Who Would Have Thought, Tea Party Folks Don't Back Republicans

[Intense]

South Carolina, Missouri, Oklahoma, Arizona, Texas, Mississippi, Nebraska, Kentucky, Idaho, and South Dakota

Well, at least He won His Home State. Only a real ass hole would lose that! LOL... Al Gore. LOL.
Those states are really rolling in Electoral Votes.... huh. Out side of Texas. Just proves the point, He should not have been the nominee in the first place. The corruption in the Primary system allowed it.

Ron Paul finished third in Texas in the GOP primary -

Ron Paul Who ???????

 

[Intense]

Keith Olbermann had this to say last night on Countdown:

When anti-government protesters targeted President Obama and other Democratic leaders on April 15, the party took a hit. When town halls raged and the Tea Bag crowd hit Washington, the party staggered further. Now, the Tea Bag guys are on the move again. But in our third story tonight, signs that the party getting hurt by the anti-government Tea Bag people is the Republican party.

This week's "Washington Post"/ABC poll found 51 percent of Americans say that in next year's Congressional vote, faced with the generic Democrat versus the generic Republican, they'll vote for the Democrat; 39 percent will vote for the Republican. Only 19 percent have at least a good amount of confidence in Congressional Republicans to make the right decisions, far lower than Democrats or the president, for that matter.

And the number of Americans calling themselves Republicans has fallen to 20 percent, the lowest since 1983. A closer look shows that number has fallen from 25 percent just since mid-August. That's not a five percent loss for Republicans. Dropping from 25 percent to 20 percent is a loss of a fifth. Meaning since the height of town hall, Palin, Beck, death panel palooza, one out of five Republicans has stopped being Republican.

Republicans stopped at 25 percent back in March too, nine days after Tea Bag nations. Republicans were down to 21 percent. Naturally, Republicans are trying again. That's right, Tea Party Express II launches this weekend, coming to 38 cities, according to its press release, 37 on their website. Oh, well.

Previous Tea Parties so successful, they now have to hold them in such venues as Wichita's Lawrence Piedmont Stadium (ph) parking lot, Fallon (ph) Nevada's old Walmart's parking lot, a high school auditorium in Tri-Cities in Washington, Bozeman, Montana's Heritage Christian School gymnasium, and in Amarillo, Texas, John Stiff Memorial Park, picnic area number four. Seriously, picnic area number four. Don't interrupt the outing in area number three, please.

A dozen cities have no venue listed at all. According to the tour's Facebook page, "192 people are planning to attend these rallies."

In its own press release, a spokesman says about its new video, the web video promoting the tour, quote, "the tone of the ad is upbeat and positive." The name of the upbeat, positive ad is, "Countdown to Judgment Day."



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I can't comment on Keith What's his name, but, I will say that The Republican Party is on notice, You run Shit Heads, We will not support them. You blow the Primaries by boxing out legitimate qualified candidates, I for one refuse to support watered down Failures as the lesser Evil.

 

[Rinata]

Keith Olbermann had this to say last night on Countdown:

When anti-government protesters targeted President Obama and other Democratic leaders on April 15, the party took a hit. When town halls raged and the Tea Bag crowd hit Washington, the party staggered further. Now, the Tea Bag guys are on the move again. But in our third story tonight, signs that the party getting hurt by the anti-government Tea Bag people is the Republican party.

This week's "Washington Post"/ABC poll found 51 percent of Americans say that in next year's Congressional vote, faced with the generic Democrat versus the generic Republican, they'll vote for the Democrat; 39 percent will vote for the Republican. Only 19 percent have at least a good amount of confidence in Congressional Republicans to make the right decisions, far lower than Democrats or the president, for that matter.

And the number of Americans calling themselves Republicans has fallen to 20 percent, the lowest since 1983. A closer look shows that number has fallen from 25 percent just since mid-August. That's not a five percent loss for Republicans. Dropping from 25 percent to 20 percent is a loss of a fifth. Meaning since the height of town hall, Palin, Beck, death panel palooza, one out of five Republicans has stopped being Republican.

Republicans stopped at 25 percent back in March too, nine days after Tea Bag nations. Republicans were down to 21 percent. Naturally, Republicans are trying again. That's right, Tea Party Express II launches this weekend, coming to 38 cities, according to its press release, 37 on their website. Oh, well.

Previous Tea Parties so successful, they now have to hold them in such venues as Wichita's Lawrence Piedmont Stadium (ph) parking lot, Fallon (ph) Nevada's old Walmart's parking lot, a high school auditorium in Tri-Cities in Washington, Bozeman, Montana's Heritage Christian School gymnasium, and in Amarillo, Texas, John Stiff Memorial Park, picnic area number four. Seriously, picnic area number four. Don't interrupt the outing in area number three, please.

