who's gonna pay for the wall?!

[NYcarbineer]

At least 40% of the illegals currently in the US came in through legal entry points, not by crossing through the border where this wall will supposedly be built.

The wall would cost 25 billion to build not to mention year to year maintenance costs, and the Mexicans will never pay for it.

Building the wall would involve years, maybe decades of litigation.

There is no practical value in pursuing this venture.

Yeah, because solving 60% of the illegal immigration problem just isn't valuable.

You're just another leftwing open-borders douche bag making excuses for doing nothing. No matter what solution is proposed, vermin like you find some reason to poo poo the idea.

It won't solve 60% of the problem because

a. it won't ever get done, and, if that's not enough,

b. it will just redirect more immigrants to the alternative entry points.

And btw, since you don't believe we should even have a federal government with the power to build the wall,

WTF are you weighing in for?

 

[Vigilante]

 

[The Rabbi]

Mexico isnt paying for a wall. Trump is not going to make them. The whole thing is silly and anyone who believes Trump on this is a feeb.

Trump will simply tax remittances to Mexico at a rate of 50%. Mexico will cough up the cash in short order, or the tax on remittances will cover it.

Idiot. He cannot tax remittances to Mexico. Many companies do business there are send money all the time. IN any case it is easy to deposit money in a bank here and withdraw it at an ATM in Tijuana.

 

[Camp]

Mexico isnt paying for a wall. Trump is not going to make them. The whole thing is silly and anyone who believes Trump on this is a feeb.

Trump will simply tax remittances to Mexico at a rate of 50%. Mexico will cough up the cash in short order, or the tax on remittances will cover it.

Ya, because experts at smuggling people, drugs and guns won't be able to figure out how to transfer money in ways that get around a remittance tax.

How do you imagine that some ignorant peasants can transfer money to Mexico without the government knowing about it? Do you imagine they are going to send cash?

Are you going to tax everyone who wires funds to a foreign country or offshore account? A system will be set up the first day your tax becomes a law that enables people to send funds to an intermediator who will be able to transfer the funds to an account in Mexico for a small charge, a charge far less than the tax.

 

[dannyboys]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

That's right asshole tens of thousand of Mexicans or going to buy fucking 'water wings' and attempt to "cross the sea". Or maybe they are going to come up with the money to build rafts? Ever heard of 'high seas interdiction? Trump orders the US Navy as Commander In Chief, with the approval of the REP Congress and REP Senate to enforce all existing laws. No one enters US waters without permission. Once a couple of hundred illegals get turned around a mile from shore the Cartel that controls ALL illegals is going to find the number who are willing to drown at sea reduced dramatically.
The number arriving by plane is more like 40%. Anyway.
President Trump orders the DHS to screen every passenger getting on any plane bound for the US to be fully screened before boarding. There are international agreements with dozens of countries which allow DHS screeners to do this. If you think because Trump is a "construction guy" and that means he can't deal with illegals attempting to arrive by plane or from the ocean you are delusional.
President Trump will tell the Mexican President that starting immediately every vehicle will be thoroughly inspected for drugs before it's allowed into the US. This is going to mean possible days of delay to trucks bringing Mexican produce into the country. Not a fucking gram of meth etc is going to get into the US.
Either that or the corrupt Mexican President can write Trump a cheque for fifty billion dollars to build and maintain the wall drawn from the multi-billions of drug dollars the Mexican Government has hidden in offshore accounts.
What is the Mexican President going to do?
Remember. The LAST thing Mexico wants is to stop being able to make billions from kick-backs from the Cartels. The can't provide decent employment for their own people so send the fuckers to the US where they will work and sent the money back into the Mexican economy. The Mexicans dump their violent criminals and the mentally ill 1/4 mile from the border, hand them a jug of water and tells them not to come back!
Of course the Mexicans don't want to kill off the Golden Goose by having an effective wall between the country's built.

 

[CultureCitizen]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

So you think they're going to go by boat?

They'd have to use cargo ships to equal the amount that cross our borders on foot,and last time I checked there are limited places you can dock a 500ft ship,and it's pretty damn hard to hide on the open ocean.

