Why do democrats hate poor black people and want them permanently on welfare?

[jc456]

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

dudette, are you really this naive or are you just playing dumb?

So the argument is about working welfare. WELFARE. what part of that word confuses you?

You are welcome to answer the question.

I did.
you just can't make this shit up. hahahaahahahahaha....

So who pays the workers and how much?

welfare. you didn't see that all caps word I put in the last response? here, can you fking even read?

WELFARE!!!!!

 

[Redfish]

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

dudette, are you really this naive or are you just playing dumb?

So the argument is about working welfare. WELFARE. what part of that word confuses you?

You are welcome to answer the question.

I did.
you just can't make this shit up. hahahaahahahahaha....

So who pays the workers and how much?

see post #839

 

[jc456]

This has been an abject failure every time it's been tried. First off, how do you justify paying lower wages to the welfare recipients than they would earn with minimum wages? You can't so right away, there is the human rights problem of slave labour.

There has to be an entire infrastructure set up to find the jobs, to match the welfare recipients to the jobs, to arrange placements with the employers, and to arrange the bus transportation. There has to be due consideration as to whether the individuals can physically perform the work required. Not everyone is physically able to do hard manual labour. Welfare recipients could sue for discrimination if they are assigned work they are physically unsuited to perform.

There also has to be someone at the employers' end who tracks which workers show up and what hours they work, and supervise them to ensure they are working. As for the employers, they aren't interesting in being sent a bunch of city people who have no idea of how to pick crops, or who do it too slowly. The profit margins these farmers work under are so small that they can ill afford a bunch of to hire a bunch of lazy, fat city people who have no idea of what they're doing.

The vast majority of people receiving Section 8 housing, food stamps, MedicAid, or other forms of federal assistance, have full time jobs, or more than one part time job, for which they are paid very low wages. These people wouldn't be available for your slave pool.

As someone who worked in the tobacco fields in the summer when I was young, I am well aware that farm labour really isn't suitable for people who aren't young, strong and very healthy.

This whole program was tried where I lived a few years ago - "WorkFare". Everyone said it was high time. Members of our church thought this would be a good way to get some needed work done on our Church building, while teaching welfare bums some needed lessons. What we discovered was that we had to hire someone to supervise the workers. This person had to be on site the whole time. By the time we paid for our "workers" and the supervisor, it would be cheaper for us to hire small local firms to do the work, and we'd get a higher quality of work if we did.

The government announced this program with great fanfare, but then quietly cancelled it a year later. There were few takers for the service. Many organizations considered it "slavery" and refused to use it. Others, like our church, discovered that the required supervision made the program too expensive to use, and that the quality of the work was highly suspect.

Most communities have difficulty coming up with sufficient work for those sentenced to "community service", much less for those receiving welfare.

First off, how do you justify paying lower wages to the welfare recipients than they would earn with minimum wages?

It's easy, you say "If you don't work the required numbers of hours, you get no benefits"

You can't so right away, there is the human rights problem of slave labour.

Only if you feel someone who is free to quit at any time, is a slave.
The rest of us will laugh at your error.

Employment is at-will. EDD should be required to show for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation.

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

BTW, it isn't UE it is WELFARE. UE is for people who actually had a job and lost it. They lose that and move to official Welfare if they feel they don't want to work anymore.

 

[Brain357]

This has been an abject failure every time it's been tried. First off, how do you justify paying lower wages to the welfare recipients than they would earn with minimum wages? You can't so right away, there is the human rights problem of slave labour.

There has to be an entire infrastructure set up to find the jobs, to match the welfare recipients to the jobs, to arrange placements with the employers, and to arrange the bus transportation. There has to be due consideration as to whether the individuals can physically perform the work required. Not everyone is physically able to do hard manual labour. Welfare recipients could sue for discrimination if they are assigned work they are physically unsuited to perform.

There also has to be someone at the employers' end who tracks which workers show up and what hours they work, and supervise them to ensure they are working. As for the employers, they aren't interesting in being sent a bunch of city people who have no idea of how to pick crops, or who do it too slowly. The profit margins these farmers work under are so small that they can ill afford a bunch of to hire a bunch of lazy, fat city people who have no idea of what they're doing.

The vast majority of people receiving Section 8 housing, food stamps, MedicAid, or other forms of federal assistance, have full time jobs, or more than one part time job, for which they are paid very low wages. These people wouldn't be available for your slave pool.

