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Since about 95% of the human race is spiritual, I would say that more than likely, most slave owners were probably God-fearing men. That doesn't really mean a whole lot because you can say that about virtually ANYTHING. Most people who saved the lives of others were believers in God... Most people who sacrificed their own life for others were believers in God. Most people who adopt cats are believers in God. Hell... Most people who voted for Obama are believers in God!
Boss,We see them here everyday, interjecting their hate-filled insultuous attacks on the religious, mocking and ridiculing to a bizarre extreme, anything and everything to do with God. They largely profess to be "Atheists" although some, as if to denote a hint of reluctance to go quite that far, will claim agnosticism instead. Best play it safe if we're dealing with a super-force who can send you to the pits of hell for all eternity, eh? But they have a dirty little secret they don't want any of us to know. They are not, in fact, Atheists or agnostic.
True Atheists have absolutely no inclination to attack people who profess religious belief. If anything, they are amused by the "believers" and find them a bit of a novelty. Much like an adult who encounters a child believing in Santa or the Easter Bunny. There is no harm to the adult in such beliefs, the adult knows these are not real entities, and it's simply an amusement to them. In fact, they may even 'play along' with the idea, just in the name of fun. What does it hurt? No, you don't see hoards of smart-assed punks at the mall where Santa visits, ridiculing and belittling the people standing in line to see him. Message boards aren't clogged up with degenerate misfits decrying the belief of a giant bunny who brings candy and hides eggs, because it doesn't really matter to anyone that some people entertain this notion.
Oh but it's because those are just kids, Boss! Well okay, let's take the thousands of nutty conspiracy theories out there. Do you see any evidence of people devoting every waking hour to go on message boards and forums to "inform" these people how they are crazy and misinformed? Nope. It doesn't matter. As long as you know something is too far-fetched to be true, you could care less what other people think. If someone wants to think Elvis is still alive on some remote island, what difference does that make to me? I might be inclined to casually comment that I don't believe it, but I am certainly not devoting the bulk of my energy and time online to categorically try and refute any inkling of thought pertaining to such a theory. And I am certainly not going to the extreme efforts to ridicule and insult the nuts who believe such theories. It's just not that important to me, nor to anyone else for that matter.
But with the God-haters and God, things are quite different. Although they claim to be Atheists or agnostics, my suspicion is they are anything but. It appears they are devout believers in God, who fully understand the power of God and how much God influences others who believe in Him. To put it in simple terms, they fear God. They are afraid if they do not stand up and fight God with all their might, God may become a bigger influence and that wouldn't be good for them, for whatever reason.
Most of the time, these reasons center around that person's life choices. They have totally abandoned the God they very much believe in, so they can be unaccountable for their moral behaviors. As long as there is "no god" to judge them, they can do whatever they please and there are no consequences. It's important that we understand, any time someone is doing something immoral or wrong, they had rather have company. This provides a codependency, a way they can somehow justify their behavior to themselves.
So this is why the God-haters persist on message boards and forums, to 'recruit' people over to their way of thinking. They believe they can ridicule and cajole people into being ashamed of their beliefs and those people will ultimately join their faction. If nothing else, it is 'therapeutic' for them to vent their anger and vitriol toward the God they know is real, and they are almost certain to meet up with others who are doing the same thing.
lol....Boss,
There is no such thing as god. And even if there were, he would be the greatest evil ever encountered. There is a documentary out there that can deprogram you. It's called "Religious." After that, to really seal the deal, I ran across a free ebook you need to read. Really bad! Just enter into your browser, "Our Holy Hell: The Causes, The Solutions." These things are assuming that you even want to know the truth.
True, God (if he even existed) must be a really bad person.Boss,
There is no such thing as god. And even if there were, he would be the greatest evil ever encountered. There is a documentary out there that can deprogram you. It's called "Religious." After that, to really seal the deal, I ran across a free ebook you need to read. Really bad! Just enter into your browser, "Our Holy Hell: The Causes, The Solutions." These things are assuming that you even want to know the truth.
