Why do you need guns?

[eagle1462010]

And according to them, if you have a smoke detector you are simply being paranoid.....

Well they are Moonbats lol

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yes....for example...

Example #1....

Well, I am a single woman and I don't want to be kidnapped, raped, tortured, then murdered.......either in my home or from a public place....

British police....your license is rejected because self defense is not a legitimate reason to own a gun...

Example #2....

Well, as a member of the House of Lords, I and several of my wealthy friends want to go bird hunting on one of my several estates in the country......I also like to collect guns....

British police....here you are guv......here's your license, have a day, say no more.....



This makes sense to you, you fascist....?

Women in America don't carry guns against rape, it was covered in the, "Self Defence Fallacy" thread. Has that exited your head already!!!!!!! You need something in there to stop information and facts.

Correct, I did pheasant shooting and went clay pigeon shooting, hence why I had shot guns. But now I just go to the North Lakes with my lads on an ad hoc basis and hire the Berrettas when clay pigeon shooting.

The least suitable candidate to own a gun is a one who wants it for self defence, they're a danger to society. Hence why America suffers thousands of gun deaths per month.

 

[2aguy]

Women in America don't carry guns against rape, it was covered in the, "Self Defence Fallacy" thread. Has that exited your head already!!!!!!! You need something in there to stop information and facts.

Correct, I did pheasant shooting and went clay pigeon shooting, hence why I had shot guns. But now I just go to the North Lakes with my lads on an ad hoc basis and hire the Berrettas when clay pigeon shooting.

The least suitable candidate to own a gun is a one who wants it for self defence, they're a danger to society. Hence why America suffers thousands of gun deaths per month.

Thank you for at least being honest....too many of your fellow fascists want to hide their gun grabbing ways.....

Knowing what you are, and what you want, makes it easier to fight against you.......


Yeah...they do.....they used to be the group with the lowest gun ownership rate...that is changing and more and more American women are not only keeping a gun in the home, they are carrying them against people like you.........

Lancaster Woman Scares Off Bat-Wielding Attackers By Pulling Gun On Them

LANCASTER, Ohio - It happened along a walking path in Lancaster.

Dinah Burns is licensed to carry a concealed gun, but she'd only recently started taking her weapon while walking her dog.

Based on what happened, it looks like she'll make a point of carrying from now on.

"I think if they'd gotten any closer, I probably would have fired,” said Burns.

It was Monday when Burns was on a footpath near Sanderson Elementary School.

"Two gentlemen came out of the woods, one holding a baseball bat, and said 'You're coming with us'."

The men weren't deterred by Dinah's dog Gracie.

"I said, 'Well, what do you want?,' and as I was saying that I reached in to my pocket and slipped my gun out, slipped the safety off as I pulled it out. As I was doing that the other gentleman came toward me and raised the baseball bat. And, I pointed the gun at them and said, 'I have this and I'm not afraid to use it.'"

The men took off and so far have eluded police. Dinah posted about the incident on Facebook to alert friends and neighbors, to criticism by some.

"Most of the males' opinion was, 'Why didn't you shoot them?'"

Easy to second-guess a decision made under pressure, based on her concealed carry training, and police agree.

"To get out of a situation, back out, get out of it as much as you can without having to discharge your firearm."

"I will say it's a good thing to go from a place of danger to a place of safety, however you get that done,” said Sgt. Matt Chambers, Lancaster Police.

"Very thankful that it turned out the way it did, and hope it doesn't happen again, but I will be prepared."
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What I want you to know on Gun Violence Awareness Day | Fox News

What I want you to know on Gun Violence Awareness Day

I correctly listened to my instincts; I had a feeling that my life was in danger in that elevator and prepared myself mentally for what was potentially to come.

I ran to my car in an attempt to escape and, before I could even get my entire body in my car, I was tackled by my attacker.

This man quickly overpowered me, stabbed at me with a knife, clamped his hand over my mouth multiple times, and repeatedly tried forcing me in the passenger seat of my car while telling me, “We’re going.”

The entire time this was happening, a rusted, serrated knife was being stabbed towards my abdomen and held at my face.

I had been hit in the face, thrown over my driver’s side console, and had rips in my tights from his hands trying to force my legs up and over into the passenger seat.

There are some individuals that think gun owners are “trigger happy” and wanting to pull their weapons out at the first opportunity. There is nothing further from the truth.

The night I was attacked, I fought like hell for my life before reaching for my gun. I kicked, I screamed, I had all ten fingernails ripped off and bloodied from scratching and trying to fight my way out of a literal life and death situation.

Ultimately, I accessed my gun, shot my attacker multiple times, and saved my life. He will be spending years in prison for what he did to me.

Using a gun in self-protection is not a decision one makes lightly; in fact, I never dreamed that I would be forced into a situation where I would have to do so. However, I also never imagined such evil existing in the world so that I would be powerless, wounded, on my back and unable to physically force my attacker off of me.

