Who are the real Nazis?

[Richard-H]

We here both sides of the political isle call the other a Nazi.

As a result, the terms has been bastardized.

Much like the term racist, the term Nazi seems to be applied ONLY because someone opposes you politically.

However, to cut through the BS, let's study why each side calls the other a Nazi.

What did the Nazi ideology believe?

1. The white race is superior. Dark colored skin, not so much. Or perhaps you switch the colors around.
2. Genocide is an acceptable alternative to what we perceive as a human problem. It's just a matter of who is not considered your equal as a human being.
3. A massive nanny state is needed. Free medical, retirement, education, etc. Capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy that needs to be destroyed.
4. Society must have strong environmental and animal rights laws.
5. Society must have gun control. Society does not want the wrong kinds of people owning guns.
6. Society must have a strong centralized authoritarian government to implement a nanny state and a large military
7. Massive debt is needed to maintain the nanny state and massive military. It matters little how much debt it takes.

So who does the Nazi ideology mirror more closely? Do they mirror you or those you oppose politically?

Completely wrong! The primary philosophy of the Nazis was EXTREME nationalism and a desire for to avenge WWI. That was their only motivation.

All else was just doing whatever it took to achieve those goals. They had no ideology or economic philosophy.

In the words of Adolph Hilter:

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all."

 

[Richard-H]

Nazis were Fascists - Fascists are defined as "far right wing/ authoritarian".
Other than gun control, Trumptards come closest.

Fascism is nothing more than national socialism.
You partisans and your constant bullshit bickering is getting so goddamn old...
"fascism is left wing"
"fascism is right wing you NAZI fuck!!"
Who gives a shit either way? Its fucking tyranny REGARDLESS

Wrong! Fascism was invented by Mussolini as a reaction to the growing threat of liberalism, socialism and communism in Italy at that time.

It was extremely pro class society and extremely pro capitalism. It was not antisemitic.

Just because Hilter and Mussolini were allies, people jump to the conclusion that the Nazis were fascists. Not in the original meaning of fascism at least.

Nazism could best be defined as a society of extremely mentally ill people. They had lost WWI and had suffered years of extreme economic hardship under the Versallies treaty.

That was their excuse - but what's the Trumpbot's excuse? To many years of extreme affluence? Living a life where their biggest challenge is finding the bottom of a beer can?

 

[Tehon]

Most CEOs and leaders are narcissit sociopaths. Steve Jobs, Jack Welch, Bill Gates, Jamie Dimon...that is how they become successful CEOs. Research it. Doesn't mean they don't want what is best for their company.

Indeed!

Large corporations are like mini collectivist governments. They are the fuel of governments all around the globe and the catalysts for globalization.

Just look at how corporations like Facebook censor conservative talk.

They are trying to help achieve total globalization.

But we overtax corporations in America according to conservative dogma.

Taxation is a drag on the economy, I don't think anyone disputes that.

However, is focusing on only corporations the best approach?

Most jobs are created via small business. Unfortunately, small business does not pay as much to politicians so they get ignored.

As a result, what would help the economy most, stimulating small business, will never get done.

As a rule though, lower taxes for everyone should also help small business in some form or fashion.

Lower taxes on corporations leaves them with more money to dominate the planet.

The corporate model is a government construct, but Left wingers tend not to either know this or ignore it and blindly support government over corporations.

In reality though, the Boston Tea party was a protest against corporate control by a British corporation. Most think it is over a higher tax on tea, but the exact opposite is true.

Taxes actually went down on tea, so the issue was control.

I don't know why you think left wingers know that. The left is against corporate personhood, conservatives support it.

 

[peach174]

Nazis were Fascists - Fascists are defined as "far right wing/ authoritarian".
Other than gun control, Trumptards come closest.

The Nazis were far left.

 

[MarcATL]

• Antifa
• Those who say words can hurt feelings and don't allow persons like Ben Shapiro to speak at universities
• Those who respond to people with a different point of view as "racist"
• Those who oppose capitalism
• Those who favor forcible suppression of opposition

Interesting...

 

[TNHarley]

Nazis were Fascists - Fascists are defined as "far right wing/ authoritarian".
Other than gun control, Trumptards come closest.

Fascism is nothing more than national socialism.
You partisans and your constant bullshit bickering is getting so goddamn old...
"fascism is left wing"
"fascism is right wing you NAZI fuck!!"
Who gives a shit either way? Its fucking tyranny REGARDLESS

Wrong! Fascism was invented by Mussolini as a reaction to the growing threat of liberalism, socialism and communism in Italy at that time.

It was extremely pro class society and extremely pro capitalism. It was not antisemitic.

