Why do Republicans support a nuclear Iran?

So there's the deal, dipshits. Explain what is wrong with it, and what a "better deal" would entail.


The better deal, sancitons that would crush the Iranian economy and cause a collapse of the current regime. A military strike on their nuclear faciilties and the kidnapping or killing of their nuclear scientists.
 
You obviously have no understanding of Iran. Iran unlike South Africa of the past is not a rational regime, and won't ever be unless their is regime change.
Please explain how Iran is any less rational than the USSR was.


They believe in bringing about armageddon....read up on the 12 imam, and why they will use war to bring him back.......they believe it, and they are going to implement it.
 
what do you think that proves? that inspections were an area of contention? everyone knows that.

what makes you think Iran will be any more cooperative regarding inspection than it has been especially when the deal gives them both notice and the right to refuse?
it does not give them the right to refuse. they can protest, but not refuse


Yeah...we saw how well this worked with iraq.
it did work with iraq. iraq did not have a wmd program.
there are no 'no inspection zones'
And you know that how?

The accord will keep Iran from producing enough material for a nuclear weapon for at least 10 years and impose new provisions for inspections of Iranian facilities, including military sites.

Read more: Iran reaches landmark nuclear deal after compromise on U.N. inspections - Washington Times
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that's how.
what makes anyone think that there are no inspection zones?



'However, access isn’t guaranteed and could be delayed, a condition that critics of the deal Under the accord, Tehran would have the right to challenge U.N requests, and an arbitration board composed of Iran and the six world powers would then decide on the issue."

reading
so there aren't 'no inspection zones'
thank you.

So you weren't old enough to remember the iraq weapons inspection fiasco?
That would explain a lot of things....
i remember they were refusing inspectors. i also remember that they weren't voluntarily in that agreement, and that they did not have wmd programs.

what do you remember?
 
obama planned on giving them everything

Straw man.

Substantiate your claim or step aside.


They export terrorism around the world, they are currently holding Americans prisoner in their country, their weapons and soldiers were the ones killing Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan and they have repeatedly stated they will use a nuclear weapon to destroy Israel, and have never changed that position. So substantiate that......
Substantiate your claim Obama planned on giving them everything.
 
From the BBC link I just provided:

Iran would need tens of thousands of centrifuges to construct a bomb. It currently has almost 20,000. Under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)agreed on 14 July, it will be limited to installing no more than 5,060 of the oldest and least efficient centrifuges at Natanz for 10 years.

Iran's uranium stockpile will also be reduced by 98% to 300kg (660lbs) for 15 years. It must also keep its level of enrichment at 3.67%.

In addition, research and development will take place only at Natanz and be limited for eight years. No enrichment will be permitted at Fordo for 15 years, and the underground facility will be converted into a nuclear, physics and technology centre. The 1,044 centrifuges at the site will produce radioisotopes for use in medicine, agriculture, industry and science.

Iran has been building a heavy-water nuclear facility near the town of Arak. Spent fuel from a heavy-water reactor contains plutonium suitable for a nuclear bomb.
Iran has now agreed to redesign the reactor so it cannot produce any weapons-grade plutonium and presents less of a proliferation threat, according to the White House. All spent fuel will be sent out of the country as long as the reactor exists.

Iran will also not be permitted to build additional heavy-water reactors or accumulate heavy water for 15 years.

Inspectors from the global nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), will continuously monitor Iran's declared nuclear sites and also verify that no fissile material is moved covertly to a secret location to build a bomb.

Iran has also agreed to implement the Additional Protocol to their IAEA Safeguards Agreement, which will allow inspectors to access any site they deem suspicious.

Sanctions imposed by the UN, US and EU in an attempt to force Iran to halt uranium enrichment have crippled its economy, costing the country more than $160bn (£102bn) in oil revenue since 2012 alone. Iran stands to receive more than $100bn in assets frozen overseas, and will be able to resume selling oil on international markets and using the global financial system for trade.

Iran will not see sanctions lifted until the IAEA confirms that it has followed through with its end of the JCPOA. Should Iran violate any aspect of the deal, the UN sanctions will automatically "snap back" into place for 10 years, with the possibility of a five-year extension.

Iran has also agreed to the continuation of the UN arms embargo on the country for up to five years, although it could end earlier if the IAEA is satisfied that its nuclear programme is entirely peaceful. A UN ban on the import of ballistic missile technology could also remain in place for up to eight years.


I'm curious...you post that article like anything in it has any bearing on what iran is going to do........your problem is that like any leftist, you believe that history only begins when you wake up in the morning, please go back and read about Munich, and "Peace in our Time." That will explain everything you need to know....
 
You obviously have no understanding of Iran. Iran unlike South Africa of the past is not a rational regime, and won't ever be unless their is regime change.
Please explain how Iran is any less rational than the USSR was.


They believe in bringing about armageddon....read up on the 12 imam, and why they will use war to bring him back.......they believe it, and they are going to implement it.
So you have bupkis.
 
obama planned on giving them everything

Straw man.

Substantiate your claim or step aside.


They export terrorism around the world, they are currently holding Americans prisoner in their country, their weapons and soldiers were the ones killing Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan and they have repeatedly stated they will use a nuclear weapon to destroy Israel, and have never changed that position. So substantiate that......
Substantiate your claim Obama planned on giving them everything.