Lock down the border,I dont care if it's with a wall or manpower.
Stop giving them any kind of support and fine the shit out of businesses that hire them.
Border security is not the final solution,only another piece of enforcement.

Yes, they could use boats. Indeed, mirroring the technique used by Sirians feeing to Europe. By the by Sirians don't use 500 ft boats. And again 50% enter through legal entry/exit points using the visas. Has Trump ( or any other republican ) mentioned that any time during his campaign ?

 

[CultureCitizen]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

That's right asshole tens of thousand of Mexicans or going to buy fucking 'water wings' and attempt to "cross the sea". Or maybe they are going to come up with the money to build rafts? Ever heard of 'high seas interdiction? Trump orders the US Navy as Commander In Chief, with the approval of the REP Congress and REP Senate to enforce all existing laws. No one enters US waters without permission. Once a couple of hundred illegals get turned around a mile from shore the Cartel that controls ALL illegals is going to find the number who are willing to drown at sea reduced dramatically.
The number arriving by plane is more like 40%. Anyway.
President Trump orders the DHS to screen every passenger getting on any plane bound for the US to be fully screened before boarding. There are international agreements with dozens of countries which allow DHS screeners to do this. If you think because Trump is a "construction guy" and that means he can't deal with illegals attempting to arrive by plane or from the ocean you are delusional.
President Trump will tell the Mexican President that starting immediately every vehicle will be thoroughly inspected for drugs before it's allowed into the US. This is going to mean possible days of delay to trucks bringing Mexican produce into the country. Not a fucking gram of meth etc is going to get into the US.
Either that or the corrupt Mexican President can write Trump a cheque for fifty billion dollars to build and maintain the wall drawn from the multi-billions of drug dollars the Mexican Government has hidden in offshore accounts.
What is the Mexican President going to do?
Remember. The LAST thing Mexico wants is to stop being able to make billions from kick-backs from the Cartels. The can't provide decent employment for their own people so send the fuckers to the US where they will work and sent the money back into the Mexican economy. The Mexicans dump their violent criminals and the mentally ill 1/4 mile from the border, hand them a jug of water and tells them not to come back!
Of course the Mexicans don't want to kill off the Golden Goose by having an effective wall between the country's built.

It's more like 50% if you consider those who enter by car... using tourist visas. As I said, go ahead , build the wall. That will not change anything.

By the by the government doesn't actively send them, they flee Mexico on their own because of unemployment and Cartel violence ... and, let's not forget about it that violence is supported illegaly exported guns which should have remained in the US.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

So you think they're going to go by boat?

They'd have to use cargo ships to equal the amount that cross our borders on foot,and last time I checked there are limited places you can dock a 500ft ship,and it's pretty damn hard to hide on the open ocean.

Lock down the border,I dont care if it's with a wall or manpower.
Stop giving them any kind of support and fine the shit out of businesses that hire them.
Border security is not the final solution,only another piece of enforcement.

Yes, they could use boats. Indeed, mirroring the technique used by Sirians feeing to Europe. By the by Sirians don't use 500 ft boats. And again 50% enter through legal entry/exit points using the visas. Has Trump ( or any other republican ) mentioned that any time during his campaign ?

Sorry but catching immigrants coming in by boat is far easier than stopping them crossing a 2000 mile border on foot.
And you totally ignored the rest of my post so I'll say it again...Border security is only part of the problem.
No gov assistance of any kind,no jobs,no school...absofuckinglutely NOTHING!!!
And they'll stop coming.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

