Zone1 Why do you need gods?

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and for the transfer from one to the other ...

- the moment of singularity, the cyclical bb is for that outcome a new time frame - for what exists, eternally.

Energy and matter are equivalent. That was the whole point of e=mc^2.

 

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It simply connects us illogical beings to the logical universe....whether we like it or not.

If Karma results in consistent outcomes then it is behaving in a controlled fashion and follows logic, right?

 

[Synthaholic]

oh, DURRRRRR ...

Got something to say?

 

[BackAgain]

I don’t contribute much to religious conversations mostly because I’m not very religious and also because it is too easy to cause others to be offended. So, I’ll just offer this crumb and move along:

Why would any religion believe that an all powerful creator would have any need of being worshipped?

 

[Road Runner]

Cool story.

Incorrect. It's an observation. No judging of the person necessary.

You don't believe God exists because you believe God is a meanie. (observation)
You believe God is a meanie because you are a bad person. (judgement)

See the difference?

No?

You don't believe God exists because you believe God is a meanie. (observation)
You believe God is a meanie because you are an idiot. (judgement)
You believe God is a meanie because you are reading the bible wrong. (observation)

Now do you understand the difference between an observation and a judgement?

So with their kind of logic does that mean that Satan doesn't exist as well? He's not only mean,.. he's evil.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

What exactly do you believe creates space time if not the creation of energy and mass? Spacetime is a consequence of the presence of matter and energy.

I am not saying you are "wrong", I'm just asking you for some actual scientific citation. I honestly don't know and I'm reasonably certain you don't either. You have a penchant for empty new-agey type statements, so I'm looking for something I can trust in that statement.

Thanks.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Cool story.

Your "opinion" (or rather lack thereof) is noted.

Incorrect. It's an observation. No judging of the person necessary.

As per usual you don't seem to really know how language works.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

In a closed universe the gravitational energy which is always negative exactly compensates the positive energy of matter. So the energy of a closed universe is always zero. So nothing prevents this universe from being spontaneously created. Because the net energy is always zero. The positive energy of matter is balanced by the negative energy of the gravity of that matter which is the space time curvature of that matter.

Cool. Doesn't say what you have claimed (matter and energy create spacetime) but it is a lot of fancy words that you don't understand either.

 

[Blues Man]

I don’t contribute much to religious conversations mostly because I’m not very religious and also because it is too easy to cause others to be offended. So, I’ll just offer this crumb and move along:

Why would any religion believe that an all powerful creator would have any need of being worshipped?

And what does it say about any all powerful creator who creates beings so he can be worshipped by them?

Either way you slice it we are but mere pets

 

[BreezeWood]

and for the transfer from one to the other ...

- the moment of singularity, the cyclical bb is for that outcome a new time frame - for what exists, eternally.

Energy and matter are equivalent. That was the whole point of e=mc^2.

your equation is not relative -

somewhere the discussion was for units of time ...

 

[Meriweather]

Why would any religion believe that an all powerful creator would have any need of being worshipped?

It helps to consider the original meanings and usage of the word. For example, we all 'worship' money, because we all acknowledge its worth. In the original Hebrew, it includes the element of thankfulness. Along with this, it is what we put first.

For example, we could ask a miser, "Why do you worship (place first) money? Money has no need of being placed first in your life. Money does not need you."

 

[BreezeWood]

Got something to say?

sure ...

just not socialism being responsible for mass executions in the last 100 years as being equivalent to the uninterrupted terrorism of the desert religions ...

throughout the ages they have existed.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

And what does it say about any all powerful creator who creates beings so he can be worshipped by them?

God is very much like a human. He has needs and he can even be sad about his actions (Gen 6:6). He can be "pleased" (Colossians 3:18). He's just a dude in the sky with lots of magical powers. But he has the same passions we do.

I wonder why that is. I assume it is because We are made in God's image, not the t'other way 'round. How else could you POSSIBLY explain it?

 

[Blues Man]

God is very much like a human. He has needs and he can even be sad about his actions (Gen 6:6). He can be "pleased" (Colossians 3:18). He's just a dude in the sky with lots of magical powers. But he has the same passions we do.

I wonder why that is. I assume it is because We are made in God's image, not the t'other way 'round. How else could you POSSIBLY explain it?

Basic megalomania.

Which means we were created to fulfill the needs of an omniscient, omnipotent, immortal. Talk about being set up to fail.

I have to wonder why this god humans worship didn't just create another omniscient, omnipotent immortal companion instead of us mere mortals.

 

[Blues Man]

It helps to consider the original meanings and usage of the word. For example, we all 'worship' money, because we all acknowledge its worth. In the original Hebrew, it includes the element of thankfulness. Along with this, it is what we put first.

For example, we could ask a miser, "Why do you worship (place first) money? Money has no need of being placed first in your life. Money does not need you."

An omnipotent, omniscient immortal doesn't need humans either.

 

[BreezeWood]

God is very much like a human. He has needs and he can even be sad about his actions (Gen 6:6). He can be "pleased" (Colossians 3:18). He's just a dude in the sky with lots of magical powers. But he has the same passions we do.

I wonder why that is. I assume it is because We are made in God's image, not the t'other way 'round. How else could you POSSIBLY explain it?

so true ... our image -

creating the physiology would be nothing compared to adding the spiritual content necessary for its existence to evolve ...

 

[toobfreak]

Why do people have a need to believe in gods?

Because at best, Gods are very real, at least to those convinced of them, and at the very worst they provide a moral compass to guide human civilization based on centuries of ethical and historical understanding that nothing in nature operates in harmony and balance with the rest of nature without some governing force acting as a restraint against destructive behavior.

And the very proof of that is watching how as God and religion are now pushed by the Atheistocracy farther and farther into the background of society, crime, lasciviousness and debauchery are on the rise.

 

[Meriweather]

An omnipotent, omniscient immortal doesn't need humans either.

Nor do I need my daughters. They are a blessing.

Not only does God bless us, we bless Him. We are blessings to each other, more than being needful of each other.

 

[BackAgain]

And what does it say about any all powerful creator who creates beings so he can be worshipped by them?

Either way you slice it we are but mere pets

I speculate that we aren’t even that close to the Creator. I assume that we are more akin to things He would study on a slide under a microscope in a lab if He were so inclined.

 

[ding]

I don’t contribute much to religious conversations mostly because I’m not very religious and also because it is too easy to cause others to be offended. So, I’ll just offer this crumb and move along:

Why would any religion believe that an all powerful creator would have any need of being worshipped?

I don't think he does. Worship is for our benefit.