Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

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RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF:

History - The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan said:
Disengagement from the West Bank •​
Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank. Accordingly, electoral districts were redrawn to represent East Bank constituencies only. This disengagement decision marks the turning point that launched the current democratic process, and began a new stage in Jordan’s relationship with West Bank Palestinians.​

Click here for His Majesty's Address to the Nation, July 31, 1988

The decision to sever legal and administrative ties with the West Bank allowed Jordan’s electoral law to be changed, redrawing the map to include only East Bank districts. During the same period, mounting economic difficulties led to a spate of rioting in certain parts of the Kingdom.​

Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.
(COMMENT)

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...

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Most Respectfully,
R
Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank.

Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.​

Indeed.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF:

History - The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan said:
Disengagement from the West Bank •​
Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank. Accordingly, electoral districts were redrawn to represent East Bank constituencies only. This disengagement decision marks the turning point that launched the current democratic process, and began a new stage in Jordan’s relationship with West Bank Palestinians.​

Click here for His Majesty's Address to the Nation, July 31, 1988

The decision to sever legal and administrative ties with the West Bank allowed Jordan’s electoral law to be changed, redrawing the map to include only East Bank districts. During the same period, mounting economic difficulties led to a spate of rioting in certain parts of the Kingdom.​

Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.
(COMMENT)

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
They rejected it...
Rejected what?
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF:

History - The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan said:
Disengagement from the West Bank •​
Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank. Accordingly, electoral districts were redrawn to represent East Bank constituencies only. This disengagement decision marks the turning point that launched the current democratic process, and began a new stage in Jordan’s relationship with West Bank Palestinians.​

Click here for His Majesty's Address to the Nation, July 31, 1988

The decision to sever legal and administrative ties with the West Bank allowed Jordan’s electoral law to be changed, redrawing the map to include only East Bank districts. During the same period, mounting economic difficulties led to a spate of rioting in certain parts of the Kingdom.​

Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.
(COMMENT)

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank.
Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.​

Indeed.

Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.

What's this "Palestinian land" you're referring to?
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF:

History - The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan said:
Disengagement from the West Bank •​
Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank. Accordingly, electoral districts were redrawn to represent East Bank constituencies only. This disengagement decision marks the turning point that launched the current democratic process, and began a new stage in Jordan’s relationship with West Bank Palestinians.​

Click here for His Majesty's Address to the Nation, July 31, 1988

The decision to sever legal and administrative ties with the West Bank allowed Jordan’s electoral law to be changed, redrawing the map to include only East Bank districts. During the same period, mounting economic difficulties led to a spate of rioting in certain parts of the Kingdom.​

Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.
(COMMENT)

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
They rejected it...
Rejected what?

Rejected what?

Their own nation in 1948.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Here we go yet again. We must go to the historical record...

FIRST MONTHLY UNPC PROGRESS REPORT TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL said:
The text of this resolution was communicated by the Secretary-General on 9 January to the Government of the United Kingdom, as the Mandatory Power, to the Arab Higher Committee, and to the Jewish Agency for Palestine. The invitation extended by the resolution was promptly accepted by the Government of the United Kingdom and by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, both of which designated representatives to assist the commission. The representative designated by the Government of the United Kingdom was Sir Alexander Cadogan. The representative designated by the Jewish Agency for Palestine was Mr. Moshe Shertok. As regards the Arab Higher Committee, the following telegraphic response was received by the Secretary-General on 19 January:
  • “ARAB HIGHER COMMITTEE IS DETERMINED PERSIST IN REJECTION PARTITION AND IN REFUSAL RECOGNIZE UNO RESOLUTION THIS RESPECT AND ANYTHING DERIVING THEREFROM. FOR THESE REASONS IT IS UNABLE ACCEPT INVITATION”
No further communication has been addressed to or received from the Arab Higher Committee by the Commission. The Commission will, at the appropriate time, set forth in a separate document its views with regard to the implementations of this refusal by the Arab Higher Committee.

This was a consistent stance held by the Arab Higher Committee dating back to the San Remo Conference.

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...
Rejected what?
(REFERENCE)
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
The High Commissioner wishing the Advisory Council to approximate as closely as possible to the abortive Legislative council, proposed to reconstitute it on the lines suggested for the latter body, that is to say with 10 officials and 8 Moslem, 2 Christians and 2 Jewish Palestinians. But of the 10 Arabs whom he nominated, 7 withdrew their acceptance under political pressure. The High Commissioner did not wish to replace them with men of less standing. It thus proved impossible to constitute a representative Advisory Council.
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
“The British Government desired to establish a self-government in Palestine, but to proceed in this direction by stages…. It had been announced that the nominated Advisory Council was to be the first stage. The second stage would have been a Legislative Council without an Arab majority. If this worked satisfactorily, the third stage, after a lapse of perhaps same years, would have been a constitution on more democratic lines.”
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
Later in 1923, a third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. The mandatory Power now proposed “the establishment of an Arab Agency in Palestine which will occupy a position exactly analogous to that accorded to the Jewish Agency”. The Arab Agency would have the right to be consulted on all matters relating to immigration, on which it was recognised that “the views of the Arab community were entitled to special consideration”. The Arab leaders declined that this offer on the ground that it would not satisfy the aspirations of the Arab people. They added that, never having recognised the status of the Jewish Agency, they had no desire for the establishment of an Arab Agency on the same basis.
◈ ≈ 77% (of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Arab Emirate of Transjordania as a Self-Governing Institution​
◈ The remaining ≈23% of the original territory was further subdivided:​
✦ ≈56% (≈12.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Jewish Self-Governing Institution​
✦ ≈44% (≈10.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to a second Arab Self-Governing Institution​

Yes, you read me correctly... Approximately 87% of the original Territory under the Mandate was allocated to Arab Palestinian interests.

