Why Do Americans Love to Blame Teachers So Much?

[Roadrunner]

Healthcare has its critics, but few of them are calling for doctors to be replaced. Education is different—and it has been throughout U.S. history.

People have a lot more experience with teachers than with doctors. For 12 years of our lives we've spent all day, 180 days a year, in a teacher's company. A doctor we see only once a year or so for a few minutes. And what a doctor does is naturally more mysterious than what a teacher does.

Discussions of education in the U.S. have repeatedly been framed in terms of moral panics. A moral panic occurs when "policymakers and the media focus on a single class of people…as emblems of a large, complex social problem." That single class of people is then systematically demonized, as politicians and pundits present "worst of the worst" cases as emblematic of the whole.
In fact, I think you could argue that moral panics do more than demonize a group of people.

Or maybe because most Americans either sweat their lives away at a dull-blue collar job, or enter into a corporate jungle where whatever they do is never enough, and advancement is usually due to the ability to suck up to authority and play office politics.

If you don't blame the educators of your children, there's only one other group potentially culpable: the parents.

Educators can't do much with kids that enter pre-K at 4 three years behind their peers in everything but cursing and porno.

 

[Roadrunner]

Healthcare has its critics, but few of them are calling for doctors to be replaced. Education is different—and it has been throughout U.S. history.

People have a lot more experience with teachers than with doctors. For 12 years of our lives we've spent all day, 180 days a year, in a teacher's company. A doctor we see only once a year or so for a few minutes. And what a doctor does is naturally more mysterious than what a teacher does.

Discussions of education in the U.S. have repeatedly been framed in terms of moral panics. A moral panic occurs when "policymakers and the media focus on a single class of people…as emblems of a large, complex social problem." That single class of people is then systematically demonized, as politicians and pundits present "worst of the worst" cases as emblematic of the whole.
In fact, I think you could argue that moral panics do more than demonize a group of people.

Or maybe because most Americans either sweat their lives away at a dull-blue collar job, or enter into a corporate jungle where whatever they do is never enough, and advancement is usually due to the ability to suck up to authority and play office politics.

The fact that teachers are owned by the Democratic Party and the worst of them can't be fired.

AND

1. Dealing with the real problem, ie illegitimacy is politically difficult.

2. The public Education system is doing a crappy job. They are more concerned with diversity and focusing on the poor performers than fostering excellence.

3. The University system is doing a crappy job. They are turning out a good product, but with out of control pricing and with a unwanted Free Gift of political indoctrination.

What about less incentive to learn? Students are aware of the minimal opportunities once they leave school. Shouldn't we blame both the educational systems and the students?

Public ed deals with what it gets.

You can't make rocket scientists out of short bus material.

THere are plenty of potential "rocket scientists" in public school.

They are just being ignored while the system focuses on getting those with the least potential to meet the standards.

It goes back even further than NO CHILD ALLOWED AHEAD; we just called it "dumbing down".

 

[rightwinger]

Healthcare has its critics, but few of them are calling for doctors to be replaced. Education is different—and it has been throughout U.S. history.

People have a lot more experience with teachers than with doctors. For 12 years of our lives we've spent all day, 180 days a year, in a teacher's company. A doctor we see only once a year or so for a few minutes. And what a doctor does is naturally more mysterious than what a teacher does.

Discussions of education in the U.S. have repeatedly been framed in terms of moral panics. A moral panic occurs when "policymakers and the media focus on a single class of people…as emblems of a large, complex social problem." That single class of people is then systematically demonized, as politicians and pundits present "worst of the worst" cases as emblematic of the whole.
In fact, I think you could argue that moral panics do more than demonize a group of people.

Or maybe because most Americans either sweat their lives away at a dull-blue collar job, or enter into a corporate jungle where whatever they do is never enough, and advancement is usually due to the ability to suck up to authority and play office politics.

The fact that teachers are owned by the Democratic Party and the worst of them can't be fired.

AND

1. Dealing with the real problem, ie illegitimacy is politically difficult.

2. The public Education system is doing a crappy job. They are more concerned with diversity and focusing on the poor performers than fostering excellence.

3. The University system is doing a crappy job. They are turning out a good product, but with out of control pricing and with a unwanted Free Gift of political indoctrination.

It's worse than I thought or you could be a tad one sided.... as well as entertaining...

I have a daughter in a moderately good public school.

I've had a teacher tell me that my daughter is not their focus.

She did this to reassure me that my daughter was doing well.

Because they are focused on the kids who are not doing well.

I told this tale to a friend of mine who is a teacher. She related similar tales from her own children's education.

Bright well behaved kids are not the priority.

