Why is Obama and Reid Refusing a 1 Year Delay of ACA Individual Mandate?

Why is Obama and Reid Refusing a 1 Year Delay of ACA Individual Mandate?

Serious answer:

Because they lack the authority to do so.

The ACA is current Federal law, in effect for three years now. That certain provisions are being phased in doesn’t change that.

The Executive has nothing to do with amending existing Federal law. And likewise Reid can’t amend Federal law without both Houses of Congress.

There’s also no good reason to amend the ACA to delay the IM, it’s an important part of the law and was upheld as Constitutional by the Supreme Court.

Last, the ACA has nothing to do with Congress’ responsibility to fund the government and ensure the government can pay it’s bills; it makes no sense to bring up the ACA in that context.

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Obama, unconstitutionally, has revised the law 7 times already. They can delay the 'phasing in' of the individual mandate. He just chooses not too

Fact is, he will do for evil big business what he will not do for the common man

Change indeed

-Geaux

If he's 'unconstitutionally' revised the law already, why are you calling for him to do it again?

btw, it's not unconstitutional, except to some extremists like you who see unconstitutional boogie men under the bed every night.
 
You can't give in to hostage takers. Once you do you have confirmed that hostage taking is a winning tactic.

The extremists in the GOP want a tyranny of the minority. You can't let them have that.

Nothing but STATIST PROPOGANDA.

You've already postponed the employer mandates. You have bugs in the system. This gives you an out to fix your broken shit.

The administration has the power to administrate laws. That includes the power to choose to delay implementation of parts of laws if deemed necessary.

The GOP vowed to repeal Obamacare. They're never going to be satisfied with a delay.

Politically, they want a delay because once the exchanges are up and running and working, there will be no support for closing them down with an Obamacare repeal.

Also politically, the GOP wants a delay so they don't have to run against Obamacare in place in 2014.

Now that is an answer.

I can dig it

-Geaux
 
Southwest Airlines get 6 million visitors a month.

Obamacare got 7 million in one day.

No wonder the servers crashed. No one anticipated how hungry Americans are for health care. Thank God Republicans believe in "let him die". Hopefully, they quickly reduce their own numbers.

It could be the 7 Million plus who are losing their coverage via CBO reports.

Since they lost their insurance, they must have all went to the server to look at their options to replace it.

Seven million will lose insurance under Obama health law - Washington Times

If you like your insurance plan you will get to keep it...........................
I will save every American $2500 a year on their insurance......................

BS ALERT. Order the Bulldozer back as the shit's getting deep.
 
The stupidity of the Tea party in particular and the Repubs in general is astounding.

They think that if this "strategy" of theirs, of holding the full faith and credit of the nation as a bargaining chip for what they want, wouldn't be used against them by Dems when/if the situation in Congress were to flip flop.

That's what you call stupid and short sighted thinking. But we are speaking of to days republicans.
 
Hey, the GOP radicals have gotten what they wanted...

...a government shutdown. Enjoy it.
 
Serious answer:

Because they lack the authority to do so.

The ACA is current Federal law, in effect for three years now. That certain provisions are being phased in doesn’t change that.

The Executive has nothing to do with amending existing Federal law. And likewise Reid can’t amend Federal law without both Houses of Congress.

There’s also no good reason to amend the ACA to delay the IM, it’s an important part of the law and was upheld as Constitutional by the Supreme Court.

Last, the ACA has nothing to do with Congress’ responsibility to fund the government and ensure the government can pay it’s bills; it makes no sense to bring up the ACA in that context.

????

Obama, unconstitutionally, has revised the law 7 times already. They can delay the 'phasing in' of the individual mandate. He just chooses not too

Fact is, he will do for evil big business what he will not do for the common man

Change indeed

-Geaux

If he's 'unconstitutionally' revised the law already, why are you calling for him to do it again?

btw, it's not unconstitutional, except to some extremists like you who see unconstitutional boogie men under the bed every night.

Because he revised the law on his own without Congress approval. That's what made it unconstitutional

The delay for individual mandate in this manner would be legislation

The way it's suppose to work

-Geaux
 
Serious question. This could all end if Obama would give the American people what he gave the 1%, big business, a 1 year delay. Just like he did for the Catholic Church as well.

Why not us?

Let those that want to sign up now do so. For the rest, give them a year,

And remember, Obama is appeasing the very folks he campaigned against.

-Geaux

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Corporations are not people, my friend.

The individual mandate is the core of the plan.
The penalty in year one is $95. That is actually a break. It should be more. It only effects people who refuse to take personal responsibility for their own health care.

By the way, the delay that the GOP is asking for kills the opt in part of your plan. They want the whole thing delayed for everyone.

No, they want it gone, and so do I.

It's another program that takes down the path of financial oblivion.

If we don't reverse course, these arguments will eventually be academic, as we run off the cliff to our eventual economic doom.
 
Serious question. This could all end if Obama would give the American people what he gave the 1%, big business, a 1 year delay. Just like he did for the Catholic Church as well.

Why not us?

Let those that want to sign up now do so. For the rest, give them a year,

And remember, Obama is appeasing the very folks he campaigned against.

-Geaux


Serious answer. Why should Obama and the Dems give up ANYTHING?

You rethugs put yourself into this position. Now lets see you get yourselves out.