(COMMENT)

It is estimated that more than 50% of Jordanians are of Arab Palestinian ethnicity. That is not counting the nearly two million illegal immigrants that were once Jordanian Citizens. See the Article Khaled Abu Toameh titled Jordan: We Do Not Want Palestinians

It was clear then, a century ago, just as it is clear today. Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and the only way to liberate Palestine. They don't even attempt to camouflage their policy.

Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River. While they still pretend to listen suggested pathways to peace, in the end, they always find a way to subvert them and scuttle and progress to peace.

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Most Respectfully,
R
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Here we go yet again. We must go to the historical record...

FIRST MONTHLY UNPC PROGRESS REPORT TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL said:
The text of this resolution was communicated by the Secretary-General on 9 January to the Government of the United Kingdom, as the Mandatory Power, to the Arab Higher Committee, and to the Jewish Agency for Palestine. The invitation extended by the resolution was promptly accepted by the Government of the United Kingdom and by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, both of which designated representatives to assist the commission. The representative designated by the Government of the United Kingdom was Sir Alexander Cadogan. The representative designated by the Jewish Agency for Palestine was Mr. Moshe Shertok. As regards the Arab Higher Committee, the following telegraphic response was received by the Secretary-General on 19 January:
  • “ARAB HIGHER COMMITTEE IS DETERMINED PERSIST IN REJECTION PARTITION AND IN REFUSAL RECOGNIZE UNO RESOLUTION THIS RESPECT AND ANYTHING DERIVING THEREFROM. FOR THESE REASONS IT IS UNABLE ACCEPT INVITATION”
No further communication has been addressed to or received from the Arab Higher Committee by the Commission. The Commission will, at the appropriate time, set forth in a separate document its views with regard to the implementations of this refusal by the Arab Higher Committee.

This was a consistent stance held by the Arab Higher Committee dating back to the San Remo Conference.

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...
Rejected what?
(REFERENCE)
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
The High Commissioner wishing the Advisory Council to approximate as closely as possible to the abortive Legislative council, proposed to reconstitute it on the lines suggested for the latter body, that is to say with 10 officials and 8 Moslem, 2 Christians and 2 Jewish Palestinians. But of the 10 Arabs whom he nominated, 7 withdrew their acceptance under political pressure. The High Commissioner did not wish to replace them with men of less standing. It thus proved impossible to constitute a representative Advisory Council.
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
“The British Government desired to establish a self-government in Palestine, but to proceed in this direction by stages…. It had been announced that the nominated Advisory Council was to be the first stage. The second stage would have been a Legislative Council without an Arab majority. If this worked satisfactorily, the third stage, after a lapse of perhaps same years, would have been a constitution on more democratic lines.”
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
Later in 1923, a third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. The mandatory Power now proposed “the establishment of an Arab Agency in Palestine which will occupy a position exactly analogous to that accorded to the Jewish Agency”. The Arab Agency would have the right to be consulted on all matters relating to immigration, on which it was recognised that “the views of the Arab community were entitled to special consideration”. The Arab leaders declined that this offer on the ground that it would not satisfy the aspirations of the Arab people. They added that, never having recognised the status of the Jewish Agency, they had no desire for the establishment of an Arab Agency on the same basis.
◈ ≈ 77% (of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Arab Emirate of Transjordania as a Self-Governing Institution​
◈ The remaining ≈23% of the original territory was further subdivided:​
✦ ≈56% (≈12.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Jewish Self-Governing Institution​
✦ ≈44% (≈10.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to a second Arab Self-Governing Institution​

Yes, you read me correctly... Approximately 87% of the original Territory under the Mandate was allocated to Arab Palestinian interests.

(COMMENT)

It is estimated that more than 50% of Jordanians are of Arab Palestinian ethnicity. That is not counting the nearly two million illegal immigrants that were once Jordanian Citizens. See the Article Khaled Abu Toameh titled Jordan: We Do Not Want Palestinians

It was clear then, a century ago, just as it is clear today. Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and the only way to liberate Palestine. They don't even attempt to camouflage their policy.

Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River. While they still pretend to listen suggested pathways to peace, in the end, they always find a way to subvert them and scuttle and progress to peace.

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River.
You are misleading. The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

It is Palestine.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Here we go yet again. We must go to the historical record...

FIRST MONTHLY UNPC PROGRESS REPORT TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL said:
The text of this resolution was communicated by the Secretary-General on 9 January to the Government of the United Kingdom, as the Mandatory Power, to the Arab Higher Committee, and to the Jewish Agency for Palestine. The invitation extended by the resolution was promptly accepted by the Government of the United Kingdom and by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, both of which designated representatives to assist the commission. The representative designated by the Government of the United Kingdom was Sir Alexander Cadogan. The representative designated by the Jewish Agency for Palestine was Mr. Moshe Shertok. As regards the Arab Higher Committee, the following telegraphic response was received by the Secretary-General on 19 January:
  • “ARAB HIGHER COMMITTEE IS DETERMINED PERSIST IN REJECTION PARTITION AND IN REFUSAL RECOGNIZE UNO RESOLUTION THIS RESPECT AND ANYTHING DERIVING THEREFROM. FOR THESE REASONS IT IS UNABLE ACCEPT INVITATION”
No further communication has been addressed to or received from the Arab Higher Committee by the Commission. The Commission will, at the appropriate time, set forth in a separate document its views with regard to the implementations of this refusal by the Arab Higher Committee.

