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The disagreement between protestants and Catholics is about God's grace not man's faith.
Protestants believe that God's grace alone is what "saves" us (whatever that means). The Catholic position is that God's grace is what inspires us to do good works. Grace and works are integrally linked together and cannot be separated.
Is a formal argument (debate) better than a discussion? How so?I hope I've been clear here (but I sense some of you on here never actually "debate" theology
'Potemkin villages'? I need a more precise description of these.
Is love real? Is goodness real? If one feels these are real, one can give them.
I have great faith in God--and that He is, indeed, rational.
No.You cannot eliminate the Bible from Christianity. That is precisely what you have suggested here.
I get these points and perspectives.(I hope, hope, hope you get the point of my posts at this point since I can't really make it any simpler for you)
I notice, through free will, we become co-creators of ourselves.It is, sadly, as God made me.
And if we want to worship, we know exactly how. It is what we make of ourselves.If he wants me to worship him, he knows exactly how to get that. And HE is the one who made me this way.
Then you assume wrong. I function quite well just being me. I share who I currently am with God. He gets to be who He IS; I get to be who I am--a work in progress.It appears to me YOU have thoughts as well. I assume that you are of the opinion that your thoughts are more in line with God's thoughts. How else could you function?
Listen to God first.Can you understand my point? Just try. Just for a second, pray to God to forgive you for blasphemous thoughts for a second and try: I am working from the CLEARLY STATED FACTS of NUMEROUS Christians sects that tell me that if I fail to please God or "accept his gift" or whatever, there will be literal hell to pay.
Listen to God first.
I would never describe God as a "cool dude". Try Healer. I have noticed with really important things, He takes His time, but so worth the wait.Here you are telling me that GOd's a cool dude! He would never take someone for whom faith is pain and damn them to hell! That would be immensely cruel.
I would never describe God as a "cool dude". Try Healer. I have noticed with really important things, He takes His time, but so worth the wait.
In fact, more fully grounded in the Bible, but that should not be scary.But you're just one person with a version of God that seems largely made up. Ungrounded in the Bible or at least partially divorced from. That's attractive.
Getting to know the Hebrew and Middle Eastern culture is not using a scalpel--more like using a microscope. There is so much to see!And the same Bible you have taken a scalpel to tells me that narrow is the path to God and wide and easy is the path to perdition.
In fact, more fully grounded in the Bible, but that should not be scary.
May I just note how much I LOVE LOVE LOVE the fact that you have completely ignored the issue of "scrupulosity".
Just love it.
It feels like the way you solve difficult problems is simply to "ignore them".
Getting to know the Hebrew and Middle Eastern culture is not using a scalpel--more like using a microscope. There is so much to see!
There is a hard way....Learn another language. Study other cultures and their histories. That is the long and arduous way. Takes decades.And the same Bible you have taken a scalpel to tells me that narrow is the path to God and wide and easy is the path to perdition.
You find it that difficult to love and care for someone with this disease? Why not ask that God expand your love of your fellowman to include this person?Why would God allow a disease to exist that one is likely born with, that turns "faith" into a torture?