I won't have to, and nothing I tell you will sink into your brain. Once iran does exactly what we tell you they will do, you will then deny that it is obama's fault, was how it was going to work out when we told you the first time and you will then.......blame Bush.......or the Republicans.....or the Tea Party.......
 
You obviously have no understanding of Iran. Iran unlike South Africa of the past is not a rational regime, and won't ever be unless their is regime change.
Please explain how Iran is any less rational than the USSR was.

Um, did you ever have the batshit crazy mullahs making decisions for the USSR?
 
From the BBC link I just provided:

Iran would need tens of thousands of centrifuges to construct a bomb. It currently has almost 20,000. Under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)agreed on 14 July, it will be limited to installing no more than 5,060 of the oldest and least efficient centrifuges at Natanz for 10 years.

Iran's uranium stockpile will also be reduced by 98% to 300kg (660lbs) for 15 years. It must also keep its level of enrichment at 3.67%.

In addition, research and development will take place only at Natanz and be limited for eight years. No enrichment will be permitted at Fordo for 15 years, and the underground facility will be converted into a nuclear, physics and technology centre. The 1,044 centrifuges at the site will produce radioisotopes for use in medicine, agriculture, industry and science.

Iran has been building a heavy-water nuclear facility near the town of Arak. Spent fuel from a heavy-water reactor contains plutonium suitable for a nuclear bomb.
Iran has now agreed to redesign the reactor so it cannot produce any weapons-grade plutonium and presents less of a proliferation threat, according to the White House. All spent fuel will be sent out of the country as long as the reactor exists.

Iran will also not be permitted to build additional heavy-water reactors or accumulate heavy water for 15 years.

Inspectors from the global nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), will continuously monitor Iran's declared nuclear sites and also verify that no fissile material is moved covertly to a secret location to build a bomb.

Iran has also agreed to implement the Additional Protocol to their IAEA Safeguards Agreement, which will allow inspectors to access any site they deem suspicious.

Sanctions imposed by the UN, US and EU in an attempt to force Iran to halt uranium enrichment have crippled its economy, costing the country more than $160bn (£102bn) in oil revenue since 2012 alone. Iran stands to receive more than $100bn in assets frozen overseas, and will be able to resume selling oil on international markets and using the global financial system for trade.

Iran will not see sanctions lifted until the IAEA confirms that it has followed through with its end of the JCPOA. Should Iran violate any aspect of the deal, the UN sanctions will automatically "snap back" into place for 10 years, with the possibility of a five-year extension.

Iran has also agreed to the continuation of the UN arms embargo on the country for up to five years, although it could end earlier if the IAEA is satisfied that its nuclear programme is entirely peaceful. A UN ban on the import of ballistic missile technology could also remain in place for up to eight years.


I'm curious...you post that article like anything in it has any bearing on what iran is going to do........your problem is that like any leftist, you believe that history only begins when you wake up in the morning, please go back and read about Munich, and "Peace in our Time." That will explain everything you need to know....

We have made treaties in the past with uncooperative nations. You bring absolutely nothing to the table to explain why this treaty is any worse than any other treaty we have ever made.

In short, you are full of shit.
 
You obviously have no understanding of Iran. Iran unlike South Africa of the past is not a rational regime, and won't ever be unless their is regime change.
Please explain how Iran is any less rational than the USSR was.

Um, did you ever have the batshit crazy mullahs making decisions for the USSR?
No one has provided any evidence there are "batshit crazy mullahs" and that they make all the decisions, or that they are any more dangerous than a Russian premier who promised to bury us and had the nuclear weapons to back it up.

I think you like being afraid. I really do.
 
So there's the deal, dipshits. Explain what is wrong with it, and what a "better deal" would entail.


The better deal, sancitons that would crush the Iranian economy and cause a collapse of the current regime. A military strike on their nuclear faciilties and the kidnapping or killing of their nuclear scientists.
So you would nuke Iran. This is your brilliant plan.
 
It's funny. One day the nutjobs are denying they have longed for war with Iran. The next day, they are talking about bombing Iran and killing scientists.

Positively schizophrenic.
 
First, it would be nearly impossible to take out Iran's nuclear program with airstrikes.

Second, such a strike would only convince the Iranian people they need a nuke more than ever.

Idiotic plan.
 
That's always the Republican Party plan for any problem: Don't offer up an alternative, and attack the other guy's plan.

That's the tactic of the worst breed of coward.
 
Elimination of centrifuges. Elimination of fissile material. Refitting of breeder reactor. Inspections, inspections, and more inspections.

"Oh, that plan SUX!", say the Republicans. :badgrin:
 
First, it would be nearly impossible to take out Iran's nuclear program with airstrikes.

Second, such a strike would only convince the Iranian people they need a nuke more than ever.

Idiotic plan.

Then the Iranian people are retarded.
 
We are dictating to a sovereign nation their internal affairs. How far do you retards think you can go with that?
 
First, it would be nearly impossible to take out Iran's nuclear program with airstrikes.

Second, such a strike would only convince the Iranian people they need a nuke more than ever.

Idiotic plan.

Then the Iranian people are retarded.
Nope. It would be an entirely rational conclusion. "If we have nukes, they won't dare fuck with us."

And they would be right.
 

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