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no but they do support that Blacks are arrested at a much higher rate than whites for the same crimes, and will serve much longer prison sentences than whites for the same crimes.question
when you say black lives matter, do you mean?
ONLY black lives matter
or
Black lives matter TOO
the answer say a lot and makes a significant difference in how others see it
Which is it?
I don't know what other people mean when they say BLM but what I mean is;
I would appreciate it if the police would actually abide by their SWORN OATH and stop executing blacks in the streets.
DUE PROCESS!
If whites are also being executed in the streets without due process then THAT should stop, too.
the actual statistics do not support the claim that police are executing blacks in the streets. That is a lie.
So it only matters if the person is killed?[
You know EVERYTHING because since the day your were born into your privileged white life, post 9/11, black people were vilified in the Billionaire Media as lazy, stupid, and looking for "free shit", and you're too intellectually lazy to do anything but parrot those lies.
You know exactly NOTHING fuck boy. Go get an education and come back when started shaving, and you've studied history, economics, and law. Maybe by then you'll have stopped parroting the racist lies of the Republican Billionaire Media, and you actually have the beginnings of a clue.
You ignoramus, you know nothing about me. Not my race, not my education, not my age, not anything, except that I post facts which run counter to your OPINIONS.
I know , I know, you believe in "truth" not facts, so it pisses you off when people like me correctly point out that 1,000 people killed in 330M interactions is not systemic violence, among other facts.
So a beating is OK right? Or holding a person for years with no trial because he refused to cop a plea for a crime he didn't commit is OK because hey at least the ****** wasn't killed right?
You want to ignore the reality of the American injustice system
no but they do support that Blacks are arrested at a much higher rate than whites for the same crimes, and will serve much longer prison sentences than whites for the same crimes.question
when you say black lives matter, do you mean?
ONLY black lives matter
or
Black lives matter TOO
the answer say a lot and makes a significant difference in how others see it
Which is it?
I don't know what other people mean when they say BLM but what I mean is;
I would appreciate it if the police would actually abide by their SWORN OATH and stop executing blacks in the streets.
DUE PROCESS!
If whites are also being executed in the streets without due process then THAT should stop, too.
the actual statistics do not support the claim that police are executing blacks in the streets. That is a lie.
The prison for profit system in this country is legalized slavery.
So it only matters if the person is killed?[
You know EVERYTHING because since the day your were born into your privileged white life, post 9/11, black people were vilified in the Billionaire Media as lazy, stupid, and looking for "free shit", and you're too intellectually lazy to do anything but parrot those lies.
You know exactly NOTHING fuck boy. Go get an education and come back when started shaving, and you've studied history, economics, and law. Maybe by then you'll have stopped parroting the racist lies of the Republican Billionaire Media, and you actually have the beginnings of a clue.
You ignoramus, you know nothing about me. Not my race, not my education, not my age, not anything, except that I post facts which run counter to your OPINIONS.
I know , I know, you believe in "truth" not facts, so it pisses you off when people like me correctly point out that 1,000 people killed in 330M interactions is not systemic violence, among other facts.
So a beating is OK right? Or holding a person for years with no trial because he refused to cop a plea for a crime he didn't commit is OK because hey at least the ****** wasn't killed right?
You want to ignore the reality of the American injustice system
Where did I say ANY of that? What is wrong with just sticking to what people actually DID say ?
no but they do support that Blacks are arrested at a much higher rate than whites for the same crimes, and will serve much longer prison sentences than whites for the same crimes.question
when you say black lives matter, do you mean?
ONLY black lives matter
or
Black lives matter TOO
the answer say a lot and makes a significant difference in how others see it
Which is it?
I don't know what other people mean when they say BLM but what I mean is;
I would appreciate it if the police would actually abide by their SWORN OATH and stop executing blacks in the streets.
DUE PROCESS!
If whites are also being executed in the streets without due process then THAT should stop, too.
the actual statistics do not support the claim that police are executing blacks in the streets. That is a lie.
The prison for profit system in this country is legalized slavery.