This was a consistent stance held by the Arab Higher Committee dating back to the San Remo Conference.

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...
Rejected what?
(REFERENCE)
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
The High Commissioner wishing the Advisory Council to approximate as closely as possible to the abortive Legislative council, proposed to reconstitute it on the lines suggested for the latter body, that is to say with 10 officials and 8 Moslem, 2 Christians and 2 Jewish Palestinians. But of the 10 Arabs whom he nominated, 7 withdrew their acceptance under political pressure. The High Commissioner did not wish to replace them with men of less standing. It thus proved impossible to constitute a representative Advisory Council.
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
“The British Government desired to establish a self-government in Palestine, but to proceed in this direction by stages…. It had been announced that the nominated Advisory Council was to be the first stage. The second stage would have been a Legislative Council without an Arab majority. If this worked satisfactorily, the third stage, after a lapse of perhaps same years, would have been a constitution on more democratic lines.”
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
Later in 1923, a third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. The mandatory Power now proposed “the establishment of an Arab Agency in Palestine which will occupy a position exactly analogous to that accorded to the Jewish Agency”. The Arab Agency would have the right to be consulted on all matters relating to immigration, on which it was recognised that “the views of the Arab community were entitled to special consideration”. The Arab leaders declined that this offer on the ground that it would not satisfy the aspirations of the Arab people. They added that, never having recognised the status of the Jewish Agency, they had no desire for the establishment of an Arab Agency on the same basis.
◈ ≈ 77% (of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Arab Emirate of Transjordania as a Self-Governing Institution​
◈ The remaining ≈23% of the original territory was further subdivided:​
✦ ≈56% (≈12.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Jewish Self-Governing Institution​
✦ ≈44% (≈10.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to a second Arab Self-Governing Institution​

Yes, you read me correctly... Approximately 87% of the original Territory under the Mandate was allocated to Arab Palestinian interests.

(COMMENT)

It is estimated that more than 50% of Jordanians are of Arab Palestinian ethnicity. That is not counting the nearly two million illegal immigrants that were once Jordanian Citizens. See the Article Khaled Abu Toameh titled Jordan: We Do Not Want Palestinians

It was clear then, a century ago, just as it is clear today. Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and the only way to liberate Palestine. They don't even attempt to camouflage their policy.

Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River. While they still pretend to listen suggested pathways to peace, in the end, they always find a way to subvert them and scuttle and progress to peace.

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River.
You are misleading. The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

It is Palestine.

The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.


Neither does "Palestine".
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF:

History - The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan said:
Disengagement from the West Bank •​
Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank. Accordingly, electoral districts were redrawn to represent East Bank constituencies only. This disengagement decision marks the turning point that launched the current democratic process, and began a new stage in Jordan’s relationship with West Bank Palestinians.​

Click here for His Majesty's Address to the Nation, July 31, 1988

The decision to sever legal and administrative ties with the West Bank allowed Jordan’s electoral law to be changed, redrawing the map to include only East Bank districts. During the same period, mounting economic difficulties led to a spate of rioting in certain parts of the Kingdom.​

Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.
(COMMENT)

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
They rejected it...
Rejected what?

Rejected what?

Their own nation in 1948.
Who told you that?
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Here we go yet again. We must go to the historical record...

FIRST MONTHLY UNPC PROGRESS REPORT TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL said:
The text of this resolution was communicated by the Secretary-General on 9 January to the Government of the United Kingdom, as the Mandatory Power, to the Arab Higher Committee, and to the Jewish Agency for Palestine. The invitation extended by the resolution was promptly accepted by the Government of the United Kingdom and by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, both of which designated representatives to assist the commission. The representative designated by the Government of the United Kingdom was Sir Alexander Cadogan. The representative designated by the Jewish Agency for Palestine was Mr. Moshe Shertok. As regards the Arab Higher Committee, the following telegraphic response was received by the Secretary-General on 19 January:
  • “ARAB HIGHER COMMITTEE IS DETERMINED PERSIST IN REJECTION PARTITION AND IN REFUSAL RECOGNIZE UNO RESOLUTION THIS RESPECT AND ANYTHING DERIVING THEREFROM. FOR THESE REASONS IT IS UNABLE ACCEPT INVITATION”
No further communication has been addressed to or received from the Arab Higher Committee by the Commission. The Commission will, at the appropriate time, set forth in a separate document its views with regard to the implementations of this refusal by the Arab Higher Committee.

This was a consistent stance held by the Arab Higher Committee dating back to the San Remo Conference.

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...
Rejected what?
(REFERENCE)
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
The High Commissioner wishing the Advisory Council to approximate as closely as possible to the abortive Legislative council, proposed to reconstitute it on the lines suggested for the latter body, that is to say with 10 officials and 8 Moslem, 2 Christians and 2 Jewish Palestinians. But of the 10 Arabs whom he nominated, 7 withdrew their acceptance under political pressure. The High Commissioner did not wish to replace them with men of less standing. It thus proved impossible to constitute a representative Advisory Council.
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
“The British Government desired to establish a self-government in Palestine, but to proceed in this direction by stages…. It had been announced that the nominated Advisory Council was to be the first stage. The second stage would have been a Legislative Council without an Arab majority. If this worked satisfactorily, the third stage, after a lapse of perhaps same years, would have been a constitution on more democratic lines.”
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
Later in 1923, a third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. The mandatory Power now proposed “the establishment of an Arab Agency in Palestine which will occupy a position exactly analogous to that accorded to the Jewish Agency”. The Arab Agency would have the right to be consulted on all matters relating to immigration, on which it was recognised that “the views of the Arab community were entitled to special consideration”. The Arab leaders declined that this offer on the ground that it would not satisfy the aspirations of the Arab people. They added that, never having recognised the status of the Jewish Agency, they had no desire for the establishment of an Arab Agency on the same basis.
◈ ≈ 77% (of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Arab Emirate of Transjordania as a Self-Governing Institution​
◈ The remaining ≈23% of the original territory was further subdivided:​
✦ ≈56% (≈12.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Jewish Self-Governing Institution​
✦ ≈44% (≈10.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to a second Arab Self-Governing Institution​

Yes, you read me correctly... Approximately 87% of the original Territory under the Mandate was allocated to Arab Palestinian interests.

