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If you don't believe that G-d exists, then why are you offended and afraid of mentioning His name? Why most we all bow down before you politically correct bullshit of omitting G-d? Since you don't believe in G-d, you shouldn't care whether we mention His name or not.
I'll bet you'll find that the majority of US scientists are Christians. In Israel, you'll find that the majority of scientists are Jews. In India, you'll probably find that the majority of scientists are Hindu.
Christians aren't prevented from using the rules of science to investigate our universe.
On the other hand, if some Christian wants to insist on using the rules of his/her religion to investigate the universe, then it's unlikely to pass as science for obvious reasons.
Fewer than 10% of Swedes attend church. I would guess the proportion of scientists going to church, for anything other than funerals or weddings, is close to 0%. But why should this surprise anyone? Science deals with data and reason; religion with superstition and 'faith'. They are polar opposites.
Both religious people and scientists look for the Truth but religious people are satisfied with their false gods. Scientists aren't satisfied yet so they keep searching for something they will never find.
The Truth is something that is given to us saints, not religious people or scientists.
Marx:Are you sure it wasn't in Marxist writings and literature to abolish religion, as it worship of a deity interferes with the worship of the state?
Yes, I'm sure that wasn't it. At least not entirely. You may have forgotten that our founders rebelled against a theocratic regime.
The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point dhonneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.
Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.
Lenin:
So far as the party of the socialist proletariat is concerned, religion is not a private affair. Our Party is an association of class-conscious, advanced fighters for the emancipation of the working class. Such an association cannot and must not be indifferent to lack of class-consciousness, ignorance or obscurantism in the shape of religious beliefs. We demand complete disestablishment of the Church so as to be able to combat the religious fog with purely ideo logical and solely ideological weapons, by means of our press and by word of mouth. But we founded our association, the Russian Social-Democratic Labour Party, precisely for such a struggle against every religious bamboozling of the workers. And to us the ideological struggle is not a private affair, but the affair of the whole Party, of the whole proletariat.Kinda looks like you're wrong.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Gentlemen
The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.
Why do the religious need to force their god on other people?
Based on your statement, it is obvious that one cannot force their God on another, Although, I understand that someone may give a crap enough about you to try to save you from one miserable existence.
If you don't believe that G-d exists, then why are you offended and afraid of mentioning His name? Why most we all bow down before you politically correct bullshit of omitting G-d? Since you don't believe in G-d, you shouldn't care whether we mention His name or not.
They are not afraid of God being mentioned, what atheists do not like is people's insistence that God exists being rammed down their throats.
And just how is a simple invocation "ramming" this down anyone's throat. Everyone has options. They don't need to attend the event, knowing that an invocation usually precedes said event. They can come into the event after the invocation has been said. They can politely remain quiet until the invocation has been intoned and then enjoy the event. No one is forced to pray along. Maybe they would volunteer to lead the group in whatever they prefer to initiate an event next time around.
Ramming something down another's throat is more like using the power of government like a brickbat to beat everyone you do not agree with into submission and silence.
I'll bet you'll find that the majority of US scientists are Christians. In Israel, you'll find that the majority of scientists are Jews. In India, you'll probably find that the majority of scientists are Hindu.
Christians aren't prevented from using the rules of science to investigate our universe.
On the other hand, if some Christian wants to insist on using the rules of his/her religion to investigate the universe, then it's unlikely to pass as science for obvious reasons.
Fewer than 10% of Swedes attend church. I would guess the proportion of scientists going to church, for anything other than funerals or weddings, is close to 0%. But why should this surprise anyone? Science deals with data and reason; religion with superstition and 'faith'. They are polar opposites.
Both religious people and scientists look for the Truth but religious people are satisfied with their false gods. Scientists aren't satisfied yet so they keep searching for something they will never find.
The Truth is something that is given to us saints, not religious people or scientists.
If you don't believe that G-d exists, then why are you offended and afraid of mentioning His name? Why most we all bow down before you politically correct bullshit of omitting G-d? Since you don't believe in G-d, you shouldn't care whether we mention His name or not.
What is G-d?
Is that like God?
I could care less if you mention God or G-d.
No that's like a troll trying to stir up crap. I have met many athiests and none of them were scared of saying God.
If you don't believe that G-d exists, then why are you offended and afraid of mentioning His name? Why most we all bow down before you politically correct bullshit of omitting G-d? Since you don't believe in G-d, you shouldn't care whether we mention His name or not.
What is G-d?
Is that like God?
I could care less if you mention God or G-d.
No that's like a troll trying to stir up crap. I have met many athiests and none of them were scared of saying God.
Nor are they afraid of "god".
