Who Decides Restaurant Workers' Pitiful Wages? You Do

[dblack]

The core delusion at the heart of minimum wage laws is that some jobs aren't paid what they're worth. That point of view entirely misunderstands what it means to say what something is "worth" in economic terms. Products and labor are "worth" exactly as much as people are willing to pay for them.

The reason fast-food workers have pitiful wages is because you place very little value on the work they do. The food they cook isn't very good and if it cost much more, you wouldn't buy it. We can pass stupid laws that attempt to deny that fact, but they will fail. Unless you change your minds.

 

[emilynghiem]

I recently read a disturbing comment online
complaining that the same people arguing for health care to be provided free
want fast food workers to make 15.00 an hour???

 

[Luddly Neddite]

When Herman Cain was prez of the restaurant association, he got a policy passed that insured they would stay at poverty level in perpetuity.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I recently read a disturbing comment online
complaining that the same people arguing for health care to be provided free
want fast food workers to make 15.00 an hour???

Its obvious that most people really have no clear idea of just how much of our money is thrown away to pay for a grotesquely bloated military that will never again be used as it has been in the past.

Or, as Gandhi said, 'there's enough for everyone's need, but not for everyone's greed'.

As long as the GOP is set on a path to more wars, nothing will change.

 

[dblack]

I recently read a disturbing comment online
complaining that the same people arguing for health care to be provided free
want fast food workers to make 15.00 an hour???

Its obvious that most people really have no clear idea of just how much of our money is thrown away to pay for a grotesquely bloated military that will never again be used as it has been in the past.

Or, as Gandhi said, 'there's enough for everyone's need, but not for everyone's greed'.

As long as the GOP is set on a path to more wars, nothing will change.

The key question is, "who should decide who gets your money?" - you, or government? Which, would you say, is more likely to go to greed?

 

[SAYIT]

I recently read a disturbing comment online
complaining that the same people arguing for health care to be provided free
want fast food workers to make 15.00 an hour???

Its obvious that most people really have no clear idea of just how much of our money is thrown away to pay for a grotesquely bloated military that will never again be used as it has been in the past.

Or, as Gandhi said, 'there's enough for everyone's need, but not for everyone's greed'.

As long as the GOP is set on a path to more wars, nothing will change.

The key question is, "who should decide who gets your money?" - you, or government? Which, would you say, is more likely to go to greed?

According to The National Philanthropic Trust, in addition to the support we provide through our taxes, Americans donated over $358bil in 2014 to causes we chose. That figure does not include the shadow market where billions more that show up on no tax form are donated. God Bless Americans!

 

[emilynghiem]

I recently read a disturbing comment online
complaining that the same people arguing for health care to be provided free
want fast food workers to make 15.00 an hour???

Its obvious that most people really have no clear idea of just how much of our money is thrown away to pay for a grotesquely bloated military that will never again be used as it has been in the past.

Or, as Gandhi said, 'there's enough for everyone's need, but not for everyone's greed'.

As long as the GOP is set on a path to more wars, nothing will change.

Yep Luddly Neddite that's the flip side
GOP love to harp on "limited govt" but where is it when it comes to
corporations and the military industrial complex acting as big govt?

[to be fair: The liberal equivalent of the double standard is
complaining and suing to "separate church and state"
but then mandating nationalized beliefs in
right to marriage, right to health care, etc. under penalty of law.
And then acting like no rights or freedoms are being taken away
because that's the right answer anyway -- same justification used
to justify right to life as being the law anyway, since "abortion isn't a choice"]

 

[emilynghiem]

The core delusion at the heart of minimum wage laws is that some jobs aren't paid what they're worth. That point of view entirely misunderstands what it means to say what something is "worth" in economic terms. Products and labor are "worth" exactly as much as people are willing to pay for them.

The reason fast-food workers have pitiful wages is because you place very little value on the work they do. The food they cook isn't very good and if it cost much more, you wouldn't buy it. We can pass stupid laws that attempt to deny that fact, but they will fail. Unless you change your minds.

Yes, dblack so maybe if all workers, even fast foodies, had to be paid 10-15 an hour,
and the PRICES of the food had to reflect the TRUE cost of production,
maybe that would reduce the incentive to buy fast food and make home cooking look more attractive.

