Why do the God-haters persist?

You really are stupid.

I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than wishful thinking. The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there’s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.” – Carl Sagan

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” - Mark Twain

YOU TELL ME WHAT carl sagan and mark twain said,WHILE I TELL YOU WHAT ALMIGHTY GOD SAYS!!! GOD SAYS,"BELIEVER AND HAVE FAITH!!! YOU ALL READY HAVE ALL YOU NEED=YOU SALL READY GOT IT!!!===http://www.awmi.net/tv/this_week

There is no god and even if there is, he never talked to anyone on earth except for ancient superstitious stories from 2000 years ago or wack jobs in evangelical churches. No exorcisms, witches, ghosts, angels or god.

Well really, dude. Without traumatizing children with lurid stories of searing flesh, sacrificial lambs blood being smeared on doors, death by drowning, eternal damnation due to fruit theft, burning in hell, gods wiping most of humanity from the planet because they were a disappointment, etc., how else do you you teach children about love and kindness?
 
YOU TELL ME WHAT carl sagan and mark twain said,WHILE I TELL YOU WHAT ALMIGHTY GOD SAYS!!! GOD SAYS,"BELIEVER AND HAVE FAITH!!! YOU ALL READY HAVE ALL YOU NEED=YOU SALL READY GOT IT!!!===http://www.awmi.net/tv/this_week

There is no god and even if there is, he never talked to anyone on earth except for ancient superstitious stories from 2000 years ago or wack jobs in evangelical churches. No exorcisms, witches, ghosts, angels or god.

Well really, dude. Without traumatizing children with lurid stories of searing flesh, sacrificial lambs blood being smeared on doors, death by drowning, eternal damnation due to fruit theft, burning in hell, gods wiping most of humanity from the planet because they were a disappointment, etc., how else do you you teach children about love and kindness?

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you???
 
There is no god and even if there is, he never talked to anyone on earth except for ancient superstitious stories from 2000 years ago or wack jobs in evangelical churches. No exorcisms, witches, ghosts, angels or god.

Well really, dude. Without traumatizing children with lurid stories of searing flesh, sacrificial lambs blood being smeared on doors, death by drowning, eternal damnation due to fruit theft, burning in hell, gods wiping most of humanity from the planet because they were a disappointment, etc., how else do you you teach children about love and kindness?

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you???

Your quote is incorrect.

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God but Zeus!”


AND YOU?????????
 
Well really, dude. Without traumatizing children with lurid stories of searing flesh, sacrificial lambs blood being smeared on doors, death by drowning, eternal damnation due to fruit theft, burning in hell, gods wiping most of humanity from the planet because they were a disappointment, etc., how else do you you teach children about love and kindness?

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you???

Your quote is incorrect.

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God but Zeus!”


AND YOU?????????

ZEUS????? DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT THAT FALSE god these days or the fools that followed that demon. and you??
 
that man is a fool who says to himself, “there is no god!” anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.psalm 14:1===only a fool would say to himself, “there is no god.” and why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. Psalm 53:1 and you???

your quote is incorrect.

That man is a fool who says to himself, “there is no god but zeus!”


and you?????????

zeus????? Don't hear much about that false god these days or the fools that followed that demon. And you??

zeus is the true god!!!!!!!

Your gods are posers!!!!!!!! Time to repent or else!!!!!!


And you?????????
 
your quote is incorrect.

That man is a fool who says to himself, “there is no god but zeus!”


and you?????????

zeus????? Don't hear much about that false god these days or the fools that followed that demon. And you??

zeus is the true god!!!!!!!

Your gods are posers!!!!!!!! Time to repent or else!!!!!!


And you?????????

ROFLMAO!!! zeus????? proven to be a demon inspired false god. WHAT GREAT NATION OR PEOPLE believe in zeus today????? IN THE USA= THE WORLD'S ONLY REAL SUPERPOWER= IN GOD WE TRUST!!!
 
zeus????? Don't hear much about that false god these days or the fools that followed that demon. And you??

zeus is the true god!!!!!!!

Your gods are posers!!!!!!!! Time to repent or else!!!!!!


And you?????????

roflmao!!! Zeus????? Proven to be a demon inspired false god. What great nation or people believe in zeus today????? In the usa= the world's only real superpower= in god we trust!!!

in zeus we trust!!!

And you??????
 
There is no god and even if there is, he never talked to anyone on earth except for ancient superstitious stories from 2000 years ago or wack jobs in evangelical churches. No exorcisms, witches, ghosts, angels or god.