A dozen cities have no venue listed at all. According to the tour's Facebook page, "192 people are planning to attend these rallies."

In its own press release, a spokesman says about its new video, the web video promoting the tour, quote, "the tone of the ad is upbeat and positive." The name of the upbeat, positive ad is, "Countdown to Judgment Day."



Read the transcripts from all msnbc TV primetime shows- msnbc.com

I can't comment on Keith What's his name, but, I will say that The Republican Party is on notice, You run Shit Heads, We will not support them. You blow the Primaries by boxing out legitimate qualified candidates, I for one refuse to support watered down Failures as the lesser Evil.

I'm glad to hear that!!! Why don't you consider becoming a Democrat then????

 

[rightwinger]

I can't comment on Keith What's his name, but, I will say that The Republican Party is on notice, You run Shit Heads, We will not support them. You blow the Primaries by boxing out legitimate qualified candidates, I for one refuse to support watered down Failures as the lesser Evil.

If the GOP can develop a platform that appeals to moderates they have a chance in 2010 to pick up House seats. Unfortunately, they banish anyone who strays from extreme right doctrine. The tea baggers do not make the GOP look more mainstream.

 

[Annie]

I can't comment on Keith What's his name, but, I will say that The Republican Party is on notice, You run Shit Heads, We will not support them. You blow the Primaries by boxing out legitimate qualified candidates, I for one refuse to support watered down Failures as the lesser Evil.

If the GOP can develop a platform that appeals to moderates they have a chance in 2010 to pick up House seats. Unfortunately, they banish anyone who strays from extreme right doctrine. The tea baggers do not make the GOP look more mainstream.

Yeah they do, you just really aren't following. You're focused on those signs that the media you follow tend to emphasize.

 

[noose4]

great news, the nuts leave the republican party(basically splitting it in half) and with the republican base divided the better the chance for a win by the good guys(democrats)

 

[rightwinger]

I can't comment on Keith What's his name, but, I will say that The Republican Party is on notice, You run Shit Heads, We will not support them. You blow the Primaries by boxing out legitimate qualified candidates, I for one refuse to support watered down Failures as the lesser Evil.

If the GOP can develop a platform that appeals to moderates they have a chance in 2010 to pick up House seats. Unfortunately, they banish anyone who strays from extreme right doctrine. The tea baggers do not make the GOP look more mainstream.

Yeah they do, you just really aren't following. You're focused on those signs that the media you follow tend to emphasize.

Care to elaborate?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here's what it looks like, in a real campaign:

Conservative Base Stands Up to GOP in NY Race « The Washington Independent

 

[Annie]

Here's what it looks like, in a real campaign:

Conservative Base Stands Up to GOP in NY Race « The Washington Independent

If only there were many so clear cut elections. I'd not have a problem going third party here.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here's what it looks like, in a real campaign:

Conservative Base Stands Up to GOP in NY Race « The Washington Independent

If only there were many so clear cut elections. I'd not have a problem going third party here.

Conservative Hoffman has finally done enough damage to the Republican candidate to put the Democrat Owens (a nobody) in the lead.

But it's very very close.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I can't comment on Keith What's his name, but, I will say that The Republican Party is on notice, You run Shit Heads, We will not support them. You blow the Primaries by boxing out legitimate qualified candidates, I for one refuse to support watered down Failures as the lesser Evil.

If the GOP can develop a platform that appeals to moderates they have a chance in 2010 to pick up House seats. Unfortunately, they banish anyone who strays from extreme right doctrine. The tea baggers do not make the GOP look more mainstream.

Yeah they do, you just really aren't following. You're focused on those signs that the media you follow tend to emphasize.

Annie . . . Annie . . . yes, you. Look at me. Look me in the eys. That's right, in the eyes. Your statement reinforces your delusionality. The Teabaggers are not mainstream, they are not considered mainstream by the mainstream. Annie, you and your beliefs are not mainstream. Your beliefs are far, far to the right, and they do not represent the America that rejected you and your beliefs last year. Yes, you are delusional.

 

[maineman]

If the GOP can develop a platform that appeals to moderates they have a chance in 2010 to pick up House seats. Unfortunately, they banish anyone who strays from extreme right doctrine. The tea baggers do not make the GOP look more mainstream.

Yeah they do, you just really aren't following. You're focused on those signs that the media you follow tend to emphasize.

Annie . . . Annie . . . yes, you. Look at me. Look me in the eys. That's right, in the eyes. Your statement reinforces your delusionality. The Teabaggers are not mainstream, they are not considered mainstream by the mainstream. Annie, you and your beliefs are not mainstream. Your beliefs are far, far to the right, and they do not represent the America that rejected you and your beliefs last year. Yes, you are delusional.

bingo!

truer words were never spoken!

