, you always deflect and start talking about their right??
That's not even the issue and no one is claiming that they had no rights...

 

[Roudy]

And finally, to the consumers of the Israeli propaganda that attempts to delegitimize Palestinians by claiming that they are a recent invention by Arafat, source documentation from the UN Archives, check out the date of the meeting:

PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION. Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON: -
​

See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

They were under the control of the British and they were never a State.

"A state" is a propaganda term. The legal rights of a people precede statehood. Statehood is the product of exercising rights not a prerequisite.

Well, you heard it here first from our resident Hamas terrorist lover: "a state is a propaganda term". Ha ha ha ha. I have to tell you, you nutjobs are a barrel of laughs!

 

[montelatici]

Palestinians are Jordanians.

Yasser Arafat made them up for political purposes.
All the while Yasser was Egyptian.

Palestine was always a territory and territories are never a State.
States have governments.
Territories have no government and are subjects of other governments.
The PLO invented the State of Palestine in 1988 and the U.N. bought it hook line and sinker.

Orwell would be proud of you, you mimic the brainwashed citizen perfectly. They say that propaganda works best with dummies, you prove that point with flying colors!

"Orwell?" Then let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:
"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

Funny that there was a Palestinian delegation to London in 1922 when there were no Palestinians. Funnier still is that they were there with the Zionists. apparently. Propaganda can make whole nations disappear!

"PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION. Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON:"​

- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

 

[Roudy]

Orwell would be proud of you, you mimic the brainwashed citizen perfectly. They say that propaganda works best with dummies, you prove that point with flying colors!

"Orwell?" Then let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:
"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

Funny that there was a Palestinian delegation to London in 1922 when there were no Palestinians. Funnier still is that they were there with the Zionists. apparently. Propaganda can make whole nations disappear!

"PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION. Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON:"​

- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

OMG OMG OMG! The Arab animals protested ANY land to be given to the Jews! They wanted it to become exclusively Muslim shitholes! OMG OMG OMG! What a surprise! Let's listen to what one of the founders of PLO said about this so called "Palestine":

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -

 

[Roudy]

Funny, in July 1922, Jordan was to be ARAB PALESTINE and Israel was to be Jewish Palestine. Poor MOHOMOD Latici, can't stop lying and making shit up. LOL

 

[aris2chat]

Let us consider the facts. Fair enough?

http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/01/09/palestinians-invented-people/

excellent, thank you

 

[aris2chat]

Orwell would be proud of you, you mimic the brainwashed citizen perfectly. They say that propaganda works best with dummies, you prove that point with flying colors!

"Orwell?" Then let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:
"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

Funny that there was a Palestinian delegation to London in 1922 when there were no Palestinians. Funnier still is that they were there with the Zionists. apparently. Propaganda can make whole nations disappear!

"PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION. Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON:"​

- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

name for the mandate, not a people or nation............yet

 

[Kondor3]

...Propaganda can make whole nations disappear!

Yeah...

Jewish propaganda has erased...

The Kingdom of Palestine...

The Caliphate of Palestine...

The Kahnate of Palestine...

The Emirate of Palestine...

The Republic of Palestine...

Yadda, yadda, yadda... yap, yap, yap... blah, blah, blah...

They were all gone so fast that if you blinked twice, you missed 'em...

Oh, thou vile, wicked, Jooooooosss !!!

 

[Vigilante]

 

[Roudy]

"Orwell?" Then let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:
"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

Funny that there was a Palestinian delegation to London in 1922 when there were no Palestinians. Funnier still is that they were there with the Zionists. apparently. Propaganda can make whole nations disappear!

"PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION. Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON:"​

- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

name for the mandate, not a people or nation............yet

Plus it says "Arab Delgation". Arabs themselves were against a Palestinian state and laughed at it. They just wanted Israel to be divided among the savages.

 

[Roudy]

...Propaganda can make whole nations disappear!

Yeah...

Jewish propaganda has erased...

The Kingdom of Palestine...

The Caliphate of Palestine...

The Kahnate of Palestine...

The Emirate of Palestine...

The Republic of Palestine...

Yadda, yadda, yadda... yap, yap, yap... blah, blah, blah...

They were all gone so fast that if you blinked twice, you missed 'em...

Oh, thou vile, wicked, Jooooooosss !!!

All hail the wicked Jooos!

 

[Vigilante]

Will they ever learn?

’Dhimmi’ Western journalist who thought Muslims were his friends, was nearly beaten to death...

*Bare Naked Islam ^

...and shot by his Muslim ‘friends’ in Syria AWWWW War reporter was bound, beaten and shot twice in Syria by a Muslim ‘rebel’ he considered a friend. Anthony Loyd and photographer Jack Hill were snatched by gun-toting Hakim Anza’s gang – just hours after they had been guests in the warlord’s home. Times correspondent Loyd, 47, who feared he faced certain death, labeled the behavior of Anza in war-torn Syria “flawless treachery.” Loyd first met Hakim two years ago. The accountant, in his 30s, had been one of the earliest to rebel against President Assad. Writing in The Times, Loyd...

 

[montelatici]

"Orwell?" Then let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:
"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

Funny that there was a Palestinian delegation to London in 1922 when there were no Palestinians. Funnier still is that they were there with the Zionists. apparently. Propaganda can make whole nations disappear!

"PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION. Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON:"​

- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

name for the mandate, not a people or nation............yet

Sure, that's why there were the Egypt Arab Delegation, the Syria Arab Delegation etc. Boy, you guys are grasping at straws to try to delegitimize the Palestinians, won't work.

 

[Roudy]

Funny that there was a Palestinian delegation to London in 1922 when there were no Palestinians. Funnier still is that they were there with the Zionists. apparently. Propaganda can make whole nations disappear!

"PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION. Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON:"​

- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

name for the mandate, not a people or nation............yet

Sure, that's why there were the Egypt Arab Delegation, the Syria Arab Delegation etc. Boy, you guys are grasping at straws to try to delegitimize the Palestinians, won't work.

Palestinian Arab = Syrian Arab
Palestinian Arab = Egyptian Arab

Same shit, different day. Even the Arabs knew it.

 

[montelatici]

name for the mandate, not a people or nation............yet

Sure, that's why there were the Egypt Arab Delegation, the Syria Arab Delegation etc. Boy, you guys are grasping at straws to try to delegitimize the Palestinians, won't work.

Palestinian Arab = Syrian Arab
Palestinian Arab = Egyptian Arab

Same shit, different day. Even the Arabs knew it.

And yet they were separate delegations, how peculiar.

 

[Kondor3]

...Boy, you guys are grasping at straws to try to delegitimize the Palestinians, won't work.

Not really. No need. The Palestinians have long-since de-legitimized themselves.

And it already has worked.

Half the Arab world has already given up on them, and cooperates with the Israelis to contain those mad dogs.

The other half is thinking about it.

The self-inflicted de-legitimizing started with the Great Palestinian Skeddaddle of 1948.

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Sign at a 1949 arms sale in Cairo:

"50,000 Palestinian infantry rifles. Bargain-bazaar lot-pricing. Mint condition. Like new. Never fired, and only dropped once."