Bright students receive quite a bit of attention and the best teachers and opportunities
Students with learning disabilities also receive a lot of one on one attention

It is the C student who usually falls through the cracks

 

[rightwinger]

Healthcare has its critics, but few of them are calling for doctors to be replaced. Education is different—and it has been throughout U.S. history.

People have a lot more experience with teachers than with doctors. For 12 years of our lives we've spent all day, 180 days a year, in a teacher's company. A doctor we see only once a year or so for a few minutes. And what a doctor does is naturally more mysterious than what a teacher does.

Discussions of education in the U.S. have repeatedly been framed in terms of moral panics. A moral panic occurs when "policymakers and the media focus on a single class of people…as emblems of a large, complex social problem." That single class of people is then systematically demonized, as politicians and pundits present "worst of the worst" cases as emblematic of the whole.
In fact, I think you could argue that moral panics do more than demonize a group of people.

Or maybe because most Americans either sweat their lives away at a dull-blue collar job, or enter into a corporate jungle where whatever they do is never enough, and advancement is usually due to the ability to suck up to authority and play office politics.

If you don't blame the educators of your children, there's only one other group potentially culpable: the parents.

Agree, good parents can make up for poor educators

 

[Roadrunner]

Healthcare has its critics, but few of them are calling for doctors to be replaced. Education is different—and it has been throughout U.S. history.

People have a lot more experience with teachers than with doctors. For 12 years of our lives we've spent all day, 180 days a year, in a teacher's company. A doctor we see only once a year or so for a few minutes. And what a doctor does is naturally more mysterious than what a teacher does.

Discussions of education in the U.S. have repeatedly been framed in terms of moral panics. A moral panic occurs when "policymakers and the media focus on a single class of people…as emblems of a large, complex social problem." That single class of people is then systematically demonized, as politicians and pundits present "worst of the worst" cases as emblematic of the whole.
In fact, I think you could argue that moral panics do more than demonize a group of people.

Or maybe because most Americans either sweat their lives away at a dull-blue collar job, or enter into a corporate jungle where whatever they do is never enough, and advancement is usually due to the ability to suck up to authority and play office politics.

If you don't blame the educators of your children, there's only one other group potentially culpable: the parents.

Agree, good parents can make up for poor educators

Sadly, good educators cannot make up for bad parents.

 

[rightwinger]

Our educational system has moved to how many students can you get over the bar. Teach to the bar and nothing more
Reward teachers who get the most over the bar

 

[Correll]

Healthcare has its critics, but few of them are calling for doctors to be replaced. Education is different—and it has been throughout U.S. history.

People have a lot more experience with teachers than with doctors. For 12 years of our lives we've spent all day, 180 days a year, in a teacher's company. A doctor we see only once a year or so for a few minutes. And what a doctor does is naturally more mysterious than what a teacher does.

Discussions of education in the U.S. have repeatedly been framed in terms of moral panics. A moral panic occurs when "policymakers and the media focus on a single class of people…as emblems of a large, complex social problem." That single class of people is then systematically demonized, as politicians and pundits present "worst of the worst" cases as emblematic of the whole.
In fact, I think you could argue that moral panics do more than demonize a group of people.

Or maybe because most Americans either sweat their lives away at a dull-blue collar job, or enter into a corporate jungle where whatever they do is never enough, and advancement is usually due to the ability to suck up to authority and play office politics.

The fact that teachers are owned by the Democratic Party and the worst of them can't be fired.

AND

1. Dealing with the real problem, ie illegitimacy is politically difficult.

2. The public Education system is doing a crappy job. They are more concerned with diversity and focusing on the poor performers than fostering excellence.

3. The University system is doing a crappy job. They are turning out a good product, but with out of control pricing and with a unwanted Free Gift of political indoctrination.

It's worse than I thought or you could be a tad one sided.... as well as entertaining...

I have a daughter in a moderately good public school.

I've had a teacher tell me that my daughter is not their focus.

She did this to reassure me that my daughter was doing well.

Because they are focused on the kids who are not doing well.

I told this tale to a friend of mine who is a teacher. She related similar tales from her own children's education.

Bright well behaved kids are not the priority.

I taught 25 years.

I hardly remember the ones that "acted right".

Well, that makes sense. They weren't problems, and you never managed to get past the "problems" to encourage those with "Rocket Science" potential that were quietly working.

And if you did, it didn't happen often enough to be significant in your memory.

 

[Unkotare]

Anyone ever tell you to teach to some

Our educational system has moved to how many students can you get over the bar. Teach to the bar and nothing more
Reward teachers who get the most over the bar

Anyone ever tell you to teach to some
"bar" and no higher?

 

[rightwinger]

Anyone ever tell you to teach to some

Our educational system has moved to how many students can you get over the bar. Teach to the bar and nothing more
Reward teachers who get the most over the bar

Anyone ever tell you to teach to some
"bar" and no higher?

No soup for you!