I owned a gun and had been trained on how to use it. I know how to safely carry and that a gun is a serious and significant weapon; it is not to be used carelessly. Naysayers and people with opposing opinions may try to undermine my situation with hypotheticals. I cannot answer these questions. All I can do is tell the facts of my story and the true account of how I saved my own life.

What I want you to know on Gun Awareness Day is that a gun in the hands of a potential victim is not improperly placed; it can be the only thing keeping her from being brutally raped and murdered.

Without my gun, I would not be alive today.


Guns are not the problem in America; men like my attacker -- who are willing to violently change one person’s life for no reason except for pure evil – are the problem.

Be safe at all times. Be aware of your surroundings. Trust your instincts. Always be able to protect yourself. Refuse to be a victim, and instead be a fighter and a survivor. Live to tell your tale and make a criminal regret the day he chose you as a “soft target.” My gun saved my life, and one could save yours too.
===============

Waking up to an armed intruder in your house would be any home owner’s worst nightmare. If you’re a single mother with two young kids in the house, finding a man wielding a machete in your bedroom closet immediately kicks you into “momma bear” mode.

That’s what happened to a California woman who woke up to the sound of a man rummaging through her walk-in closet. The thief — Ocean Burger (his name, not a restaurant) — was armed with a number of knives and a machete when the un-named woman grabbed a handgun and confronted him.

From ksbw.com . . .


[Investigators] say Burger ignored orders to leave and when the homeowner fired several warning shots he allegedly advanced towards her, that’s when the mother fired at the accused burglar hitting him in the leg. And California law may be on her side.

Warning shots are never a good idea and could even put you in legal jeopardy in many jurisdictions. In this case, they not only wasted perfectly good (and expensive) ammunition, but probably led Burger to believe she wasn’t serious about actually shooting him.

After advancing on the woman, the round in his leg apparently convinced Burger that he was wrong.

The good news is California actually has a castle doctrine law on the books. The woman had no duty to retreat and was legally justified in using deadly force to defend herself and her children.

“There is a presumption that favors the homeowner they’re presumed that the person is in imminent fear of either death or great bodily injury,” said Ellen Campos, assistant district attorney for San Benito county. …

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/california-woman-shoots-machete-wielding-burglar-she-found-in-her-closet/
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[Captain Caveman]

Thank you for at least being honest....too many of your fellow fascists want to hide their gun grabbing ways.....

Knowing what you are, and what you want, makes it easier to fight against you.......


Yeah...they do.....they used to be the group with the lowest gun ownership rate...that is changing and more and more American women are not only keeping a gun in the home, they are carrying them against people like you.........

Lancaster Woman Scares Off Bat-Wielding Attackers By Pulling Gun On Them

LANCASTER, Ohio - It happened along a walking path in Lancaster.

Dinah Burns is licensed to carry a concealed gun, but she'd only recently started taking her weapon while walking her dog.

Based on what happened, it looks like she'll make a point of carrying from now on.

"I think if they'd gotten any closer, I probably would have fired,” said Burns.

It was Monday when Burns was on a footpath near Sanderson Elementary School.

"Two gentlemen came out of the woods, one holding a baseball bat, and said 'You're coming with us'."

The men weren't deterred by Dinah's dog Gracie.

"I said, 'Well, what do you want?,' and as I was saying that I reached in to my pocket and slipped my gun out, slipped the safety off as I pulled it out. As I was doing that the other gentleman came toward me and raised the baseball bat. And, I pointed the gun at them and said, 'I have this and I'm not afraid to use it.'"

The men took off and so far have eluded police. Dinah posted about the incident on Facebook to alert friends and neighbors, to criticism by some.

"Most of the males' opinion was, 'Why didn't you shoot them?'"

Easy to second-guess a decision made under pressure, based on her concealed carry training, and police agree.

"To get out of a situation, back out, get out of it as much as you can without having to discharge your firearm."

"I will say it's a good thing to go from a place of danger to a place of safety, however you get that done,” said Sgt. Matt Chambers, Lancaster Police.

"Very thankful that it turned out the way it did, and hope it doesn't happen again, but I will be prepared."
========
What I want you to know on Gun Violence Awareness Day | Fox News

What I want you to know on Gun Violence Awareness Day

I correctly listened to my instincts; I had a feeling that my life was in danger in that elevator and prepared myself mentally for what was potentially to come.

I ran to my car in an attempt to escape and, before I could even get my entire body in my car, I was tackled by my attacker.

This man quickly overpowered me, stabbed at me with a knife, clamped his hand over my mouth multiple times, and repeatedly tried forcing me in the passenger seat of my car while telling me, “We’re going.”

