Why don't white parents get blamed....

So we are parsing facts and lying when we point out blacks make up 13 percent of the population but account for almost 50 percent of all murderers?

13% of the population descended from American slavery and Apartheid oppression.
Ahh so that makes it ok to murder? Why don't the Irish murder in those numbers?

I am not Irish and I cannot look at a person and tell that they are Irish. Can you?

That sounds racist.
I am sure it does to someone who is not smart enough to know what the definition of racism is. A dog might look like a cat to you if you are an idiot.

Yeah...they all look alike to you.
 
You need to use a more logic. The only reason they were accepted into the US was because they were the few Nigerians with an education. If they didn't have an education, they likely wouldn't have been allowed to come here, which is (by the way) the only reason we should be accepting applicants, in my opinion.

Apparently, the diversity visa program, which 17 percent of Africans come through (as opposed to 5 percent of the total U.S. immigrant population), has been helpful in that applicants to the program must have completed the equivalent of a U.S. high school education or have at least two years of recent experience in occupations such as accountant, computer-support specialist, orthodontist and dancer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...ducated-immigrants-in-u-s-repo-1822169956/amp

That is not how it works. Being educated does not guarantee a person a ticket or visa into the USA. Most of Nigeria's educated people remain in Nigeria. There are nearly 200 million Nigerians. They get in the same way as your FAVORITES, the Asians, do.

Its telling that people like you do not go digging into the background of Asian countries, to discredit them, but you try to find ways to discredit black success. The bottom line is that when given the opportunity Nigerians will educate themselves because they value education culturally. The country is too poor to offer educational opportunities like exist in the US...which is why when they get to the US they take full advantage of it.

Top Ten Nigerian Scientists Today
You're being silly. Providing a link to the top 10 Nigerian scientists doesn't tell us anything. Try looking up "top 10 scientists today" and try to find a Nigerian.

Here, I did the work for you...

Top 10 most influential scientists in the world today

How about the top 50?

The 50 Most Influential Scientists in the World Today | The Best Schools

Do you see ANY Africans?

I am telling you that Nigerians value education. Keep in mind that YOU were making the case that not many people in Nigeria are educated or get formal education. Well....that is true because of poverty. It makes sense that most scientist would come from places that have the best schools and research institutions. Schools and research institutions are knowledge bases that contain all the worlds known knowledge and science. Its from that starting point that science and discoveries are expanded. Nigeria does not have such Universities as compared to the West and Asia....which is why many go to the West to get educated. Also, Nigeria as a country is only 50 something years old. Once the build the knowledge bases, advanced research universities, you will see the inventive class rise. But all that is a moot point.

The point is that the culture of Africans IS NOT THE CULTURE OF AFRICAN AMERICANS. Blacks that come to America with their ROOT African culture DO MUCH BETTER than blacks who are descendants of enslaved Americans. Descendants of American slavery do not manifest African Culture. The culture that they manifest WAS LEARNED FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH WHITES!!! That experience was NEGATIVE.
again---there are not many blacks that come here from Africa....did you not understand the post and mathematics I posted before?? it doesn't matter how the immigrants from Africa do--you can't tell what their true culture is from a very tiny TINY test population

Neither can you tell that with Asians.....as there are Billions of Asians in the world, yet they are given the benefit of the doubt for their high academic achievements as being cultural in the US. Yet, you will not give blacks the same benefit of the doubt. Alas...that is because you are a RACIST.....so its not surprising. Anything that puts blacks in a good light....you will try to tear down to fit your narrative of black inferiority.
The racist is you. You hate whites and claim things about blacks that simply are not true, but thanks for playing.
 
come on AKIP, admit the blacks have a significantly bigger problem with murder than whites
the stats are there and cannot be refuted

It depends on the window of time you choose to look at. How many whites were killed in WWI and WWII?
So now you are comparing war deaths to murder? You have no business being in this conversation since you will simply make up shit left and right.
A lot of murders in Chicago are GANG WARS. In Detroit it was DRUG WARS.

So?
So......you are not smart enough to see the parallel.

There is no parallel to gang war for drug turf and war.
 
Statistics can and do. Defending the murder rate among blacks by claiming they were slaves 150 years ago and oppressed 50 years ago is simply stupid.

