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wow sounds like a long period of peace before that surge of attacks near our election
They weren't obligations on our part, moron. They were escape clauses.Our obligations in the Doha Accords were complete in the Summer of 2020. The extra troop reduction was done in the final months of 2020 over the objections of the Generals. The Taliban only fully complied with the truce and none of the peace measures of the Agreement. So Trump ignored all that while withdrawing the bulk of the forces. The forces that could be used as leverage to get the Taliban in compliance. But you want to blame Biden for not re-deploying enough troops to force them to comply? Did you want him to reconquer the 5 bases Trump abandoned too?
They weren't obligations on our part, moron. They were escape clauses.
It doesn't matter what they tried to sell it as. It had provisions and the Taliban violated those provisions. Biden failed to hold them accountable.So for you it wasn't an "Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan" but rather the Trumpybear Skedaddle plan?
wow sounds like a long period of peace before that surge of attacks near our election
to impact the elections.Why do you think that the Taliban surge has anything to do with the US elections?
The rest of the world really doesn’t give a shit about the US elections, except as they might affect foreign. The Taliban certainly wouldn’t care because the Americans were gone and they weren’t coming back.
nah it was the electionAfghan War Casualty Report: September 2020. At least 429 pro-government forces and 134 civilians were killed in Afghanistan in September.
That NYT's one is behind a paywall. It wasn't the elections, it was the continued withdrawal of American and our allies troops as well as the prospect of a complete withdrawal in the next year.
nab it was the election. We had over 5k troops there still at the time of these surgesAfghan War Casualty Report: September 2020. At least 429 pro-government forces and 134 civilians were killed in Afghanistan in September.
That NYT's one is behind a paywall. It wasn't the elections, it was the continued withdrawal of American and our allies troops as well as the prospect of a complete withdrawal in the next year.
It doesn't matter what they tried to sell it as. It had provisions and the Taliban violated those provisions. Biden failed to hold them accountable.
there was nothing vague about it, that why the UN all signed off on itWhen I read the provisions of that agreement, it looks like an agreement that was set up to fail. We see that occasionally in business when you’re dealing with a sleazy operator like Donald Trump.
The terms are somewhat vague. Either side can easily claim a “default”, giving them the excuse to “void” at the drop of a hat.
If Donald Trump had been reelected, he probably would’ve voided the agreement on some pretext or other to avoid pulling the troops out of Afghanistan and having the same sort of PR fiasco that Biden had.
Biden actually pulled off the most successful withdrawal after losing a war in the history of the world.
With nothing like the nightmare that was Nixon, pulling out of Vietnam. Americans watched horror on television as people died while the last helicopters were leaving.
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At first Biden said he followed Trump's plan, then he came out and said Trump didn't leave him a plan. Either way he tried to blame Trump.
Biden Admits Mistakes in Afghanistan Withdrawal
The White House placed much of the blame for the deadly and chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan with the Trump administration.time.com
to impact the elections.
americans we’re gone during the attacks mentioned in the post i responded to
Well Biden told us he had no plan, after he told us Trump left a plan he followed. LolHas Trump admitted any of his responsibility for what happened, for the way he set it up ? Let us know when.
Lol, the Taliban loves Biden. He made them a top military and sent them billions after that. He should be executed for that alone.What would the Taliban care about who got elected in the USA? They hate you all. There has been no difference between Republicans or Democrats in the war. It doesn’t matter to the Taliban who sits in your White House.
The only people who are interested in whom wins American elections, are Putin, Xi, Kim, Erdogan, and Bondonaro.
All of the authoritarian dictators want Donald Trump to join their club because he’ll let them divide up the world between them.
why? look what happened when they got xiden…a total surrenderWhat would the Taliban care about who got elected in the USA? They hate you all. There has been no difference between Republicans or Democrats in the war. It doesn’t matter to the Taliban who sits in your White House.
The only people who are interested in whom wins American elections, are Putin, Xi, Kim, Erdogan, and Bondonaro.
All of the authoritarian dictators want Donald Trump to join their club because he’ll let them divide up the world between them.
Trump told the Taliban that if they interfered in any way with the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan or with the duly installed government, retaliation would be quick, certain, disastrous for the Taliban. And they knew he meant it.Why did Trump withdraw all those troops while allowing the Taliban to skate on 6 out of 7 of the Conditions agreed to before our withdrawal? How about those 5 bases Trump abandoned to the Taliban or the 5,000 fighters he force the Afghans to swap 1,000 Afghans held by the Taliban. That's twice as many Taliban fighter as troops that were left for Biden to complete the evacuation.
History will not be kind to the Trump implementation of his Skedaddle Accords, ops I mean Doha Accords......
there was nothing vague about it, that why the UN all signed off on it
the taliban won big time when xiden got electedTrump told the Taliban that if they interfered in any way with the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan or with the duly installed government, retaliation would be quick, certain, disastrous for the Taliban. And they knew he meant it.
He would have gotten every American citizen and at risk ally out who wanted out, gotten all our stuff out, and left the Afghan government in place and the Taliban in check.
Biden reversed all that and his deadly and chaotic withdrawal left billions of our equipment behind, at least some of it useful to the Taliban, and he left hundreds if not thousands of American citizens and our faithful allies behind, many to be hunted down, arrested, executed. And that is still going on.
nah it was clear. we didn’t have to leave. xiden did anyway cause rhe ignored itThere are no clear definitions on what constitutes breaches of the agreement. Vague clauses voiding the Agreement if the Taliban engage in or supports “terrorist activities” are a prime example.
If an angry teenager throws a rock at departing US soldiers, does that constitute a “terrorist activity”? Once Taliban becomes the official government of Afghanistan, then doesn’t the definition “terrorist activities” shift?
At the point that the Taliban becomes a government, the USA and its allies become the terrorists.
The attack that killed the 13 Americans at the airport was carried out by ISIS, not the Taliban. Does that count? Technically any act of terrorism carried out by anyone on either side in the entire country would void the agreement. That’s what we mean by vague provisions.
And there it is. When you can't refute a statement you call it a MAGA lie. With no proof, only what your masters tell you. Pathetic and furthering your lies.Got a cite for my “claim”? Went through all my posts and couldn’t find it. Smells like another MAGA lie!
why? look what happened when they got xiden…a total surrender
of course they cared.