The op wrote -
If you don't believe that G-d exists, then why are you offended and afraid of mentioning His name? Why most we all bow down before you politically correct bullshit of omitting G-d? Since you don't believe in G-d, you shouldn't care whether we mention His name or not.
Its not atheists who huddle din stark raving terror in dark dank buildings to beg on their knees for their very existence from an invisible and man-made "god".
Its not atheists who "bow down".
Believe whatever you want but keep it to yourselves (chant to each other), respect the right of all Americans to the separation of church and state (I'll choose what I want to believe in), stay out of our schools (you don't see education in churches!) and pay your own damn property taxes.
What part of that is so hard to understand? What part don't the "christians" agree with?
If you don't believe that G-d exists, then why are you offended and afraid of mentioning His name? Why most we all bow down before you politically correct bullshit of omitting G-d? Since you don't believe in G-d, you shouldn't care whether we mention His name or not.
What is G-d?
Is that like God?
I could care less if you mention God or G-d.
If you don't believe that G-d exists, then why are you offended and afraid of mentioning His name? Why most we all bow down before you politically correct bullshit of omitting G-d? Since you don't believe in G-d, you shouldn't care whether we mention His name or not.
What is G-d?
Is that like God?
I prefer GOD...
I could care less if you mention God or G-d.
Which is to say that you do care, but that you could care less...
nice dodge!really? Why the Constitution Demands Government-Paid Priests, Imams, Pastors, and Rabbis -I was not aware that the persons who deliver an invocation at any of sundry events were paid, particularly using public money.
I don't see the problem. It isn't like the military restricts chaplains to only one specific relision. They can be any denomination or religious persuasion and they usually serve all service members, regardless of those soldiers/airmen/sailors religious preferences. Chaplains provide many other services besides administering to a specific faith.
the crusades were only a part the christian blood bath that lasted hundreds of years.again that's bullshit!Well, must be true because you said it.
Nevermind that atheistic ideologies have caused more death and suffering in the past 100 years than any religion has in the history of mankind.
Saturday, July 6, 2013
What is Christianity? The bloodiest religion in history
Did more people die in the Crusades or in the godless Communist takoevers over the Russia (and the USSR), China, and others like Cuba (Castro), Pol Pot, and many many more.
then you might want to learn to read ..."Plus, no result of science can possibly indicate whether or not there is a God"-WillReadmoreI'm always curious when people call BS and then parrot what I said.bullshit!OK - you can have that point. I don't see it as worth looking into.
Even if there are very few Christians in science it wouldn't mean that science does anything to exclude those who have that religious belief.
All you have to do to be a scientist is to exclusively follow the rules of science when claiming to be doing science. And, nothing in these rules of science refers to religion in any way. Plus, no result of science can possibly indicate whether or not there is a God.
Science and religion are just two separate realms as a couple popes have put it.
there is no evidence either way proving or disproving the existence of god.
so your statement is a false assumption based on false premise.
But, it's the internets...
thanks you for the fine example of forcing your belief on another..Why do the religious need to force their god on other people?
Based on your statement, it is obvious that one cannot force their God on another, Although, I understand that someone may give a crap enough about you to try to save you from one miserable existence.
false comparison....you have any idea what % of mothers were christian?Did more people die in the Crusades or in the godless Communist takoevers over the Russia (and the USSR), China, and others like Cuba (Castro), Pol Pot, and many many more.
That is hard to say..might have to go with non religious but its a silly point. People kill in the name of god and noy in the name of god.
People kill in the name of whatever in order to Steal from the conquered.
For instance, White Progressives have murdered over 20,000,000 black babies since Roe V Wade, while plundering their communities into total desolation and poverty --- Chicago and Detroit for example...
Did more people die in the Crusades or in the godless Communist takoevers over the Russia (and the USSR), China, and others like Cuba (Castro), Pol Pot, and many many more.
That is hard to say..might have to go with non religious but its a silly point. People kill in the name of god and noy in the name of god.
People kill in the name of whatever in order to Steal from the conquered.
For instance, White Progressives have murdered over 20,000,000 black babies since Roe V Wade, while plundering their communities into total desolation and poverty --- Chicago and Detroit for example...
Yes, science can not indicate whether or not there is a god.then you might want to learn to read ..."Plus, no result of science can possibly indicate whether or not there is a God"-WillReadmoreI'm always curious when people call BS and then parrot what I said.bullshit!
there is no evidence either way proving or disproving the existence of god.
so your statement is a false assumption based on false premise.
But, it's the internets...
is the above quote yours?
it is false...
btw there is only one internet
It's a matter of philosophy, I suppose, but there is certainly nothing going on today to indicate that science might start answering more questions than it creates.Rubbish. Scientists have found, and are finding, the truth - the reality - of all sorts of things. It is not inconceivable that in the distant future it will be possible to know everything.
