Why has the right abandoned small government?

[Brain357]

Conservative voters get suckered by rhetoric and platitudes and slogans and plans that never come to fruition. Look at what Trump has done to the deficit.

Simple fix: The GOP has to cut spending first, before it cuts taxes. Let it run on cutting Social Security and Medicare and Welfare and various departments and see if it gets elected. Then make the cuts. THEN cut taxes.

Let's see the party of fiscal responsibility be fiscally responsible.
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The problem is they've tried and failed. Sp we have to cut the edges and I think Trump is working on that. Cutting departmenta by 10% is a good start, eventually we will have to deal with entitlements, the sooner the better

Tru p will never do it.

If you cut Government spending by 10%, it will hurt the economy & trump rather dupe his dotard masses than do that.

The economy would boom if we cut government spending by 10%. Government can't spend a dime without taking it from you first.

Isn't if fascinating that deficits increase dramatically with such low unemployment? That is so messed up.

 

[Brain357]

Conservative voters get suckered by rhetoric and platitudes and slogans and plans that never come to fruition. Look at what Trump has done to the deficit.

Simple fix: The GOP has to cut spending first, before it cuts taxes. Let it run on cutting Social Security and Medicare and Welfare and various departments and see if it gets elected. Then make the cuts. THEN cut taxes.

Let's see the party of fiscal responsibility be fiscally responsible.
.

The problem is they've tried and failed. Sp we have to cut the edges and I think Trump is working on that. Cutting departmenta by 10% is a good start, eventually we will have to deal with entitlements, the sooner the better

Tru p will never do it.

If you cut Government spending by 10%, it will hurt the economy & trump rather dupe his dotard masses than do that.

How?
Even with the shutdown the economy was fine.

We don't yet know the effect on the economy of the shutdown. I suspect it will have slowed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...9a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.cc364351fb98

 

[rightwinger]

Small government is for small minds

No major nation on earth operates on a small government concept

 

[bripat9643]

You mean like every program Dims have ever proposed? Kasich added millions of Ohioans to Medicaid. That will never be revoked.

The USA is a low tariff country. That's how China, South Korea and Europe take advantage of us.

You should watch.

I've read every book Friedman ever wrote.

The bottom line is that we have a problem with countries like China that steal our technology, violate our copyrights and systematically loot our country. Tariffs are about the only way to deal with these criminals.

I agree stealing technology and violating copyright is bad. So why don't we stop buying anything from them? I suspect they would stop stealing a lot faster than taxing ourselves will work.

And you imagine that would be better than Trump's strategy?

I suspect it would be more effective. Of course first you would have to sue them and if they refused to pay up get more serious. Other countries would probably be happy to join in with us since they steal everyone technology and copyrights.

A total ban on Chinese products would be devastating to many American companies. Furthermore, how wold that be compliant with Republican values that you pretend to be so fond of?

 

[rightwinger]

Conservative voters get suckered by rhetoric and platitudes and slogans and plans that never come to fruition. Look at what Trump has done to the deficit.

Simple fix: The GOP has to cut spending first, before it cuts taxes. Let it run on cutting Social Security and Medicare and Welfare and various departments and see if it gets elected. Then make the cuts. THEN cut taxes.

Let's see the party of fiscal responsibility be fiscally responsible.
.

You cannot show anything that Trump has or has not done to the deficit. All you can do is show what the liberals in the media say he has done.

He hasn't decreased them, that is for sure.

You cannot show anything that Trump has or has not done to the deficit. All you can do is show what the liberals in the media say he has done.

The only thing for sure is that you will spew more media garbage declaring it the truth. lol

Tax cuts and increased spending

 

[bripat9643]

Small government is for small minds

No major nation on earth operates on a small government concept

No dog has never had fleas. That doesn't make fleas beneficial for dogs.

 

[Brain357]

You should watch.

I've read every book Friedman ever wrote.

The bottom line is that we have a problem with countries like China that steal our technology, violate our copyrights and systematically loot our country. Tariffs are about the only way to deal with these criminals.

I agree stealing technology and violating copyright is bad. So why don't we stop buying anything from them? I suspect they would stop stealing a lot faster than taxing ourselves will work.

And you imagine that would be better than Trump's strategy?

I suspect it would be more effective. Of course first you would have to sue them and if they refused to pay up get more serious. Other countries would probably be happy to join in with us since they steal everyone technology and copyrights.

