Why Do Whites Think They Can Tell Us What The Problems in Black America Are?

[Paul Essien]

DGS49
For those with even a passing interest and understanding of statistics, the existence of a few individuals who go against the statistical grain is not "disproof" of the reality, or anything like it. NOBODY is saying that there are not brilliant Blacks in REAL subjects (STEM, etc.), but they are exceedingly rare.

So what do you do with the millions of naturally dumb blk people (On av) ?

 

[mga138]

DGS49
For those with even a passing interest and understanding of statistics, the existence of a few individuals who go against the statistical grain is not "disproof" of the reality, or anything like it. NOBODY is saying that there are not brilliant Blacks in REAL subjects (STEM, etc.), but they are exceedingly rare.

So what do you do with the millions of naturally dumb blk people (On av) ?

My answer is to Stay away from them at every opportunity. We don't need or want them, and they are expendable burdens (for the most part). I think it is an act of great magnanimity for Whites to be willing to leave Blacks alone, to keep our distance, and to wish them success. Other groups of people wont be this gracious about these types of natural differences. Try the North East Asians, for instance. If the Chinese take over this country some day, I laugh to myself when I imagine a Black leader asking the Chinese for handouts over complains of disparities and insufficient equity. The disparities will be even more pronounced under a Chinese majority than under a morbidly altruistic White majority. The disparities between Black And Asian are already very wide, in fact, and that is with the Chinese still being a small minority of the population.

 

[Batcat]

I mean really? What in the hell makes a group of people with a history of enslavement , genocide and apartheid in order to achieve what they have belive they have been so sucessful that they can lecture others. Without enslavement, genocide and aparthied, whites in America would have very little, if anything.

People in this forum have the opinion that blacks should do things like whites and if we do so, we can make it in America. So then what we need to do is orchestate a bloody coup, confiscate all property owned by whites, jail all whites who oppose the coup, write a new constitution that declare citizenship and it's protection only for non whites, make whites chattel for the forseeable future, make it illegal for whites to reald, own property or access information and create laws where if whites get out of line they can be beaten and killed.

Because this is how whites have done it.

In another forum, I stated that the root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. One of the whites there decided to say this:

“The root cause of the problems faced by most blacks today are people like you who misidentify or ignore the real problems they face to further their own personal agendas.”

This is another of the long, long line of idiotic comments made by right wing whites. White racism was determined to be the problem 53 years ago by the Kerner Commission.

"What white Americans have never fully understood but what the Negro can never forget--is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it."

"White racism is essentially responsible for the explosive mixture which has been accumulating in our cities since the end of World War II."

But the excuse will be made about how that was 50 years ago, and that stupid ass song will be sung titled, "That was in the Past."

On February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission findings, the Economic Policy Institute published a report evaluating the progress of the black community since the Kerner Report was released. It was based on a study done by the Economic Policy Institute that compared the progress of the black community in 2018 with the condition of the black community at the time of the Kerner Commission. Titled “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” the study concluded that there had been some improvements in the situation blacks faced but there were still disadvantages blacks faced that were based on race.

Following up on this, Richard Rothstein of the Economic Policy Institute wrote an op-ed published in the February 28th edition of the New York Daily News titled, “50 years after the Kerner Commission, minimal racial progress.” It had been 50 years since the commission made their recommendations at that point, yet Rothstein makes this statement: “So little has changed since 1968 that the report remains worth reading as a near-contemporary description of racial inequality.”

So 3 years ago the same conclusion was made. "The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism."

On October 24, 2013, the Kellogg Foundation sent out a press release about a report they had done entitled, “The Business Case for Racial Equity”. This was a study done by the Kellogg Foundation, using information it had studied and assessed from the Center for American Progress, National Urban League Policy Institute, Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies and the U.S. Department of Justice.

“Striving for racial equity – a world where race is no longer a factor in the distribution of opportunity – is a matter of social justice. But moving toward racial equity can generate significant economic returns as well. When people face barriers to achieving their full potential, the loss of talent, creativity, energy, and productivity is a burden not only for those disadvantaged, but for communities, businesses, governments, and the economy as a whole. Initial research on the magnitude of this burden in the United States (U.S.), as highlighted in this brief, reveals impacts in the trillions of dollars in lost earnings, avoidable public expenditures, and lost economic output.”

The Kellogg Foundation and Altarum Institute

In 2011, DEMOS did a study named “The Racial Wealth Gap, Why Policy Matters”, which discussed the racial wealth gap, the problems associated with it along with solutions and outcomes if the gap did not exist. In this study DEMOS determined that the racial wealth gap was primarily driven by policy decisions.