You might see it as stupid.....but it is FACT and TRUTH. Africans who immigrate to America do not demonstrate the same behavior. Ergo...it seems more rooted in historical experience than color.
The black murder rate wasn't anywhere near as high before the civil rights era as it is today. What happened? I'll tell you... fathers abandon their children in the black community today, hence the crazy high murder rate.

The failure of modern black culture is to blame; not slavery.

drugs and the war on drugs

Stop selling and doing drugs.
Problem solved.
You first.

I've never sold drugs.
Although I am guilty of smoking some high end dro in my own home rather than while driving around with a plethora of vehicle infractions.
 
When their kids do bad things like mass shootings? When a black youth or young adult commits violence, its seems to always be attributed to poor parenting and or innate propensity towards violence. When a white young adult does something violent, its said to be a mental illness of some sort. Why is not black violence considered a mental illness (from being driven crazy by white folks), as opposed to poor parenting and innate propensity towards violence?
Actually when blacks commit racist crimes, they are usually just swept under the mentally ill rug, too. As if it excuses anything. It's a convenient way of ignoring facts that don't fit in with the polemic narrative...Whatever THAT is.
 
Because black people have a failed culture which created a tremendous amount of criminals. Also, I couldn't help but notice how quick you stopped blaming slavery.
what caused it to fail?
Welfare made it very easy for women to have kids and for men to abandon them.
why would welfare impact blacks more than whites....and not make white culture fail also?

Because we're smarter.
I don't have a problem with you believing that......I know that is what you all believe......you can't convince me that you are smarter though.....you are only convincing me that you are racist for believing you are smarter.

Sorry,the results speak for themselves.
 
Almost HALF of Nigeria is illiterate. Any attempt to claim that Nigerians are the most educated, is just nonsense. Your inability to recognize simple facts is precisely why black culture is doing so poorly. Until you guys can acknowledge your problems, your culture will NEVER get better. Living in a fantasy world is doing you no favors.

I never said they were the most educated IN the world....did I? I claimed that they were the most educated IN THE USA! In other words, given the same playing fields as white or blacks in America, NIGERIANS DO BETTER THAN African Americans and WHITES educationally.....and you HATE THAT TRUTH. Said another way, when Nigerians have the same opportunity as whites to become educated in America.....THEY EXCEED WHITES and YOU CAN"T STAND IT. Now....that is FUNNY.
You need to use a more logic. The only reason they were accepted into the US was because they were the few Nigerians with an education. If they didn't have an education, they likely wouldn't have been allowed to come here, which is (by the way) the only reason we should be accepting applicants, in my opinion.

Apparently, the diversity visa program, which 17 percent of Africans come through (as opposed to 5 percent of the total U.S. immigrant population), has been helpful in that applicants to the program must have completed the equivalent of a U.S. high school education or have at least two years of recent experience in occupations such as accountant, computer-support specialist, orthodontist and dancer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...ducated-immigrants-in-u-s-repo-1822169956/amp

That is not how it works. Being educated does not guarantee a person a ticket or visa into the USA. Most of Nigeria's educated people remain in Nigeria. There are nearly 200 million Nigerians. They get in the same way as your FAVORITES, the Asians, do.

Its telling that people like you do not go digging into the background of Asian countries, to discredit them, but you try to find ways to discredit black success. The bottom line is that when given the opportunity Nigerians will educate themselves because they value education culturally. The country is too poor to offer educational opportunities like exist in the US...which is why when they get to the US they take full advantage of it.

Top Ten Nigerian Scientists Today
You're being silly. Providing a link to the top 10 Nigerian scientists doesn't tell us anything. Try looking up "top 10 scientists today" and try to find a Nigerian.

Here, I did the work for you...

Top 10 most influential scientists in the world today

How about the top 50?

The 50 Most Influential Scientists in the World Today | The Best Schools

Do you see ANY Africans?

