Why is Building the Wall Wrong?

[AzogtheDefiler]

Si if these assholes have all the answers why isn’t the bordersecure? Do ya think?

Our border is MORE secure than almost all other countries on the planet....except for Israel that is forced to employ fascist tactics.

LMAO. Every progressive Leftist in this forum is also an anti Semite. It’s a disease.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Will Hurd is a never-Trumper and caters to Hispanics.

Yes, Trump ass licker....you have many, many enemies out there:

Democrats
RINOs
Sane people

Best go back under your bed with your glasses of orange kool-aid......LOL

You’re an anti Semite. You need to punch yourself in the face Fight Club style.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A breach within the Trump cult membership.......(RINO name-calling anyone???....LOL)


U.S. Rep. Will Hurd, a Texas Republican, says President Trump's border wall proposal is "a third-century solution to a 21st-century problem."

"Taking action for action’s sake rarely leads to positive results," he said in a news release. "Our leaders have the solemn obligation to know the proper steps to take before acting upon them."

Hurd represents the state's 23rd Congressional District, which includes parts of San Antonio and extends all the way to the state's western border. The district, one of the largest in the nation, includes hundreds of miles of the U.S. border with Mexico.

"I agree with [U.S. Homeland Security] Secretary John Kelly’s comments during his confirmation hearing that a wall does not solve our security problems," Hurd said. "In fact, building a wall from sea to shining sea would be the most expensive and least effective way to secure the border."

We could use a mine-field and intersecting fields of machine gun fire.

 

[nat4900]

A liberal like you looks at that Ancient Wall and says............Walls are evil .............tear it down.

Actually, moron, I LIKE walls....they're decorative and ancient walls can still attract tourists.........Now, the fucking efficacy of Trump's wall is ZERO and it will do NOTHING but help Trump continue his bullshit spewing.......

Trump will NOT EVER get the House to fund his insanity......PERIOD !!!!..............lol

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Hurd represents the state's 23rd Congressional District, which includes parts of San Antonio and extends all the way to the state's western border.

This pretty much explains his true motivation

 

[bripat9643]

A breach within the Trump cult membership.......(RINO name-calling anyone???....LOL)


U.S. Rep. Will Hurd, a Texas Republican, says President Trump's border wall proposal is "a third-century solution to a 21st-century problem."

"Taking action for action’s sake rarely leads to positive results," he said in a news release. "Our leaders have the solemn obligation to know the proper steps to take before acting upon them."

Hurd represents the state's 23rd Congressional District, which includes parts of San Antonio and extends all the way to the state's western border. The district, one of the largest in the nation, includes hundreds of miles of the U.S. border with Mexico.

"I agree with [U.S. Homeland Security] Secretary John Kelly’s comments during his confirmation hearing that a wall does not solve our security problems," Hurd said. "In fact, building a wall from sea to shining sea would be the most expensive and least effective way to secure the border."

Notice that Trump cult members are NOT addressing that the above statement was made by a TEXAS REPUBLICAN...........One wonders why????.............LOL

He's a RINO who will soon be culled.

 

[nat4900]

Hurd represents the state's 23rd Congressional District, which includes parts of San Antonio and extends all the way to the state's western border.

This pretty much explains his true motivation

NOW, the questions arises......should a republican congressman serve his CONSTITUENTS....or should he lick Trump's ass as you cult members are willing to do?

 

[OKTexas]

A breach within the Trump cult membership.......(RINO name-calling anyone???....LOL)


U.S. Rep. Will Hurd, a Texas Republican, says President Trump's border wall proposal is "a third-century solution to a 21st-century problem."

"Taking action for action’s sake rarely leads to positive results," he said in a news release. "Our leaders have the solemn obligation to know the proper steps to take before acting upon them."

Hurd represents the state's 23rd Congressional District, which includes parts of San Antonio and extends all the way to the state's western border. The district, one of the largest in the nation, includes hundreds of miles of the U.S. border with Mexico.

"I agree with [U.S. Homeland Security] Secretary John Kelly’s comments during his confirmation hearing that a wall does not solve our security problems," Hurd said. "In fact, building a wall from sea to shining sea would be the most expensive and least effective way to secure the border."

So when do you expect to have the removal of walls and doors in your home completed?

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[Carl in Michigan]

NOW, the questions arises......should a republican congressman serve his CONSTITUENTS....or should he lick Trump's ass as you cult members are willing to do?

He can do as he pleases. I'm not required to care. The people he represents is a majority Hispanic area.