Just because Hilter and Mussolini were allies, people jump to the conclusion that the Nazis were fascists. Not in the original meaning of fascism at least.

Nazism could best be defined as a society of extremely mentally ill people. They had lost WWI and had suffered years of extreme economic hardship under the Versallies treaty.

That was their excuse - but what's the Trumpbot's excuse? To many years of extreme affluence? Living a life where their biggest challenge is finding the bottom of a beer can?

benito grew up a socialist. They kicked him out for supporting ww1 and he started fascism.
FFS man, benito went around preaching about socialism. Even got kicked out of Switzerland for it.

 

[MarcATL]

Now if I recall, you think that the black race is superior to the white race.

Isn't that right?

I invite you to provide proof of me stating, or suggesting, such a thing.

 

[peach174]

We here both sides of the political isle call the other a Nazi.

As a result, the terms has been bastardized.

Much like the term racist, the term Nazi seems to be applied ONLY because someone opposes you politically.

However, to cut through the BS, let's study why each side calls the other a Nazi.

What did the Nazi ideology believe?

1. The white race is superior. Dark colored skin, not so much. Or perhaps you switch the colors around.
2. Genocide is an acceptable alternative to what we perceive as a human problem. It's just a matter of who is not considered your equal as a human being.
3. A massive nanny state is needed. Free medical, retirement, education, etc. Capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy that needs to be destroyed.
4. Society must have strong environmental and animal rights laws.
5. Society must have gun control. Society does not want the wrong kinds of people owning guns.
6. Society must have a strong centralized authoritarian government to implement a nanny state and a large military
7. Massive debt is needed to maintain the nanny state and massive military. It matters little how much debt it takes.

So who does the Nazi ideology mirror more closely? Do they mirror you or those you oppose politically?

Completely wrong! The primary philosophy of the Nazis was EXTREME nationalism and a desire for to avenge WWI. That was their only motivation.

All else was just doing whatever it took to achieve those goals. They had no ideology or economic philosophy.

In the words of Adolph Hilter:

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all."

We here both sides of the political isle call the other a Nazi.

As a result, the terms has been bastardized.

Much like the term racist, the term Nazi seems to be applied ONLY because someone opposes you politically.

However, to cut through the BS, let's study why each side calls the other a Nazi.

What did the Nazi ideology believe?

1. The white race is superior. Dark colored skin, not so much. Or perhaps you switch the colors around.
2. Genocide is an acceptable alternative to what we perceive as a human problem. It's just a matter of who is not considered your equal as a human being.
3. A massive nanny state is needed. Free medical, retirement, education, etc. Capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy that needs to be destroyed.
4. Society must have strong environmental and animal rights laws.
5. Society must have gun control. Society does not want the wrong kinds of people owning guns.
6. Society must have a strong centralized authoritarian government to implement a nanny state and a large military
7. Massive debt is needed to maintain the nanny state and massive military. It matters little how much debt it takes.

So who does the Nazi ideology mirror more closely? Do they mirror you or those you oppose politically?

Completely wrong! The primary philosophy of the Nazis was EXTREME nationalism and a desire for to avenge WWI. That was their only motivation.

All else was just doing whatever it took to achieve those goals. They had no ideology or economic philosophy.

In the words of Adolph Hilter:

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all."

You need to read Mein Kampf and the future plans Hitler had.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

• Antifa
• Those who say words can hurt feelings and don't allow persons like Ben Shapiro to speak at universities
• Those who respond to people with a different point of view as "racist"
• Those who oppose capitalism
• Those who favor forcible suppression of opposition

Interesting...

Happy to debate if you disagree.

 

[Richard-H]

Nazis were Fascists - Fascists are defined as "far right wing/ authoritarian".
Other than gun control, Trumptards come closest.

Fascism is nothing more than national socialism.
You partisans and your constant bullshit bickering is getting so goddamn old...
"fascism is left wing"
"fascism is right wing you NAZI fuck!!"
Who gives a shit either way? Its fucking tyranny REGARDLESS

Wrong! Fascism was invented by Mussolini as a reaction to the growing threat of liberalism, socialism and communism in Italy at that time.

It was extremely pro class society and extremely pro capitalism. It was not antisemitic.

Just because Hilter and Mussolini were allies, people jump to the conclusion that the Nazis were fascists. Not in the original meaning of fascism at least.

Nazism could best be defined as a society of extremely mentally ill people. They had lost WWI and had suffered years of extreme economic hardship under the Versallies treaty.