I total ban on Chinese products would be devastating to many American companies. Furthermore, how wold that be compliant with Republican values that you pretend to be so fond of?

You are confident they wouldn't pay when we sue them? So when are you expecting great results from our tariffs? Nafta results were very weak.

 

[rightwinger]

Small government is for small minds

No major nation on earth operates on a small government concept

No dog has never had fleas. That doesn't make fleas beneficial for dogs.

Ball is in your court

Name a major country that runs on small government

 

[bripat9643]

Small government is for small minds

No major nation on earth operates on a small government concept

No dog has never had fleas. That doesn't make fleas beneficial for dogs.

Ball is in your court

Name a major country that runs on small government

What do you imagine that would prove? As I said, show me a dog that has never had fleas.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Small government is for small minds

No major nation on earth operates on a small government concept

We dont care what others do, we were the first republic, sonde Rome and it turned out ok.
Just learn tondonshit guy yourself and get out of other people's business

 

[buckeye45_73]

Conservative voters get suckered by rhetoric and platitudes and slogans and plans that never come to fruition. Look at what Trump has done to the deficit.

Simple fix: The GOP has to cut spending first, before it cuts taxes. Let it run on cutting Social Security and Medicare and Welfare and various departments and see if it gets elected. Then make the cuts. THEN cut taxes.

Let's see the party of fiscal responsibility be fiscally responsible.
.

The problem is they've tried and failed. Sp we have to cut the edges and I think Trump is working on that. Cutting departmenta by 10% is a good start, eventually we will have to deal with entitlements, the sooner the better

Tru p will never do it.

If you cut Government spending by 10%, it will hurt the economy & trump rather dupe his dotard masses than do that.

How?
Even with the shutdown the economy was fine.

We don't yet know the effect on the economy of the shutdown. I suspect it will have slowed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...9a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.cc364351fb98

I doubt it, only the employees of the fed govt were impacted, Noone cared outside the media and democrats

 

[rightwinger]

Small government is for small minds

No major nation on earth operates on a small government concept

No dog has never had fleas. That doesn't make fleas beneficial for dogs.

Ball is in your court

Name a major country that runs on small government

What do you imagine that would prove? As I said, show me a dog that has never had fleas.

Makes no sense Finger Boy
Answer the question or admit defeat

 

[rightwinger]

Conservative voters get suckered by rhetoric and platitudes and slogans and plans that never come to fruition. Look at what Trump has done to the deficit.

Simple fix: The GOP has to cut spending first, before it cuts taxes. Let it run on cutting Social Security and Medicare and Welfare and various departments and see if it gets elected. Then make the cuts. THEN cut taxes.

Let's see the party of fiscal responsibility be fiscally responsible.
.

The problem is they've tried and failed. Sp we have to cut the edges and I think Trump is working on that. Cutting departmenta by 10% is a good start, eventually we will have to deal with entitlements, the sooner the better

Tru p will never do it.

If you cut Government spending by 10%, it will hurt the economy & trump rather dupe his dotard masses than do that.

How?
Even with the shutdown the economy was fine.

We don't yet know the effect on the economy of the shutdown. I suspect it will have slowed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...9a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.cc364351fb98

I doubt it, only the employees of the fed govt were impacted, Noone cared outside the media and democrats

Trump folded to Pelosi

 

[buckeye45_73]

Small government is for small minds

No major nation on earth operates on a small government concept

No dog has never had fleas. That doesn't make fleas beneficial for dogs.

Ball is in your court

Name a major country that runs on small government

What do you imagine that would prove? As I said, show me a dog that has never had fleas.

Makes no sense Finger Boy
Answer the question or admit defeat

why, you never do.

 

[buckeye45_73]

The problem is they've tried and failed. Sp we have to cut the edges and I think Trump is working on that. Cutting departmenta by 10% is a good start, eventually we will have to deal with entitlements, the sooner the better

Tru p will never do it.

If you cut Government spending by 10%, it will hurt the economy & trump rather dupe his dotard masses than do that.

How?
Even with the shutdown the economy was fine.