(COMMENT)

It is estimated that more than 50% of Jordanians are of Arab Palestinian ethnicity. That is not counting the nearly two million illegal immigrants that were once Jordanian Citizens. See the Article Khaled Abu Toameh titled Jordan: We Do Not Want Palestinians

It was clear then, a century ago, just as it is clear today. Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and the only way to liberate Palestine. They don't even attempt to camouflage their policy.

Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River. While they still pretend to listen suggested pathways to peace, in the end, they always find a way to subvert them and scuttle and progress to peace.

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River.
You are misleading. The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

It is Palestine.

The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

Neither does "Palestine".
Link?

Of course not.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF:

History - The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan said:
Disengagement from the West Bank •​
Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank. Accordingly, electoral districts were redrawn to represent East Bank constituencies only. This disengagement decision marks the turning point that launched the current democratic process, and began a new stage in Jordan’s relationship with West Bank Palestinians.​

Click here for His Majesty's Address to the Nation, July 31, 1988

The decision to sever legal and administrative ties with the West Bank allowed Jordan’s electoral law to be changed, redrawing the map to include only East Bank districts. During the same period, mounting economic difficulties led to a spate of rioting in certain parts of the Kingdom.​

Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.
(COMMENT)

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank.
Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.​

Indeed.
You don't really expect others to accept that fraud, right?
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Here we go yet again. We must go to the historical record...

FIRST MONTHLY UNPC PROGRESS REPORT TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL said:
The text of this resolution was communicated by the Secretary-General on 9 January to the Government of the United Kingdom, as the Mandatory Power, to the Arab Higher Committee, and to the Jewish Agency for Palestine. The invitation extended by the resolution was promptly accepted by the Government of the United Kingdom and by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, both of which designated representatives to assist the commission. The representative designated by the Government of the United Kingdom was Sir Alexander Cadogan. The representative designated by the Jewish Agency for Palestine was Mr. Moshe Shertok. As regards the Arab Higher Committee, the following telegraphic response was received by the Secretary-General on 19 January:
  • “ARAB HIGHER COMMITTEE IS DETERMINED PERSIST IN REJECTION PARTITION AND IN REFUSAL RECOGNIZE UNO RESOLUTION THIS RESPECT AND ANYTHING DERIVING THEREFROM. FOR THESE REASONS IT IS UNABLE ACCEPT INVITATION”
No further communication has been addressed to or received from the Arab Higher Committee by the Commission. The Commission will, at the appropriate time, set forth in a separate document its views with regard to the implementations of this refusal by the Arab Higher Committee.

This was a consistent stance held by the Arab Higher Committee dating back to the San Remo Conference.

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...
Rejected what?
(REFERENCE)
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
The High Commissioner wishing the Advisory Council to approximate as closely as possible to the abortive Legislative council, proposed to reconstitute it on the lines suggested for the latter body, that is to say with 10 officials and 8 Moslem, 2 Christians and 2 Jewish Palestinians. But of the 10 Arabs whom he nominated, 7 withdrew their acceptance under political pressure. The High Commissioner did not wish to replace them with men of less standing. It thus proved impossible to constitute a representative Advisory Council.
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
“The British Government desired to establish a self-government in Palestine, but to proceed in this direction by stages…. It had been announced that the nominated Advisory Council was to be the first stage. The second stage would have been a Legislative Council without an Arab majority. If this worked satisfactorily, the third stage, after a lapse of perhaps same years, would have been a constitution on more democratic lines.”
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
Later in 1923, a third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. The mandatory Power now proposed “the establishment of an Arab Agency in Palestine which will occupy a position exactly analogous to that accorded to the Jewish Agency”. The Arab Agency would have the right to be consulted on all matters relating to immigration, on which it was recognised that “the views of the Arab community were entitled to special consideration”. The Arab leaders declined that this offer on the ground that it would not satisfy the aspirations of the Arab people. They added that, never having recognised the status of the Jewish Agency, they had no desire for the establishment of an Arab Agency on the same basis.
◈ ≈ 77% (of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Arab Emirate of Transjordania as a Self-Governing Institution​
◈ The remaining ≈23% of the original territory was further subdivided:​
✦ ≈56% (≈12.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Jewish Self-Governing Institution​
✦ ≈44% (≈10.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to a second Arab Self-Governing Institution​

Yes, you read me correctly... Approximately 87% of the original Territory under the Mandate was allocated to Arab Palestinian interests.

(COMMENT)

It is estimated that more than 50% of Jordanians are of Arab Palestinian ethnicity. That is not counting the nearly two million illegal immigrants that were once Jordanian Citizens. See the Article Khaled Abu Toameh titled Jordan: We Do Not Want Palestinians

It was clear then, a century ago, just as it is clear today. Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and the only way to liberate Palestine. They don't even attempt to camouflage their policy.

Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River. While they still pretend to listen suggested pathways to peace, in the end, they always find a way to subvert them and scuttle and progress to peace.

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River.
You are misleading. The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

It is Palestine.
It was a geographic area. You're still confused about that.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Here we go yet again. We must go to the historical record...

