Why A "Good Guy with a Gun" is Bullshit

[hadit]

How many of these shooting occurred at locations that declared themselves "gun free zones" but did nothing to assure that?

You can't say "CCW's do nothing" when most of these shootings take place in areas CCW's are either disarmed by law, or by the desire of the property owner.

Until recently all public areas were gun free zones.
People were being shot in them long before that stupid name was slapped on them.
Making the term meaningless .
Then you assholes have since attempted to
Make a false correlation between the gun toting zone and gun free zones

How many of these shooting occurred at locations that declared themselves "gun free zones" but did nothing to assure that?

You can't say "CCW's do nothing" when most of these shootings take place in areas CCW's are either disarmed by law, or by the desire of the property owner.

Until recently all public areas were gun free zones.
People were being shot in them long before that stupid name was slapped on them.
Making the term meaningless .
Then you assholes have since attempted to
Make a false correlation between the gun toting zone and gun free zones

Nope...nuts and terrorists started attacking gun free zones.......and you guys want them to stay gun free for law abiding people......the ones who actually obey the law, and the ones being murdered in your gun free zones...

False there is no evidence of planned attacks on so called gun free zones because they are "gun free".
That's a lie you clowns tell youselves .

Well, cowards like mass murders always pick the easiest, path of a least resistance. It's in their very nature, no easier path for a murderer than thru a "gun free zone"... Dip shit

Gun free zones are imaginary slapdick.
A mass murder will shoot no matter what.
They will inevitably kill as many as possible whether or not they are being shot at.

And when no one shoots back at them, they will kill more people. Can anyone really argue with that?

 

[daws101]

Until recently all public areas were gun free zones.
People were being shot in them long before that stupid name was slapped on them.
Making the term meaningless .
Then you assholes have since attempted to
Make a false correlation between the gun toting zone and gun free zones

Until recently all public areas were gun free zones.
People were being shot in them long before that stupid name was slapped on them.
Making the term meaningless .
Then you assholes have since attempted to
Make a false correlation between the gun toting zone and gun free zones

Nope...nuts and terrorists started attacking gun free zones.......and you guys want them to stay gun free for law abiding people......the ones who actually obey the law, and the ones being murdered in your gun free zones...

False there is no evidence of planned attacks on so called gun free zones because they are "gun free".
That's a lie you clowns tell youselves .

Well, cowards like mass murders always pick the easiest, path of a least resistance. It's in their very nature, no easier path for a murderer than thru a "gun free zone"... Dip shit

Gun free zones are imaginary slapdick.
A mass murder will shoot no matter what.
They will inevitably kill as many as possible whether or not they are being shot at.

And when no one shoots back at them, they will kill more people. Can anyone really argue with that?

It all depends on the skill of the good guy shooters.

The Myth of the Good Guy With the Gun

That’s neither true in general nor true in this instance. The FBI tells us that active-shooter scenarios occur in all sorts of environments where guns are allowed—homes, businesses, outdoor spaces. (In fact, there was another mass shooting the same day as the Oregon massacre, leaving three dead and one severely wounded in a home in North Florida.) And Umpqua Community College itself wasn’t a gun-free zone. Oregon is one of seven states that allow guns on college campuses—the consequence of a 2011 court decision that overturned a longstanding ban. In 2012, the state board of education introduced several limitations on campus carry, but those were not widely enforced.

Read more: The Myth of the Good Guy With the Gun
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[daws101]

Charles Joseph Whitman was an American engineering student at the University of Texas and mass murderer who gunned down 49 people, killing 16. In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and his mother in their homes. Wikipedia

Died: August 1, 1966, Austin, TX
Spouse: Kathy Leissner (m. 1962–1966)

There were dozens of cops with rifles shooting back at him.

 

[hadit]

Nope...nuts and terrorists started attacking gun free zones.......and you guys want them to stay gun free for law abiding people......the ones who actually obey the law, and the ones being murdered in your gun free zones...

False there is no evidence of planned attacks on so called gun free zones because they are "gun free".
That's a lie you clowns tell youselves .

Well, cowards like mass murders always pick the easiest, path of a least resistance. It's in their very nature, no easier path for a murderer than thru a "gun free zone"... Dip shit

Gun free zones are imaginary slapdick.
A mass murder will shoot no matter what.
They will inevitably kill as many as possible whether or not they are being shot at.