 

[DiveCon]

If you look at the break down of political affiliation of late, it's about 35% Dem, 35% Repub and about 30% "Independent" whatever that means.

So, I think Intense is partially correct and partially incorrect. There are some self-described independents who are no more independent than Nancy Pelosi. They just like the patina of "Independence" but when it really comes down to it, they would never vote for "the other party" unless some strained hypothetical were to occur (they will be happy to tell you about this hypothetical that maintains this patina of Independence too ). There are other parts that are whack jobs to the left and right (Nazis, Communists, socialist workers party, etc.) they are permanently marginalized and unlikely to compromise. The remain bulk of independents are largely made up of people who like Ron Paul, Ross Perot etc. Largely disaffected conservatives/libertarians of one sort or another. I would attribute perhaps 20% of the 30% of independents to this (maybe a little less). In any case, it's a large chunk. Is it larger than conservative Republicans supporting the tea parties? I wouldn't think so. But, at this point, it might be as large.

I mentioned them in my first reply (non-affiliated) I think I said. But there's the detail.

actually, thats changing
last i saw it was about 38% dem 27% gop and 35% "other*"



*Libertarian, Green, Constitutional, etc

Here it is DiveCon - the lie you now claim you never made.

that was talking about the general breakdown of party affiliation across the country you fucking MORON


so, were you LYING, or just WRONG

 

[California Girl]

great news, the nuts leave the republican party(basically splitting it in half) and with the republican base divided the better the chance for a win by the good guys(democrats)

Only a complete fucking numpty would see any political party as the 'good guys'. One bunch of corrupt fucking idiots is as bad an another bunch of corrupt fucking idiots. Until the terminally stupid recognize that simple truth, we are destined to be governed by idiots.

 

[nodoginnafight]

don't think the GOP ever got behind McCain,

Well .... they NOMINATED HIM!!!!!!
Exactly what doe it take to qualify as "getting behind him" in your opinion????????????????????

 

[nodoginnafight]

If you look at the break down of political affiliation of late, it's about 35% Dem, 35% Repub and about 30% "Independent" whatever that means.

So, I think Intense is partially correct and partially incorrect. There are some self-described independents who are no more independent than Nancy Pelosi. They just like the patina of "Independence" but when it really comes down to it, they would never vote for "the other party" unless some strained hypothetical were to occur (they will be happy to tell you about this hypothetical that maintains this patina of Independence too ). There are other parts that are whack jobs to the left and right (Nazis, Communists, socialist workers party, etc.) they are permanently marginalized and unlikely to compromise. The remain bulk of independents are largely made up of people who like Ron Paul, Ross Perot etc. Largely disaffected conservatives/libertarians of one sort or another. I would attribute perhaps 20% of the 30% of independents to this (maybe a little less). In any case, it's a large chunk. Is it larger than conservative Republicans supporting the tea parties? I wouldn't think so. But, at this point, it might be as large.

I mentioned them in my first reply (non-affiliated) I think I said. But there's the detail.

actually, thats changing
last i saw it was about 38% dem 27% gop and 35% "other*"


*Libertarian, Green, Constitutional, etc

you can run ......

 

[nodoginnafight]

Not really. Dive Con and I were discussing which party is more heavily represented among tea partiers. Intense quoted the discussion and replied with one word: "Independents." I was asking her to explain how that one word response applied.

I understand that Democrats, on the whole, are not as sympathetic to the Tea Party cause and that a new party comprised of Tea Partiers would more likely draw a lot more heavily from the GOP than from the Democratic Party. So agreeing with my observation doesn't really answer my question to Intense.

If you look at the break down of political affiliation of late, it's about 35% Dem, 35% Repub and about 30% "Independent" whatever that means.

So, I think Intense is partially correct and partially incorrect. There are some self-described independents who are no more independent than Nancy Pelosi. They just like the patina of "Independence" but when it really comes down to it, they would never vote for "the other party" unless some strained hypothetical were to occur (they will be happy to tell you about this hypothetical that maintains this patina of Independence too ). There are other parts that are whack jobs to the left and right (Nazis, Communists, socialist workers party, etc.) they are permanently marginalized and unlikely to compromise. The remain bulk of independents are largely made up of people who like Ron Paul, Ross Perot etc. Largely disaffected conservatives/libertarians of one sort or another. I would attribute perhaps 20% of the 30% of independents to this (maybe a little less). In any case, it's a large chunk. Is it larger than conservative Republicans supporting the tea parties? I wouldn't think so. But, at this point, it might be as large.