FIRST MONTHLY UNPC PROGRESS REPORT TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL said:
The text of this resolution was communicated by the Secretary-General on 9 January to the Government of the United Kingdom, as the Mandatory Power, to the Arab Higher Committee, and to the Jewish Agency for Palestine. The invitation extended by the resolution was promptly accepted by the Government of the United Kingdom and by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, both of which designated representatives to assist the commission. The representative designated by the Government of the United Kingdom was Sir Alexander Cadogan. The representative designated by the Jewish Agency for Palestine was Mr. Moshe Shertok. As regards the Arab Higher Committee, the following telegraphic response was received by the Secretary-General on 19 January:
  • “ARAB HIGHER COMMITTEE IS DETERMINED PERSIST IN REJECTION PARTITION AND IN REFUSAL RECOGNIZE UNO RESOLUTION THIS RESPECT AND ANYTHING DERIVING THEREFROM. FOR THESE REASONS IT IS UNABLE ACCEPT INVITATION”
No further communication has been addressed to or received from the Arab Higher Committee by the Commission. The Commission will, at the appropriate time, set forth in a separate document its views with regard to the implementations of this refusal by the Arab Higher Committee.

This was a consistent stance held by the Arab Higher Committee dating back to the San Remo Conference.

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...
Rejected what?
(REFERENCE)
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
The High Commissioner wishing the Advisory Council to approximate as closely as possible to the abortive Legislative council, proposed to reconstitute it on the lines suggested for the latter body, that is to say with 10 officials and 8 Moslem, 2 Christians and 2 Jewish Palestinians. But of the 10 Arabs whom he nominated, 7 withdrew their acceptance under political pressure. The High Commissioner did not wish to replace them with men of less standing. It thus proved impossible to constitute a representative Advisory Council.
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
“The British Government desired to establish a self-government in Palestine, but to proceed in this direction by stages…. It had been announced that the nominated Advisory Council was to be the first stage. The second stage would have been a Legislative Council without an Arab majority. If this worked satisfactorily, the third stage, after a lapse of perhaps same years, would have been a constitution on more democratic lines.”
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
Later in 1923, a third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. The mandatory Power now proposed “the establishment of an Arab Agency in Palestine which will occupy a position exactly analogous to that accorded to the Jewish Agency”. The Arab Agency would have the right to be consulted on all matters relating to immigration, on which it was recognised that “the views of the Arab community were entitled to special consideration”. The Arab leaders declined that this offer on the ground that it would not satisfy the aspirations of the Arab people. They added that, never having recognised the status of the Jewish Agency, they had no desire for the establishment of an Arab Agency on the same basis.
◈ ≈ 77% (of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Arab Emirate of Transjordania as a Self-Governing Institution​
◈ The remaining ≈23% of the original territory was further subdivided:​
✦ ≈56% (≈12.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Jewish Self-Governing Institution​
✦ ≈44% (≈10.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to a second Arab Self-Governing Institution​

Yes, you read me correctly... Approximately 87% of the original Territory under the Mandate was allocated to Arab Palestinian interests.

(COMMENT)

It is estimated that more than 50% of Jordanians are of Arab Palestinian ethnicity. That is not counting the nearly two million illegal immigrants that were once Jordanian Citizens. See the Article Khaled Abu Toameh titled Jordan: We Do Not Want Palestinians

It was clear then, a century ago, just as it is clear today. Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and the only way to liberate Palestine. They don't even attempt to camouflage their policy.

Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River. While they still pretend to listen suggested pathways to peace, in the end, they always find a way to subvert them and scuttle and progress to peace.

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Most Respectfully,
R
Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River.
You are misleading. The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

It is Palestine.

The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

Neither does "Palestine".
Link?

Of course not.
You still haven't provided anything to indicate any Arab-Moslem sovereignty in the geographic area called Palestine.

Link?
 
It seems the Great Satan is moving to withhold 5 million dollars intended for aid as the expectation is the money being diverted to finance Islamic terrorism.




The United States Agency for International Development has moved to aggressively block the distribution of coronavirus relief funds to the entire Gaza strip over concerns the money could fall into the hands of Palestinian terrorist group Hamas.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF:

History - The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan said:
Disengagement from the West Bank •​
Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank. Accordingly, electoral districts were redrawn to represent East Bank constituencies only. This disengagement decision marks the turning point that launched the current democratic process, and began a new stage in Jordan’s relationship with West Bank Palestinians.​

Click here for His Majesty's Address to the Nation, July 31, 1988

The decision to sever legal and administrative ties with the West Bank allowed Jordan’s electoral law to be changed, redrawing the map to include only East Bank districts. During the same period, mounting economic difficulties led to a spate of rioting in certain parts of the Kingdom.​

Jordan cannot "abandon" Palestinian land to Israel.
(COMMENT)

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...

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Most Respectfully,
R
They rejected it...
Rejected what?

Rejected what?

Their own nation in 1948.
Who told you that?

They didn't reject their own nation? That's good to know.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Here we go yet again. We must go to the historical record...

FIRST MONTHLY UNPC PROGRESS REPORT TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL said:
The text of this resolution was communicated by the Secretary-General on 9 January to the Government of the United Kingdom, as the Mandatory Power, to the Arab Higher Committee, and to the Jewish Agency for Palestine. The invitation extended by the resolution was promptly accepted by the Government of the United Kingdom and by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, both of which designated representatives to assist the commission. The representative designated by the Government of the United Kingdom was Sir Alexander Cadogan. The representative designated by the Jewish Agency for Palestine was Mr. Moshe Shertok. As regards the Arab Higher Committee, the following telegraphic response was received by the Secretary-General on 19 January:
  • “ARAB HIGHER COMMITTEE IS DETERMINED PERSIST IN REJECTION PARTITION AND IN REFUSAL RECOGNIZE UNO RESOLUTION THIS RESPECT AND ANYTHING DERIVING THEREFROM. FOR THESE REASONS IT IS UNABLE ACCEPT INVITATION”
No further communication has been addressed to or received from the Arab Higher Committee by the Commission. The Commission will, at the appropriate time, set forth in a separate document its views with regard to the implementations of this refusal by the Arab Higher Committee.