This is just stupidity. If blacks were being arrested and sent to prison for long times for profit, wouldn't it stand to reason that someone might figure out that there are more whites out there than blacks, and use them to make profit it well, resulting in more whites in prison? Or do these prisons only make money off black prisoners?
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What if I told you that is is equally racist for a white persons life to be ruined for simply speaking against a black person, as it was many years ago when a black persons life was ruined for doing the same?
I'd say you're an idiot.What if I told you that is is equally racist for a white persons life to be ruined for simply speaking against a black person, as it was many years ago when a black persons life was ruined for doing the same?
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?
Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?
Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?
It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.
It’s so transparent.
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the problem with the left is that they seem to feel that anyone NOT agreeing with their emotional jihad of the day are evil people who must be shamed.You are an ignorant ass to not understand this by now.question
when you say black lives matter, do you mean?
ONLY black lives matter
or
Black lives matter TOO
the answer say a lot and makes a significant difference in how others see it
Which is it?
as for ignorant asses, you are one of the leaders in that regard.
I didn't agree or disagree with that poster, dope.the problem with the left is that they seem to feel that anyone NOT agreeing with their emotional jihad of the day are evil people who must be shamed.
as for ignorant asses, you are one of the leaders in that regard.
I oppose black lives matter because they exist to perpetuate the lie that a vast majority of Americans believe otherwise.Typical Trump assfuck,. defending racial posts.Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?
Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?
Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?
It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.
It’s so transparent.
Why do you oppose black lives matter? Why do you oppose racial equality? Why do you support police brutality? Why do you support a racist Donald Trump?
This case is a PERFECT example of that. Nearly everyone agrees that this cop is a douche and he murdered that guy. There is no evidence of systemic approval of this guy or his actions. If they hung him on the courthouse steps tomorrow I doubt many would object. Yet here is BLM out protesting and looting and destroying, and killing people by the way because "black lives matter" of course they fucking do, that's why the cops involved have been charged with crimes. Does BLM just want summary executions?
Then on the flip side you have the other case we are talking about in this thread Michael Brown caused his own death, yet BLM and idiots like dragonlady can't just own that, no they have to LIE .
I object to dishonest discourse, BLM exists to spread dishonest discourse, thus I opposes BLM. It has absolutely no bearing on my belief that every life including back lives, matter.Except BLM have never said that's why they exist, liar.I oppose black lives matter because they exist to perpetuate the lie that a vast majority of Americans believe otherwise.
Of course they haven't said that, because they are dishonest. Duh.
I mean did Harvey Weinstein ever admit that he existed to rape aspiring actresses? No, of course not.
Sure......only you know the "real" truth.Of course they haven't said that, because they are dishonest. Duh.
I mean did Harvey Weinstein ever admit that he existed to rape aspiring actresses? No, of course not.
I oppose black lives matter because they exist to perpetuate the lie that a vast majority of Americans believe otherwise.Typical Trump assfuck,. defending racial posts.Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?
Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?
Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?
It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.
It’s so transparent.
Why do you oppose black lives matter? Why do you oppose racial equality? Why do you support police brutality? Why do you support a racist Donald Trump?
This case is a PERFECT example of that. Nearly everyone agrees that this cop is a douche and he murdered that guy. There is no evidence of systemic approval of this guy or his actions. If they hung him on the courthouse steps tomorrow I doubt many would object. Yet here is BLM out protesting and looting and destroying, and killing people by the way because "black lives matter" of course they fucking do, that's why the cops involved have been charged with crimes. Does BLM just want summary executions?
Then on the flip side you have the other case we are talking about in this thread Michael Brown caused his own death, yet BLM and idiots like dragonlady can't just own that, no they have to LIE .
I object to dishonest discourse, BLM exists to spread dishonest discourse, thus I opposes BLM. It has absolutely no bearing on my belief that every life including back lives, matter.Except BLM have never said that's why they exist, liar.I oppose black lives matter because they exist to perpetuate the lie that a vast majority of Americans believe otherwise.
Of course they haven't said that, because they are dishonest. Duh.
I mean did Harvey Weinstein ever admit that he existed to rape aspiring actresses? No, of course not.Sure......only you know the "real" truth.Of course they haven't said that, because they are dishonest. Duh.