And when no one shoots back at them, they will kill more people. Can anyone really argue with that?

It all depends on the skill of the good guy shooters.

The Myth of the Good Guy With the Gun

That’s neither true in general nor true in this instance. The FBI tells us that active-shooter scenarios occur in all sorts of environments where guns are allowed—homes, businesses, outdoor spaces. (In fact, there was another mass shooting the same day as the Oregon massacre, leaving three dead and one severely wounded in a home in North Florida.) And Umpqua Community College itself wasn’t a gun-free zone. Oregon is one of seven states that allow guns on college campuses—the consequence of a 2011 court decision that overturned a longstanding ban. In 2012, the state board of education introduced several limitations on campus carry, but those were not widely enforced.

Read more: The Myth of the Good Guy With the Gun
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Then the success of the original shooter is totally dependent on his skill with a gun too. The FACT, though, is that the shooter keeps on killing people until he is stopped by some external force. That force might be running out of ammo or the police showing up after a lot of people are dead. Or it might be an armed victim that shoots back at him. An armed victim alters the shooters intent, spoils his plan, and distracts him from the unhindered killing that he was hoping to carry out, because he now has to deal with a threat instead of a bunch of unarmed people just lined up to be killed. The FACT is that an armed victim can stop being a victim much more easily than an unarmed one can. The FACT is that a weapon in the hand of a victim is a last line of defense for him and those around him. The FACT is that you want to take that line of defense away, and you have no good reason for doing so. You keep dodging and bringing in all sorts of peripheral thoughts, excuses, and ideas that have nothing to do with that central reality.

 

[hadit]

Charles Joseph Whitman was an American engineering student at the University of Texas and mass murderer who gunned down 49 people, killing 16. In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and his mother in their homes. Wikipedia

Died: August 1, 1966, Austin, TX
Spouse: Kathy Leissner (m. 1962–1966)

There were dozens of cops with rifles shooting back at him.

What is the purpose of that post? To make the point that the cops should not have been armed?

 

[daws101]

Charles Joseph Whitman was an American engineering student at the University of Texas and mass murderer who gunned down 49 people, killing 16. In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and his mother in their homes. Wikipedia

Died: August 1, 1966, Austin, TX
Spouse: Kathy Leissner (m. 1962–1966)

There were dozens of cops with rifles shooting back at him.

What is the purpose of that post? To make the point that the cops should not have been armed?

Are you really that ignorant?

The point of that post is gun toting citizens are not the panacea you clowns wish it was.
If the police (trained shooters) could not stop him , what do think the odds are the Joe six pack and his merry band of buddies could do any better. ?

 

[daws101]

False there is no evidence of planned attacks on so called gun free zones because they are "gun free".
That's a lie you clowns tell youselves .

Well, cowards like mass murders always pick the easiest, path of a least resistance. It's in their very nature, no easier path for a murderer than thru a "gun free zone"... Dip shit

Gun free zones are imaginary slapdick.
A mass murder will shoot no matter what.
They will inevitably kill as many as possible whether or not they are being shot at.

And when no one shoots back at them, they will kill more people. Can anyone really argue with that?

It all depends on the skill of the good guy shooters.

The Myth of the Good Guy With the Gun

That’s neither true in general nor true in this instance. The FBI tells us that active-shooter scenarios occur in all sorts of environments where guns are allowed—homes, businesses, outdoor spaces. (In fact, there was another mass shooting the same day as the Oregon massacre, leaving three dead and one severely wounded in a home in North Florida.) And Umpqua Community College itself wasn’t a gun-free zone. Oregon is one of seven states that allow guns on college campuses—the consequence of a 2011 court decision that overturned a longstanding ban. In 2012, the state board of education introduced several limitations on campus carry, but those were not widely enforced.

Read more: The Myth of the Good Guy With the Gun
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Then the success of the original shooter is totally dependent on his skill with a gun too. The FACT, though, is that the shooter keeps on killing people until he is stopped by some external force. That force might be running out of ammo or the police showing up after a lot of people are dead. Or it might be an armed victim that shoots back at him. An armed victim alters the shooters intent, spoils his plan, and distracts him from the unhindered killing that he was hoping to carry out, because he now has to deal with a threat instead of a bunch of unarmed people just lined up to be killed. The FACT is that an armed victim can stop being a victim much more easily than an unarmed one can. The FACT is that a weapon in the hand of a victim is a last line of defense for him and those around him. The FACT is that you want to take that line of defense away, and you have no good reason for doing so. You keep dodging and bringing in all sorts of peripheral thoughts, excuses, and ideas that have nothing to do with that central reality.