I am telling you that Nigerians value education. Keep in mind that YOU were making the case that not many people in Nigeria are educated or get formal education. Well....that is true because of poverty. It makes sense that most scientist would come from places that have the best schools and research institutions. Schools and research institutions are knowledge bases that contain all the worlds known knowledge and science. Its from that starting point that science and discoveries are expanded. Nigeria does not have such Universities as compared to the West and Asia....which is why many go to the West to get educated. Also, Nigeria as a country is only 50 something years old. Once the build the knowledge bases, advanced research universities, you will see the inventive class rise. But all that is a moot point.

The point is that the culture of Africans IS NOT THE CULTURE OF AFRICAN AMERICANS. Blacks that come to America with their ROOT African culture DO MUCH BETTER than blacks who are descendants of enslaved Americans. Descendants of American slavery do not manifest African Culture. The culture that they manifest WAS LEARNED FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH WHITES!!! That experience was NEGATIVE.
I've got no beef with Nigerians. They seem to behave in this country for the most part. I'm just saying it's silly to suggest that they are the most educated people in the US.
 
what caused it to fail?
Welfare made it very easy for women to have kids and for men to abandon them.
why would welfare impact blacks more than whites....and not make white culture fail also?
We have a better culture. Not all cultures are equal.

If your culture was so damn much better why do you white folks appropriate so much of ours?

Whites are where they are today because of legislation. Yes, I am saying that everything you whites have is the result of the government giving it to you.
Black people have taken far more from us than the other way around. Quit deluding yourself.

Wrong answer. Quit deluding yourself.
 
I never said they were the most educated IN the world....did I? I claimed that they were the most educated IN THE USA! In other words, given the same playing fields as white or blacks in America, NIGERIANS DO BETTER THAN African Americans and WHITES educationally.....and you HATE THAT TRUTH. Said another way, when Nigerians have the same opportunity as whites to become educated in America.....THEY EXCEED WHITES and YOU CAN"T STAND IT. Now....that is FUNNY.
You need to use a more logic. The only reason they were accepted into the US was because they were the few Nigerians with an education. If they didn't have an education, they likely wouldn't have been allowed to come here, which is (by the way) the only reason we should be accepting applicants, in my opinion.

Apparently, the diversity visa program, which 17 percent of Africans come through (as opposed to 5 percent of the total U.S. immigrant population), has been helpful in that applicants to the program must have completed the equivalent of a U.S. high school education or have at least two years of recent experience in occupations such as accountant, computer-support specialist, orthodontist and dancer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...ducated-immigrants-in-u-s-repo-1822169956/amp

That is not how it works. Being educated does not guarantee a person a ticket or visa into the USA. Most of Nigeria's educated people remain in Nigeria. There are nearly 200 million Nigerians. They get in the same way as your FAVORITES, the Asians, do.

Its telling that people like you do not go digging into the background of Asian countries, to discredit them, but you try to find ways to discredit black success. The bottom line is that when given the opportunity Nigerians will educate themselves because they value education culturally. The country is too poor to offer educational opportunities like exist in the US...which is why when they get to the US they take full advantage of it.

Top Ten Nigerian Scientists Today
You're being silly. Providing a link to the top 10 Nigerian scientists doesn't tell us anything. Try looking up "top 10 scientists today" and try to find a Nigerian.

Here, I did the work for you...

Top 10 most influential scientists in the world today

How about the top 50?

The 50 Most Influential Scientists in the World Today | The Best Schools

Do you see ANY Africans?

I am telling you that Nigerians value education. Keep in mind that YOU were making the case that not many people in Nigeria are educated or get formal education. Well....that is true because of poverty. It makes sense that most scientist would come from places that have the best schools and research institutions. Schools and research institutions are knowledge bases that contain all the worlds known knowledge and science. Its from that starting point that science and discoveries are expanded. Nigeria does not have such Universities as compared to the West and Asia....which is why many go to the West to get educated. Also, Nigeria as a country is only 50 something years old. Once the build the knowledge bases, advanced research universities, you will see the inventive class rise. But all that is a moot point.

The point is that the culture of Africans IS NOT THE CULTURE OF AFRICAN AMERICANS. Blacks that come to America with their ROOT African culture DO MUCH BETTER than blacks who are descendants of enslaved Americans. Descendants of American slavery do not manifest African Culture. The culture that they manifest WAS LEARNED FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH WHITES!!! That experience was NEGATIVE.
I've got no beef with Nigerians. They seem to behave in this country for the most part. I'm just saying it's silly to suggest that they are the most educated people in the US.