I mean did Harvey Weinstein ever admit that he existed to rape aspiring actresses? No, of course not.
They've stated what their mission is, dope.
Look at this folks.... this is what you get when a person is so clueless about what is happening in the world. Read her post. Doesn't believe any white persons life was ruined for simply saying something against a black person(s).View attachment 348327
What if I told you that is is equally racist for a white persons life to be ruined for simply speaking against a black person, as it was many years ago when a black persons life was ruined for doing the same?
What if I told you the sky was bright green with pink candy canes? Would that make it true? What if all the people I hang out with told you the same thing. Would it be true then? How many people telling you the sky is bright green with pink candy canes would it take to make it true?
Whose life was ruined for speaking against a black person? I'm gonna need links to these cases because this is my google search for names of people this has happened gave me a lot about black people whose lives have been ruined by racism. I know of people who have been fired because of their racist behaviour, and rightfully so. That's a whole different thing.
This is yet another example of what happens when you post these racist tropes that "everybody knows". Most of the time, these things are simply not true, and those of us who weren't born yesterday, cannot be fooled into thinking it did?
Unbelievable.
It is unbelievable that people still don't understand that fewer and fewer people tolerate public displays of bigotry. Especially employers and clients.Doesn't believe any white persons life was ruined for simply saying something against a black person(s).
Unbelievable.
No she isn't. Just unfortunately one of the many otherwise normal people brainwashed by the media spin. Asyou know someone ONLY from online but you know everything about them and their PRIVILEGED WHITE LIFE however, huh?educate yourself on what causes violence in populationsChicago saw its deadliest day in at least 30 years last month, with 18 killings within a 24-hour period on 31 May.
The violence occurred as protests over George Floyd's death in Minneapolis also spurred rioting and looting in the Windy City.
Over the last weekend in May - a three day holiday - 85 people were shot and 24 killed, according to the University of Chicago Crime Lab.
Most of the victims were black.
The dead and injured include students, parents and middle-aged workers, according to the data provided to the Chicago Sun-Times.
Chicago sees deadliest day in decades amid protests and curfew
As protests against George Floyd's death raged on 31 May, 18 people were killed in just one day,www.bbc.com
Odd, none of the liberal fucks and none of the Black Lives Matter cult members have made ONE MENTION OF THIS.
Black lives DO NOT MATTER to BLACK LIVES MATTER.
WAKE UP.
The same thing happens in South Africa. Black on black crime is the direct result of the systemic racism and segregation of minorities.
What is the black problem?Yeah... but UK nor French have the "black problem" that we have in America. They didn't have ill-thought social engineering that packed blacks in like sardines away from jobs...away from better schools...away from them.Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?
Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?
Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?
It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.
It’s so transparent.
The answer is simply really, they dwe on't want discussion because BLM exists to turn a molehill into a mountain.
Is it a damn shame that even one American is killed due to bad behavior of police? Of course it is, but what kind of outrage is going to develop if BLM , and others, just came out and said "looking at the facts, we have 50 americans killed by bad actors in police departments in this country last year, that's 50 too many?" The answer is "not much" so instead they gin up the numbers, and scream about "systemic racism" and then squelch all reasonable debate, because the reality is BLM , and others, KNOW we have the least racist, most careful police in the world , and facts prove this, so every dissent MUST be shut down before the actual facts can enter the discussion.
You have 1000 Americans killed by police every single year, even as crime numbers are declining. 47 of the people killed by police last year were unarmed. Police officers who are fired for excessive force just get hired somewhere else. The protections for police officers using force are such that racist assholes who just want to bully blacks and shouldn't be working in policing at all, are still on the force. Chauvin had 16 excessive force violations, and had previously killed another person before he murdered George Floyd.
In the first world, the police in other nations don't kill their citizens in anywhere near the numbers that American police do. You have the highest number of people incarcerated in the first world, even as crime goes down. Their police forces are militarized, and they live in the communities where they serve.