As someone who worked in the tobacco fields in the summer when I was young, I am well aware that farm labour really isn't suitable for people who aren't young, strong and very healthy.

This whole program was tried where I lived a few years ago - "WorkFare". Everyone said it was high time. Members of our church thought this would be a good way to get some needed work done on our Church building, while teaching welfare bums some needed lessons. What we discovered was that we had to hire someone to supervise the workers. This person had to be on site the whole time. By the time we paid for our "workers" and the supervisor, it would be cheaper for us to hire small local firms to do the work, and we'd get a higher quality of work if we did.

The government announced this program with great fanfare, but then quietly cancelled it a year later. There were few takers for the service. Many organizations considered it "slavery" and refused to use it. Others, like our church, discovered that the required supervision made the program too expensive to use, and that the quality of the work was highly suspect.

Most communities have difficulty coming up with sufficient work for those sentenced to "community service", much less for those receiving welfare.

First off, how do you justify paying lower wages to the welfare recipients than they would earn with minimum wages?

It's easy, you say "If you don't work the required numbers of hours, you get no benefits"

You can't so right away, there is the human rights problem of slave labour.

Only if you feel someone who is free to quit at any time, is a slave.
The rest of us will laugh at your error.

Employment is at-will. EDD should be required to show for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation.

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

Isn't unemployment based on what you made while working? So you force the farmer to greatly over pay for some workers? Others will make less than min wage? Meanwhile they are paying for workers that aren't farmers and don't want to be there? So not very productive.

 

[Dragonlady]

This has been an abject failure every time it's been tried. First off, how do you justify paying lower wages to the welfare recipients than they would earn with minimum wages? You can't so right away, there is the human rights problem of slave labour.

There has to be an entire infrastructure set up to find the jobs, to match the welfare recipients to the jobs, to arrange placements with the employers, and to arrange the bus transportation. There has to be due consideration as to whether the individuals can physically perform the work required. Not everyone is physically able to do hard manual labour. Welfare recipients could sue for discrimination if they are assigned work they are physically unsuited to perform.

There also has to be someone at the employers' end who tracks which workers show up and what hours they work, and supervise them to ensure they are working. As for the employers, they aren't interesting in being sent a bunch of city people who have no idea of how to pick crops, or who do it too slowly. The profit margins these farmers work under are so small that they can ill afford a bunch of to hire a bunch of lazy, fat city people who have no idea of what they're doing.

The vast majority of people receiving Section 8 housing, food stamps, MedicAid, or other forms of federal assistance, have full time jobs, or more than one part time job, for which they are paid very low wages. These people wouldn't be available for your slave pool.

As someone who worked in the tobacco fields in the summer when I was young, I am well aware that farm labour really isn't suitable for people who aren't young, strong and very healthy.

This whole program was tried where I lived a few years ago - "WorkFare". Everyone said it was high time. Members of our church thought this would be a good way to get some needed work done on our Church building, while teaching welfare bums some needed lessons. What we discovered was that we had to hire someone to supervise the workers. This person had to be on site the whole time. By the time we paid for our "workers" and the supervisor, it would be cheaper for us to hire small local firms to do the work, and we'd get a higher quality of work if we did.

The government announced this program with great fanfare, but then quietly cancelled it a year later. There were few takers for the service. Many organizations considered it "slavery" and refused to use it. Others, like our church, discovered that the required supervision made the program too expensive to use, and that the quality of the work was highly suspect.

Most communities have difficulty coming up with sufficient work for those sentenced to "community service", much less for those receiving welfare.

First off, how do you justify paying lower wages to the welfare recipients than they would earn with minimum wages?

It's easy, you say "If you don't work the required numbers of hours, you get no benefits"

You can't so right away, there is the human rights problem of slave labour.

Only if you feel someone who is free to quit at any time, is a slave.
The rest of us will laugh at your error.

Employment is at-will. EDD should be required to show for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation.

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

It is NOT a net zero for the taxpayers. They have to pay for the buses and the bus drivers. They have to pay someone to recruit employers, and they have to pay someone to supervise the workers. They have to have an enforcement procedure for those who don't show up. All of this costs money.

It is also illegal to pay people less than the minimum wage for the job being done. Unless UE pay that minimum wage, employers are getting slave labour, and it may surprise you to learn, that many people with morals and principles will NOT exploit the poor in this way.

The workfare program here failed because the government could not find enough employers to make the program viable, in part because it was EXPENSIVE to use these people as workers, because of the reporting and supervision requirements, and the quality of work was really low.