I mentioned them in my first reply (non-affiliated) I think I said. But there's the detail.

actually, thats changing
last i saw it was about 38% dem 27% gop and 35% "other*"


*Libertarian, Green, Constitutional, etc

Ted admitting making HIS numbers up.
Dive Con claimed that he didn't post any numbers at all and when he got busted on THAT lie, he tried to say he was not talking about tea party political affiliation when the bold segments clearly confirm THAT was exactly what we were discussing.

When I called him on him it - he just started cursing and sending neg rep and vulgar private messages.

Folks can make up their own minds about who is credible and who is not - so give this whatever weight you feel it merits. I know that it seriously damages the credibility of a poster in my view - but that's just me.

 

[DiveCon]

If you look at the break down of political affiliation of late, it's about 35% Dem, 35% Repub and about 30% "Independent" whatever that means.

So, I think Intense is partially correct and partially incorrect. There are some self-described independents who are no more independent than Nancy Pelosi. They just like the patina of "Independence" but when it really comes down to it, they would never vote for "the other party" unless some strained hypothetical were to occur (they will be happy to tell you about this hypothetical that maintains this patina of Independence too ). There are other parts that are whack jobs to the left and right (Nazis, Communists, socialist workers party, etc.) they are permanently marginalized and unlikely to compromise. The remain bulk of independents are largely made up of people who like Ron Paul, Ross Perot etc. Largely disaffected conservatives/libertarians of one sort or another. I would attribute perhaps 20% of the 30% of independents to this (maybe a little less). In any case, it's a large chunk. Is it larger than conservative Republicans supporting the tea parties? I wouldn't think so. But, at this point, it might be as large.

I mentioned them in my first reply (non-affiliated) I think I said. But there's the detail.

actually, thats changing
last i saw it was about 38% dem 27% gop and 35% "other*"


*Libertarian, Green, Constitutional, etc

Ted admitting making HIS numbers up.
Dive Con claimed that he didn't post any numbers at all and when he got busted on THAT lie, he tried to say he was not talking about tea party political affiliation when the bold segments clearly confirm THAT was exactly what we were discussing.

When I called him on him it - he just started cursing and sending neg rep and vulgar private messages.

Folks can make up their own minds about who is credible and who is not - so give this whatever weight you feel it merits. I know that it seriously damages the credibility of a poster in my view - but that's just me.

OMG you are one stupid fucking moron
that was talking about the GENERAL breakdown of political affiliation NATIONWIDE

not about the breakdown of political affiliations at the tea party
will you EVER get your head out of your ass enough to see the fucking truth?

and you lie in your name, you sure DO have a dog in this fight

 

[nodoginnafight]

If you look at the break down of political affiliation of late, it's about 35% Dem, 35% Repub and about 30% "Independent" whatever that means.

So, I think Intense is partially correct and partially incorrect. There are some self-described independents who are no more independent than Nancy Pelosi. They just like the patina of "Independence" but when it really comes down to it, they would never vote for "the other party" unless some strained hypothetical were to occur (they will be happy to tell you about this hypothetical that maintains this patina of Independence too ). There are other parts that are whack jobs to the left and right (Nazis, Communists, socialist workers party, etc.) they are permanently marginalized and unlikely to compromise. The remain bulk of independents are largely made up of people who like Ron Paul, Ross Perot etc. Largely disaffected conservatives/libertarians of one sort or another. I would attribute perhaps 20% of the 30% of independents to this (maybe a little less). In any case, it's a large chunk. Is it larger than conservative Republicans supporting the tea parties? I wouldn't think so. But, at this point, it might be as large.

I mentioned them in my first reply (non-affiliated) I think I said. But there's the detail.

actually, thats changing
last i saw it was about 38% dem 27% gop and 35% "other*"


*Libertarian, Green, Constitutional, etc

Ted admitted he made his numbers up ABOUT THE PARTY BREAKDOWN AMONG TEA PARTY ATTENDEES.
That's all ANYONE was ever discussing - INCLUDING YOU!
Now pi$$ off and stop sending me vulgar private messages.

 

[Intense]

Tea party activists from across the nation are rallying around the House special election in upstate New York, viewing it as the first electoral test of the nascent conservative movement’s political muscle.


Organizers up and down the East Coast report that activists are making their way into the campaign offices of Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman, with the volunteers focusing their efforts in Oswego, Madison and Jefferson counties. While tea party organizers say the election is a unique opportunity to hold the Democratic and Republican parties to account, much of their energy is being directed against Dede Scozzafava, the GOP establishment-backed nominee whom they view as a squishy moderate who represents all that is wrong with the Republican Party.


“I went here from Washington, D.C., saying, ‘Now what?’” said Jennifer Bernstone, an organizer for Central New York 912, a Syracuse-based tea party group that so far has about 300 members getting out the vote for Hoffman. “Well, here’s the ‘Now what.’”

NY-23 race first test of tea party power - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com