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First, you are whitewashing past Republican Presidential candidates for supposedly standing up to the crazies. That's why Reagan gave his first speech after becoming the nominee in Philadelphia MS and Bush II spoke at Bob Jones University, right? I mean, we could go on and on, but you get the point.
The GOP grand strategy also includes pitting the more well off against the less well off, in other words, getting people at one rung on the ladder to blame the people below them for their problems.
Typical "yeah but" response again. I can do it too; gee...according to one thread here, we spent 40K a day protecting Newt Gingrich. Waste. The man was never going to be President. We wasted billions in Iraq that just disappeared and did not shorten the war at all. We paid to have Bush land on an aircraft carrier when he could have walked on the next day. We paid to have a sign made that said, "Mission Accomplished" then were there for 9 more years.
Waste knows no Party.
"Yeah but" gets you nowhere.
I'm very comfortable with the discussion of the President's v. Romney's personal finances. Bring it on.
Yeah but..I was no happier with the waste of tax money under the Bush administration than I am under the Obama administration. You on the other hand seem to think that as long as SOME of the money is used for "good" things, then the government wasting money isn't a big deal. Just standard operating procedure and when the government figures out it has wasted so much money that they can't afford to meet their current obligations,certain segments of the population should be fine with sending them more.
As to the topic of tax shelters, I contend that it is complete hypocrisy to suggest that there is anything wrong with Mitt Romney following legal tax laws to lower his tax bill unless you are willing to find the same fault with Obama for following legal tax laws to lower his own tax liabilities. And please, try to address the topic this time.
Nothing is wrong with Mitt taking advantage of tax laws at all. Nothing at all. The optics , however do not look that favorably for Mitt when you consider stashing your money all over the world instead of at the bank at Main Street USA where it could be lent out to others. Perfectly legal; politically stupid.
Yeah, keep bringing it up. Please do.
I don't like the waste any more than you do. But one has to wonder why you brought it up in the context of "Well, the government is just going to waste it anyway so no one should pay taxes.".
Then took the money congress appropriated--1/2 is controlled by the GOP literally and de-facto both houses are controlled by the GOP when one considers the filibuster usage both parties have done in the recent past in the Senate--and Said Obama is wasting it. You're either completely ignorant of the Constitution or basically dishonest.
Which one would you like added to your resume next to your political ineptness. Tell me please and stay on the subject.
well, at least your admitting your part of an evil system.
Romney Will get a bump in the polls after the convention and will be buried by the time the debates are over
You really think Barry's going to tear it up in the debates this time? Sorry, Winger but last time he HAD no record to examine and was running on vague promises of "Hope & Change". Now people understand what hope and change mean and if he tries to do the vague thing again it's going to go over like a lead balloon.
Obama hasn't had a solution to our economic woes for well over two YEARS now. Between you and I...I don't have the faintest idea why he even WANTS another four years. If he gets that second term it's just going to cement his legacy as the man who was woefully over his head with the job he was given. If he lost after one term he might be able to bullshit some folks into buying the whole GOP obstruction thing he's been pedaling. When he hasn't submitted a real buget in six years people are going to be pointing and laughing at him.
Obama is perfectly willing to run on his record........stopping a depression, saving the auto companies, repealing DADT, Obamacare, ending the war in Iraq..........killing OBL
Romney can run on Romneycare, how he intends to repeal middle class tax breaks and further cut taxes on the wealthy
Romney will be at least five points ahead of Obama by GOP convention time then will sky rocket.
Keep wafflin and twitchin.
Guy, look at the graph. Romney has run consistantly behind Obama by about 4 point on average for the last two years...
People don't like Romney. Republicans don't even really like him. And by and large, Americans don't vote for people they don't like personally.
This is a truism.
I still can't get over Romney telling college students to borrow money from their parents. There are probably many parents who would like to borrow some of their kid's student loan money. Truly unbelievable...