Seems like it's fact.
 
When their kids do bad things like mass shootings? When a black youth or young adult commits violence, its seems to always be attributed to poor parenting and or innate propensity towards violence. When a white young adult does something violent, its said to be a mental illness of some sort. Why is not black violence considered a mental illness (from being driven crazy by white folks), as opposed to poor parenting and innate propensity towards violence?
White kids aren't exempt from blaming parents. You can't always blame parents for everything, regardless of race. I know what I consider "perfect" parents, but their kids are assholes. I do not believe in getting a break for mental illness. If you commit a crime, you serve the time.
 
When their kids do bad things like mass shootings? When a black youth or young adult commits violence, its seems to always be attributed to poor parenting and or innate propensity towards violence. When a white young adult does something violent, its said to be a mental illness of some sort. Why is not black violence considered a mental illness (from being driven crazy by white folks), as opposed to poor parenting and innate propensity towards violence?

This recent shooter in Florida didn't have any parents, his adopted mom died a year ago and he was staying in a couples home that didn't see the problems..They didn't see the signs.

I don't even think that there are any black mass shooters is there?

Lee Boyd Malvo.
Since 1982, there have been 56 white mass shooters and 16 black mass shooters. Those numbers almost perfectly reflect the difference between the two population percentages.

What isn't reflected is that they don't include gang shootings in the mass shooter category. If you included those, black mass shootings would FAR exceed those commited by whites.

You understand that whites do have gangs don't you?
 
When their kids do bad things like mass shootings? When a black youth or young adult commits violence, its seems to always be attributed to poor parenting and or innate propensity towards violence. When a white young adult does something violent, its said to be a mental illness of some sort. Why is not black violence considered a mental illness (from being driven crazy by white folks), as opposed to poor parenting and innate propensity towards violence?

This recent shooter in Florida didn't have any parents, his adopted mom died a year ago and he was staying in a couples home that didn't see the problems..They didn't see the signs.

I don't even think that there are any black mass shooters is there?

Lee Boyd Malvo.
Since 1982, there have been 56 white mass shooters and 16 black mass shooters. Those numbers almost perfectly reflect the difference between the two population percentages.

What isn't reflected is that they don't include gang shootings in the mass shooter category. If you included those, black mass shootings would FAR exceed those commited by whites.

You understand that whites do have gangs don't you?

Other than a few white supremacist gangs......
 
When their kids do bad things like mass shootings? When a black youth or young adult commits violence, its seems to always be attributed to poor parenting and or innate propensity towards violence. When a white young adult does something violent, its said to be a mental illness of some sort. Why is not black violence considered a mental illness (from being driven crazy by white folks), as opposed to poor parenting and innate propensity towards violence?
White kids aren't exempt from blaming parents. You can't always blame parents for everything, regardless of race. I know what I consider "perfect" parents, but their kids are assholes. I do not believe in getting a break for mental illness. If you commit a crime, you serve the time.

Here at USMB whites have generally exempted themselves from any imperfections. Instead of admitting, we have to get the defense of how whites aren't being listened to or explanations by whites like we don't know. We live in a culture whereby whites are the dominant group Molly. This means the norms and standards of society are set by whites and all others must understand and follow them in order to survive. You need to understand this before you start trying to explain to us thinking you can do that because we do not know what it's like to be white.

This is not about white kids blaming their parents. It is about how white society wants to point fingers at black parents for things they do not do to white parents. What Akip is saying for example, when a white kid shoots up a bunch of people it's not attributed to bad parenting but the kid haven a mental disorder. But for blacks it's not only that it becomes a referendum upon black culture as a whole.
 
When their kids do bad things like mass shootings? When a black youth or young adult commits violence, its seems to always be attributed to poor parenting and or innate propensity towards violence. When a white young adult does something violent, its said to be a mental illness of some sort. Why is not black violence considered a mental illness (from being driven crazy by white folks), as opposed to poor parenting and innate propensity towards violence?
White kids aren't exempt from blaming parents. You can't always blame parents for everything, regardless of race. I know what I consider "perfect" parents, but their kids are assholes. I do not believe in getting a break for mental illness. If you commit a crime, you serve the time.