If schools are rated on standardized tests, then teachers are rewarded for standardized tests

 

[Correll]

Anyone ever tell you to teach to some

Our educational system has moved to how many students can you get over the bar. Teach to the bar and nothing more
Reward teachers who get the most over the bar

Anyone ever tell you to teach to some
"bar" and no higher?

If you judge and reward teachers based on how many they get to the bar, then yes, that is the message.

 

[OKTexas]

Healthcare has its critics, but few of them are calling for doctors to be replaced. Education is different—and it has been throughout U.S. history.

People have a lot more experience with teachers than with doctors. For 12 years of our lives we've spent all day, 180 days a year, in a teacher's company. A doctor we see only once a year or so for a few minutes. And what a doctor does is naturally more mysterious than what a teacher does.

Discussions of education in the U.S. have repeatedly been framed in terms of moral panics. A moral panic occurs when "policymakers and the media focus on a single class of people…as emblems of a large, complex social problem." That single class of people is then systematically demonized, as politicians and pundits present "worst of the worst" cases as emblematic of the whole.
In fact, I think you could argue that moral panics do more than demonize a group of people.

Or maybe because most Americans either sweat their lives away at a dull-blue collar job, or enter into a corporate jungle where whatever they do is never enough, and advancement is usually due to the ability to suck up to authority and play office politics.

The fact that teachers are owned by the Democratic Party and the worst of them can't be fired.

AND

1. Dealing with the real problem, ie illegitimacy is politically difficult.

2. The public Education system is doing a crappy job. They are more concerned with diversity and focusing on the poor performers than fostering excellence.

3. The University system is doing a crappy job. They are turning out a good product, but with out of control pricing and with a unwanted Free Gift of political indoctrination.

What about less incentive to learn? Students are aware of the minimal opportunities once they leave school. Shouldn't we blame both the educational systems and the students?

Actually the parents bear more responsibility than either, if they are involved and care about education they will hold both the educators and the students feet to the fire.

 

[Correll]

Healthcare has its critics, but few of them are calling for doctors to be replaced. Education is different—and it has been throughout U.S. history.

People have a lot more experience with teachers than with doctors. For 12 years of our lives we've spent all day, 180 days a year, in a teacher's company. A doctor we see only once a year or so for a few minutes. And what a doctor does is naturally more mysterious than what a teacher does.

Discussions of education in the U.S. have repeatedly been framed in terms of moral panics. A moral panic occurs when "policymakers and the media focus on a single class of people…as emblems of a large, complex social problem." That single class of people is then systematically demonized, as politicians and pundits present "worst of the worst" cases as emblematic of the whole.
In fact, I think you could argue that moral panics do more than demonize a group of people.

Or maybe because most Americans either sweat their lives away at a dull-blue collar job, or enter into a corporate jungle where whatever they do is never enough, and advancement is usually due to the ability to suck up to authority and play office politics.

The fact that teachers are owned by the Democratic Party and the worst of them can't be fired.

AND

1. Dealing with the real problem, ie illegitimacy is politically difficult.

2. The public Education system is doing a crappy job. They are more concerned with diversity and focusing on the poor performers than fostering excellence.

3. The University system is doing a crappy job. They are turning out a good product, but with out of control pricing and with a unwanted Free Gift of political indoctrination.

What about less incentive to learn? Students are aware of the minimal opportunities once they leave school. Shouldn't we blame both the educational systems and the students?

Actually the parents bear more responsibility than either, if they are involved and care about education they will hold both the educators and the students feet to the fire.

Parents have limited ability to control education policy.

 

[OKTexas]

Healthcare has its critics, but few of them are calling for doctors to be replaced. Education is different—and it has been throughout U.S. history.

People have a lot more experience with teachers than with doctors. For 12 years of our lives we've spent all day, 180 days a year, in a teacher's company. A doctor we see only once a year or so for a few minutes. And what a doctor does is naturally more mysterious than what a teacher does.

Discussions of education in the U.S. have repeatedly been framed in terms of moral panics. A moral panic occurs when "policymakers and the media focus on a single class of people…as emblems of a large, complex social problem." That single class of people is then systematically demonized, as politicians and pundits present "worst of the worst" cases as emblematic of the whole.
In fact, I think you could argue that moral panics do more than demonize a group of people.

Or maybe because most Americans either sweat their lives away at a dull-blue collar job, or enter into a corporate jungle where whatever they do is never enough, and advancement is usually due to the ability to suck up to authority and play office politics.

The fact that teachers are owned by the Democratic Party and the worst of them can't be fired.

AND

1. Dealing with the real problem, ie illegitimacy is politically difficult.

2. The public Education system is doing a crappy job. They are more concerned with diversity and focusing on the poor performers than fostering excellence.