This was a consistent stance held by the Arab Higher Committee dating back to the San Remo Conference.

Don't be ridiculous! Not only can they do it, → they did do it... It was never Arab Palestinian Sovereign Territory... They rejected it...
Rejected what?
(REFERENCE)
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
The High Commissioner wishing the Advisory Council to approximate as closely as possible to the abortive Legislative council, proposed to reconstitute it on the lines suggested for the latter body, that is to say with 10 officials and 8 Moslem, 2 Christians and 2 Jewish Palestinians. But of the 10 Arabs whom he nominated, 7 withdrew their acceptance under political pressure. The High Commissioner did not wish to replace them with men of less standing. It thus proved impossible to constitute a representative Advisory Council.
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
“The British Government desired to establish a self-government in Palestine, but to proceed in this direction by stages…. It had been announced that the nominated Advisory Council was to be the first stage. The second stage would have been a Legislative Council without an Arab majority. If this worked satisfactorily, the third stage, after a lapse of perhaps same years, would have been a constitution on more democratic lines.”
A/AC.14/8 UK History of Administration 2 October 1947 said:
Later in 1923, a third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. The mandatory Power now proposed “the establishment of an Arab Agency in Palestine which will occupy a position exactly analogous to that accorded to the Jewish Agency”. The Arab Agency would have the right to be consulted on all matters relating to immigration, on which it was recognised that “the views of the Arab community were entitled to special consideration”. The Arab leaders declined that this offer on the ground that it would not satisfy the aspirations of the Arab people. They added that, never having recognised the status of the Jewish Agency, they had no desire for the establishment of an Arab Agency on the same basis.
◈ ≈ 77% (of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Arab Emirate of Transjordania as a Self-Governing Institution​
◈ The remaining ≈23% of the original territory was further subdivided:​
✦ ≈56% (≈12.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to the Jewish Self-Governing Institution​
✦ ≈44% (≈10.5% of the original Territory under the Mandate) Allocated to a second Arab Self-Governing Institution​

Yes, you read me correctly... Approximately 87% of the original Territory under the Mandate was allocated to Arab Palestinian interests.

(COMMENT)

It is estimated that more than 50% of Jordanians are of Arab Palestinian ethnicity. That is not counting the nearly two million illegal immigrants that were once Jordanian Citizens. See the Article Khaled Abu Toameh titled Jordan: We Do Not Want Palestinians

It was clear then, a century ago, just as it is clear today. Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and the only way to liberate Palestine. They don't even attempt to camouflage their policy.

Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River. While they still pretend to listen suggested pathways to peace, in the end, they always find a way to subvert them and scuttle and progress to peace.

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River.
You are misleading. The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

It is Palestine.

The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

Neither does "Palestine".
Link?

Of course not.

If they have sovereignty, what currency do they use?
What rate do they pay on their 10 year debt?
How do they control their borders?
Where can I find their tax rates?
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I'm not "misleading" even one little bit. You're just having trouble accepting the historical record.


Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River.
You are misleading. The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

It is Palestine.
(REFERENCES)

Report • Administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan • For the Year 1932 said:
Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south it is bounded by Egyptian and Saudi Arabian territory, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean.
See the Report for more defined detail.
I am citing the 1932 Report because there were some boundary adjustments being made.

One of these villages consists of 500 dunums of land containing the mineral springs of El Hamme and some few huts and tents occupied by cultivators from a neighbouring settlement in Trans-Jordan. This area was taken over from Trans-Jordan on the ratification of the Agreement between His Majesty's Government and His Highness the Amir of Trans-Jordan and in virtue of Article 2 of that Agreement whereby the boundary between the two countries was declared to be the median line of the Yarmuk River in the area in question.​
In the course of this adjustment, it was discovered that a part of the lands of the Syrian frontier village Kafr Harib lay within the territory of Palestine, and this part was consequently included in the tithe lists of the Palestine Government. This is the second of the "villages" in question.​
Palestine Order in Coucil 1922 said:
Title: This Order may be cited as "The Palestine Order in Council, 1922."
The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for​
Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine.​
(COMMENT)

You are one-third correct. None of the Mandatory Powers went about establishing sovereignty over the territories under administration. However: That did not alter the fact that the Mandatory Power, under the auspices of the League of Nations, established a Government through a Civil Administration. There were very distinct boundaries and territories involved.

On the matter of Sovereignty:

◈ The Mandatory was granted full powers of legislation and of administration.​
◈ The Mandatory was responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home.​
◈ The Mandatory was to encourage local autonomy.​
◈ The Mandatory shall defend the integrity of the territory such that no Palestine territory shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under the control of, the Government of any foreign Power.​
◈ The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law.​
◈ The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that the judicial system established in Palestine shall assure to foreigners, as well as to natives, a complete guarantee of their rights.​

(IMPORTANT ASPECT)

Not only did the UK Civil Administration over the Government of Palestine have effective control over the Executive, Legislative and Judicial systems, but it also had all the responsibilities over diplomatic efforts, economic stimulus and monetary controls, as well as national defense matters. Remembering that the Arab Higher Committee categorically rejected and abandoned all advisory council influence (5:2 Advantage) in the establishment of frameworks Arab Self-Governance.