Well really, dude. Without traumatizing children with lurid stories of searing flesh, sacrificial lambs blood being smeared on doors, death by drowning, eternal damnation due to fruit theft, burning in hell, gods wiping most of humanity from the planet because they were a disappointment, etc., how else do you you teach children about love and kindness?

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you???

You've already said that a million times **** lips. Do the Boss' of USMB get to go to heaven because they believe in god but not jesus?
 
zeus????? Don't hear much about that false god these days or the fools that followed that demon. And you??

zeus is the true god!!!!!!!

Your gods are posers!!!!!!!! Time to repent or else!!!!!!


And you?????????

ROFLMAO!!! zeus????? proven to be a demon inspired false god. WHAT GREAT NATION OR PEOPLE believe in zeus today????? IN THE USA= THE WORLD'S ONLY REAL SUPERPOWER= IN GOD WE TRUST!!!

Yes eventually we wised up to the fable and killed Zeus and Jesus is next along with Allah.
 
Well really, dude. Without traumatizing children with lurid stories of searing flesh, sacrificial lambs blood being smeared on doors, death by drowning, eternal damnation due to fruit theft, burning in hell, gods wiping most of humanity from the planet because they were a disappointment, etc., how else do you you teach children about love and kindness?

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you???

You've already said that a million times **** lips. Do the Boss' of USMB get to go to heaven because they believe in god but not jesus?

GOD IS JESUS!!! JESUS IS GOD!!! duh!!!
 
That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you???

You've already said that a million times **** lips. Do the Boss' of USMB get to go to heaven because they believe in god but not jesus?

GOD IS JESUS!!! JESUS IS GOD!!! duh!!!

So muslims who believe in god go to heaven too?

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no Zeus” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all. Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no Zeus.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin.

And you **** lips?
 
You've already said that a million times **** lips. Do the Boss' of USMB get to go to heaven because they believe in god but not jesus?

GOD IS JESUS!!! JESUS IS GOD!!! duh!!!

So muslims who believe in god go to heaven too?

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no Zeus” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all. Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no Zeus.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin.

And you **** lips?

wow!!! such ignorance!!! The muslim god is not GOD!!! The muslim god has no SON.
 
You've already said that a million times **** lips. Do the Boss' of USMB get to go to heaven because they believe in god but not jesus?

GOD IS JESUS!!! JESUS IS GOD!!! duh!!!

So muslims who believe in god go to heaven too?

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no Zeus” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all. Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no Zeus.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin.

And you **** lips?

ALLAH is a false god invented by a seventh century Arabian psychopath who's name was Mohammad. Muhammad is buried at a mosque located in Medina, Saudi Arabia. The Qur'an (Koran) teaches that Muhammad awaits in his grave for Jesus' judgment. The Koran affirms that Jesus is alive with God. So, it is that Islam's "prophet" Muhammad is dead and Jesus, the world's Messiah, is still alive. (ayah 3,55; 19,33-34). Details at "Islam-101 tells what the Koran teaches about Jesus."

Islam's existing historical records paint a picture of the possessed Muhammad as being a psychopathic liar, rapist, warlord, bandit, murderer, slave owner, pedophile, sexually obsessed, possessing concubines, and many wives, including his own daughter-in-law. The Hadith records his weird ideas and weird behavior.

In our times, he would be described a person with such extensive record of debauchery as a mentally disturbed, international criminal, who was guilty of countless human rights violations.

Followers of his evil, invented religion are enslaved by it for life, with death sentences for renouncing Islam. Islam is a prison with invisible walls that are guarded by the killers of its apostates. Its 750,000,000 women are in bondage by which they are dominated by men as their slaves. (Ayah 4:34)
 
GOD IS JESUS!!! JESUS IS GOD!!! duh!!!

So muslims who believe in god go to heaven too?

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no Zeus” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all. Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no Zeus.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin.

And you **** lips?

ALLAH is a false god invented by a seventh century Arabian psychopath who's name was Mohammad. Muhammad is buried at a mosque located in Medina, Saudi Arabia. The Qur'an (Koran) teaches that Muhammad awaits in his grave for Jesus' judgment. The Koran affirms that Jesus is alive with God. So, it is that Islam's "prophet" Muhammad is dead and Jesus, the world's Messiah, is still alive. (ayah 3,55; 19,33-34). Details at "Islam-101 tells what the Koran teaches about Jesus."