That's right asshole tens of thousand of Mexicans or going to buy fucking 'water wings' and attempt to "cross the sea". Or maybe they are going to come up with the money to build rafts? Ever heard of 'high seas interdiction? Trump orders the US Navy as Commander In Chief, with the approval of the REP Congress and REP Senate to enforce all existing laws. No one enters US waters without permission. Once a couple of hundred illegals get turned around a mile from shore the Cartel that controls ALL illegals is going to find the number who are willing to drown at sea reduced dramatically.
The number arriving by plane is more like 40%. Anyway.
President Trump orders the DHS to screen every passenger getting on any plane bound for the US to be fully screened before boarding. There are international agreements with dozens of countries which allow DHS screeners to do this. If you think because Trump is a "construction guy" and that means he can't deal with illegals attempting to arrive by plane or from the ocean you are delusional.
President Trump will tell the Mexican President that starting immediately every vehicle will be thoroughly inspected for drugs before it's allowed into the US. This is going to mean possible days of delay to trucks bringing Mexican produce into the country. Not a fucking gram of meth etc is going to get into the US.
Either that or the corrupt Mexican President can write Trump a cheque for fifty billion dollars to build and maintain the wall drawn from the multi-billions of drug dollars the Mexican Government has hidden in offshore accounts.
What is the Mexican President going to do?
Remember. The LAST thing Mexico wants is to stop being able to make billions from kick-backs from the Cartels. The can't provide decent employment for their own people so send the fuckers to the US where they will work and sent the money back into the Mexican economy. The Mexicans dump their violent criminals and the mentally ill 1/4 mile from the border, hand them a jug of water and tells them not to come back!
Of course the Mexicans don't want to kill off the Golden Goose by having an effective wall between the country's built.

It's more like 50% if you consider those who enter by car... using tourist visas. As I said, go ahead , build the wall. That will not change anything.

By the by the government doesn't actively send them, they flee Mexico on their own because of unemployment and Cartel violence ... and, let's not forget about it that violence is supported illegaly exported guns which should have remained in the US.

Bullshit on the guns....unless you want to count Barry's contribution.
While obviously some are coming from the US the numbers quoted by the left are grossly inflated.
And how about this? If we have increased border security it will also stop guns from the US from getting into mexico.

Counting Mexico’s Guns

 

[dannyboys]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

That's right asshole tens of thousand of Mexicans or going to buy fucking 'water wings' and attempt to "cross the sea". Or maybe they are going to come up with the money to build rafts? Ever heard of 'high seas interdiction? Trump orders the US Navy as Commander In Chief, with the approval of the REP Congress and REP Senate to enforce all existing laws. No one enters US waters without permission. Once a couple of hundred illegals get turned around a mile from shore the Cartel that controls ALL illegals is going to find the number who are willing to drown at sea reduced dramatically.
The number arriving by plane is more like 40%. Anyway.
President Trump orders the DHS to screen every passenger getting on any plane bound for the US to be fully screened before boarding. There are international agreements with dozens of countries which allow DHS screeners to do this. If you think because Trump is a "construction guy" and that means he can't deal with illegals attempting to arrive by plane or from the ocean you are delusional.
President Trump will tell the Mexican President that starting immediately every vehicle will be thoroughly inspected for drugs before it's allowed into the US. This is going to mean possible days of delay to trucks bringing Mexican produce into the country. Not a fucking gram of meth etc is going to get into the US.
Either that or the corrupt Mexican President can write Trump a cheque for fifty billion dollars to build and maintain the wall drawn from the multi-billions of drug dollars the Mexican Government has hidden in offshore accounts.
What is the Mexican President going to do?
Remember. The LAST thing Mexico wants is to stop being able to make billions from kick-backs from the Cartels. The can't provide decent employment for their own people so send the fuckers to the US where they will work and sent the money back into the Mexican economy. The Mexicans dump their violent criminals and the mentally ill 1/4 mile from the border, hand them a jug of water and tells them not to come back!
Of course the Mexicans don't want to kill off the Golden Goose by having an effective wall between the country's built.

It's more like 50% if you consider those who enter by car... using tourist visas. As I said, go ahead , build the wall. That will not change anything.

By the by the government doesn't actively send them, they flee Mexico on their own because of unemployment and Cartel violence ... and, let's not forget about it that violence is supported illegaly exported guns which should have remained in the US.