I'm having a hard time distinguishing any significant difference you can raise between the powers vested in the UK Civil Administration over the Government of Palestine and any other sovereign nation.

So I ask! Who (here) is spreading misinformation?

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Most Respectfully,
R
 
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RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I'm not "misleading" even one little bit. You're just having trouble accepting the historical record.


Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River.
You are misleading. The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

It is Palestine.
(REFERENCES)

Report • Administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan • For the Year 1932 said:
Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south it is bounded by Egyptian and Saudi Arabian territory, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean.
See the Report for more defined detail.
I am citing the 1932 Report because there were some boundary adjustments being made.

One of these villages consists of 500 dunums of land containing the mineral springs of El Hamme and some few huts and tents occupied by cultivators from a neighbouring settlement in Trans-Jordan. This area was taken over from Trans-Jordan on the ratification of the Agreement between His Majesty's Government and His Highness the Amir of Trans-Jordan and in virtue of Article 2 of that Agreement whereby the boundary between the two countries was declared to be the median line of the Yarmuk River in the area in question.​
In the course of this adjustment, it was discovered that a part of the lands of the Syrian frontier village Kafr Harib lay within the territory of Palestine, and this part was consequently included in the tithe lists of the Palestine Government. This is the second of the "villages" in question.​
Palestine Order in Coucil 1922 said:
Title: This Order may be cited as "The Palestine Order in Council, 1922."
The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for​
Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine.​
(COMMENT)

You are one-third correct. None of the Mandatory Powers went about establishing sovereignty over the territories under administration. However: That did not alter the fact that the Mandatory Power, under the auspices of the League of Nations, established a Government through a Civil Administration. There were very distinct boundaries and territories involved.

On the matter of Sovereignty:

◈ The Mandatory was granted full powers of legislation and of administration.​
◈ The Mandatory was responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home.​
◈ The Mandatory was to encourage local autonomy.​
◈ The Mandatory shall defend the integrity of the territory such that no Palestine territory shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under the control of, the Government of any foreign Power.​
◈ The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law.​
◈ The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that the judicial system established in Palestine shall assure to foreigners, as well as to natives, a complete guarantee of their rights.​

(IMPORTANT ASPECT)

Not only did the UK Civil Administration over the Government of Palestine have effective control over the Executive, Legislative and Judicial systems, but it also had all the responsibilities over diplomatic efforts, economic stimulus and monetary controls, as well as national defense matters. Remembering that the Arab Higher Committee categorically rejected and abandoned all advisory council influence (5:2 Advantage) in the establishment of frameworks Arab Self-Governance.

I'm having a hard time distinguishing any significant difference you can raise between the powers vested in the UK Civil Administration over the Government of Palestine and any other sovereign nation.

So I ask! Who (here) is spreading misinformation?

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
OK, we have established that:
  1. Palestine is the name of the country.
  2. Palestine has defined boundaries.
  3. The Palestinians are the natives.
  4. The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine.
  5. The Palestinians, in Palestine, have the right to self determination without external interference, the right to independence and sovereignty, and the right to territorial integrity.
  6. The Mandatory must act in the best interest of the natives.
  7. The Mandatory must render administrative assistance and advice to bring Palestine to independence.
  8. The Mandatory did not acquire sovereignty over the territory.
Links on request.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I'm not "misleading" even one little bit. You're just having trouble accepting the historical record.


Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River.
You are misleading. The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

It is Palestine.
(REFERENCES)

Report • Administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan • For the Year 1932 said:
Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south it is bounded by Egyptian and Saudi Arabian territory, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean.
See the Report for more defined detail.
I am citing the 1932 Report because there were some boundary adjustments being made.

One of these villages consists of 500 dunums of land containing the mineral springs of El Hamme and some few huts and tents occupied by cultivators from a neighbouring settlement in Trans-Jordan. This area was taken over from Trans-Jordan on the ratification of the Agreement between His Majesty's Government and His Highness the Amir of Trans-Jordan and in virtue of Article 2 of that Agreement whereby the boundary between the two countries was declared to be the median line of the Yarmuk River in the area in question.​
In the course of this adjustment, it was discovered that a part of the lands of the Syrian frontier village Kafr Harib lay within the territory of Palestine, and this part was consequently included in the tithe lists of the Palestine Government. This is the second of the "villages" in question.​
Palestine Order in Coucil 1922 said:
Title: This Order may be cited as "The Palestine Order in Council, 1922."
The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for​
Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine.​
(COMMENT)

You are one-third correct. None of the Mandatory Powers went about establishing sovereignty over the territories under administration. However: That did not alter the fact that the Mandatory Power, under the auspices of the League of Nations, established a Government through a Civil Administration. There were very distinct boundaries and territories involved.

On the matter of Sovereignty:

◈ The Mandatory was granted full powers of legislation and of administration.​
◈ The Mandatory was responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home.​
◈ The Mandatory was to encourage local autonomy.​
◈ The Mandatory shall defend the integrity of the territory such that no Palestine territory shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under the control of, the Government of any foreign Power.​
◈ The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law.​
◈ The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that the judicial system established in Palestine shall assure to foreigners, as well as to natives, a complete guarantee of their rights.​

(IMPORTANT ASPECT)

Not only did the UK Civil Administration over the Government of Palestine have effective control over the Executive, Legislative and Judicial systems, but it also had all the responsibilities over diplomatic efforts, economic stimulus and monetary controls, as well as national defense matters. Remembering that the Arab Higher Committee categorically rejected and abandoned all advisory council influence (5:2 Advantage) in the establishment of frameworks Arab Self-Governance.