Here at USMB whites have generally exempted themselves from any imperfections. Instead of admitting, we have to get the defense of how whites aren't being listened to or explanations by whites like we don't know. We live in a culture whereby whites are the dominant group Molly. This means the norms and standards of society are set by whites and all others must understand and follow them in order to survive. You need to understand this before you start trying to explain to us thinking you can do that because we do not know what it's like to be white.

This is not about white kids blaming their parents. It is about how white society wants to point fingers at black parents for things they do not do to white parents. What Akip is saying for example, when a white kid shoots up a bunch of people it's not attributed to bad parenting but the kid haven a mental disorder. But for blacks it's not only that it becomes a referendum upon black culture as a whole.
I understand what you are saying. It is wrong to make excuses for white kids. If they commit a crime, they should be punished. I don't believe in pampering kids who do wrong. I don't care what race they are.
 
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Welfare made it very easy for women to have kids and for men to abandon them.
why would welfare impact blacks more than whites....and not make white culture fail also?
We have a better culture. Not all cultures are equal.

If your culture was so damn much better why do you white folks appropriate so much of ours?

Whites are where they are today because of legislation. Yes, I am saying that everything you whites have is the result of the government giving it to you.
Black people have taken far more from us than the other way around. Quit deluding yourself.

Wrong answer. Quit deluding yourself.
The language you used in your post comes from us, and the computer you used as well. YOU'RE WELCOME!
 
When their kids do bad things like mass shootings? When a black youth or young adult commits violence, its seems to always be attributed to poor parenting and or innate propensity towards violence. When a white young adult does something violent, its said to be a mental illness of some sort. Why is not black violence considered a mental illness (from being driven crazy by white folks), as opposed to poor parenting and innate propensity towards violence?

This recent shooter in Florida didn't have any parents, his adopted mom died a year ago and he was staying in a couples home that didn't see the problems..They didn't see the signs.

I don't even think that there are any black mass shooters is there?

Lee Boyd Malvo.
Since 1982, there have been 56 white mass shooters and 16 black mass shooters. Those numbers almost perfectly reflect the difference between the two population percentages.

What isn't reflected is that they don't include gang shootings in the mass shooter category. If you included those, black mass shootings would FAR exceed those commited by whites.

You understand that whites do have gangs don't you?

Other than a few white supremacist gangs......

More than that, here are just a few,

Irish Mob


 
why would welfare impact blacks more than whites....and not make white culture fail also?
We have a better culture. Not all cultures are equal.

If your culture was so damn much better why do you white folks appropriate so much of ours?

Whites are where they are today because of legislation. Yes, I am saying that everything you whites have is the result of the government giving it to you.
Black people have taken far more from us than the other way around. Quit deluding yourself.

Wrong answer. Quit deluding yourself.
The language you used in your post comes from us, and the computer you used as well. YOU'RE WELCOME!

Nah, the language I used comes from me. And the computer I use, well you better check yourself here white boy, because it did not come just from whites.
 
We have a better culture. Not all cultures are equal.

If your culture was so damn much better why do you white folks appropriate so much of ours?

Whites are where they are today because of legislation. Yes, I am saying that everything you whites have is the result of the government giving it to you.
Black people have taken far more from us than the other way around. Quit deluding yourself.

Wrong answer. Quit deluding yourself.
The language you used in your post comes from us, and the computer you used as well. YOU'RE WELCOME!

Nah, the language I used comes from me. And the computer I use, well you better check yourself here white boy, because it did not come just from whites.
Your language, your computer, the internet, every musical instrument in your music and the equipment used to record it, your tennis shoes, your sports jerseys, your cars, barber shops, hair straighteners, skin bleaching, movies, guns, malt liquor, beer, all the ingredients in sizzurp, fast food, fried chicken, etc, etc, etc. There is literally nothing that you guys like that didn't come from us.

YOU'RE WELCOME!
 
I am not Irish and I cannot look at a person and tell that they are Irish. Can you?
Statistics can and do. Defending the murder rate among blacks by claiming they were slaves 150 years ago and oppressed 50 years ago is simply stupid.