Bullshit! Nice rationalizing though!

 

[Vandalshandle]

I know a guy who wears a gun everywhere except places that have signs reading "No firearms allowed". Before he enters those places, he leaves his gun in his truck.

On the plus side, no one has ever held him up or taken a shot at him.

On the negative side, someone stole his gun from his truck while he was getting his driver's license renewed.

 

[hadit]

Charles Joseph Whitman was an American engineering student at the University of Texas and mass murderer who gunned down 49 people, killing 16. In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and his mother in their homes. Wikipedia

Died: August 1, 1966, Austin, TX
Spouse: Kathy Leissner (m. 1962–1966)

There were dozens of cops with rifles shooting back at him.

What is the purpose of that post? To make the point that the cops should not have been armed?

Are you really that ignorant?

The point of that post is gun toting citizens are not the panacea you clowns wish it was.
If the police (trained shooters) could not stop him , what do think the odds are the Joe six pack and his merry band of buddies could do any better. ?

As I've stated before, a weapon in the hands of a victim gives that victim a chance. You want to give that victim no chance. That's the bottom line. And, yes, we have seen that Joe six pack HAS been able to stop a shooter. Why are you ignoring that?

 

[daws101]

Charles Joseph Whitman was an American engineering student at the University of Texas and mass murderer who gunned down 49 people, killing 16. In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and his mother in their homes. Wikipedia

Died: August 1, 1966, Austin, TX
Spouse: Kathy Leissner (m. 1962–1966)

There were dozens of cops with rifles shooting back at him.

What is the purpose of that post? To make the point that the cops should not have been armed?

Are you really that ignorant?

The point of that post is gun toting citizens are not the panacea you clowns wish it was.
If the police (trained shooters) could not stop him , what do think the odds are the Joe six pack and his merry band of buddies could do any better. ?

As I've stated before, a weapon in the hands of a victim gives that victim a chance. You want to give that victim no chance. That's the bottom line. And, yes, we have seen that Joe six pack HAS been able to stop a shooter. Why are you ignoring that?

I'm not.

 

[hadit]

Charles Joseph Whitman was an American engineering student at the University of Texas and mass murderer who gunned down 49 people, killing 16. In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and his mother in their homes. Wikipedia

Died: August 1, 1966, Austin, TX
Spouse: Kathy Leissner (m. 1962–1966)

There were dozens of cops with rifles shooting back at him.

What is the purpose of that post? To make the point that the cops should not have been armed?

Are you really that ignorant?

The point of that post is gun toting citizens are not the panacea you clowns wish it was.
If the police (trained shooters) could not stop him , what do think the odds are the Joe six pack and his merry band of buddies could do any better. ?

As I've stated before, a weapon in the hands of a victim gives that victim a chance. You want to give that victim no chance. That's the bottom line. And, yes, we have seen that Joe six pack HAS been able to stop a shooter. Why are you ignoring that?

I'm not.

Then why do you continue yammering on about how it's so hard to stop a shooter? He's killing people, why do you want no one to be able to shoot back? That's the bottom line here. You don't want anyone to shoot back, and that's a problem.

 

[daws101]

Charles Joseph Whitman was an American engineering student at the University of Texas and mass murderer who gunned down 49 people, killing 16. In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and his mother in their homes. Wikipedia

Died: August 1, 1966, Austin, TX
Spouse: Kathy Leissner (m. 1962–1966)

There were dozens of cops with rifles shooting back at him.

What is the purpose of that post? To make the point that the cops should not have been armed?

Are you really that ignorant?

The point of that post is gun toting citizens are not the panacea you clowns wish it was.
If the police (trained shooters) could not stop him , what do think the odds are the Joe six pack and his merry band of buddies could do any better. ?

As I've stated before, a weapon in the hands of a victim gives that victim a chance. You want to give that victim no chance. That's the bottom line. And, yes, we have seen that Joe six pack HAS been able to stop a shooter. Why are you ignoring that?