• White: 72.6% (non-Hispanic: 26.6%)
• Black: 6.9%

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Trump will NOT EVER get the House to fund his insanity......PERIOD !!!!..............

Probably not. I'm expecting him to bypass this do nothing congress

 

[leftwinger]

Should they remove all existing Wall? Nasty says it is immoral and ineffective.

 

[OKTexas]

Si if these assholes have all the answers why isn’t the bordersecure? Do ya think?

Our border is MORE secure than almost all other countries on the planet....except for Israel that is forced to employ fascist tactics.

That’s why we have 20 million living here illegally? Because our borders are sew secure?

The real number is probably closer to double that.

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[AzogtheDefiler]

A liberal like you looks at that Ancient Wall and says............Walls are evil .............tear it down.

Actually, moron, I LIKE walls....they're decorative and ancient walls can still attract tourists.........Now, the fucking efficacy of Trump's wall is ZERO and it will do NOTHING but help Trump continue his bullshit spewing.......

Trump will NOT EVER get the House to fund his insanity......PERIOD !!!!..............lol

Like walls but you hate Jews. What a pathetic waste of space you are.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Anaïs Mitchell ft. Greg Brown - Why We Build the Wall

 

[OKTexas]

That’s why we have 20 million living here illegally? Because our borders are sew secure?

Here you fucking ignorant turd

Visa Overstays Outnumber Illegal Border Crossings...

One problem at a time, it would be easy to stop visa overstays with a couple of changes in the law, which I'm sure you commies will resist.

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[OKTexas]

A breach within the Trump cult membership.......(RINO name-calling anyone???....LOL)


U.S. Rep. Will Hurd, a Texas Republican, says President Trump's border wall proposal is "a third-century solution to a 21st-century problem."

"Taking action for action’s sake rarely leads to positive results," he said in a news release. "Our leaders have the solemn obligation to know the proper steps to take before acting upon them."

Hurd represents the state's 23rd Congressional District, which includes parts of San Antonio and extends all the way to the state's western border. The district, one of the largest in the nation, includes hundreds of miles of the U.S. border with Mexico.

"I agree with [U.S. Homeland Security] Secretary John Kelly’s comments during his confirmation hearing that a wall does not solve our security problems," Hurd said. "In fact, building a wall from sea to shining sea would be the most expensive and least effective way to secure the border."

Notice that Trump cult members are NOT addressing that the above statement was made by a TEXAS REPUBLICAN...........One wonders why????.............LOL

The idiot can say what he wants, no one has to agree with him.

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[toobfreak]

Border wall....a 3rd century "solution" to a 21st. century problem

And what "21st century" solution do you think is more cost effective at stopping people from going from A to B than a wall, hun? A wall may be 3rd century, but they work VERY WELL at stopping people. Which is why they have been used for 18 centuries.

 

[beautress]

A liberal like you looks at that Ancient Wall and says............Walls are evil .............tear it down.

Actually, moron, I LIKE walls....they're decorative and ancient walls can still attract tourists.........Now, the fucking efficacy of Trump's wall is ZERO and it will do NOTHING but help Trump continue his bullshit spewing.......

Trump will NOT EVER get the House to fund his insanity......PERIOD !!!!..............lol

He isn't without power, nat. If the Mexican government continues to skirt their border responsibilities, the President can declare the mules who mistreat people they bring over here to be the terrorists they are and send troops over the border to destroy their little money-extorting schemas with which they so often burden their touristas, and bring them back again once the insanity stops for once and for all. And he can send the terrorists who are not killed to serve life sentences at Guantanamo bay until the Mexican government pays back the costs they incurred on American taxpayers when and if they are released. Mexico better start thinking of their Pisano classes as worthy human beings and see to it they have employment opportunities in their native country of Mexico. The Mexican government is a very bad neighbor by foisting their cast offs on American taxpayers, but they may start being reasonable to their own people when they realize we're not going to take it anymore without land grants on their side of the border to help us manage the people they refuse jobs and a decent living. I hope it doesn't come to that to make Mexico grow up.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Before the 2006 border fence act, migrants climbed over existing fencing. After the 2006 fence act they either used a 12 foot ladder to go over the fence, walked around the fence or paid a trucker a 100 bucks to hide in the back of the truck. The only difference with the Trump wall is migrant will need a 20 foot ladder and the trucker will charge $150.

Those who don't have $150 will be kept out.

Let me see if you can be the first on this thread:

How come you want people from south of the border to be kept out?

Because they don't have $150?