That was their excuse - but what's the Trumpbot's excuse? To many years of extreme affluence? Living a life where their biggest challenge is finding the bottom of a beer can?

benito grew up a socialist. They kicked him out for supporting ww1 and he started fascism.
FFS man, benito went around preaching about socialism. Even got kicked out of Switzerland for it.

Yes, when he was young he was a socialist. But he radically changed his ideological views. That's when he created fascism.

 

[Richard-H]

We here both sides of the political isle call the other a Nazi.

As a result, the terms has been bastardized.

Much like the term racist, the term Nazi seems to be applied ONLY because someone opposes you politically.

However, to cut through the BS, let's study why each side calls the other a Nazi.

What did the Nazi ideology believe?

1. The white race is superior. Dark colored skin, not so much. Or perhaps you switch the colors around.
2. Genocide is an acceptable alternative to what we perceive as a human problem. It's just a matter of who is not considered your equal as a human being.
3. A massive nanny state is needed. Free medical, retirement, education, etc. Capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy that needs to be destroyed.
4. Society must have strong environmental and animal rights laws.
5. Society must have gun control. Society does not want the wrong kinds of people owning guns.
6. Society must have a strong centralized authoritarian government to implement a nanny state and a large military
7. Massive debt is needed to maintain the nanny state and massive military. It matters little how much debt it takes.

So who does the Nazi ideology mirror more closely? Do they mirror you or those you oppose politically?

Completely wrong! The primary philosophy of the Nazis was EXTREME nationalism and a desire for to avenge WWI. That was their only motivation.

All else was just doing whatever it took to achieve those goals. They had no ideology or economic philosophy.

In the words of Adolph Hilter:

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all."

We here both sides of the political isle call the other a Nazi.

As a result, the terms has been bastardized.

Much like the term racist, the term Nazi seems to be applied ONLY because someone opposes you politically.

However, to cut through the BS, let's study why each side calls the other a Nazi.

What did the Nazi ideology believe?

1. The white race is superior. Dark colored skin, not so much. Or perhaps you switch the colors around.
2. Genocide is an acceptable alternative to what we perceive as a human problem. It's just a matter of who is not considered your equal as a human being.
3. A massive nanny state is needed. Free medical, retirement, education, etc. Capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy that needs to be destroyed.
4. Society must have strong environmental and animal rights laws.
5. Society must have gun control. Society does not want the wrong kinds of people owning guns.
6. Society must have a strong centralized authoritarian government to implement a nanny state and a large military
7. Massive debt is needed to maintain the nanny state and massive military. It matters little how much debt it takes.

So who does the Nazi ideology mirror more closely? Do they mirror you or those you oppose politically?

Completely wrong! The primary philosophy of the Nazis was EXTREME nationalism and a desire for to avenge WWI. That was their only motivation.

All else was just doing whatever it took to achieve those goals. They had no ideology or economic philosophy.

In the words of Adolph Hilter:

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all."

You need to read Mein Kampf and the future plans Hitler had.

I've read enough of Mein Kampf to understand that Hitler was a very sick man. He was by far more of a spiritualist than anything else.

His belief that everyone should exist for the benefit of the state was just a means of extreme nationalism and his desire to avenge WWI.

 

[MarcATL]

What did you just call me? Are you serious? You want to go down to the gutter its fine with me.

#1) I am Jewish so your words are plain and simple WAR against me. Take it how you want to. I know fascism very well. You don't understand the operational definition even though I just provided a portion of it for you. So now I am a Jewish anti-semite? Are you kidding me?

#2) I am not a Republican. I am an Indendent. I think with logic. Something you lack. Same as courage, you lack that too.

#3) Ben Shapiro was an example I gave. The same group protested Bill Maher too.

#4) I find the Alt Right Republicans abhorrent. But I find you equally abhorrent.

With all due respect.

Whenever I see a poster making this claim, I have to ask them...when was the last time you voted for a Democrat? Or how many times have you?

 

[koshergrl]

Do you always just spout random idiocy? What does that have to do with your "fact is always propaganda" blah blah blah stupidity? Fucking focus. Or shut up.

Define propaganda.

Fuck you. You define propaganda.

I take that as you answering that yes, you do just spout random idiocy.

And that means you go on ignore. I advise everybody else to do the same. You actually suck the intelligence out of the room. You and that nitwit SomeGay are equally worthless.

I see we've graduated to homophobic insults. You're making stellar progress.

People who object to those who couch their objections to ideology based on the number of tenets they share with the nazi party should be listened to.

Have you ever heard the term *never forget*?

Leftists want us to forget, they demand we forget..and that's another way in which they represent nazis. Nazis also seized the narrative and declared it a *crime* to embrace any form of speech, including history, that did not support their ideology.