“The U.S. racial wealth gap is substantial and is driven by public policy decisions. According to our analysis of the SIPP data, in 2011 the median white household had $111,146 in wealth holdings, compared to just $7,113 for the median Black household and $8,348 for the median Latino household. From the continuing impact of redlining on American homeownership to the retreat from desegregation in public education, public policy has shaped these disparities, leaving them impossible to overcome without racially-aware policy change.”

Harvard.

“Racial inequality in the United States today may, ultimately, be based on slavery, but it is also based on the failure of the country to take effective steps since slavery to undermine the structural racial inequality that slavery put in place. From the latter part of the nineteenth century through the first half of the twentieth century, the Jim Crow system continued to keep Blacks “in their place,” and even during and after the civil rights era no policies were adopted to dismantle the racial hierarchy that already existed.”

HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AS A BASIS FOR BLACK REPARATIONS, Jonathan Kaplan and Andrew Valls, Public Affairs Quarterly

Volume 21, Number 3, July 2007

McKinsey and Co.

“It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.”

Citigroup

Cost Of Racism: U.S. Economy Lost $16 Trillion Because Of Discrimination, Bank Says

Nationwide protests have cast a spotlight on racism and inequality in the United States. Now a major bank has put a price tag on how much the economy has lost as a result of discrimination against African Americans: $16 trillion.

Since 2000, U.S. gross domestic product lost that much as a result of discriminatory practices in a range of areas, including in education and access to business loans, according to a new study by Citigroup.

Specifically, the study came up with $16 trillion in lost GDP by noting four key racial gaps between African Americans and whites:

$13 trillion lost in potential business revenue because of discriminatory lending to African American entrepreneurs, with an estimated 6.1 million jobs not generated as a result

$2.7 trillion in income lost because of disparities in wages suffered by African Americans

$218 billion lost over the past two decades because of discrimination in providing housing credit

And $90 billion to $113 billion in lifetime income lost from discrimination in accessing higher education

Why this is just a bunch of liberal jibberish to to blacks in order to keep them voting democrat. Those aren't the problems, what we conservatives tell you is the real problem. Why if you just had a father in the home none of this would happen.

Black Workers Still Earn Less than Their White Counterparts

As employers in the U.S. tackle issues around racism, fresh attention is being given to the racial wage gap and why black men and women, in particular, still earn substantially less than their white counterparts. Nearly 56 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, "we find equal pay for equal work is still not a reality," noted Jackson Gruver, a data analyst at compensation data and software firm PayScale.

Last year, PayScale analyzed differences in earnings between white men and men of color using data from a sample of 1.8 million employees surveyed between January 2017 and February 2019.

Among the findings, Gruver reported: "Even as black or African-American men climb the corporate ladder, they still make less than equally qualified white men. They are the only racial/ethnic group that does not achieve pay parity with white men at some level."

The study found that black men had the largest "uncontrolled pay gap" relative to white men, when comparing the average earnings of black men and white men in the U.S.

On average, black men earned 87 cents for every dollar a white man earned. Hispanic workers had the next largest gap, earning 91 cents for every dollar earned by white men.

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To put that in perspective, the median salary of a white man in our sample is $72,900; the controlled median pay for black or African-American men is thus $71,500," Gruver said. "This suggests a $1,400 difference in pay that is likely attributable to race."

So daddy lives at home and the family still makes less than whites. Because:

NWLC calculations, based on the U.S. Census Bureau's Current Population Survey for 2016, revealed that when comparing all men and women who work full time, year-round in the U.S., women were paid just 80 cents for every dollar paid to their male counterparts. But the wage gap was even larger when looking specifically at black women who work full time, year-round—they were paid only 63 cents for every dollar paid to white, non-Hispanic men.

Stephen Miller, Black Workers Still Earn Less than Their White Counterparts, www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/compensation/pages/racial-wage-gaps-persistence-poses-challenge.aspx

So a white working couple will make 90 cents on every dollar while a black working couple makes 75 cents. To allow you to understand this reality a white female worker makes 80 cents on every dollar a white man makes. White females are demanding equal pay and rightfully so.

And you black folk really need to start taking education seriously.

Black unemployment is significantly higher than white unemployment regardless of educational attainment

The black unemployment rate is nearly or more than twice the white unemployment rate regardless of educational attainment. It is, and always has been, about twice the white unemployment rate; however, the depth of this racial inequality in the labor market rarely makes the headlines.

Over the last 12 months, the average unemployment rate for black college graduates has been 4.1 percent—nearly two times the average unemployment rate for white college graduates (2.4 percent) and equivalent to the unemployment rate of whites with an associate’s degree or who have not completed college (4.0 percent). The largest disparity is seen among those with less than a high school diploma: while whites with less than a high school diploma have an unemployment rate of 6.9 percent, the black unemployment rate is 16.6 percent—over two times the white average.