French police killed 26 people last year. In the UK, that number was 3 - and two of them were murdering, knife wielding terrorists on London Bridge. In Canada, that number was 8. Norway, and a number of other European nations, had 0. The violence by American police is out of control. Nowhere have we seen this more than in the attacks on peaceful protestors in the marches.
Black people in other countries don't act like they do here. At all. None.
Also UK police don't carry guns...so...yeah...that kinda explains that don't it?You are exactly what you seem.Yeah... but UK nor French have the "black problem" that we have in America.
What is that "black problem?"
What do you mean? You want to put anyone who is black in your debate? Everyone should stereotype for you and like you?Who told you BLM was about that?It's quite simple, if a "White" man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is "Racist". It really is just that simple.
I'm not limiting it to BLM.
You aren't very good at this. My statement is true, more than not feel just that way.
ESPECIALLY the resident black posters here.
If he isn't very good at this, you're even worse.
"If a 'White' man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is 'Racist'." This is a racist statement. You follow that with "My statement is true, more than not feel just that way". While your statement is NOT true, you are correct that many (not most) people feel that way. This is proof that systemic racism is a serious problem in America.
I know that's not what you thought you were proving, but with your standard conservative pretzel logic, you manage to shoot yourself in the foot. Every. Single. Time.
It is true and you're an idiot.I've never shot myself in ay foot honey. Go peddle your "White Guilt" elsewhere.
I'm not "peddling" anything. I'm just pointing out your "truth" which you acknowledge is widely believed, is not only a fallacy, but a racist fallacy at that. Thank you for acknowledging that racism is wide spread and systemic. It's a beginning. The next step is to acknowledge that it's harming the WHOLE nation, and not just black people.
It's neither widespread nor systemic.
Imagine if someone stupidly said "based on the stats, we can see that blacks are just systemtically criminals" it isn't true.
Just using YOUR numbers, let's say 1000 Americans were killed by police in this country and assume that each of them was due to bad behavior by the police, and we'll even assume 100% of them were black so that we can come up with the most generous numbers to your argument.
Last year there were roughly 2.2M black people arrested in this country.
We'll use that number as the basis for both arguments.
There are roughly 42M blacks in the US,
So 5% of the black population was arrested last year. 5% proves that blacks are not systemically criminal. I'm sure you would agree. It's not like 50% of blacks are breaking the law, it's actually a very lower number. Whites are around 2.5%, Asians, around 1%. Relatively speaking all are very small numbers, and of course we'd like to see lower figures, but the reality is when you have a free society, you're going to have more criminal behavior. Not much you can do about that.
Now, let's look at the 1,000 deaths. Even if every single one of them were black, you would be talking about less than .5% of blacks arrested by cops last year were killed by those cops. if you figure the real numbers, and see that we're talking about 1,000 deaths in 11M arrests. that's less than 1/10th of percent.
So unless you are prepared to argue that 5% of blacks being arrested proves that blacks are systemic criminals there is no logical way you can reach the conclusion that .01% of arrests ending in the suspect being killed by police proves that we have systemic police brutality in this country.
And of course there is the anecdotal evidence that proves the lie. If this country was so racist, and Democrats cared as much about black and brown people as they say they do , they would NOT be encouraging the daily deluge of black and brown people who come to this country looking for safety , even at the risk of their own lives.
This is a made up bullshit argument by Democrats who know that their voters are stupid. Plain and simple.
Your entire line of reasoning based is based on a racist system of violent over policing, so ALL of the numbers used are skewed to the excessive number of police interactions with minorities are heavily skewed against minorities.
White kids have their pot confiscated and are sent on their way. White kids have a future and we don't want their "boys will be boys behaviour" to hamper their job and education prospects for the rest of their lives, just over a little weed. Young blacks and young white use marijuana at about the same rates.
Black kids get arrested for the same thing.
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Black people are 13% of the population but commit 52% of the murders in America.
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ucr.fbi.govDerp.....Black people are 13% of the population but commit 52% of the murders in America.
No, dope. 13% don't commit murder.
99.9% of black folks don't commit murder just like 99.9% of white folks don't commit murder.
I would expect that you have no idea.
I will give a hint.... memorial day Chicago.... 70% single parent raised children, tell me again what is the number one cause of death for inner city young black males?