 

[Brain357]

First off, how do you justify paying lower wages to the welfare recipients than they would earn with minimum wages?

It's easy, you say "If you don't work the required numbers of hours, you get no benefits"

You can't so right away, there is the human rights problem of slave labour.

Only if you feel someone who is free to quit at any time, is a slave.
The rest of us will laugh at your error.

Employment is at-will. EDD should be required to show for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation.

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

BTW, it isn't UE it is WELFARE. UE is for people who actually had a job and lost it. They lose that and move to official Welfare if they feel they don't want to work anymore.

Unemployment is a welfare program. Be more specific.

 

[jc456]

First off, how do you justify paying lower wages to the welfare recipients than they would earn with minimum wages?

It's easy, you say "If you don't work the required numbers of hours, you get no benefits"

You can't so right away, there is the human rights problem of slave labour.

Only if you feel someone who is free to quit at any time, is a slave.
The rest of us will laugh at your error.

Employment is at-will. EDD should be required to show for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation.

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

It is NOT a net zero for the taxpayers. They have to pay for the buses and the bus drivers. They have to pay someone to recruit employers, and they have to pay someone to supervise the workers. They have to have an enforcement procedure for those who don't show up. All of this costs money.

It is also illegal to pay people less than the minimum wage for the job being done. Unless UE pay that minimum wage, employers are getting slave labour, and it may surprise you to learn, that many people with morals and principles will NOT exploit the poor in this way.

 

[jc456]

Employment is at-will. EDD should be required to show for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation.

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

BTW, it isn't UE it is WELFARE. UE is for people who actually had a job and lost it. They lose that and move to official Welfare if they feel they don't want to work anymore.

Unemployment is a welfare program. Be more specific.

no it isn't. It is an entitlement program. Fking welfare is welfare. UE is for individuals between jobs. it actually stops. I bet you didn't know that since you so stupidly responded with that last message.

 

[jc456]

First off, how do you justify paying lower wages to the welfare recipients than they would earn with minimum wages?

It's easy, you say "If you don't work the required numbers of hours, you get no benefits"

You can't so right away, there is the human rights problem of slave labour.

Only if you feel someone who is free to quit at any time, is a slave.
The rest of us will laugh at your error.

Employment is at-will. EDD should be required to show for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation.

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

Isn't unemployment based on what you made while working? So you force the farmer to greatly over pay for some workers? Others will make less than min wage? Meanwhile they are paying for workers that aren't farmers and don't want to be there? So not very productive.

girlie, you're never gonna understand. I have a brick ten feet from me and it knows more than you.

 

[Richard-H]

Actually forcing wages up does not destroy the economy. It causing economic growth.

By doing so, FDR was able to extend the Great Depression by SEVEN YEARS. How is that a good thing for America?

FDR understood the depression was not about the banks but about people suffering.

Amazing how the greatest increase in worker's wages occurred between 1950 & 1980 along with the highest taxes on the wealthy, yet those were the years of the best economic growth in American history.

Yet, wingnuts still insist that high taxes on the wealthy combined and/or increased wages cause economic downturns.

Reality never phases them!

Amazing how the greatest increase in worker's wages occurred between 1950 & 1980 along with the highest taxes on the wealthy

Explain why you feel those 2 facts are related.
Did the increase in wages cause the high taxes on the rich?
Did the high taxes cause the increase in wages?

Or did they just happen to occur at the same time?

No and No. High taxes were cause by government tax policies. High wages were caused by minimum wage laws. successful unions and government support of unions. What was common between them was liberal government policies.

The result was the best economic growth ever.

 

[Brain357]

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

BTW, it isn't UE it is WELFARE. UE is for people who actually had a job and lost it. They lose that and move to official Welfare if they feel they don't want to work anymore.

Unemployment is a welfare program. Be more specific.

no it isn't. It is an entitlement program. Fking welfare is welfare. UE is for individuals between jobs. it actually stops. I bet you didn't know that since you so stupidly responded with that last message.

Again what welfare program? You have a lot of trouble being specific.

 

[jc456]

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

BTW, it isn't UE it is WELFARE. UE is for people who actually had a job and lost it. They lose that and move to official Welfare if they feel they don't want to work anymore.

Unemployment is a welfare program. Be more specific.

no it isn't. It is an entitlement program. Fking welfare is welfare. UE is for individuals between jobs. it actually stops. I bet you didn't know that since you so stupidly responded with that last message.

Again what welfare program? You have a lot of trouble being specific.