You might see it as stupid.....but it is FACT and TRUTH. Africans who immigrate to America do not demonstrate the same behavior. Ergo...it seems more rooted in historical experience than color.
The black murder rate wasn't anywhere near as high before the civil rights era as it is today. What happened? I'll tell you... fathers abandon their children in the black community today, hence the crazy high murder rate.

The failure of modern black culture is to blame; not slavery.

drugs and the war on drugs

Stop selling and doing drugs.
Problem solved.

Really?

When It Comes To Illegal Drug Use, White America Does The Crime, Black America Gets The Time

White Americans are more likely than black Americans to have used most kinds of illegal drugs, including cocaine, marijuana and LSD. Yet blacks are far more likely to go to prison for drug offenses.

This discrepancy forms the backdrop of a new legislative proposal in California, which aims to reduce the disproportionate incarceration of black people in the state. Supporters of the bill, SB 649, point to some striking national data.

Nearly 20 percent of whites have used cocaine, compared with 10 percent of blacks and Latinos, according to a 2011 survey from the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration — the most recent data available.

Higher percentages of whites have also tried hallucinogens, marijuana, pain relievers like OxyContin, and stimulants like methamphetamine, according to the survey. Crack is more popular among blacks than whites, but not by much.

When It Comes To Illegal Drug Use, White America Does The Crime, Black America Gets The Time | HuffPost

Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks

Black youth are arrested for drug crimes at a rate ten times higher than that of whites. But new research shows that young African Americans are actually less likely to use drugs and less likely to develop substance use disorders, compared to whites, Native Americans, Hispanics and people of mixed race.

“Our goal is to alert people to the burden of drug problems and also to how some of our concern about who has these problems may not be true,” says Dr. Dan Blazer, senior author of the study and a professor of psychiatry at Duke University. “There’s a perception among many individuals that African Americans as a group — regardless of socioeconomic status — tend to abuse or use drugs at higher rate and this [does not support] that.”

Using data from 72,561 youth interviewed for the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, researchers found that 37% of those aged between 12 and 17 had used alcohol or other drugs at least once in the past year. Nearly 8% met criteria for a substance use disorder — either the less severe “substance abuse” diagnosis or the more problematic “substance dependence,” which is more commonly known as addiction.

The study, which was published Monday in the Archives of General Psychiatry, controlled for variables like socioeconomic status because rates of severe drug problems tend to be greater amongst the poor. Despite this, Native American youth fared worst, with 15% having a substance use disorder, compared to 9.2% for people of mixed racial heritage, 9.0% for whites, 7.7% for Hispanics, 5% for African Americans and 3.5% for Asians and Pacific Islanders.

Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com

How White Users Made Heroin a Public-Health Problem

The response to the rise in heroin use follows patterns we've seen over decades of drug scares. When the perception of the user population is primarily people of color, then the response is to demonize and punish. When it's white, then we search for answers. Think of the difference between marijuana attitudes in the "reefer madness" days of the 1930s when the drug was perceived to be used in the "racy" parts of town, and then the 1960s (white) college town explosion in use.

When Does a Drug Epidemic Get Treated as a Public-Health Problem?

Sometimes it's better to shut the pie hole wen you are up against people who know what they are talking about.

Problem solved.
 
If your culture was so damn much better why do you white folks appropriate so much of ours?

Whites are where they are today because of legislation. Yes, I am saying that everything you whites have is the result of the government giving it to you.
Black people have taken far more from us than the other way around. Quit deluding yourself.

Wrong answer. Quit deluding yourself.
The language you used in your post comes from us, and the computer you used as well. YOU'RE WELCOME!

Nah, the language I used comes from me. And the computer I use, well you better check yourself here white boy, because it did not come just from whites.
Your language, your computer, the internet, every musical instrument in your music and the equipment used to record it, your tennis shoes, your sports jerseys, your cars, barber shops, hair straighteners, skin bleaching, movies, guns, malt liquor, beer, all the ingredients in sizzurp, fast food, fried chicken, etc, etc, etc. There is literally nothing that you guys like that didn't come from us.

YOU'RE WELCOME!

Not so.
 

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