What is the black problem....
How can you give anyone a "hint" when you are obviously so clueless. Like all of the racist tropes conservatives parrot as to the cause of the high crime rates amonst minorities, this one blames the result of racism, as the cause of the problem.
As a result of the systemic racism and overpolicing of minorities communities during the Zero Tolerance policy of the War on Drugs, 7.7% of all black males are in state and federal prisons. Most are between the ages of 18 and 40 - the parenting years. When you put all of the young black fathers in prison for smoking pot, you have a lot of single parent families.
Since 1980, the population of young black males in state and federal prisons have tripled, mostly on non-violent drug crimes, as part of the War on Drugs. Marijuana usage between young whites and young black are routinely shown to be similar. Everybody, black and white smokes weed, and has since the 1970's. But young blacks are 4 times more likely to be charged for possession of small amounts.
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Would you like to make your next bullshit racist post so we can dismantle that one too?
LOL Jesus Christ, now it's whitey's fault that blacks commit violence against other blacks too?
I know exacty what causes the violence fool, hint it isn't white people.
You know EVERYTHING because since the day your were born into your privileged white life, post 9/11, black people were vilified in the Billionaire Media as lazy, stupid, and looking for "free shit", and you're too intellectually lazy to do anything but parrot those lies.
You know exactly NOTHING fuck boy. Go get an education and come back when started shaving, and you've studied history, economics, and law. Maybe by then you'll have stopped parroting the racist lies of the Republican Billionaire Media, and you actually have the beginnings of a clue.
fucking hypocrits.
She is truly a horrid person
Oh shit.... you're right I thought that was OldLady... I don't know anything about dragonLadyOldLady or dragonlady?IRl I think Oldlady is a nice person, just terribly uninformed. It is almost unimaginable that a person living in 2020 said that. But it just goes to show how easily people are uninformed by the media.oddly enough that would not be the most unbelievable thing you've ever said.View attachment 348327
What if I told you that is is equally racist for a white persons life to be ruined for simply speaking against a black person, as it was many years ago when a black persons life was ruined for doing the same?
What if I told you the sky was bright green with pink candy canes? Would that make it true? What if all the people I hang out with told you the same thing. Would it be true then? How many people telling you the sky is bright green with pink candy canes would it take to make it true?
Whose life was ruined for speaking against a black person? I'm gonna need links to these cases because this is my google search for names of people this has happened gave me a lot about black people whose lives have been ruined by racism. I know of people who have been fired because of their racist behaviour, and rightfully so. That's a whole different thing.
This is yet another example of what happens when you post these racist tropes that "everybody knows". Most of the time, these things are simply not true, and those of us who weren't born yesterday, cannot be fooled into thinking it did?
Remarkable.
I've seen OldLady give people she doesn't like the same latitude as people she does near as I can tell. She gets as emotional as we all can at times but, she's never been 100% to a given side and I appreciate that.
Dragonlady is a shit stain of hate rhetoric.
I oppose black lives matter because they exist to perpetuate the lie that a vast majority of Americans believe otherwise.Typical Trump assfuck,. defending racial posts.Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?
Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?
Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?
It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.
It’s so transparent.
Why do you oppose black lives matter? Why do you oppose racial equality? Why do you support police brutality? Why do you support a racist Donald Trump?
This case is a PERFECT example of that. Nearly everyone agrees that this cop is a douche and he murdered that guy. There is no evidence of systemic approval of this guy or his actions. If they hung him on the courthouse steps tomorrow I doubt many would object. Yet here is BLM out protesting and looting and destroying, and killing people by the way because "black lives matter" of course they fucking do, that's why the cops involved have been charged with crimes. Does BLM just want summary executions?
Then on the flip side you have the other case we are talking about in this thread Michael Brown caused his own death, yet BLM and idiots like dragonlady can't just own that, no they have to LIE .
I object to dishonest discourse, BLM exists to spread dishonest discourse, thus I opposes BLM. It has absolutely no bearing on my belief that every life including back lives, matter.Except BLM have never said that's why they exist, liar.I oppose black lives matter because they exist to perpetuate the lie that a vast majority of Americans believe otherwise.