The broader significance of this disparity suggests a race penalty whereby blacks at each level of education have unemployment rates that are the same as or higher than less educated whites.

Valerie Wilson, Black unemployment is significantly higher than white unemployment regardless of educational attainment, www.epi.org/publication/black-unemployment-educational-attainment/

African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level

While the economy continues to improve and wages are finally beginning to inch up for most Americans, African Americans are still being paid less than whites at every education level. As you can see from the chart below, while a college education results in higher wages—both for whites and blacks—it does not eliminate the black-white wage gap. African Americans are still earning less than whites at every level of educational attainment. A recent EPI report, Black-white wage gaps expand with rising wage inequality, shows that this gap persists even after controlling for years of experience, region of the country, and whether one lives in an urban or rural area. In fact, since 1979, the gaps between black and white workers have grown the most among workers with a bachelor’s degree or higher—the most educated workers.

Valerie Wilson, African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level, www.epi.org/publication/african-americans-are-paid-less-than-whites-at-every-education-level/

But to say white racism is the cause of things no matter how much proof we show your white asses, you have some kind of idiotic ass excuse, like we are blaming whites for our failures or;

We misdiagnose and ignore the "real" problem to fit an imaginary agenda racists in tha white community invented so they can deny how THEY are the root cause of the problem.

You right wing scrubs are always talking about responsibility.

Take some instead of running your mouths.

So why don’t the blacks do something to overcome the problems in their neighborhoods?

One thing I have suggested in the past is to form your own political party. Why live on the Democratic Plantation which is run by white men when you can move out and form your own party and elect your party members to Congress.

You would have both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party kissing your butts to get your votes so they could pass the legislation they want. You might not have all that many representatives in the House or Senators but they would be a very powerful block of votes.

I know. It is much easier and far more fun to blame the evil white man for all your problems. That way you really don’t have to address the failure of the schools in your neighborhoods or why drug gangs run wild, shooting and killing each other and innocent bystanders.

If you ever do what I suggest (which of course you won’t) make damn sure your party isn’t run by white men.

 

[IM2]

So why don’t the blacks do something to overcome the problems in their neighborhoods?

One thing I have suggested in the past is to form your own political party. Why live on the Democratic Plantation which is run by white men when you can move out and form your own party and elect your party members to Congress.

You would have both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party kissing your butts to get your votes so they could pass the legislation they want. You might not have all that many representatives in the House or Senators but they would be a very powerful block of votes.

I know. It is much easier and far more fun to blame the evil white man for all your problems. That way you really don’t have to address the failure of the schools in your neighborhoods or why drug gangs run wild, shooting and killing each other and innocent bystanders.

If you ever do what I suggest (which of course you won’t) make damn sure your party isn’t run by white men.

If the problem is rooted in white racism and whites control the institutions then the problems will continue. Apparently you have never stepped foot in a bank to ask them to donate to a black community organization. Now before you try asking the next stupid question or have the next remark on what you think blacks should do or how we should not depend on whites, understand that money from blacks sit in white baks and that money goes primarily to white community and economic development.

There is no democratic plantation and as long as white republicans keep making comments like this blacks will keep believing that republicans are racist. Blacks tried forming a politifcal party in the 1990's. And you don't seem to understand the history of inaction blacks endured when we solidly supported the republican party from 1865-1964.

So if republicans want black votes you have got to earn them through action like the democrats have done. Democrats desegregated the military. A democrat signed the voting rights act and the majority of votrs for the civil and voting rights acts were democrat. The democratic party nominated and worked to get a black president elected twice. Meanwhile republicans have voted against vhoting rights twice in the last 3 years.

So just stop lying about a democratic plantation because the real plantation is what the republicans want us to return to.

 

[JohnReese]

So why don’t the blacks do something to overcome the problems in their neighborhoods?

One thing I have suggested in the past is to form your own political party. Why live on the Democratic Plantation which is run by white men when you can move out and form your own party and elect your party members to Congress.

You would have both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party kissing your butts to get your votes so they could pass the legislation they want. You might not have all that many representatives in the House or Senators but they would be a very powerful block of votes.

I know. It is much easier and far more fun to blame the evil white man for all your problems. That way you really don’t have to address the failure of the schools in your neighborhoods or why drug gangs run wild, shooting and killing each other and innocent bystanders.

If you ever do what I suggest (which of course you won’t) make damn sure your party isn’t run by white men.

The OP is living in the past.

 

[JohnReese]

To the OP, how about blaming yourselves and not the white man!

 

[IM2]

The OP is living in the past.

No, I'm living in 2021. White racism exists right now and in this forum.