The entire time this was happening, a rusted, serrated knife was being stabbed towards my abdomen and held at my face.

I had been hit in the face, thrown over my driver’s side console, and had rips in my tights from his hands trying to force my legs up and over into the passenger seat.

There are some individuals that think gun owners are “trigger happy” and wanting to pull their weapons out at the first opportunity. There is nothing further from the truth.

The night I was attacked, I fought like hell for my life before reaching for my gun. I kicked, I screamed, I had all ten fingernails ripped off and bloodied from scratching and trying to fight my way out of a literal life and death situation.

Ultimately, I accessed my gun, shot my attacker multiple times, and saved my life. He will be spending years in prison for what he did to me.

Using a gun in self-protection is not a decision one makes lightly; in fact, I never dreamed that I would be forced into a situation where I would have to do so. However, I also never imagined such evil existing in the world so that I would be powerless, wounded, on my back and unable to physically force my attacker off of me.

I owned a gun and had been trained on how to use it. I know how to safely carry and that a gun is a serious and significant weapon; it is not to be used carelessly. Naysayers and people with opposing opinions may try to undermine my situation with hypotheticals. I cannot answer these questions. All I can do is tell the facts of my story and the true account of how I saved my own life.

What I want you to know on Gun Awareness Day is that a gun in the hands of a potential victim is not improperly placed; it can be the only thing keeping her from being brutally raped and murdered.

Without my gun, I would not be alive today.


Guns are not the problem in America; men like my attacker -- who are willing to violently change one person’s life for no reason except for pure evil – are the problem.

Be safe at all times. Be aware of your surroundings. Trust your instincts. Always be able to protect yourself. Refuse to be a victim, and instead be a fighter and a survivor. Live to tell your tale and make a criminal regret the day he chose you as a “soft target.” My gun saved my life, and one could save yours too.
===============

Waking up to an armed intruder in your house would be any home owner’s worst nightmare. If you’re a single mother with two young kids in the house, finding a man wielding a machete in your bedroom closet immediately kicks you into “momma bear” mode.

That’s what happened to a California woman who woke up to the sound of a man rummaging through her walk-in closet. The thief — Ocean Burger (his name, not a restaurant) — was armed with a number of knives and a machete when the un-named woman grabbed a handgun and confronted him.

From ksbw.com . . .


[Investigators] say Burger ignored orders to leave and when the homeowner fired several warning shots he allegedly advanced towards her, that’s when the mother fired at the accused burglar hitting him in the leg. And California law may be on her side.

Warning shots are never a good idea and could even put you in legal jeopardy in many jurisdictions. In this case, they not only wasted perfectly good (and expensive) ammunition, but probably led Burger to believe she wasn’t serious about actually shooting him.

After advancing on the woman, the round in his leg apparently convinced Burger that he was wrong.

The good news is California actually has a castle doctrine law on the books. The woman had no duty to retreat and was legally justified in using deadly force to defend herself and her children.

“There is a presumption that favors the homeowner they’re presumed that the person is in imminent fear of either death or great bodily injury,” said Ellen Campos, assistant district attorney for San Benito county. …

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/california-woman-shoots-machete-wielding-burglar-she-found-in-her-closet/
=============

No one is grabbing guns, you can have guns as long as you are suitable, you have a valid reason why, and they're not carried in a public place. So you can enjoy guns and stop blasting the kids away. Normally the Right Wing want to stop abortion to save baby lives, then in the same breath, you're blasting them away at school. Gun nuts are pretty fucked up in the head.

 

[2aguy]

No one is grabbing guns, you can have guns as long as you are suitable, you have a valid reason why, and they're not carried in a public place. So you can enjoy guns and stop blasting the kids away. Normally the Right Wing want to stop abortion to save baby lives, then in the same breath, you're blasting them away at school. Gun nuts are pretty fucked up in the head.

We aren't blasing kids....the nuts that were ignored by your government angels did that once this year.......out of 330 million people...

Meanwhile,

No one is grabbing guns, you can have guns as long as you are suitable, you have a valid reason why, and they're not carried in a public place. So you can enjoy guns and stop blasting the kids away. Normally the Right Wing want to stop abortion to save baby lives, then in the same breath, you're blasting them away at school. Gun nuts are pretty fucked up in the head.

Over 21.52 million Americans carry guns in public for self defense.....they are not shooting people with their legal guns....

The violent, dangerous criminals the democrat party keeps releasing from jail and prison, who can't buy, own or carry guns....are the ones shooting people...yet the democrats keep letting them out....makes one wonder if they are doing that on purpose...

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[daveman]

When applying for a shot gun licence or a firearms certificate in the UK, you are interviewed by the police and they ask you, "Why do you need such and such gun". So if you're part a shoot (pheasant etc..), or a member of a gun range, or you work on a farm etc.., or basically it's a valid reason, then you have no problems (assuming your background check and referee (s) check out).