I'm having a hard time distinguishing any significant difference you can raise between the powers vested in the UK Civil Administration over the Government of Palestine and any other sovereign nation.

So I ask! Who (here) is spreading misinformation?

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
OK, we have established that:
  1. Palestine is the name of the country.
  2. Palestine has defined boundaries.
  3. The Palestinians are the natives.
  4. The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine.
  5. The Palestinians, in Palestine, have the right to self determination without external interference, the right to independence and sovereignty, and the right to territorial integrity.
  6. The Mandatory must act in the best interest of the natives.
  7. The Mandatory must render administrative assistance and advice to bring Palestine to independence.
  8. The Mandatory did not acquire sovereignty over the territory.
Links on request.
You have not established anything.

Lets start with 1.

Link?
 
The position of Emperor of the mini-caliphate of Gaza'istan is up for grabs. The Islamic terrorists vying for Emperor'ship are names familiar to the ruling Islamic terrorist franchise. This is the Islamic terrorist version of recycling.




Hamas, the Islamic group that controls the Gaza Strip, is set to hold elections to the leadership of its political wing in the coming months, reports suggest.

The vote that takes place every four years and that's being held by the group's general Shura council is meant to man the Strip's number one post, responsible for Hamas' diplomatic ties with the outside world as well as the acquiring of funding and humanitarian assistance.
 
Islamic terrorism carries consequences.




Terror victims' families to collect NIS 500 m. from Palestinian Authority


The Jerusalem District Court had ruled that the PA was liable back in July 2019, but since then Shurat Hadin had to prove their damages.

By YONAH JEREMY BOB
APRIL 26, 2020 18:47
Palestinians man a burning barricade on the Via Dolorosa in Jerusalem's Old City as they fight violent clashes with Israeli Border Police, December 2000 (photo credit: REUTERS)



The Jerusalem District Court has ordered that around NIS 500 million be collected from the Palestinian Authority in civil damages for a series of terror attacks carried out mostly during the Second Intifada.

Despite the significant diplomatic implications, there was no sign from the Foreign Ministry or the Justice Ministry that anyone would stand in the way of collecting the funds from the PA.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I'm not "misleading" even one little bit. You're just having trouble accepting the historical record.


Yes, the Hostile Arab Palestinians want to achieve control over all the former territory under the Mandate and west of the Jordan River.
You are misleading. The Mandate had no sovereignty, no territory, and no borders.

It is Palestine.
(REFERENCES)

Report • Administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan • For the Year 1932 said:
Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south it is bounded by Egyptian and Saudi Arabian territory, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean.
See the Report for more defined detail.
I am citing the 1932 Report because there were some boundary adjustments being made.

One of these villages consists of 500 dunums of land containing the mineral springs of El Hamme and some few huts and tents occupied by cultivators from a neighbouring settlement in Trans-Jordan. This area was taken over from Trans-Jordan on the ratification of the Agreement between His Majesty's Government and His Highness the Amir of Trans-Jordan and in virtue of Article 2 of that Agreement whereby the boundary between the two countries was declared to be the median line of the Yarmuk River in the area in question.​
In the course of this adjustment, it was discovered that a part of the lands of the Syrian frontier village Kafr Harib lay within the territory of Palestine, and this part was consequently included in the tithe lists of the Palestine Government. This is the second of the "villages" in question.​
Palestine Order in Coucil 1922 said:
Title: This Order may be cited as "The Palestine Order in Council, 1922."
The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for​
Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine.​
(COMMENT)

You are one-third correct. None of the Mandatory Powers went about establishing sovereignty over the territories under administration. However: That did not alter the fact that the Mandatory Power, under the auspices of the League of Nations, established a Government through a Civil Administration. There were very distinct boundaries and territories involved.

On the matter of Sovereignty:

◈ The Mandatory was granted full powers of legislation and of administration.​
◈ The Mandatory was responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home.​
◈ The Mandatory was to encourage local autonomy.​
◈ The Mandatory shall defend the integrity of the territory such that no Palestine territory shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under the control of, the Government of any foreign Power.​
◈ The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law.​
◈ The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that the judicial system established in Palestine shall assure to foreigners, as well as to natives, a complete guarantee of their rights.​

(IMPORTANT ASPECT)

Not only did the UK Civil Administration over the Government of Palestine have effective control over the Executive, Legislative and Judicial systems, but it also had all the responsibilities over diplomatic efforts, economic stimulus and monetary controls, as well as national defense matters. Remembering that the Arab Higher Committee categorically rejected and abandoned all advisory council influence (5:2 Advantage) in the establishment of frameworks Arab Self-Governance.

I'm having a hard time distinguishing any significant difference you can raise between the powers vested in the UK Civil Administration over the Government of Palestine and any other sovereign nation.

So I ask! Who (here) is spreading misinformation?

index.png

Most Respectfully,
R
OK, we have established that:
  1. Palestine is the name of the country.
  2. Palestine has defined boundaries.
  3. The Palestinians are the natives.
  4. The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine.
  5. The Palestinians, in Palestine, have the right to self determination without external interference, the right to independence and sovereignty, and the right to territorial integrity.
  6. The Mandatory must act in the best interest of the natives.
  7. The Mandatory must render administrative assistance and advice to bring Palestine to independence.
  8. The Mandatory did not acquire sovereignty over the territory.
Links on request.
You have not established anything.

Lets start with 1.

Link?
Title: This Order may be cited as "The Palestine Order in Council, 1922."

The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine.

 
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