Total wanker bullshit as usual. What are you like twelve?
First off 99% of the guns in Mexico are brought in by the drug cartels. The cartels buy these guns from E. European gun manufacturers who make VERY cheap knock-off copies of guns made by manufacturers like Glock. Glock has been trying for years to shut down these illegal VERY cheap copies. Recently China and India have got into the business. These guns arrive in ship containers directly from Eastern Europe.
Your bullshit fantasy opinion is based on the F&F fiasco. Only about a thousand guns were ever involved. So fucking wise up! You're making a fool of yourself.
The fact is these cheap knockoffs are then bought by the fucking street gangs in the US who sell them and the dope they buy from the cartels to the thugs in the inner city shitholes they live in. I have personally seen these cheap Glock knock-offs after being confiscated by LE. The gun and one loaded clip for 100 bucks on any inner city street.
Try firing off the clip and the odds of the gun jamming are about 100%. IF you are lucky and the gun fires off all the rounds forget using store bought replacement rounds. They WON'T FUCKING FIT! in the clip because the tolerances aren't accurate enough! The rounds bought with the gun are also knockoffs. These E. European manufacturers aren't dumb. They know the cartel members only buy genuine Glocks etc. Who gives a fuck if a negro thug tries to use the gun and it explodes or jamms?
Of course the Mexican Government sends its most violent criminals and mental patients to sneak into the US.
Everyone of those inmates costs the Mexican government money to house and feed. What's the point of spending that money when the dummies across the border will put them in prisons and institutes?
Satellite photos have repeatedly shown school buses pulling up to Mexican prisons. Getting loaded up with inmates and driving the inmates to the border. Then showing the inmates crossing the border.
When Trump made the statement that the Mexican government was actively doing this......guess what? There is PROOF what he says is completely accurate.
Again wise up!

 

[dannyboys]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

So you think they're going to go by boat?

They'd have to use cargo ships to equal the amount that cross our borders on foot,and last time I checked there are limited places you can dock a 500ft ship,and it's pretty damn hard to hide on the open ocean.

Lock down the border,I dont care if it's with a wall or manpower.
Stop giving them any kind of support and fine the shit out of businesses that hire them.
Border security is not the final solution,only another piece of enforcement.

Yes, they could use boats. Indeed, mirroring the technique used by Sirians feeing to Europe. By the by Sirians don't use 500 ft boats. And again 50% enter through legal entry/exit points using the visas. Has Trump ( or any other republican ) mentioned that any time during his campaign ?

There is zero comparison between the Syrian navy and the US navy's ability to interdict illegals attempting enter the country nor in any other way. Wise up. Learn to use the fucking spell check or I'm putting you on PI.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

So you think they're going to go by boat?

They'd have to use cargo ships to equal the amount that cross our borders on foot,and last time I checked there are limited places you can dock a 500ft ship,and it's pretty damn hard to hide on the open ocean.

Lock down the border,I dont care if it's with a wall or manpower.
Stop giving them any kind of support and fine the shit out of businesses that hire them.
Border security is not the final solution,only another piece of enforcement.

Yes, they could use boats. Indeed, mirroring the technique used by Sirians feeing to Europe. By the by Sirians don't use 500 ft boats. And again 50% enter through legal entry/exit points using the visas. Has Trump ( or any other republican ) mentioned that any time during his campaign ?

There is zero comparison between the Syrian navy and the US navy's ability to interdict illegals attempting enter enter the country nor in any other way. Wise up. Learn to use the fucking spell check or I'm putting you on PI.

And the same can be said about the UK navy.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

I think rich people should pay for the wall.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