If you say, in case there's an intruder and I want to shoot them, or, take it down the high street for self defence, consider your application to be denied and a note on police file that you're not suitable to have a gun.

There it is, folks. Great Britain was once a planetary empire. Now they refuse to let good people defend themselves from criminals.

England is lost, and good riddance.

 

[eagle1462010]

There it is, folks. Great Britain was once a planetary empire. Now they refuse to let good people defend themselves from criminals.

England is lost, and good riddance.

Churchill and Thatcher have rolled over in their graves.

 

[daveman]

Women in America don't carry guns against rape, it was covered in the, "Self Defence Fallacy" thread. Has that exited your head already!!!!!!! You need something in there to stop information and facts.

Correct, I did pheasant shooting and went clay pigeon shooting, hence why I had shot guns. But now I just go to the North Lakes with my lads on an ad hoc basis and hire the Berrettas when clay pigeon shooting.

The least suitable candidate to own a gun is a one who wants it for self defence, they're a danger to society. Hence why America suffers thousands of gun deaths per month.

I'm convinced every gun-grabber has fantasies of being someone's prison bitch. You all love criminals so much.

 

[Pellinore]

There it is, folks. Great Britain was once a planetary empire. Now they refuse to let good people defend themselves from criminals.

England is lost, and good riddance.

The UK has a homicide rate less than a quarter of ours. I think they'll be fine.

 

[2aguy]

The UK has a homicide rate less than a quarter of ours. I think they'll be fine.

Now....but the British police state they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns onto their tiny island, and the drug trade in Britain is now controlled by 3rd world immigrant gangs who don't care about british culture or laws.....

You, and they, think criminals don't evolve.....you will learn your mistake...

 

[daveman]

The UK has a homicide rate less than a quarter of ours. I think they'll be fine.

No, they won't. They'd rather let barbarians rape their children and women than have anyone call them racist. Now they're saying people should sacrifice themselves and their families to criminals.

The strongest and best Brits died in WWII. The current crop isn't fit to polish the Greatest Generation's shoes.

 

[Woodznutz]

The gun nuts always run away from the practical aspect of their hobby. They don't need guns for anything other than to feel like they something more than just another everyday nobody.

If you reduced all property to absolute needs in today's world, guns would certainly be a primary need.

 

[Blues Man]

The UK has a homicide rate less than a quarter of ours. I think they'll be fine.

The UK murder rate is about what it was on the 1950's before they passed all their draconian gun laws in the 60's

The Us murder rate is about what it was in the 1950's despite the 10 year AWB and literally tens of thousands of gun laws passed since then

Gun laws have very little or no effect on the murder rate.

Can you figure out why?

 

[Canon Shooter]

No one is grabbing guns, you can have guns as long as you are suitable, you have a valid reason why, and they're not carried in a public place. So you can enjoy guns and stop blasting the kids away. Normally the Right Wing want to stop abortion to save baby lives, then in the same breath, you're blasting them away at school. Gun nuts are pretty fucked up in the head.

You're mentally retarded, aren't you?

 

[Canon Shooter]

There have been two instances in which I've used my legally carried firearm to defend myself and my loved one. In only one of those instances did I have to discharge the weapon.

If that qualifies me as being a "gun nut" in the opinion of some left-wing pussy, I really couldn't give a fuck.

I will never not have a gun. Period.

 

[Captain Caveman]

You're mentally retarded, aren't you?

Nope, you're a hard man, solid bone from the neck up.

 

[Captain Caveman]

There have been two instances in which I've used my legally carried firearm to defend myself and my loved one. In only one of those instances did I have to discharge the weapon.

If that qualifies me as being a "gun nut" in the opinion of some left-wing pussy, I really couldn't give a fuck.

I will never not have a gun. Period.

Your medal is in the post, faggot, that's assuming you're not talking bolloxs, which is likely you are.

A gun nut is a nut who's religion is guns and falls for the fallacies surrounding guns. They feel they're the good guy, when actually many are not suitable to own a firearm based on their rhetoric here.

Covert posting is a pussy coward faggot tactic, so you'll use that a lot.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Your medal is in the post, faggot, that's assuming you're not talking bolloxs, which is likely you are.

A gun nut is a nut who's religion is guns and falls for the fallacies surrounding guns. They feel they're the good guy, when actually many are not suitable to own a firearm based on their rhetoric here.

Covert posting is a pussy coward faggot tactic, so you'll use that a lot.

"Covert posting"? What the fuck are you talking about? There's nothing "covert" about how I post. I'm in your face, all the time. You just hate it becausse it makes you uncomfortable...

 

[Canon Shooter]

you can have guns as long as you are suitable, you have a valid reason why

The valid reason is that the Constitution says I can have them.

There really needn't be a reason beyond that...