They sometimes also are put into slavery by people who drive them over the border, are beaten, raped, and made to carry drugs by swallowing them or having them surgically implanted in their bodies. Their children are also abused. But many don’t care about children, as clearly demonstrated by illegals throwing rocks at border enforcement without regard for children, and using them as human shields. Then they cross wherever they can, and don’t know where they are going to stay, work, live, eat, etc. In other words, they are homeless. Obama had tons of them in camps that were not exactly nice accommodations. In other words, jail.


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The problems migrants face in crossing the border are often no worst than problems they face at home, poverty, plagued by gang violence, kidnappings of their children, forced prostitution, extortion, and little or no protection by local police.

People don't leave their homes, subject their families to hunger, disease, and crime in order to earn money for a summer vacation. People do it because their desperate.

If they are so desperate, why did they have children? If I lived in an environment you described, the last thing I would consider is bringing another human being into it.

In essence what your saying is that these people live this way, don't want to do anything about it, and then they become our problem. Why? Wouldn't the solution be to make your country a better place to live? Ask yourself how many Americans confronted their opposition that led to their death? How many other countries have citizens that are doing that today? We still have Americans from time to time dying overseas until this day.

I don't follow world news all that much, but I'm unaware of any revolutions taking place in South America; not even a resistance of any kind.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Nobody can take your job unless you owned it to begin with. So YOU are making a leftist argument.

I didn't say my job in particular, I'm talking about American jobs. Jobs created in this country belong to the people that live in this country. We may be a global economy, but we are not a global country. If an employer wants to hire foreigners, let that employer move to where the foreigners are. Many have done so already.

You have not proven that the current situation keeps wages lower. In FACT, wages are at an all time high and there are plenty of jobs.

For the time being, but that's not always the case, is it? This economy will die down at some point, and then we will be stuck with a bunch of foreigners here who will compete against Americans (who belong here) and then those Americans will end up on some social program. So indirectly, foreigners will be putting Americans on social programs. We simply don't need that. We have enough working capable people on those programs as it is.

The path you've chosen has guaranteed an end to our culture, our foundational principles (which you CLEARLY do not understand) and, consequently, an end to the white race.

No, we on the right are trying to preserve that. You are trying to turn our country into a third world nation. And if it's inevitable, then you are accelerating it tenfold.

There are two important questions that those who advocate for a border wall have never asked me. It would blow their entire case apart IF they had the ability to read the response. You're so wrapped up in parroting the border wall talking points, you will never think to ask questions.

The fact that you won't answer my questions proves, unequivocally, you realize that you're not in a good enough position to believe in the B.S. you promote here every day. You think they are trick questions.

What questions are that?

Where do you get your Rights from? Don't give me a laundry list, but tell me why you REALLY want a wall.

Don't give you a list but I should tell you why I want a wall?

Ray, I'm going to explain this to you one more time. This is not opinion; not left v. right. It's the way it is.

When you advocate that jobs belong to the Americans, you just made a left wing / SOCIALIST argument.

Socialism - noun "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

what is socialism definition - Bing

We're DONE with that. YOU are the socialist because that is what you are advocating. Period.

I agree that we have to look into the future regarding jobs and that is the greatest weakness of what you're proposing. You are not looking five or ten years down the road.

My questions are simple: Where do you get your unalienable Rights from and give me the REAL reason you want a wall around America.

We've already been through that and I gave you several reason. You are asking me to repeat myself which I'm not going to waste time on.

Inalienable rights are something you are born with. Those are rights that cannot be taken away from you or given to you. You have a right to believe in any religion you like even if you're in a country that doesn't allow you to practice it. You have a right to decide on which food you eat unless in a situation where there are few if any choices. You have the right to love somebody or something.

Happy?

I have not asked you about inalienable rights. The question is about unalienable Rights. There's a legal difference. According to the Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

You've been arguing for as long as you've been in the immigration discussion that your Liberty was not at stake and you didn't even realize it was an unalienable Right. So, THERE is your first disconnect with me. Another of your fellow wall kind of guys argued that rights were something the government gave you by way of the Constitution.

You post day in and day out with a laundry list that is examined, found not to be accurate for the most part and then asked what your REAL reason is. Your position changes depending upon who you are addressing and what facts are presented to you. But, at the end of the day, you don't really know what an unalienable Right is, where it comes from, and what it consists of.

Ray, you have missed the boat on this issue. Our constitutional Republic was founded on two very important foundational principles that you know nothing about:

* The Right to own private property
* Unalienable Rights which include, but are not limited to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

A laundry list of excuses to justify your position doesn't cut it. It don't cut it with me and it won't fly in the federal legislature.