Of course they haven't said that, because they are dishonest. Duh.
I mean did Harvey Weinstein ever admit that he existed to rape aspiring actresses? No, of course not.Sure......only you know the "real" truth.Of course they haven't said that, because they are dishonest. Duh.
I mean did Harvey Weinstein ever admit that he existed to rape aspiring actresses? No, of course not.
They've stated what their mission is, dope.
Sure and Sandusky's stated mission was to introduce young boys to the sport of football wasn't it?
Kind of like ANTIFA are actually fascists , even though they claim to be anti fascists.
So.....it's ANTIFA now. I see. You hit the wall with one and pivot to another.Sure and Sandusky's stated mission was to introduce young boys to the sport of football wasn't it?
Kind of like ANTIFA are actually fascists , even though they claim to be anti fascists.
Yeah right - there are public displays of bigotry and sexism in the entertainment industry as a matter of course. Only it is against unprotected classes - so that don't matter.Look at this folks.... this is what you get when a person is so clueless about what is happening in the world. Read her post. Doesn't believe any white persons life was ruined for simply saying something against a black person(s).View attachment 348327
What if I told you that is is equally racist for a white persons life to be ruined for simply speaking against a black person, as it was many years ago when a black persons life was ruined for doing the same?
What if I told you the sky was bright green with pink candy canes? Would that make it true? What if all the people I hang out with told you the same thing. Would it be true then? How many people telling you the sky is bright green with pink candy canes would it take to make it true?
Whose life was ruined for speaking against a black person? I'm gonna need links to these cases because this is my google search for names of people this has happened gave me a lot about black people whose lives have been ruined by racism. I know of people who have been fired because of their racist behaviour, and rightfully so. That's a whole different thing.
This is yet another example of what happens when you post these racist tropes that "everybody knows". Most of the time, these things are simply not true, and those of us who weren't born yesterday, cannot be fooled into thinking it did?
Unbelievable.It is unbelievable that people still don't understand that fewer and fewer people tolerate public displays of bigotry. Especially employers and clients.Doesn't believe any white persons life was ruined for simply saying something against a black person(s).
Unbelievable.
Good Lord... seeing how the media are showing and speaking about Al Sharpton.
SO... Al Sharpton is a moral arbiter now? Is that really where we are? Al Sharpton...speaking about morals.
The left is lost.
no but they do support that Blacks are arrested at a much higher rate than whites for the same crimes, and will serve much longer prison sentences than whites for the same crimes.question
when you say black lives matter, do you mean?
ONLY black lives matter
or
Black lives matter TOO
the answer say a lot and makes a significant difference in how others see it
Which is it?
I don't know what other people mean when they say BLM but what I mean is;
I would appreciate it if the police would actually abide by their SWORN OATH and stop executing blacks in the streets.
DUE PROCESS!
If whites are also being executed in the streets without due process then THAT should stop, too.
the actual statistics do not support the claim that police are executing blacks in the streets. That is a lie.
The prison for profit system in this country is legalized slavery.
This is just stupidity. If blacks were being arrested and sent to prison for long times for profit, wouldn't it stand to reason that someone might figure out that there are more whites out there than blacks, and use them to make profit it well, resulting in more whites in prison? Or do these prisons only make money off black prisoners?
Yeah!!!...... because no white person has EVER been killed by a cop!!!.... NOT EVEN ONCE!!!!no but they do support that Blacks are arrested at a much higher rate than whites for the same crimes, and will serve much longer prison sentences than whites for the same crimes.question
when you say black lives matter, do you mean?
ONLY black lives matter
or
Black lives matter TOO
the answer say a lot and makes a significant difference in how others see it
Which is it?
I don't know what other people mean when they say BLM but what I mean is;
I would appreciate it if the police would actually abide by their SWORN OATH and stop executing blacks in the streets.
DUE PROCESS!
If whites are also being executed in the streets without due process then THAT should stop, too.
the actual statistics do not support the claim that police are executing blacks in the streets. That is a lie.
The prison for profit system in this country is legalized slavery.