That's right asshole tens of thousand of Mexicans or going to buy fucking 'water wings' and attempt to "cross the sea". Or maybe they are going to come up with the money to build rafts? Ever heard of 'high seas interdiction? Trump orders the US Navy as Commander In Chief, with the approval of the REP Congress and REP Senate to enforce all existing laws. No one enters US waters without permission. Once a couple of hundred illegals get turned around a mile from shore the Cartel that controls ALL illegals is going to find the number who are willing to drown at sea reduced dramatically.
The number arriving by plane is more like 40%. Anyway.
President Trump orders the DHS to screen every passenger getting on any plane bound for the US to be fully screened before boarding. There are international agreements with dozens of countries which allow DHS screeners to do this. If you think because Trump is a "construction guy" and that means he can't deal with illegals attempting to arrive by plane or from the ocean you are delusional.
President Trump will tell the Mexican President that starting immediately every vehicle will be thoroughly inspected for drugs before it's allowed into the US. This is going to mean possible days of delay to trucks bringing Mexican produce into the country. Not a fucking gram of meth etc is going to get into the US.
Either that or the corrupt Mexican President can write Trump a cheque for fifty billion dollars to build and maintain the wall drawn from the multi-billions of drug dollars the Mexican Government has hidden in offshore accounts.
What is the Mexican President going to do?
Remember. The LAST thing Mexico wants is to stop being able to make billions from kick-backs from the Cartels. The can't provide decent employment for their own people so send the fuckers to the US where they will work and sent the money back into the Mexican economy. The Mexicans dump their violent criminals and the mentally ill 1/4 mile from the border, hand them a jug of water and tells them not to come back!
Of course the Mexicans don't want to kill off the Golden Goose by having an effective wall between the country's built.

You what you should call all these Trump proposals?

The Dream Act, because you're dreaming if you think any of it will ever get done.

 

[CultureCitizen]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

So you think they're going to go by boat?

They'd have to use cargo ships to equal the amount that cross our borders on foot,and last time I checked there are limited places you can dock a 500ft ship,and it's pretty damn hard to hide on the open ocean.

Lock down the border,I dont care if it's with a wall or manpower.
Stop giving them any kind of support and fine the shit out of businesses that hire them.
Border security is not the final solution,only another piece of enforcement.

Yes, they could use boats. Indeed, mirroring the technique used by Sirians feeing to Europe. By the by Sirians don't use 500 ft boats. And again 50% enter through legal entry/exit points using the visas. Has Trump ( or any other republican ) mentioned that any time during his campaign ?

There is zero comparison between the Syrian navy and the US navy's ability to interdict illegals attempting enter the country nor in any other way. Wise up. Learn to use the fucking spell check or I'm putting you on PI.

You moron, it is not the Syrian navy intercepting their own illegals, but the navy from European countries trying to stop them ( France, Italy, Greece) . And they have not been very successfull at it.

 

[dannyboys]

I think rich people should pay for the wall.

Then you'll be happy when the president of Mexico writes Trump he cheque. He gets paid about 600K a year but for some reason has an estimated worth of about 50 million.
He must have been following some of Hillary's 'magic' investment' ideas.

 

[dannyboys]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

So you think they're going to go by boat?

They'd have to use cargo ships to equal the amount that cross our borders on foot,and last time I checked there are limited places you can dock a 500ft ship,and it's pretty damn hard to hide on the open ocean.

Lock down the border,I dont care if it's with a wall or manpower.
Stop giving them any kind of support and fine the shit out of businesses that hire them.
Border security is not the final solution,only another piece of enforcement.

Yes, they could use boats. Indeed, mirroring the technique used by Sirians feeing to Europe. By the by Sirians don't use 500 ft boats. And again 50% enter through legal entry/exit points using the visas. Has Trump ( or any other republican ) mentioned that any time during his campaign ?

There is zero comparison between the Syrian navy and the US navy's ability to interdict illegals attempting enter the country nor in any other way. Wise up. Learn to use the fucking spell check or I'm putting you on PI.

You moron, it is not the Syrian navy intercepting their own illegals, but the navy from European countries trying to stop them ( France, Italy, Greece) . And they have not been very successful at it.

Learned how to fucking spell the name of the country I see. That's a start.
If you believe the US Navy can't stop illegals from trying to enter the US by using boats you're delusional.
BTW. You tied your 'man-bun' up crooked this morning.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

So you think they're going to go by boat?

They'd have to use cargo ships to equal the amount that cross our borders on foot,and last time I checked there are limited places you can dock a 500ft ship,and it's pretty damn hard to hide on the open ocean.

Lock down the border,I dont care if it's with a wall or manpower.
Stop giving them any kind of support and fine the shit out of businesses that hire them.
Border security is not the final solution,only another piece of enforcement.

Yes, they could use boats. Indeed, mirroring the technique used by Sirians feeing to Europe. By the by Sirians don't use 500 ft boats. And again 50% enter through legal entry/exit points using the visas. Has Trump ( or any other republican ) mentioned that any time during his campaign ?