Now, a top Romney aide is trying to say the auto bailout was Romney's idea.
that offended your sensitive sensibilities?
petty
What offends me is Romney's dishonesty.
Let's take the Auto Bailout as an example.
2008. After dropping huge amounts of money in Iowa (which he lost to Huckabee) and New Hampshire (which he lost to McCain), Mittens went to Michigan and said he'd do anything, just anything to save the Auto Industry, including having the Federal Government write them a huge blank check. and it worked, he won Michigan and stayed alive until Super Tuesday.
Then the Auto Industry really needed a bailout. It was the first thing on President-elect Obama's plate. And along comes Mitt Romney, being against something because Obama is for it, saying we should let them go bankrupt, screw the UAW (which had already made huge concessions to keep GM afloat) and denouncing what a bad idea it was. And this was his position pretty much since then.
Except now he needs to play in Michigan in order to be really competitive, so now he's saying he was all for the Bailout now that GM is saved and it's popular.
He shiftd in the wind like a weather-vane, while Obama, love him or hate him, made the hard decisions.
Incidently, I think there were some things in the bailout that weren't such good ideas, not the least of which was polishing the Chrysler Turd so the Italians would buy it. But it did save millions of jobs.
You really think Barry's going to tear it up in the debates this time? Sorry, Winger but last time he HAD no record to examine and was running on vague promises of "Hope & Change". Now people understand what hope and change mean and if he tries to do the vague thing again it's going to go over like a lead balloon.
Obama hasn't had a solution to our economic woes for well over two YEARS now. Between you and I...I don't have the faintest idea why he even WANTS another four years. If he gets that second term it's just going to cement his legacy as the man who was woefully over his head with the job he was given. If he lost after one term he might be able to bullshit some folks into buying the whole GOP obstruction thing he's been pedaling. When he hasn't submitted a real buget in six years people are going to be pointing and laughing at him.
Obama is perfectly willing to run on his record........stopping a depression, saving the auto companies, repealing DADT, Obamacare, ending the war in Iraq..........killing OBL
Romney can run on Romneycare, how he intends to repeal middle class tax breaks and further cut taxes on the wealthy
Then why doesn't he and others that support him start stupid threads like this, instead of running on his record?
well, at least your admitting your part of an evil system.
Dude, capitalism isn't evil, but bigotry and wishing violence upon others are.
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Sort of like the hypocrisy of the left, crying about Romney laying people of and shipping jobs overseas, then as soon as the government owns Chrysler and GM, they cut dealerships, laid off workers, sold one company off to a overseas company and now GM is planning on making cars overseas and shipping to the U.S.
Romney will be at least five points ahead of Obama by GOP convention time then will sky rocket.
Keep wafflin and twitchin.
Guy, look at the graph. Romney has run consistantly behind Obama by about 4 point on average for the last two years...
People don't like Romney. Republicans don't even really like him. And by and large, Americans don't vote for people they don't like personally.
This is a truism.
Polls only count on election day, if you are so confident of Obama and his record, why slam Romney for stupid crap.
No, he's not, and you are only showing your stupidity for making such a comment.
You are the only flip flopper here, JoeB, as we all laughed watching you go from GOP candidate to candidate trying to drum up support for anybody but Romney.
Why?
Because Romney is going to trounce Obama, and by extion, you. That is not evit, that is just smart.
Nope, you were the one going on about spelling errors. Either you, or TGG. Doesn't matter.
Romney is not evil, but you are.
You are the flip flopper going from candidate to candidate, knowing MR is going to knock your candidate out in November. We can laugh together about it then.
Nope, you were the one going on about spelling errors. Either you, or TGG. Doesn't matter.
Romney is not evil, but you are.
You are the flip flopper going from candidate to candidate, knowing MR is going to knock your candidate out in November. We can laugh together about it then.
well, at least your admitting your part of an evil system.
Dude, capitalism isn't evil, but bigotry and wishing violence upon others are.
Never wished- or inflicted - violence on anyone who didn't have it coming.
Just that some people really don't understand anything else.
