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Do you think so? What if Russia didn't even try to take Kiev or Kharkiv?Russia has been repelled from both Kyiv and Kharkiv so far. What objectives are Russia supposed to be winning?
Are you sure? What if Russia then nuked America with everything they've got? Do you think Russia would do thatIf Russia nukes a NATO country, America will nuke Russia.
Oh, I see!Ukraine is not a NATO country.
Oh, you're so full of information!Ukraine is, however, a non-nuclear weapon state.
Are you sure it's not all about Russia being threatened? Did you think the entire world is mad at Russia. Somebody told me that the majority of the world's people are happy with Russia. Should we check that out to find out for sure?If Russia nukes a non-nuclear weapon state (especially when Russia's existence is not even threatened), the entire world will do something bad to Russia.
Even China?Probably Russia would be subjected to universal crushing sanctions or something similar, with even China cutting ties with them,
Is the Ukraine not getting support?while at the same time Ukraine would get tons of support from all over the world.
Are you a teenager?The International Criminal Court would also issue an arrest warrant for Putin, and would imprison him for life if they ever got their hands on him.
I don't imagine anybody will be doing much travelling if the US can't gain control of Russia's oil wealth! And especially if we have America starting a nulcear war when Putin uses a tactical nuclear weapon on the Ukraine or some Nato country. You did tell me that the Ukraine isn't a nuclear country didn't you.His days of traveling outside Russia would be done.
I think this war might be different from all of America's previous wars. Russia isn't playing fair and they're saying in slightly different words, we're not going to mess around with limited war if America tries to win this one. Do you think they mean it?No. But we are willing to subject Russia to mutual extermination if it comes to that.
Yes.Do you think so?
They did try.What if Russia didn't even try to take Kiev or Kharkiv?
Yes.Are you sure?
Then America would commit genocide against the Russian people with our nuclear weapons.What if Russia then nuked America with everything they've got?
Don't care.Do you think Russia would do that
Yes.Are you sure it's not all about Russia being threatened?
Yes.Did you think the entire world is mad at Russia.
You shouldn't believe what the KGB tells you.Somebody told me that the majority of the world's people are happy with Russia.
No.Should we check that out to find out for sure?
Yes.Even China?
They would get much more.Is the Ukraine not getting support?
I see that reality bothers you.Are you a teenager?
No one cares about Russian oil, other than the fact that the sale of that oil is being used to fund atrocities.I don't imagine anybody will be doing much travelling if the US can't gain control of Russia's oil wealth!
If Russia uses a nuclear weapon, it will be Russia who started the nuclear war.And especially if we have America starting a nulcear war when Putin uses a tactical nuclear weapon on the Ukraine or some Nato country.
Yes.You did tell me that the Ukraine isn't a nuclear country didn't you.
I don't care if they mean it. We have more than enough nukes to commit genocide against Russia if it comes to that.I think this war might be different from all of America's previous wars. Russia isn't playing fair and they're saying in slightly different words, we're not going to mess around with limited war if America tries to win this one. Do you think they mean it?
What if we had a discussion on a nulcear war, but discarded the MAD factor?I don't care if they mean it. We have more than enough nukes to commit genocide against Russia if it comes to that.
If Russia uses nuclear weapons against a NATO country, MAD will be a factor.What if we had a discussion on a nulcear war, but discarded the MAD factor?
If Russia uses nuclear weapons against a non-NATO non-nuclear-weapon state, there are two possible outcomes.Would Russia win? What could be determining factors?
Population density?
Superior ultra-sonic weapons?
Size of countries?
Considerations for neighbouring allied countries?
The god's will?
Anything else you kids can think of?
That is possible only if it is a non-NATO state that is nuked.If that's the unthinkable then I would suggest another outcome that includes nuclear weapons:
Russia is going to use a tactical nuclear weapon and the US won't respond in kind against Russia.
The issue will be taken to the UN to decide on what will arise out of this sort of escalation.
If Russia uses nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear-weapons state, I think the world will hammer Russia with the most severe sanctions in human history.Then that's where the conversation would get quite interesting.
What do you think, assuming you do actually care very much?
What a pleasure it would be to shut your stupid fucking mouth with something explosive! A hand grenade, for instance.If Russia uses nuclear weapons against a NATO country, MAD will be a factor.
If Russia uses nuclear weapons against a non-NATO non-nuclear-weapon state, there are two possible outcomes.
a) The NPT is discarded and all nations develop nuclear weapons. Eventually there is a bad nuclear war that severely damages the entire human race.
b) The entire world (including China) hammers Russia with sanctions so severe that Russia is destroyed.
I think that when faced with "A" as the only alternative, everyone will choose "B" instead.
That is possible only if it is a non-NATO state that is nuked.
If Russia nukes NATO, then it's nuclear war.
If Russia uses nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear-weapons state, I think the world will hammer Russia with the most severe sanctions in human history.
The International Criminal Court will also issue an arrest warrant for Putin. If they get their hands on him, he will spend the rest of his life in prison. The arrest warrant against Putin may happen anyway due to the crimes against humanity that have already taken place in Ukraine, but it will happen much faster if Russia uses nuclear weapons.
America's military will protect me. They will protect my right to speak the truth as well.What a pleasure it would be to shut your stupid fucking mouth with something explosive! A hand grenade, for instance.
They will be told to protect America from Russian aggression.They'll do what they are told, and with the number of high ranking leftists in the military, don't count on them to follow their oath.
And russian aggression will be conservatives...They will be told to protect America from Russian aggression.
But don't worry. I am prepared to defend myself if any belligerent Russians should make it all the way to my doorstep with mayhem on their mind.
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Scott Ritter on NATO @ 45m
