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Was that addressed to Russia or Ukraine? Russia doesn't appear very powerful at the moment.better to give some land away to demanding yet powerful fellow humans from nearby those lands,
than almost-perpetual war.
So the West is corrupt but Putin is not? His Russia is built on corruption and that is one reason his military is doing so poorly.yeah, surpriiiiiise! another piece of evidence that the US and EU administrations were on a corrupt path in Ukraine from 2000 onwards.
maybe even from the 1990s or 1980s (when the Berlin wall fell).
i don't even know what 'utilitarian war' *is*..peacefan believes in the Russian doctrine of utilitarian war.
Zelensky is an insane hobbit.
He's the court jester for the NWO.
Ukraine can't even retake the territory they have already lost unless NATO escalates this to WWIII
Ukraine. and you know what they say about the Russian bear : don't provoke it.Was that addressed to Russia or Ukraine? Russia doesn't appear very powerful at the moment.
there's internal domestic corruption, which every government system on Earth is guilty of,So the West is corrupt but Putin is not? His Russia is built on corruption and that is one reason his military is doing so poorly.
here we see the ultimate territorial greed by NATO and the EU displayed in "brave mr Zelensky's publicly stated goals".
a sea (the Black Sea) with connection at Turkey to the Medditeranean Sea and thus The Atlantic,
control of which is vital to the defense of Russia itself,
was taken from Russia via the principles of media manipulation, political manipulations and voting results manipulations in Ukraine (by The West, in the 2000s and 2010s probably, but before that as well).
and now that Russia finally stepped in and liberated the Russian native speakers in that region, who clearly indicated in several referendums that they wanted to be a part of Russia,
as well as that naval base, and while Zelensky is losing his war to regain control over his old border territories,
i do suspect the US Democrats to be supporting mr Zelensky for another round of war, that has no doubt proven very profitable for the insiders at the top, and more and more rounds (years!) of war.
juuuuust great. NOT!
Zelensky the comedian puppet should think twice before saying that he wants to.... or even dreams to, take back Crimea.
What a piece of idiot he is!
he should have never risen to power in the first place, that would've saved millions of Ukranian and Russian lives, and it also would've kept Russian criminals in jail.He wants back a part of his country that was taken by force in 2014?
I mean, SHOCKING....
he should have never risen to power in the first place, that would've saved millions of Ukranian and Russian lives, and it also would've kept Russian criminals in jail.
Their demands are not reasonable and their power is not adequate to their demands.i don't even know what 'utilitarian war' *is*..
i do believe that you shouldn't take on a population size that outnumbers you 3:1 (that's the entire (Middle-)Eastern Alliance of Iran, China, North Korea and Russia and their allies combined, vs the West and their allies),
not when they have reasonable demands.
Who is they? Did Poland provoke it or did Russia make a secret pact with Hitler to divide the country between them? Did the Finns provoke them or did they beat them to a draw when the Russians invaded them? Did Hungry provoke them in the 50's by wanting their freedom?Ukraine. and you know what they say about the Russian bear : don't provoke it.
You are welcome to your opinion of the West's territorial greed, there is plenty of evidence to support it, but I think that went out of fashion after WWII. The West didn't install puppet regimes and build walls to keep people in, Russia did. Is that the kind of government you'd prefer? The people who experienced Russian domination were overjoyed when it ended. That is what is know as reality.there's internal domestic corruption, which every government system on Earth is guilty of,
and international corruption that involves warmongering and actual wars getting fought.
in *my* opinion, the West is far more guilty of international corruption and territorial greed than the (Middle-)Eastern Alliance has been so far.
Putin has no real plans for conquest, and like i said, and you acknowledge, Ukraine was taken from him by NATO by political wrangling that spanned decades.Says who?
Putin would have invaded unless Putin had his own puppet in place.
So, we just appease Putin like Chamberlain did Hitler? Just for "peace"?
i'm gonna have to give this one more careful thought.Russia has always been aware that it has no natural western border, so its usual way of preventing columns of tanks from streaming into Moscow is to constantly expand. Obviously, this sometimes works better than others, but this has been their general outlook since Ivan the Terrible at least. Buffer states work well; they have Belarus in the north now, but their attempts to swoon a Russian-controlled Ukrainian government did not work so well, so they went for something more hands-on. The standard excuse of expansionist dictators is "We were protecting our ethnic brethren," which is what they used.
It appears as if the invasion is going against Russia at the moment, though, so I imagine they'd be happy to negotiate peace right now if it meant they could keep Crimea and the eastern Ukrainian lands they already control. Peace is the last thing that Ukraine should want right now, because they'd lose a bunch of their own land; they only need to look at Finland during the Winter War, who still haven't gotten back the 10% or so of their area that they lost to a similar treaty, for justification.
Also, blowing up infrastructure is something that retreating armies do. It's called "scorched earth tactics" for a reason; no one floods or irradiates their own land and people.
The other massive limiting factor preventing Russia from being the world power that it really, really wants to be is its lack of a warm-weather port. It has had modest shipbuilding capabilities on the Black Sea for a while, but Sevastapol allows it to build more warships more quickly, which they have been doing since 2014. Control of all of Ukraine would give them even one more, at Odessa.
As for long-term goals, we have to consider the Bosporus, the narrow strait between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean. Without it, any Russian navy might as well be stranded on a really big lake. International treaty has given Turkey (a NATO member) control of the Bosporus since 1936, and they are happy to let through Russian trade vessels but only a limited number of Russian warships. With control of it (attempts at which date back to the Viking age), Russia could deploy a new, modern, large navy into the Atlantic and Indian Oceans, which Putin would absolutely love to leave as his legacy.
same here; needs more of my thinking time than i got available right now; i need to get to work on technical issues for my site.Who is they? Did Poland provoke it or did Russia make a secret pact with Hitler to divide the country between them? Did the Finns provoke them or did they beat them to a draw when the Russians invaded them? Did Hungry provoke them in the 50's by wanting their freedom?
You are welcome to your opinion of the West's territorial greed, there is plenty of evidence to support it, but I think that went out of fashion after WWII. The West didn't install puppet regimes and build walls to keep people in, Russia did. Is that the kind of government you'd prefer? The people who experienced Russian domination were overjoyed when it ended. That is what is know as reality.
i gotta wonder if that is a bit of a myth that's been projected by western governments as part of their expansionistic efforts into far-eastern Europe,Who is they? Did Poland provoke it or did Russia make a secret pact with Hitler to divide the country between them? Did the Finns provoke them or did they beat them to a draw when the Russians invaded them? Did Hungry provoke them in the 50's by wanting their freedom?
You are welcome to your opinion of the West's territorial greed, there is plenty of evidence to support it, but I think that went out of fashion after WWII. The West didn't install puppet regimes and build walls to keep people in, Russia did. Is that the kind of government you'd prefer? The people who experienced Russian domination were overjoyed when it ended. That is what is know as reality.