Welfare Programs Overview

"Welfare programs are state regulated programs for those who live under the minimum accepted level means as determined by each state government. Welfare benefits can fall under multiple different program umbrellas, all of which require certain elements of eligibility to acquire and maintain payments. These programs are cash assistance (TANF), the child support program, child care, energy or utility assistance, food assistance, medical assistance, and vocational rehabilitation services."

 

[Redfish]

First off, how do you justify paying lower wages to the welfare recipients than they would earn with minimum wages?

It's easy, you say "If you don't work the required numbers of hours, you get no benefits"

You can't so right away, there is the human rights problem of slave labour.

Only if you feel someone who is free to quit at any time, is a slave.
The rest of us will laugh at your error.

Employment is at-will. EDD should be required to show for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation.

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

It is NOT a net zero for the taxpayers. They have to pay for the buses and the bus drivers. They have to pay someone to recruit employers, and they have to pay someone to supervise the workers. They have to have an enforcement procedure for those who don't show up. All of this costs money.

It is also illegal to pay people less than the minimum wage for the job being done. Unless UE pay that minimum wage, employers are getting slave labour, and it may surprise you to learn, that many people with morals and principles will NOT exploit the poor in this way.

try to pay attention, moron. The buses are paid for by the farmers. The state provides them and the farmers reimburse the state. supervision is provided by the farmers, just like with any other employees. If a UE recipient doesn't show up, he doesn't get paid for that week. No extra employees needed to enforce that.

The UE rate is what it is. It is set by the state. Minimum wage laws do not apply to UE payments.,

 

[Brain357]

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

BTW, it isn't UE it is WELFARE. UE is for people who actually had a job and lost it. They lose that and move to official Welfare if they feel they don't want to work anymore.

Unemployment is a welfare program. Be more specific.

no it isn't. It is an entitlement program. Fking welfare is welfare. UE is for individuals between jobs. it actually stops. I bet you didn't know that since you so stupidly responded with that last message.

Again what welfare program? You have a lot of trouble being specific.

Welfare Programs Overview

"Welfare programs are state regulated programs for those who live under the minimum accepted level means as determined by each state government. Welfare benefits can fall under multiple different program umbrellas, all of which require certain elements of eligibility to acquire and maintain payments. These programs are cash assistance (TANF), the child support program, child care, energy or utility assistance, food assistance, medical assistance, and vocational rehabilitation services."

Aren't these people mostly employed, but low income or disabled/elderly?

 

[jc456]

Actually forcing wages up does not destroy the economy. It causing economic growth.

By doing so, FDR was able to extend the Great Depression by SEVEN YEARS. How is that a good thing for America?

FDR understood the depression was not about the banks but about people suffering.

Amazing how the greatest increase in worker's wages occurred between 1950 & 1980 along with the highest taxes on the wealthy, yet those were the years of the best economic growth in American history.

Yet, wingnuts still insist that high taxes on the wealthy combined and/or increased wages cause economic downturns.

Reality never phases them!

Amazing how the greatest increase in worker's wages occurred between 1950 & 1980 along with the highest taxes on the wealthy

Explain why you feel those 2 facts are related.
Did the increase in wages cause the high taxes on the rich?
Did the high taxes cause the increase in wages?

Or did they just happen to occur at the same time?

No and No. High taxes were cause by government tax policies. High wages were caused by minimum wage laws. successful unions and government support of unions. What was common between them was liberal government policies.

The result was the best economic growth ever.

 

[jc456]

BTW, it isn't UE it is WELFARE. UE is for people who actually had a job and lost it. They lose that and move to official Welfare if they feel they don't want to work anymore.

Unemployment is a welfare program. Be more specific.

no it isn't. It is an entitlement program. Fking welfare is welfare. UE is for individuals between jobs. it actually stops. I bet you didn't know that since you so stupidly responded with that last message.

Again what welfare program? You have a lot of trouble being specific.

Welfare Programs Overview

"Welfare programs are state regulated programs for those who live under the minimum accepted level means as determined by each state government. Welfare benefits can fall under multiple different program umbrellas, all of which require certain elements of eligibility to acquire and maintain payments. These programs are cash assistance (TANF), the child support program, child care, energy or utility assistance, food assistance, medical assistance, and vocational rehabilitation services."

Aren't these people mostly employed, but low income or disabled/elderly?

nope. Money assistance is money assistance by anyone who qualifies.

 

[Brain357]

Employment is at-will. EDD should be required to show for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation.