They called themselves socialists because that allowed them to dupe morons who would hop on board and kill anybody who dared to protest the supreme and murderous authority of the state.

We're not disagreeing here on those topics. We're disagreeing about methods.

Labels are prejudicial, otherwise there would be no need for them. And "nazi" is about the most prejudicial label there is. So you're going to label someone a Nazi off the bat, you're inherently saying "i don't want to talk, i don't want to discuss the pros and cons of ideas, i just want to destroy you." All it does is foster a divide, foster hate and foster isolation into "us v. them."

If i really wanted to change someone's mind on socialism, i'd ask them to tell me why they support it, then get into the specific reasons of why they do, explaining along the way that here's the repercussions of this and that and we can understand them by looking at the lessons of history which may or may not include nazi Germany. That's how you actually influence thought, not just firing labels at each other.

Nonsense. Though I am not interested in *changing the minds* of nazis. Their minds can't be changed. I'm interested in identifying them and thereby marginalizing them.

You can't convert useful idiots. That's their whole point. Facts and reason are wasted on them.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What did you just call me? Are you serious? You want to go down to the gutter its fine with me.

#1) I am Jewish so your words are plain and simple WAR against me. Take it how you want to. I know fascism very well. You don't understand the operational definition even though I just provided a portion of it for you. So now I am a Jewish anti-semite? Are you kidding me?

#2) I am not a Republican. I am an Indendent. I think with logic. Something you lack. Same as courage, you lack that too.

#3) Ben Shapiro was an example I gave. The same group protested Bill Maher too.

#4) I find the Alt Right Republicans abhorrent. But I find you equally abhorrent.

With all due respect.

Whenever I see a poster making this claim, I have to ask them...when was the last time you voted for a Democrat? Or how many times have you?

I voted for WJC, I voted for Al Gore. I voted for McCain because I thought being a war hero he deserved my vote, I had nothing againt BHO. I voted for Romney because I thought with the economy we needed a business man in office. I also live in MA so my vote rarely counts.

Are you calling me a liar? Man up and do so. Don't beat around the bush.

 

[Votto]

Now if I recall, you think that the black race is superior to the white race.

Isn't that right?

I invite you to provide proof of me stating, or suggesting, such a thing.

Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

My bad.

 

[Richard-H]

Now if I recall, you think that the black race is superior to the white race.

Isn't that right?

I invite you to provide proof of me stating, or suggesting, such a thing.

Wouldn't it be weird if human evolution was caused by genetic mixing? The larger the variety of genes available at procreation, the greater the chance of a new and unique individual?

Wouldn't it be weirder still, if the human race was NOT evolving towards a single superior form of human, but instead diverging into many forms of humans each of which had unique individual talents?

 

[TNHarley]

Nazis were Fascists - Fascists are defined as "far right wing/ authoritarian".
Other than gun control, Trumptards come closest.

Fascism is nothing more than national socialism.
You partisans and your constant bullshit bickering is getting so goddamn old...
"fascism is left wing"
"fascism is right wing you NAZI fuck!!"
Who gives a shit either way? Its fucking tyranny REGARDLESS

Wrong! Fascism was invented by Mussolini as a reaction to the growing threat of liberalism, socialism and communism in Italy at that time.

It was extremely pro class society and extremely pro capitalism. It was not antisemitic.

Just because Hilter and Mussolini were allies, people jump to the conclusion that the Nazis were fascists. Not in the original meaning of fascism at least.

Nazism could best be defined as a society of extremely mentally ill people. They had lost WWI and had suffered years of extreme economic hardship under the Versallies treaty.

That was their excuse - but what's the Trumpbot's excuse? To many years of extreme affluence? Living a life where their biggest challenge is finding the bottom of a beer can?

benito grew up a socialist. They kicked him out for supporting ww1 and he started fascism.
FFS man, benito went around preaching about socialism. Even got kicked out of Switzerland for it.

Yes, when he was young he was a socialist. But he radically changed his ideological views. That's when he created fascism.

His views hardly changed. He just looked at war as a means to spread his bullshit more.
Try actually learning about the guy instead of repeating revisionist shit created by partisan retards.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

No, those are not Nazis, and there are not fascists

Everyone's point of view isn't equal -- Nazis and their ideology has been soundly and righteously defeated time and time again -- they no longer get to claim their ideology should have equal space as those of us who support human dignity.

People at Berkeley who didn't want Ben Shapiro to speak are Fascists. Plain and simple. There is zero dispute over this. Unless you can explain to me their reasoning to deny him his first amendment rights and their fellow students at the University who wanted to hear him speak and perhaps debate him? Intollerance for the sake of intollerance is a form of fascism.