There is zero comparison between the Syrian navy and the US navy's ability to interdict illegals attempting enter the country nor in any other way. Wise up. Learn to use the fucking spell check or I'm putting you on PI.

You moron, it is not the Syrian navy intercepting their own illegals, but the navy from European countries trying to stop them ( France, Italy, Greece) . And they have not been very successfull at it.

You cant measure france,germany and greases navy/coast guard to ours.
Even if you put em all together.

 

[BluesLegend]

Ultimately the Democratic party will pay for the wall, their plans to subvert the United States with millions of poor government dependent illegals in tatters.

 

[The Rabbi]

Putting up a wall and making 'Mexico pay for it' is not rocket science. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY easy to do so. The only problem we face that prevents us from already having done so is not the lack of ability to do so but rather the lack of the WILL / DESIRE to do so.

'Mexico WOULD pay for the wall if we decided to and took action to do so. They have no say in the matter regarding several courses of actions we could take and very little to say about it if we decided to go other routes.

1. 'Foreign Aid' Wall Fund:
The United States doles out millions to Mexico every year in the form of 'foreign aid'. Simply do not pay Mexico a dime in foreign aid, using the money instead to fund the building the wall. Technically US Tax payers would still be paying for it, but we would be using tax dollars Mexico was going to get.

2. Freeze and Seize:
Mexico has billions in assets in the US. Freeze their bank accounts and use their own funds in these accounts to ay for the construction of a wall, monitoring systems, and other additional security measures. Once the project is complete release Mexico's assets back to them.As
- I would also cut checks from those same Mexican Bank accounts to the families of those American citizens murdered / killed by illegals in this country.

Again, we have no problem making it happen other than the political will to do so.

As per my previous post:
1) And once the wall is nice and done, people will start crossing by the sea... just as refugees do in Europe.
2) Half of the illegals arive by plane, tighter screenings might do the job, but Trump is a construction guy, so I guess a big wall goes more with his usual line of business.

Evenmore: The driving force behilnd immigration is the law of supply and demand, people come , because the jobs are available, not the other way round.

That's right asshole tens of thousand of Mexicans or going to buy fucking 'water wings' and attempt to "cross the sea". Or maybe they are going to come up with the money to build rafts? Ever heard of 'high seas interdiction? Trump orders the US Navy as Commander In Chief, with the approval of the REP Congress and REP Senate to enforce all existing laws. No one enters US waters without permission. Once a couple of hundred illegals get turned around a mile from shore the Cartel that controls ALL illegals is going to find the number who are willing to drown at sea reduced dramatically.
The number arriving by plane is more like 40%. Anyway.
President Trump orders the DHS to screen every passenger getting on any plane bound for the US to be fully screened before boarding. There are international agreements with dozens of countries which allow DHS screeners to do this. If you think because Trump is a "construction guy" and that means he can't deal with illegals attempting to arrive by plane or from the ocean you are delusional.
President Trump will tell the Mexican President that starting immediately every vehicle will be thoroughly inspected for drugs before it's allowed into the US. This is going to mean possible days of delay to trucks bringing Mexican produce into the country. Not a fucking gram of meth etc is going to get into the US.
Either that or the corrupt Mexican President can write Trump a cheque for fifty billion dollars to build and maintain the wall drawn from the multi-billions of drug dollars the Mexican Government has hidden in offshore accounts.
What is the Mexican President going to do?
Remember. The LAST thing Mexico wants is to stop being able to make billions from kick-backs from the Cartels. The can't provide decent employment for their own people so send the fuckers to the US where they will work and sent the money back into the Mexican economy. The Mexicans dump their violent criminals and the mentally ill 1/4 mile from the border, hand them a jug of water and tells them not to come back!
Of course the Mexicans don't want to kill off the Golden Goose by having an effective wall between the country's built.

Dumbshit. Israel has a wall to keep out terrorists. The wall is near populated areas and relatively small. Guess what? It doesnt work. Terrorists have networks of tunnels underneath they use. Why do you think a wall on the border will be any different?