This is just stupidity. If blacks were being arrested and sent to prison for long times for profit, wouldn't it stand to reason that someone might figure out that there are more whites out there than blacks, and use them to make profit it well, resulting in more whites in prison? Or do these prisons only make money off black prisoners?
It is easier to imprison blacks than whites. If you get a lot of traffic tickets, you will accrue a lot of fines. If you are a low income workers in an urban neighbourhood, where the local police use black residents as a cash cow, you will accumulate a lot of fines. If you are poor and can't pay your fines, you will be to jail for a period of time, even if you haven't committed a crime. When you go to jail, you will be fired. And after you get out, you have a jail record, making it more difficult to get a job.
So you do something marginally illegal because you're broke out of work and desperate like grab a loaf of bread, and bang, you're now an excon thief. Back to jail for you.
Back in the 70's a hippy friend was falsely arrested at a big time drug bust gone bad. 15 cop cars busted the band when they arrived to set up for a concert in a border town. The out of town promoter was apparently a major drug dealer who was using the concert ticket sales to launder drug money. This really expensive, months in the planning drug bust - 15 cruisers, 30 officers, and 4 dogs, netted them two joints and a half ounce of home grown. Not the TV newsworth law and order bust they had in mind.
At my friend's trial, he testified that the joint in the cigarette pack wasn't his. He is severely asthmatic, and very allergic to smoke of any kind. He had a letter from his allergist confirming this. And since he never buys cigarettes, and none of the guys in his band smoke either, why would he have a cigarette pack. The other guy, whose pockets they also emptied on the hood of the police car not only smoked, he smoke the brand of cigarettes which the joint was found in, and he admitted the joint was his. The cop claimed he saw my friend put the cigarette pack on the car, and the judge saw no reason to disbelieve the 17 year veteran of the force. My friend was convicted.
Everyone involved in this story is white, and my friend was telling the truth. His family spent a lot of money getting that conviction overturned on appeal, so he wouldn't be prevented from travelling, and he wouldn't have to go through life with a record. Poor people don't have those options. They go through life with bullshit records which limit their options.
And when they do get out of jail, there are still outstanding warrants for outstanding parking tickets, which prevent them from getting a license, which in turns may prevent them from getting a job.
Social and economic racial opression is just one big thing. It is thousands of little things that limit choices. Like the mining of poor neighbourhoods for parking violations as a cash cow for police departments. Like inner city schools which have fewer resources and scholarship athletic programs to enable students to get athletic scholarships, like football, basketball, etc. Suburban schools in middle class neighbourhoods have, on average 14 atheltic programs which could lead to scholarships for their students. Find a "minor sport" like fencing or badminton to excel in and get a free ride to college. Mostly minority inner city schools have, on average 9 such programs, and they're the big team sports - baseball, basketball, football, track and field, and other high competition programs, where the competition for scholarships is much greater, further reducing their chances of acceptance.
Laws which limit where blacks can buy property, or lending policies and laws which allow banks and other institutions to discriminate. As a young bank manager looking to refinance my home after my divorce, I found a lot of doors closed to me. One lender said simply, that if I were to default on the loan, there is no way he could foreclose on the loan and turn a woman and her children out onto the street. I looked him in the eye, and said "Why not? I could." There's always an excuse for discrimination. But the effect was the same.
Laws which limit where blacks, or how blacks could buy or hold property. Every decade I have lived through from before you were born has had major race riots, triggered by the deaths of unarmed black people at the hands of police. EVERY. SINGLE ONE.
And here you are Mr. Millenial. Telling us that what me and others have witnessed on TV throughout our entire lives, didn't really happen and if it did, those beatings and killings are just no big deal, and police brutality, which only happens in the USA, isn't really the truth of what's going on.
you don't have to go all the way back to the 70'sno but they do support that Blacks are arrested at a much higher rate than whites for the same crimes, and will serve much longer prison sentences than whites for the same crimes.question
when you say black lives matter, do you mean?
ONLY black lives matter
or
Black lives matter TOO
the answer say a lot and makes a significant difference in how others see it
Which is it?