Islam's existing historical records paint a picture of the possessed Muhammad as being a psychopathic liar, rapist, warlord, bandit, murderer, slave owner, pedophile, sexually obsessed, possessing concubines, and many wives, including his own daughter-in-law. The Hadith records his weird ideas and weird behavior.

In our times, he would be described a person with such extensive record of debauchery as a mentally disturbed, international criminal, who was guilty of countless human rights violations.

Followers of his evil, invented religion are enslaved by it for life, with death sentences for renouncing Islam. Islam is a prison with invisible walls that are guarded by the killers of its apostates. Its 750,000,000 women are in bondage by which they are dominated by men as their slaves. (Ayah 4:34)

The god of Mohammed perfected your religion. Mohammed said so, therefore it's true.

CONVERT TO THE UPDATED AND CORRECTED VERSION OF CHRISTIANITY. ITS CALLED ISLAM.


AND YOU???????
 
So muslims who believe in god go to heaven too?

That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no Zeus” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all. Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no Zeus.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin.

And you **** lips?

ALLAH is a false god invented by a seventh century Arabian psychopath who's name was Mohammad. Muhammad is buried at a mosque located in Medina, Saudi Arabia. The Qur'an (Koran) teaches that Muhammad awaits in his grave for Jesus' judgment. The Koran affirms that Jesus is alive with God. So, it is that Islam's "prophet" Muhammad is dead and Jesus, the world's Messiah, is still alive. (ayah 3,55; 19,33-34). Details at "Islam-101 tells what the Koran teaches about Jesus."

Islam's existing historical records paint a picture of the possessed Muhammad as being a psychopathic liar, rapist, warlord, bandit, murderer, slave owner, pedophile, sexually obsessed, possessing concubines, and many wives, including his own daughter-in-law. The Hadith records his weird ideas and weird behavior.

In our times, he would be described a person with such extensive record of debauchery as a mentally disturbed, international criminal, who was guilty of countless human rights violations.

Followers of his evil, invented religion are enslaved by it for life, with death sentences for renouncing Islam. Islam is a prison with invisible walls that are guarded by the killers of its apostates. Its 750,000,000 women are in bondage by which they are dominated by men as their slaves. (Ayah 4:34)

The god of Mohammed perfected your religion. Mohammed said so, therefore it's true.

CONVERT TO THE UPDATED AND CORRECTED VERSION OF CHRISTIANITY. ITS CALLED ISLAM.


AND YOU???????

AND YOU??? YOU ARE A SILLY IGNORANT waste of time!!! begone!!!
 
zeus is the true god!!!!!!!

Your gods are posers!!!!!!!! Time to repent or else!!!!!!


And you?????????

ROFLMAO!!! zeus????? proven to be a demon inspired false god. WHAT GREAT NATION OR PEOPLE believe in zeus today????? IN THE USA= THE WORLD'S ONLY REAL SUPERPOWER= IN GOD WE TRUST!!!

Yes eventually we wised up to the fable and killed Zeus and Jesus is next along with Allah.

You know who else killed their gods? Klingons, that's who.

Do you really want to be like the Klingons? Me neither. And that's why I worship Pan, the Goat God.

Don't be like the Klingons.
 
Why is it now that we have developed rational inquiry we hear only a deafening silence from a god who once supposedly engaged regularly in human affairs? Why does god not simply speak to us or appear before us as he supposedly used to? Why are we the losers in the dice roll of time? If a god places such a high value on us worshipping and believing then why not simply make its existence obvious to us? If one accepts the prevailing scientific understanding of the development of the universe, yet also believes in one of the major religions, then presumably a god sat idle for 13.7 billion years

If Jesus is God then presumably he is omniscient. If this is true, then when he allowed himself to be sacrificed, didn’t he do this with the knowledge that he was immortal? If so, then how exactly was it a sacrifice for him? What did he sacrifice?

Let me pose some questions for you to ponder here... What does time mean to something which resides outside the spacetime continuum we experience in our universe? Why would an omnipotent and immortal entity have "wants and desires" or place "value" on anything?

Try to wrap your mind around it, God is not a physical entity. God does not exist as part of a physical reality we experience through time. There is no invisible man sitting on a cloud. Until you can grasp the concept of what a spiritual entity is, you can't rationalize any of this because it makes no sense.