We don't yet know the effect on the economy of the shutdown. I suspect it will have slowed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...9a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.cc364351fb98

I doubt it, only the employees of the fed govt were impacted, Noone cared outside the media and democrats

Trump folded to Pelosi

Nah, Trump playing that 4 D chess yo

 

[Brain357]

Conservative voters get suckered by rhetoric and platitudes and slogans and plans that never come to fruition. Look at what Trump has done to the deficit.

Simple fix: The GOP has to cut spending first, before it cuts taxes. Let it run on cutting Social Security and Medicare and Welfare and various departments and see if it gets elected. Then make the cuts. THEN cut taxes.

Let's see the party of fiscal responsibility be fiscally responsible.
.

The problem is they've tried and failed. Sp we have to cut the edges and I think Trump is working on that. Cutting departmenta by 10% is a good start, eventually we will have to deal with entitlements, the sooner the better

Tru p will never do it.

If you cut Government spending by 10%, it will hurt the economy & trump rather dupe his dotard masses than do that.

How?
Even with the shutdown the economy was fine.

We don't yet know the effect on the economy of the shutdown. I suspect it will have slowed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...9a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.cc364351fb98

I doubt it, only the employees of the fed govt were impacted, Noone cared outside the media and democrats

Lots of private businesses sell to the govt. Those orders weren't coming in when there was no gov employees to place the orders. Airlines were way down because govt employees like to travel.

 

[buckeye45_73]

The problem is they've tried and failed. Sp we have to cut the edges and I think Trump is working on that. Cutting departmenta by 10% is a good start, eventually we will have to deal with entitlements, the sooner the better

Tru p will never do it.

If you cut Government spending by 10%, it will hurt the economy & trump rather dupe his dotard masses than do that.

How?
Even with the shutdown the economy was fine.

We don't yet know the effect on the economy of the shutdown. I suspect it will have slowed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...9a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.cc364351fb98

I doubt it, only the employees of the fed govt were impacted, Noone cared outside the media and democrats

Lots of private businesses sell to the govt. Those orders weren't coming in when there was no gov employees to place the orders. Airlines were way down because govt employees like to travel.

Good point, that can be a lot, but I dont think it will modify it much.

 

[Anathema]

A total ban on Chinese products would be devastating to many American companies. Furthermore, how wold that be compliant with Republican values that you pretend to be so fond of?

If a company needs Chinese materials to do its business then it isn’t an American company. Such a ban would be 109% compliant with the Conservative (if not Republican) ideals of Nationalism and Isolationism.

 

[rightwinger]

Tru p will never do it.

If you cut Government spending by 10%, it will hurt the economy & trump rather dupe his dotard masses than do that.

How?
Even with the shutdown the economy was fine.

We don't yet know the effect on the economy of the shutdown. I suspect it will have slowed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...9a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.cc364351fb98

I doubt it, only the employees of the fed govt were impacted, Noone cared outside the media and democrats

Trump folded to Pelosi

Nah, Trump playing that 4 D chess yo

Trump can’t even figure out Tic Tac Toe

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It has been clear to me for years the right has abandoned small government. As someone who still believes in the teachings of Milton Friedman I find this disturbing. But after 2 years of Republican control and deficits increasing drastically it is obvious small government has been abandoned. Now they are probably slightly less big government than the democrats, but there is no doubt they are big government. Small government economists do not support tariffs or deficits. And they certainly don't support the kinds of special tax deals like Foxconn that the right now champions.

What we have now is two big government parties who support different social issues. Will a small government party emerge or will we become socialists? I'm curious if there are any other real small government people out there.

“Why has the right abandoned small government?”

It can be said that conservatives were never advocates of ‘small government’ to begin with.

Conservatives are for the most part authoritarians; they seek to compel conformity and punish dissent – and have used the authority of the state to accomplish those goals.

Whether it’s denying women their right to privacy or gay Americans their right to equal protection of the law, conservatives have pursued more government, and bigger government, to interfere in the private lives of citizens.

Conservatives have likewise used the authority of the state – more government, bigger government – to place an undue burden on the right to vote with ‘voter ID’ laws and to deny immigrants their right to due process.

And of course there is the paramount example of the right’s love of big government: the military and ‘defense’ spending.

The notion of ‘small government’ is much more than just being hostile to government regulation of private businesses – if conservatives are true advocates of ‘small government,’ then that advocacy must be comprehensive: to aggressively oppose government seeking to violate a woman’s right to privacy or a gay American’s right to marry as they oppose government regulation of business.