Who wants to see Russia beat up over Ukraine?

This war is over!

Russia won.

There is nothing more to see.
 
No, I am not full of BS
Trump never voted for a war, like Biden did. That is a fact.
Dumbass, how could he ever vote for or against ANYTHING if he was never in Congress?

He supported Iraq invasion and there is no reason to think he wouldn’t vote for it.
 
Dumbass, how could he ever vote for or against ANYTHING if he was never in Congress?
exactly. So I am 100% accurate in saying "Trump never voted for a war, like Biden did. That is a fact."
Why are you challenging that ?
 
This war is over!

Russia won.

There is nothing more to see.
Ukraine is holding their defensive lines, and drone strikes in russian airfields and refineries. Russia is losing aircraft to these drones, and losing enough refinery capacity that now russia has to import refined oil products. And then France is considering sending troops to ukraine.
 
Ukraine is holding their defensive lines, and drone strikes in russian airfields and refineries. Russia is losing aircraft to these drones, and losing enough refinery capacity that now russia has to import refined oil products. And then France is considering sending troops to ukraine.


Dream on :dunno:
 
exactly. So I am 100% accurate in saying "Trump never voted for a war, like Biden did. That is a fact."
Why are you challenging that ?
What part of Trump COULD NOT vote do you not get?

Him not voting was not because of his convictions, it was because he COULD NOT VOTE, even though he supported Iraq invasion.

You citing Trump not voting as evidence of his better judgement is...wait for it...BULLSHIT. He did not have better juedgement, he supported Iraq war and then lied about it in typical Trump fashion.
 
Trump was not President at the time, Trump didn't vote for a war.
Go ahead and acknowledge that. Now, thanks!
Irrelevant. He was on record going along with that stupidest war ever. He's a gd idiot and lies nonstop about election fraud. Loves Putin, screws with allies. Mussolini wannabe. And scumbag con man. Otoh, we need a Dem landslide after 40 years of giveaway to the rich GOP bs and garbage propaganda....
 
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So you believe electioñ fraud without evidence? Treasonous and anti-American. Trump and your pundits are lying scum. The GOP base are totally misinformed by admitted propagandists. Ditto all the other crap you believe.
You did not remotely discuss what he was talking to you about. Waste of your time.
 
Trump never voted for it? Super dumb. He was for it. Then we all found out it was based on lies from the GOP. France was right as usual...
I'm not following your discussion. Trump was for what? What lies?
 
Anything and everything the left are being fed by their so called news sources, and they preach anywhere and everywhere, I automatically take the other side.

Best advice I can give.
Left? Right? Never mind that. Just listen to Biden speak for two minutes. Anyone who votes for that to represent his/her population must be a Sadist.
 
Trump
He was for the Iraq war.
Says you.
Now he lies about that.
Says you. And why is that so important to you? Trump wasn't president during that time. Do you even know who was? Yep, it was the guy who lied about WMDs, falsified evidence, sent CIA agents to plant fake proof, tortured untold numbers of innocent men to Abu Graib and Guantanamo (in direct opposition to the Geneva Convention rules), and thus murdered one million innocent men, women and children. And did I mention that he later claimed "No one ever suggested Irak had WMDs"?
And the election steal and everything else. The election steal lie is treasonous.
I'm glad to see that you are enjoying yourself:

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Trump

Says you.

Says you. And why is that so important to you? Trump wasn't president during that time. Do you even know who was? Yep, it was the guy who lied about WMDs, falsified evidence, sent CIA agents to plant fake proof, tortured untold numbers of innocent men to Abu Graib and Guantanamo (in direct opposition to the Geneva Convention rules), and thus murdered one million innocent men, women and children. And did I mention that he later claimed "No one ever suggested Irak had WMDs"?

I'm glad to see that you are enjoying yourself:

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Yup, the only president almost as putrid as trump. Republicans are always a catastrophe. Ike was indie really.
 
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What part of Trump COULD NOT vote do you not get?

Him not voting was not because of his convictions, it was because he COULD NOT VOTE, even though he supported Iraq invasion.

You citing Trump not voting as evidence of his better judgement is...wait for it...BULLSHIT. He did not have better juedgement, he supported Iraq war and then lied about it in typical Trump fashion.
Oh I get it all right. Biden voted for war and Trump did not.
 
ukraine is the correct line to draw. they seem to understand that, and 1/2 of us do.
Ukraine is actually perfect...

Putin bit off more than he could chew... His army could be decimated here while West would be just recycling old weapons..

My suggestion would be to have a Mercenary Air force put together and paid for by Ukraine(Donations from US & EU)..


Then give Ukraine the Artillery they need... If they need help we gather up up a Mercenary Army training units...

So how do we get those units fast...
Ukraine (with the help of US and EU) come together what they need. Equipment, a list of various people and the skills they need...

The military then find within there armies the men who have the skill they need. They approach them and ask them would they like to volunteer for a mercenary army and they get extra pay and the experience would be good for there career. The would be given a sabbatical from there home country army and they join the Ukraine Mercenary Legion.

Only one major caveat, these guys are going to be paid multiple amounts of the Ukrainian Army so use them in specialist roles like Trainer, Warthog Flight Mechanic, Warthog Pilot... Basically stuff a Ukrainian will say, we have no one to do that and we are grateful they are here.

Do that, Putin can't object to mercenaries (he is using them himself), this is not other countries fighting... But now US can put any weapon on the field and have trained people in place within a week... Need Warthogs, have them in a week and withdraw them in the same time...
 

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