Darwin was born in 1809. You given the red necks in the 1700's deep dirty red neck south credit for coming up with Darwinism?
They may have believed that blacks were animals but they were christians/god fearing men too buddy don't lie. Remember, EVERYONE believes. Right?
Blacks were talking about this today on Detroit Radio. One guy said MLK should have told blacks to start their own business' and patronize black only business' instead of begging to spend money in whiteys place. Blacks would be better off. I agree.
We see them here everyday, interjecting their hate-filled insultuous attacks on the religious, mocking and ridiculing to a bizarre extreme, anything and everything to do with God. They largely profess to be "Atheists" although some, as if to denote a hint of reluctance to go quite that far, will claim agnosticism instead. Best play it safe if we're dealing with a super-force who can send you to the pits of hell for all eternity, eh? But they have a dirty little secret they don't want any of us to know. They are not, in fact, Atheists or agnostic.
True Atheists have absolutely no inclination to attack people who profess religious belief. If anything, they are amused by the "believers" and find them a bit of a novelty. Much like an adult who encounters a child believing in Santa or the Easter Bunny. There is no harm to the adult in such beliefs, the adult knows these are not real entities, and it's simply an amusement to them. In fact, they may even 'play along' with the idea, just in the name of fun. What does it hurt? No, you don't see hoards of smart-assed punks at the mall where Santa visits, ridiculing and belittling the people standing in line to see him. Message boards aren't clogged up with degenerate misfits decrying the belief of a giant bunny who brings candy and hides eggs, because it doesn't really matter to anyone that some people entertain this notion.
Oh but it's because those are just kids, Boss! Well okay, let's take the thousands of nutty conspiracy theories out there. Do you see any evidence of people devoting every waking hour to go on message boards and forums to "inform" these people how they are crazy and misinformed? Nope. It doesn't matter. As long as you know something is too far-fetched to be true, you could care less what other people think. If someone wants to think Elvis is still alive on some remote island, what difference does that make to me? I might be inclined to casually comment that I don't believe it, but I am certainly not devoting the bulk of my energy and time online to categorically try and refute any inkling of thought pertaining to such a theory. And I am certainly not going to the extreme efforts to ridicule and insult the nuts who believe such theories. It's just not that important to me, nor to anyone else for that matter.
But with the God-haters and God, things are quite different. Although they claim to be Atheists or agnostics, my suspicion is they are anything but. It appears they are devout believers in God, who fully understand the power of God and how much God influences others who believe in Him. To put it in simple terms, they fear God. They are afraid if they do not stand up and fight God with all their might, God may become a bigger influence and that wouldn't be good for them, for whatever reason.
Most of the time, these reasons center around that person's life choices. They have totally abandoned the God they very much believe in, so they can be unaccountable for their moral behaviors. As long as there is "no god" to judge them, they can do whatever they please and there are no consequences. It's important that we understand, any time someone is doing something immoral or wrong, they had rather have company. This provides a codependency, a way they can somehow justify their behavior to themselves.
So this is why the God-haters persist on message boards and forums, to 'recruit' people over to their way of thinking. They believe they can ridicule and cajole people into being ashamed of their beliefs and those people will ultimately join their faction. If nothing else, it is 'therapeutic' for them to vent their anger and vitriol toward the God they know is real, and they are almost certain to meet up with others who are doing the same thing.
Okay, maybe I should have said "bad entity". And I'm not talking about the things mankind has done "in the name of God." I'm talking about Bible stories (like Noah) in which God just wanted to destroy the earth or the fact that he sends people to a place to burn forever only for the reason that you do not believe in him/her/it. That are awful things to do, right? And according to your Holy Book it are things God did/is doing.Except that God is not a person. The things you and others are crediting to God are the actions of man. Men can be really bad people, even in the name of God.