Either that, or eating raw vegetables or grass right out of your yard to save money.
Maybe it's all a ploy to turn America Vegan?

by paying everyone 10/hour, even mothers working out of homes to take care of kids and households,
maybe we'd value people and the work we do more "equally"???

 

[Wyatt earp]

The core delusion at the heart of minimum wage laws is that some jobs aren't paid what they're worth. That point of view entirely misunderstands what it means to say what something is "worth" in economic terms. Products and labor are "worth" exactly as much as people are willing to pay for them.

The reason fast-food workers have pitiful wages is because you place very little value on the work they do. The food they cook isn't very good and if it cost much more, you wouldn't buy it. We can pass stupid laws that attempt to deny that fact, but they will fail. Unless you change your minds.

Word salad

 

[emilynghiem]

The core delusion at the heart of minimum wage laws is that some jobs aren't paid what they're worth. That point of view entirely misunderstands what it means to say what something is "worth" in economic terms. Products and labor are "worth" exactly as much as people are willing to pay for them.

The reason fast-food workers have pitiful wages is because you place very little value on the work they do. The food they cook isn't very good and if it cost much more, you wouldn't buy it. We can pass stupid laws that attempt to deny that fact, but they will fail. Unless you change your minds.

Word salad

Dear bear513
Translation:
the budget for labor is tied in with the value of the products sold

[part left unspoken:
fast food industry accounts for higher costs of convenience,
which consumers are willing to pay,
but does NOT account for the damage to health and the environment
from waste and destruction that isn't included in the final tab]

 

[Spinster]

I recently read a disturbing comment online
complaining that the same people arguing for health care to be provided free
want fast food workers to make 15.00 an hour???

Seattle just passed a law making minimum wage $15.00 an hour. Personally, I don't think waiters and waitresses are underpaid when you consider they get tips no one can prove. College kids do that job because the tips end up making it a pretty good income.

 

[dblack]

The core delusion at the heart of minimum wage laws is that some jobs aren't paid what they're worth. That point of view entirely misunderstands what it means to say what something is "worth" in economic terms. Products and labor are "worth" exactly as much as people are willing to pay for them.

The reason fast-food workers have pitiful wages is because you place very little value on the work they do. The food they cook isn't very good and if it cost much more, you wouldn't buy it. We can pass stupid laws that attempt to deny that fact, but they will fail. Unless you change your minds.

Yes, dblack so maybe if all workers, even fast foodies, had to be paid 10-15 an hour,
and the PRICES of the food had to reflect the TRUE cost of production,
maybe that would reduce the incentive to buy fast food and make home cooking look more attractive.

If everyone had to be paid 10-15 an hour ... but these laws don't require that everyone be paid the minimum.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

would reduce the incentive to buy fast food and make home cooking look more attractive.

certainly it would!! Most of us would eat out every night were it not for the cost!

 

[hortysir]

If someone isn't happy with minimum wage I highly suggest learning a marketable skill that will earn more money.
Minimum wage jobs are just a stepping stone

 

[Uncensored2008]

When Herman Cain was prez of the restaurant association, he got a policy passed that insured they would stay at poverty level in perpetuity.

Puddly Pillowbite, you are the queen of utterly stupid lies.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Minimum wage jobs are just a stepping stone

This is true. Half are under 25 years of age and 2/3 are part time workers.

 

[Uncensored2008]

certainly it would!! Most of us would eat out every night were it not for the cost!

For my wife and I, it costs more to cook at home than to eat fast food.

I can grab 5 Chili dogs at Wienerschnitzel for $5 - or spend $20 to buy tomatoes, olive oil, whole grain pasta, basil, ground turkey, garlic, onion, et al. to make food at home.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

certainly it would!! Most of us would eat out every night were it not for the cost!

For my wife and I, it costs more to cook at home than to eat fast food.

I can grab 5 Chili dogs at Wienerschnitzel for $5 - or spend $20 to buy tomatoes, olive oil, whole grain pasta, basil, ground turkey, garlic, onion, et al. to make food at home.

A infinitely better example is 1/4 pounder for $5.00 at McDonalds versus $2.00 at home. So even without including gas, fries, coke etc its less than half to eat at home even when comparing to the cheapest restaurant chain.

Thus raising the cost of wages at McDonalds, and more expensive restaurants, will drive more and more folks to other alternatives.