3. The University system is doing a crappy job. They are turning out a good product, but with out of control pricing and with a unwanted Free Gift of political indoctrination.

What about less incentive to learn? Students are aware of the minimal opportunities once they leave school. Shouldn't we blame both the educational systems and the students?

Actually the parents bear more responsibility than either, if they are involved and care about education they will hold both the educators and the students feet to the fire.

Parents have limited ability to control education policy.

Wrong, parents have every ability to control everything, ever heard of a ballot?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Why Do Americans Love to Blame Teachers So Much?

Just look at the political boards and dumb ass liberal posters

 

[Correll]

The fact that teachers are owned by the Democratic Party and the worst of them can't be fired.

AND

1. Dealing with the real problem, ie illegitimacy is politically difficult.

2. The public Education system is doing a crappy job. They are more concerned with diversity and focusing on the poor performers than fostering excellence.

3. The University system is doing a crappy job. They are turning out a good product, but with out of control pricing and with a unwanted Free Gift of political indoctrination.

What about less incentive to learn? Students are aware of the minimal opportunities once they leave school. Shouldn't we blame both the educational systems and the students?

Actually the parents bear more responsibility than either, if they are involved and care about education they will hold both the educators and the students feet to the fire.

Parents have limited ability to control education policy.

Wrong, parents have every ability to control everything, ever heard of a ballot?

My city is owned by the Democratic Party, as are many. Nothing will change this.

If the dem candidate was caught on film eating a living baby, he would still win.

Parents who do not have access to a decent school can move or send their children to a private school.

 

[Unkotare]

Anyone ever tell you to teach to some

Our educational system has moved to how many students can you get over the bar. Teach to the bar and nothing more
Reward teachers who get the most over the bar

Anyone ever tell you to teach to some
"bar" and no higher?

If you judge and reward teachers based on how many they get to the bar, then yes, that is the message.

You didn't really answer the question

 

[OKTexas]

AND

1. Dealing with the real problem, ie illegitimacy is politically difficult.

2. The public Education system is doing a crappy job. They are more concerned with diversity and focusing on the poor performers than fostering excellence.

3. The University system is doing a crappy job. They are turning out a good product, but with out of control pricing and with a unwanted Free Gift of political indoctrination.

What about less incentive to learn? Students are aware of the minimal opportunities once they leave school. Shouldn't we blame both the educational systems and the students?

Actually the parents bear more responsibility than either, if they are involved and care about education they will hold both the educators and the students feet to the fire.

Parents have limited ability to control education policy.

Wrong, parents have every ability to control everything, ever heard of a ballot?

My city is owned by the Democratic Party, as are many. Nothing will change this.

If the dem candidate was caught on film eating a living baby, he would still win.

Parents who do not have access to a decent school can move or send their children to a private school.

Sounds like you got your work cut out for ya.

 

[BluesLegend]

The teaching profession has been corrupted by the Democratic party and thug unions that's why. The alliance would make a hell of a RICO case in the private sector.

Doctors on the other hand are one of the Democrats favorite targets for demonization. For example that asshole Obama suggesting doctors perform major surgeries patients don't need just to make money. Obama suggesting a senior just load up on narcotics vs having a surgery late in life. I hope that asshole gets to experience degenerative joint pain at some point in his life, $100 bucks says he will have the surgery.

Doctors are also a favorite Democratic party piggy bank to raid. I know doctors who after treating a patient throw the claims in the trash because it cost them more to submit the claim for payment than the government reimburses.

 

[Dragonlady]

Teaching Creationism instead of science, schools where children have to share textbooks, parents being more concerned with students being taught "American exceptionism" or conservative values, than math and science, paying teachers such low wages that only those who can't get a job elsewhere would be interested in the job, these could be part of the reason why American schools are falling further and further behind the rest of the world.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Healthcare has its critics, but few of them are calling for doctors to be replaced. Education is different—and it has been throughout U.S. history.

People have a lot more experience with teachers than with doctors. For 12 years of our lives we've spent all day, 180 days a year, in a teacher's company. A doctor we see only once a year or so for a few minutes. And what a doctor does is naturally more mysterious than what a teacher does.

Discussions of education in the U.S. have repeatedly been framed in terms of moral panics. A moral panic occurs when "policymakers and the media focus on a single class of people…as emblems of a large, complex social problem." That single class of people is then systematically demonized, as politicians and pundits present "worst of the worst" cases as emblematic of the whole.
In fact, I think you could argue that moral panics do more than demonize a group of people.

Or maybe because most Americans either sweat their lives away at a dull-blue collar job, or enter into a corporate jungle where whatever they do is never enough, and advancement is usually due to the ability to suck up to authority and play office politics.

Since teaching is a government thing we all have a hand in it but, some at, "doctoring" is still a private industry so we think of it as a one to one level.