Okay, maybe I should have said "bad entity". And I'm not talking about the things mankind has done "in the name of God." I'm talking about Bible stories (like Noah) in which God just wanted to destroy the earth or the fact that he sends people to a place to burn forever only for the reason that you do not believe in him/her/it. That are awful things to do, right? And according to your Holy Book it are things God did/is doing.
I guess you're like Hollie, too stupid to understand what "20th century" means?
again... since 95% of humans believe in a God, anything from the past that's bad is on God's believers. God's believers elected Obama... TWICE! So there are lots of things we can blame on God's believers. Atheists have still killed over 150 million people in the last century.
The abolition movement was started by Quaker ministers. The Civil Rights movement was led by Baptist ministers. Mormon's Helping Hands feeds more starving children than any entity on the planet. Second place goes to the Salvation Army. Which Atheist group is helping humanity? ...That's right, you have NO example.
So come on down off the self-righteous white horse, you look absolutely ridiculous up there.
Wow... Never took you to be a segregationist.
I often get pushed into theological defense of the Bible here because people somehow can't accept that I am not a Christian or religious follower, but I still believe in God. I can't really answer your questions about the Bible as well as PmP or others, but since you are addressing me, I will do my best to try.
According to the scripture, the world had become so vile and corrupt that God couldn't see another option. Now, we can see today where something like 10% of you are atheistic, just how much vile and hate you generate... I can only imagine a world where that was the "norm" and those who believed in God were killed.
This thread has been going on for months, and I doubt God has reached any hearts. You all seem to be pretty dead set on not allowing God into your heart. So what would have worked back then would be the same as now for you. Is there any way for God to reach your hearts? ...I suspect, seeing God's believers in a big giant boat being saved while water continues to rise and you drown, just might work to make you believe in God. Short of something like that, I don't see what other option God would have.
True, God (if he even existed) must be a really bad person.
Perhaps the truth is more simple than that and the story of Noah was based in part on fact, a natural disaster, with added explanations for its cause ( they best they could do is guess) and teaching for the survivors.
The meteor impact crater on the bottom of the Indian ocean that dates to the approximate time of the story of Gilgamesh could have easily caused the descriptions of the mind blowing destruction of a worldwide deluge. To any survivor it would have seemed that there was an angry God up there somewhere who must have decided to rid the world of bad people, because they were actually swept clean away and dead, and any survivors would have thought that they were somehow favored by this God because they survived.
Now I am not saying there is no God but claiming that God killed everyone according to the story of Noah because they were evil is as silly as claiming that God killed 225,000 people or more after the Indian ocean earthquake and ensuing tsunami because they were bad as if everyone doesn't eventually die from one thing or another.
I often get pushed into theological defense of the Bible here because people somehow can't accept that I am not a Christian or religious follower, but I still believe in God. I can't really answer your questions about the Bible as well as PmP or others, but since you are addressing me, I will do my best to try.
According to the scripture, the world had become so vile and corrupt that God couldn't see another option. Now, we can see today where something like 10% of you are atheistic, just how much vile and hate you generate... I can only imagine a world where that was the "norm" and those who believed in God were killed.
This thread has been going on for months, and I doubt God has reached any hearts. You all seem to be pretty dead set on not allowing God into your heart. So what would have worked back then would be the same as now for you. Is there any way for God to reach your hearts? ...I suspect, seeing God's believers in a big giant boat being saved while water continues to rise and you drown, just might work to make you believe in God. Short of something like that, I don't see what other option God would have.
Okay, maybe I should have said "bad entity". And I'm not talking about the things mankind has done "in the name of God." I'm talking about Bible stories (like Noah) in which God just wanted to destroy the earth or the fact that he sends people to a place to burn forever only for the reason that you do not believe in him/her/it. That are awful things to do, right? And according to your Holy Book it are things God did/is doing.
So they lied or made it up? Because today we know floods aren't caused by god(s). You do know that right?