Then you don't know what fascism is...

you should also remember exactly who the 1a limits -- the government -- it doesn't guarantee you that other citizens won't take action against your BS covert racism -- and its funny you Trump cucks are all upset over Ben Shapiro -- since you same Trump cucks hurl plenty of Anti-Semitism at Ben for saying mean things about Trump -- so spare me

Ben Shapiro Can't Save The GOP | Dan From The Internet

What did you just call me? Are you serious? You want to go down to the gutter its fine with me.

#1) I am Jewish so your words are plain and simple WAR against me. Take it how you want to. I know fascism very well. You don't understand the operational definition even though I just provided a portion of it for you. So now I am a Jewish anti-semite? Are you kidding me?

#2) I am not a Republican. I am an Indendent. I think with logic. Something you lack. Same as courage, you lack that too.

#3) Ben Shapiro was an example I gave. The same group protested Bill Maher too.

#4) I find the Alt Right Republicans abhorrent. But I find you equally abhorrent.

With all due respect.

The Alt Right Republicans are a figment of the left's imagination. Don't believe the garbage you hear..including the garbage that labels them as *alt right*.

I've met them and seen them. They exist. Fortunately there aren't very many of them. The likes of David Duke are dying. Thankfully. But to me David Duke and Corey Booker are the same guy.

This is why I have little respect for Trump supporters

Please tell me when Corey Booker has advocated for the extermination of people based on race or religion?

But for racists like yourself -- simply being black and liberal is the same as being a klan member -- and Corey Booker isn't even liberal, he is a corporatist -- but still, since he doesn't buck dance and let massa pat him on the head like this guy, he the same as the klan

 

[Votto]

We here both sides of the political isle call the other a Nazi.

As a result, the terms has been bastardized.

Much like the term racist, the term Nazi seems to be applied ONLY because someone opposes you politically.

However, to cut through the BS, let's study why each side calls the other a Nazi.

What did the Nazi ideology believe?

1. The white race is superior. Dark colored skin, not so much. Or perhaps you switch the colors around.
2. Genocide is an acceptable alternative to what we perceive as a human problem. It's just a matter of who is not considered your equal as a human being.
3. A massive nanny state is needed. Free medical, retirement, education, etc. Capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy that needs to be destroyed.
4. Society must have strong environmental and animal rights laws.
5. Society must have gun control. Society does not want the wrong kinds of people owning guns.
6. Society must have a strong centralized authoritarian government to implement a nanny state and a large military
7. Massive debt is needed to maintain the nanny state and massive military. It matters little how much debt it takes.

So who does the Nazi ideology mirror more closely? Do they mirror you or those you oppose politically?

Completely wrong! The primary philosophy of the Nazis was EXTREME nationalism and a desire for to avenge WWI. That was their only motivation.

All else was just doing whatever it took to achieve those goals. They had no ideology or economic philosophy.

In the words of Adolph Hilter:

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all."

Nationalism is a form of collectivism. To centralize the state, nationalism is used to consolidate power within the state.

Ironically, today Nationalism stands in the way of collectivists as they strive to create a One World Order. Now we must tear down borders now that nationalism has collectivized states around the globe. Those that focus on country today are seen as anti-collectivist.

I would even say that the Nazi regime was not really focused on nationalism. No, they wanted the entire world. Nationalism, like Socialism, were merely tools to that end.

In fact, I would even argue that Jewish hatred was rooted in the fact that the Jewish people were a minority and socioeconomically upwardly mobile. They simply arrested them, took their gold, and sent them off to die. The money was then used for the ultimate goal of conquering the entire world.

All in all, to root out evil just assess the greed and quest for power. There was really nothing special about the Nazi ideology other than the fact that at least Hitler recognized the futility of the state running industry. After all, would you hire a lawyer to operate on you medically? Just leave the professionals in place and simply manipulate them is the key. Then using corporate money you will be that much closer to your goals.

Socialism was just used to quell uprisings like they had during WW1, like I mentioned before.

Again, I don't think any dictator who is a socialist is a socialist for the good of the people. It's just for power and as Hitler has shown, people will look the other way when it comes to corruption and genocide if you just grease their wheels and fill their pockets full of money, which is why socialism to me is terrifying.

 

[MarcATL]

I voted for WJC, I voted for Al Gore. I voted for McCain because I thought being a war hero he deserved my vote, I had nothing againt BHO. I voted for Romney because I thought with the economy we needed a business man in office. I also live in MA so my vote rarely counts.

Are you calling me a liar? Man up and do so. Don't beat around the bush.

Take it easy bruh.

So, in your mind, the economy was tanking during the previous Administration?