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

It is NOT a net zero for the taxpayers. They have to pay for the buses and the bus drivers. They have to pay someone to recruit employers, and they have to pay someone to supervise the workers. They have to have an enforcement procedure for those who don't show up. All of this costs money.

It is also illegal to pay people less than the minimum wage for the job being done. Unless UE pay that minimum wage, employers are getting slave labour, and it may surprise you to learn, that many people with morals and principles will NOT exploit the poor in this way.

try to pay attention, moron. The buses are paid for by the farmers. The state provides them and the farmers reimburse the state. supervision is provided by the farmers, just like with any other employees. If a UE recipient doesn't show up, he doesn't get paid for that week. No extra employees needed to enforce that.

The UE rate is what it is. It is set by the state. Minimum wage laws do not apply to UE payments.,

So the farmers will be paying for buses and supervision, plus often high unemployment benefits while receiving poor quality labor from people who don't want to be there. Sounds like a loser for all. Bye agriculture.

 

[Brain357]

Unemployment is a welfare program. Be more specific.

no it isn't. It is an entitlement program. Fking welfare is welfare. UE is for individuals between jobs. it actually stops. I bet you didn't know that since you so stupidly responded with that last message.

Again what welfare program? You have a lot of trouble being specific.

Welfare Programs Overview

"Welfare programs are state regulated programs for those who live under the minimum accepted level means as determined by each state government. Welfare benefits can fall under multiple different program umbrellas, all of which require certain elements of eligibility to acquire and maintain payments. These programs are cash assistance (TANF), the child support program, child care, energy or utility assistance, food assistance, medical assistance, and vocational rehabilitation services."

Aren't these people mostly employed, but low income or disabled/elderly?

nope. Money assistance is money assistance by anyone who qualifies.

If they aren't you must have a link to support that.

 

[Redfish]

Employment is at-will.

Unemployment benefits are for those laid off.
Not for quitters or never workers.

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

It is NOT a net zero for the taxpayers. They have to pay for the buses and the bus drivers. They have to pay someone to recruit employers, and they have to pay someone to supervise the workers. They have to have an enforcement procedure for those who don't show up. All of this costs money.

It is also illegal to pay people less than the minimum wage for the job being done. Unless UE pay that minimum wage, employers are getting slave labour, and it may surprise you to learn, that many people with morals and principles will NOT exploit the poor in this way.

try to pay attention, moron. The buses are paid for by the farmers. The state provides them and the farmers reimburse the state. supervision is provided by the farmers, just like with any other employees. If a UE recipient doesn't show up, he doesn't get paid for that week. No extra employees needed to enforce that.

The UE rate is what it is. It is set by the state. Minimum wage laws do not apply to UE payments.,

So the farmers will be paying for buses and supervision, plus often high unemployment benefits while receiving poor quality labor from people who don't want to be there. Sounds like a loser for all. Bye agriculture.

so in your small mind its better for the taxpayers to pay someone to sit on his ass and do nothing? Picking crops is not a high skill job. I bet even you could do it.

 

[Brain357]

You have failed to respond to who pays the workers. You send them to random businesses, do they pay for the labor? How much?

already explained it to you. The workers get exactly what they would get from UE. The farmer pays the state that same amount. So its a net zero for the taxpayers.

It is NOT a net zero for the taxpayers. They have to pay for the buses and the bus drivers. They have to pay someone to recruit employers, and they have to pay someone to supervise the workers. They have to have an enforcement procedure for those who don't show up. All of this costs money.

It is also illegal to pay people less than the minimum wage for the job being done. Unless UE pay that minimum wage, employers are getting slave labour, and it may surprise you to learn, that many people with morals and principles will NOT exploit the poor in this way.

try to pay attention, moron. The buses are paid for by the farmers. The state provides them and the farmers reimburse the state. supervision is provided by the farmers, just like with any other employees. If a UE recipient doesn't show up, he doesn't get paid for that week. No extra employees needed to enforce that.

The UE rate is what it is. It is set by the state. Minimum wage laws do not apply to UE payments.,

So the farmers will be paying for buses and supervision, plus often high unemployment benefits while receiving poor quality labor from people who don't want to be there. Sounds like a loser for all. Bye agriculture.

so in your small mind its better for the taxpayers to pay someone to sit on his ass and do nothing? Picking crops is not a high skill job. I bet even you could do it.

You really are not bright. It would kill agriculture. Farmers would be greatly overpaying for bad labor.