I'm not.

Then why do you continue yammering on about how it's so hard to stop a shooter? He's killing people, why do you want no one to be able to shoot back? That's the bottom line here. You don't want anyone to shoot back, and that's a problem.

The only yammering going on is yours.
The bottom line here is over compensation.
And panic.
Your posts prove that.

 

[2aguy]

Nope...nuts and terrorists started attacking gun free zones.......and you guys want them to stay gun free for law abiding people......the ones who actually obey the law, and the ones being murdered in your gun free zones...

False there is no evidence of planned attacks on so called gun free zones because they are "gun free".
That's a lie you clowns tell youselves .

Well, cowards like mass murders always pick the easiest, path of a least resistance. It's in their very nature, no easier path for a murderer than thru a "gun free zone"... Dip shit

Gun free zones are imaginary slapdick.
A mass murder will shoot no matter what.
They will inevitably kill as many as possible whether or not they are being shot at.

And when no one shoots back at them, they will kill more people. Can anyone really argue with that?

It all depends on the skill of the good guy shooters.

The Myth of the Good Guy With the Gun

That’s neither true in general nor true in this instance. The FBI tells us that active-shooter scenarios occur in all sorts of environments where guns are allowed—homes, businesses, outdoor spaces. (In fact, there was another mass shooting the same day as the Oregon massacre, leaving three dead and one severely wounded in a home in North Florida.) And Umpqua Community College itself wasn’t a gun-free zone. Oregon is one of seven states that allow guns on college campuses—the consequence of a 2011 court decision that overturned a longstanding ban. In 2012, the state board of education introduced several limitations on campus carry, but those were not widely enforced.

Read more: The Myth of the Good Guy With the Gun
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Twit....Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year.....at least......you have seen the actual research....this number is of course from the Department of Justice...you know....where the FBI comes from....

 

[2aguy]

I know a guy who wears a gun everywhere except places that have signs reading "No firearms allowed". Before he enters those places, he leaves his gun in his truck.

On the plus side, no one has ever held him up or taken a shot at him.

On the negative side, someone stole his gun from his truck while he was getting his driver's license renewed.

Yes....gun free zones are responsible for thousands of stolen guns each year.....that means they help criminals get guns.......another reason to end gun free zones....

 

[Uncensored2008]

[
Not always not even 50% of the time.
If the shooter has the gun out and is firing or is got a bead on you .

10% is better than 0%, stupid.

Never helped you.

When was the last time you were sober?

Serious question.

 

[2aguy]

[
Not always not even 50% of the time.
If the shooter has the gun out and is firing or is got a bead on you .

10% is better than 0%, stupid.

Never helped you.

When was the last time you were sober?

Serious question.

They don't allow you to drink when you are only 9 years old.....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Charles Joseph Whitman was an American engineering student at the University of Texas and mass murderer who gunned down 49 people, killing 16. In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and his mother in their homes. Wikipedia

Died: August 1, 1966, Austin, TX
Spouse: Kathy Leissner (m. 1962–1966)

There were dozens of cops with rifles shooting back at him.

Say stupid, didn't Whitman use a bolt action .30-06?

Guess we better outlaw single shot rifles, right?

 

[2aguy]

Charles Joseph Whitman was an American engineering student at the University of Texas and mass murderer who gunned down 49 people, killing 16. In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and his mother in their homes. Wikipedia

Died: August 1, 1966, Austin, TX
Spouse: Kathy Leissner (m. 1962–1966)

There were dozens of cops with rifles shooting back at him.

Say stupid, didn't Whitman use a bolt action .30-06?

Guess we better outlaw single shot rifles, right?

Don't worry....those are on their list too.......just give them time....

 

[daws101]

[
Not always not even 50% of the time.
If the shooter has the gun out and is firing or is got a bead on you .

10% is better than 0%, stupid.

Never helped you.

When was the last time you were sober?

Serious question.

The yur on drugs or alcohol ploy again!

 

[daws101]

[
Not always not even 50% of the time.
If the shooter has the gun out and is firing or is got a bead on you .

10% is better than 0%, stupid.

Never helped you.

When was the last time you were sober?

Serious question.

They don't allow you to drink when you are only 9 years old.....

I have hemorrhoids older than you.