People worship and believe in God not because God commands it, but because they feel it will please God for them to do so. But does God experience pleasure? You see, everything we try and relate to God simply doesn't apply to God. We create an incarnation of something that is like humans, has human attributes and emotions, is effected by time, has desires, needs, wants, gets angry or shows compassion... these are humanistic attributes that do not apply to a spiritual entity. But since we can't comprehend it, we create these things to supposedly help us better understand it. We're flawed... totally fucked up creatures. Sometimes our worst adversary is our own minds.

Couple of things I wanted to respond to here.

I tend to agree that, if there is a god that created the universe, is not affected by time as we are, etc.....we likely could not understand the behavior or motivations of such a being. That doesn't mean it would not have desires or wants, or not have human-like emotions. It means there's no real way for us to know or predict what such a being is like.

I find it strange that you call humans flawed, totally fucked up creatures, yet used an expectation of rational behavior as one of your reasons that religion cannot be based on human imaginings. Why couldn't such flawed, fucked up creatures go on believing in what amounts to a fairy tale, even if doing so is irrational? :dunno:

Religion is not spiritual connection, how many times must I correct the other side on this? Man created religions, he did not create spiritual connection. Religions are all based on human imagination relating to the spiritual nature they connect with.

God doesn't have humanistic attributes because why would God need them? Desire and want is what humans have because we're not omnipotent and immortal. Any "desire" God might have could be immediately fulfilled by God. IF God wanted everyone on the planet to worship Him, you would have no choice in the matter... not worshiping God would be like not breathing air.

If G-d has no wants and desires, then why does he care what you do?

God doesn't "care" what you do, caring is a human emotion. God is a spiritual energy force, to put it in a way you can understand and relate. Now think about an energy force within the physical, like electricity... does it "care" what you do with it? You better be fucking careful with it, that's for sure. But does it "care" one way or the other? You can plug a lamp in the outlet and "tap into" the energy to gain benefit... same with God, you can maintain spiritual fidelity with God and gain benefit from it. You can receive guidance from God, inspiration, courage and strength. God doesn't care if you do this or not. Just as electricity doesn't care there are Amish people.
 
Let me pose some questions for you to ponder here... What does time mean to something which resides outside the spacetime continuum we experience in our universe? Why would an omnipotent and immortal entity have "wants and desires" or place "value" on anything?

Try to wrap your mind around it, God is not a physical entity. God does not exist as part of a physical reality we experience through time. There is no invisible man sitting on a cloud. Until you can grasp the concept of what a spiritual entity is, you can't rationalize any of this because it makes no sense.

People worship and believe in God not because God commands it, but because they feel it will please God for them to do so. But does God experience pleasure? You see, everything we try and relate to God simply doesn't apply to God. We create an incarnation of something that is like humans, has human attributes and emotions, is effected by time, has desires, needs, wants, gets angry or shows compassion... these are humanistic attributes that do not apply to a spiritual entity. But since we can't comprehend it, we create these things to supposedly help us better understand it. We're flawed... totally fucked up creatures. Sometimes our worst adversary is our own minds.

Couple of things I wanted to respond to here.

I tend to agree that, if there is a god that created the universe, is not affected by time as we are, etc.....we likely could not understand the behavior or motivations of such a being. That doesn't mean it would not have desires or wants, or not have human-like emotions. It means there's no real way for us to know or predict what such a being is like.

I find it strange that you call humans flawed, totally fucked up creatures, yet used an expectation of rational behavior as one of your reasons that religion cannot be based on human imaginings. Why couldn't such flawed, fucked up creatures go on believing in what amounts to a fairy tale, even if doing so is irrational? :dunno:

Religion is not spiritual connection, how many times must I correct the other side on this? Man created religions, he did not create spiritual connection. Religions are all based on human imagination relating to the spiritual nature they connect with.

God doesn't have humanistic attributes because why would God need them? Desire and want is what humans have because we're not omnipotent and immortal. Any "desire" God might have could be immediately fulfilled by God. IF God wanted everyone on the planet to worship Him, you would have no choice in the matter... not worshiping God would be like not breathing air.

If G-d has no wants and desires, then why does he care what you do?

God doesn't "care" what you do, caring is a human emotion. God is a spiritual energy force, to put it in a way you can understand and relate. Now think about an energy force within the physical, like electricity... does it "care" what you do with it? You better be fucking careful with it, that's for sure. But does it "care" one way or the other? You can plug a lamp in the outlet and "tap into" the energy to gain benefit... same with God, you can maintain spiritual fidelity with God and gain benefit from it. You can receive guidance from God, inspiration, courage and strength. God doesn't care if you do this or not. Just as electricity doesn't care there are Amish people.