I don't know what other people mean when they say BLM but what I mean is;
I would appreciate it if the police would actually abide by their SWORN OATH and stop executing blacks in the streets.
DUE PROCESS!
If whites are also being executed in the streets without due process then THAT should stop, too.
the actual statistics do not support the claim that police are executing blacks in the streets. That is a lie.
The prison for profit system in this country is legalized slavery.
This is just stupidity. If blacks were being arrested and sent to prison for long times for profit, wouldn't it stand to reason that someone might figure out that there are more whites out there than blacks, and use them to make profit it well, resulting in more whites in prison? Or do these prisons only make money off black prisoners?
It is easier to imprison blacks than whites. If you get a lot of traffic tickets, you will accrue a lot of fines. If you are a low income workers in an urban neighbourhood, where the local police use black residents as a cash cow, you will accumulate a lot of fines. If you are poor and can't pay your fines, you will be to jail for a period of time, even if you haven't committed a crime. When you go to jail, you will be fired. And after you get out, you have a jail record, making it more difficult to get a job.
So you do something marginally illegal because you're broke out of work and desperate like grab a loaf of bread, and bang, you're now an excon thief. Back to jail for you.
Back in the 70's a hippy friend was falsely arrested at a big time drug bust gone bad. 15 cop cars busted the band when they arrived to set up for a concert in a border town. The out of town promoter was apparently a major drug dealer who was using the concert ticket sales to launder drug money. This really expensive, months in the planning drug bust - 15 cruisers, 30 officers, and 4 dogs, netted them two joints and a half ounce of home grown. Not the TV newsworth law and order bust they had in mind.
At my friend's trial, he testified that the joint in the cigarette pack wasn't his. He is severely asthmatic, and very allergic to smoke of any kind. He had a letter from his allergist confirming this. And since he never buys cigarettes, and none of the guys in his band smoke either, why would he have a cigarette pack. The other guy, whose pockets they also emptied on the hood of the police car not only smoked, he smoke the brand of cigarettes which the joint was found in, and he admitted the joint was his. The cop claimed he saw my friend put the cigarette pack on the car, and the judge saw no reason to disbelieve the 17 year veteran of the force. My friend was convicted.
Everyone involved in this story is white, and my friend was telling the truth. His family spent a lot of money getting that conviction overturned on appeal, so he wouldn't be prevented from travelling, and he wouldn't have to go through life with a record. Poor people don't have those options. They go through life with bullshit records which limit their options.
And when they do get out of jail, there are still outstanding warrants for outstanding parking tickets, which prevent them from getting a license, which in turns may prevent them from getting a job.
Social and economic racial opression is just one big thing. It is thousands of little things that limit choices. Like the mining of poor neighbourhoods for parking violations as a cash cow for police departments. Like inner city schools which have fewer resources and scholarship athletic programs to enable students to get athletic scholarships, like football, basketball, etc. Suburban schools in middle class neighbourhoods have, on average 14 atheltic programs which could lead to scholarships for their students. Find a "minor sport" like fencing or badminton to excel in and get a free ride to college. Mostly minority inner city schools have, on average 9 such programs, and they're the big team sports - baseball, basketball, football, track and field, and other high competition programs, where the competition for scholarships is much greater, further reducing their chances of acceptance.
Laws which limit where blacks can buy property, or lending policies and laws which allow banks and other institutions to discriminate. As a young bank manager looking to refinance my home after my divorce, I found a lot of doors closed to me. One lender said simply, that if I were to default on the loan, there is no way he could foreclose on the loan and turn a woman and her children out onto the street. I looked him in the eye, and said "Why not? I could." There's always an excuse for discrimination. But the effect was the same.
Laws which limit where blacks, or how blacks could buy or hold property. Every decade I have lived through from before you were born has had major race riots, triggered by the deaths of unarmed black people at the hands of police. EVERY. SINGLE ONE.
And here you are Mr. Millenial. Telling us that what me and others have witnessed on TV throughout our entire lives, didn't really happen and if it did, those beatings and killings are just no big deal, and police brutality, which only happens in the USA, isn't really the truth of what's going on.