 

[IM2]

To the OP, how about blaming yourselves and not the white man!

Because the root cause of our problem is the racism of whites.

How about you face the truth and change things?

 

[Paul Essien]

mga138
Whites to be willing to leave Blacks alone, to keep our distance, and to wish them success.

So after all the talk. Do nothing ?

 

[Paul Essien]

To the OP, how about blaming yourselves and not the white man!

Not blaming the white man. It's the system.

My point is that white people the likes of Meathead mga138 Canon Shooter or MarathonMike need to stop thinking that they are inferior to black men because that is what racism is truly about that you think you need a system of advantage to be able to compete with black men and compete head to head.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Not blaming the white man. It's the system.

My point is that white people the likes of Meathead mga138 Canon Shooter or MarathonMike need to stop thinking that they are inferior to black men because that is what racism is truly about that you think you need a system of advantage to be able to compete with black men and compete head to head.

Trust me, boy, I've never met a negro I felt was superior to me...

 

[Canon Shooter]

Apparently you have never stepped foot in a bank to ask them to donate to a black community organization.

Yeah, a bank would never invest in negro causes.

You know, except for this: Citi Launches More Than $1 Billion in Strategic Initiatives to Help Close the Racial Wealth Gap

You should shut the fuck up instead of spewing your nonsensical bullshit. You're nothing but a whiny, lying negro...

 

[Juicin]

Because the root cause of our problem is the racism of whites.

How about you face the truth and change things?

This is so delusional and feminine. Discrimination should not cause the total collapse of a people

Have you read any history of any other immigrant group in this country? The JewS? Japanese? Vietnamese?

Europeans have been trying to purge them on and off for centuries. They survive. Chinese and Japanese immigrants have succeeded for a very long time here. Even after internment

THere are only two groups in America that have done well. And in 2021 it's their fault.

You refuse to assimilate, and black culture produces worse economic outcomes. Same for natives on reservations.

If you don't assimilate and decide to have your own shitty subculture. How is that on the whites? They have been willing to assimilate you for our lifetime.

 

[JohnReese]

Not blaming the white man. It's the system.

My point is that white people the likes of Meathead mga138 Canon Shooter or MarathonMike need to stop thinking that they are inferior to black men because that is what racism is truly about that you think you need a system of advantage to be able to compete with black men and compete head to head.

The system is not racist to blacks. They have it easier than we whites in society.

 

[JohnReese]

Because the root cause of our problem is the racism of whites.

How about you face the truth and change things?

Blaming my race for your people's shortcomings is so racist.

 

[JohnReese]

No, I'm living in 2021. White racism exists right now and in this forum.

White racism is a myth. In,21 you guys have it easier than us.

 

[Paul Essien]

Yeah, a bank would never invest in negro causes.

You know, except for this: Citi Launches More Than $1 Billion in Strategic Initiatives to Help Close the Racial Wealth Gap

You should shut the fuck up instead of spewing your nonsensical bullshit. You're nothing but a whiny, lying negro...

All white men especially white supremacists) believe they are inferior to black men. That's why they do this overtop, trying act like they are superior act, it's all a front to disguise their beliefs of inferiority they have towards black men.

 

[Paul Essien]

White racism is a myth. In,21 you guys have it easier than us.

You could have pointed to the same things 55 years ago. 55 years ago we had Muhammad Ali. Sidney Poiter making movies. Sammy Davis JnR, Louis Armstrong etc. But 55 years ago the USA was burning to the ground due to all the race riots. MLK, Martin Luther, Malcolm X, Black Panthers were fighting for justice

Look.

White people have never minded being entertained by black people

Even at the height of racism this was the case.

 

[22lcidw]

Because the root cause of our problem is the racism of whites.

How about you face the truth and change things?

Internally...improve school education with a push. Reduce the amount of children born out of wedlock and to single teenagers. And to reduce the Prog Socialist Women in power with the advantage of getting the good jobs to males. With minority males getting a true heads up. This will rest us into something sane.

 

[Canon Shooter]

All white men especially white supremacists) believe they are inferior to black men. That's why they do this overtop, trying act like they are superior act, it's all a front to disguise their beliefs of inferiority they have towards black men.

LOL!!!

You're one funny lawn jockey, I'll give ya' that.

I know, when it comes to negroes like you, I don't have to act superior. I know I am. Now, you would say the reason for that is race. But the reason is character. You see, you have none. You commented about banks not wanting to help negro causes. I showed you one example, with over $1 billion being invested in negro communities, and like a fucking coward you don't even mention it, because it proves you wrong.

You are wrong in eery aspect of your life. Your opinions are stupid and wrong. Your beliefs are stupid and wrong.

But I like the way you dance, negro. It's entertaining. Dance some more...