GOD loves his creation and he wants to see you live and not perish but GOD will not force you to accept his love and blessings,you are free to reject GOD and chose hell!
 
Let me pose some questions for you to ponder here... What does time mean to something which resides outside the spacetime continuum we experience in our universe? Why would an omnipotent and immortal entity have "wants and desires" or place "value" on anything?

Try to wrap your mind around it, God is not a physical entity. God does not exist as part of a physical reality we experience through time. There is no invisible man sitting on a cloud. Until you can grasp the concept of what a spiritual entity is, you can't rationalize any of this because it makes no sense.

People worship and believe in God not because God commands it, but because they feel it will please God for them to do so. But does God experience pleasure? You see, everything we try and relate to God simply doesn't apply to God. We create an incarnation of something that is like humans, has human attributes and emotions, is effected by time, has desires, needs, wants, gets angry or shows compassion... these are humanistic attributes that do not apply to a spiritual entity. But since we can't comprehend it, we create these things to supposedly help us better understand it. We're flawed... totally fucked up creatures. Sometimes our worst adversary is our own minds.

Couple of things I wanted to respond to here.

I tend to agree that, if there is a god that created the universe, is not affected by time as we are, etc.....we likely could not understand the behavior or motivations of such a being. That doesn't mean it would not have desires or wants, or not have human-like emotions. It means there's no real way for us to know or predict what such a being is like.

I find it strange that you call humans flawed, totally fucked up creatures, yet used an expectation of rational behavior as one of your reasons that religion cannot be based on human imaginings. Why couldn't such flawed, fucked up creatures go on believing in what amounts to a fairy tale, even if doing so is irrational? :dunno:

Religion is not spiritual connection, how many times must I correct the other side on this? Man created religions, he did not create spiritual connection. Religions are all based on human imagination relating to the spiritual nature they connect with.

God doesn't have humanistic attributes because why would God need them? Desire and want is what humans have because we're not omnipotent and immortal. Any "desire" God might have could be immediately fulfilled by God. IF God wanted everyone on the planet to worship Him, you would have no choice in the matter... not worshiping God would be like not breathing air.

If G-d has no wants and desires, then why does he care what you do?

God doesn't "care" what you do, caring is a human emotion. God is a spiritual energy force, to put it in a way you can understand and relate. Now think about an energy force within the physical, like electricity... does it "care" what you do with it? You better be fucking careful with it, that's for sure. But does it "care" one way or the other? You can plug a lamp in the outlet and "tap into" the energy to gain benefit... same with God, you can maintain spiritual fidelity with God and gain benefit from it. You can receive guidance from God, inspiration, courage and strength. God doesn't care if you do this or not. Just as electricity doesn't care there are Amish people.

Religion may not be spiritual connection, but you've used religion as evidence the spiritual exists. You have said, and I'm paraphrasing, that religion must be based on a real spiritual connection because there's no way humanity would continue to hold such beliefs if they were based on nothing real. So again, if humans are such flawed, fucked up creatures, why can't we have made up the various religions of the world without them being based on a real spiritual connection?

Why do you feel you are able to understand the nature of god, this being so far beyond human comprehension, while the vast majority of others do not?

Do you think god has intelligence? You've compared god to electricity on more than one occasion, but if god did anything like create the universe, that would imply intelligence. If there is an intelligence, what reason is there to assume there are no emotions, no desires, no needs? Could they not just be things we don't understand but desires and needs nonetheless?
 
GOD loves his creation and he wants to see you live and not perish but GOD will not force you to accept his love and blessings,you are free to reject GOD and chose hell!

Well sorry, but that is why I am not a Christian. I don't believe God "loves" because God is a spiritual energy. I believe if your soul should do something to disrupt the positive flow of God's spiritual energy, you will pay the consequences... just as you would pay the consequences for sticking a butter knife into an outlet, except to a much greater degree... we're talking about your immortal soul here. When our physical lives are over, our souls will pass to another dimension, possibly in this same universe or on this same planet. Our "reality" experience will be whatever God has in store next, I don't know that.

Don't take this the wrong way, I don't think God is "unintelligent" or incapable of anything, God knows all and is capable of all. You don't have to confess your sins, God knows about them, God knew before you you sinned. God also knows most of the Atheists here are lying and they do believe in God, they are just angry at religion.
 

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