And quit begging for help. It's not very seemly for you bad ass republicans to be asking Dems for help in getting your tit out of a wringer.

No, just take your ass whipping and shut up. There won't be any negotiating.

That does not answer my question? If you feel it does the answer this-

Why give in to big business then? Was that not principal as well? I mean, evil big business we heard so much about?

Really?

-Geaux

The delay in the employer mandate effects only 1% of businesses. Stop acting like it helps GM or Coca Cola. They already offer health insurance.
 
Serious question. This could all end if Obama would give the American people what he gave the 1%, big business, a 1 year delay. Just like he did for the Catholic Church as well.

Why not us?

Let those that want to sign up now do so. For the rest, give them a year,

And remember, Obama is appeasing the very folks he campaigned against.

-Geaux

The individual mandate is the key to the program.

Otherwise, you'd only have people signing up for insurance when they were sick, and that would collapse the current system. Everyone knows this.

Now, while we could have avoided this whole mess by allowing a public option, the GOP fought tooth and nail against that, and some Democrats as well. So this is what we are stuck with.
 
Hey, the GOP radicals have gotten what they wanted...

...a government shutdown. Enjoy it.

I'd shut it down until their is a balanced budget deal. It boils down to unsustainable debt, and if shutting it down is the only way to cut up the Federal Credit Cards, then so be it.

The time of continued kicking the can down the road needs to end.
 
You can't give in to hostage takers. Once you do you have confirmed that hostage taking is a winning tactic.

The extremists in the GOP want a tyranny of the minority. You can't let them have that.

Really? That's not logical.

-Geaux
Using Carby logic, we should storm the Senate and take the terrorists out. After all, if you don't give into terrorists, then you must want to stop them.....
 
????

Obama, unconstitutionally, has revised the law 7 times already. They can delay the 'phasing in' of the individual mandate. He just chooses not too

Fact is, he will do for evil big business what he will not do for the common man

Change indeed

-Geaux

If he's 'unconstitutionally' revised the law already, why are you calling for him to do it again?

btw, it's not unconstitutional, except to some extremists like you who see unconstitutional boogie men under the bed every night.

Because he revised the law on his own without Congress approval. That's what made it unconstitutional

The delay for individual mandate in this manner would be legislation

The way it's suppose to work

-Geaux

No, it's a WAY it can work.

So is what Obama did.

But let's be honest here, you are against the WHOLE law, not just giving a delay to the 1% of businesses that can't afford to pay their employees health care. (And probably shouldn't be doing business to start with.)
 
You can't give in to hostage takers. Once you do you have confirmed that hostage taking is a winning tactic.

The extremists in the GOP want a tyranny of the minority. You can't let them have that.

omg, you people are hilarious AND sick all rolled into one

Obama and his wicked REGIME is holding the whole country hostage, our parks, memorials, over something he has done ALREADY with others... but you sheep baaa baaa baaa

That is just SAD
 
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You can't give in to hostage takers. Once you do you have confirmed that hostage taking is a winning tactic.

The extremists in the GOP want a tyranny of the minority. You can't let them have that.

omg, you people are hilarious AND sick all rolled into one

Obama and his wicked REGIME is holding the whole country hostage, our parks, memorials, over something he has done ALREADY with others... but you sheep baaa baaa baaa

That is just SAD

Oh, no, not our PARKS.

Parks have to be paid for, and Congress isn't paying for them.
 
Hey, the GOP radicals have gotten what they wanted...

...a government shutdown. Enjoy it.

I'd shut it down until their is a balanced budget deal. It boils down to unsustainable debt, and if shutting it down is the only way to cut up the Federal Credit Cards, then so be it.

The time of continued kicking the can down the road needs to end.
They agreed on the appropriations levels. You must have missed that part. The Dems gave them the Paul Ryan numbers.
 
Serious question. This could all end if Obama would give the American people what he gave the 1%, big business, a 1 year delay. Just like he did for the Catholic Church as well.

Why not us?

Let those that want to sign up now do so. For the rest, give them a year,

And remember, Obama is appeasing the very folks he campaigned against.

-Geaux


Because by doing so he'd be rewarding the GOP for shutting down government (again).

Look I don't even support ACA, and even I want Obama to stick to his guns on this one.

What the GOP is doing now show the American people just how petulant this party has become.
 
Serious question. This could all end if Obama would give the American people what he gave the 1%, big business, a 1 year delay. Just like he did for the Catholic Church as well.

Why not us?

Let those that want to sign up now do so. For the rest, give them a year,

And remember, Obama is appeasing the very folks he campaigned against.

-Geaux

He is not negotiating Obamacare. Boehner needs to open the government and get to work.
 
Hey, the GOP radicals have gotten what they wanted...

...a government shutdown. Enjoy it.

I'd shut it down until their is a balanced budget deal. It boils down to unsustainable debt, and if shutting it down is the only way to cut up the Federal Credit Cards, then so be it.

The time of continued kicking the can down the road needs to end.
They agreed on the appropriations levels. You must have missed that part. The Dems gave them the Paul Ryan numbers.

aka 988 BILLION versus the 1.05 Trillion wanted by the Dems.

It failed to take defund Obamacare which is the crutch of this argument. Finally both sides failed to cut the deficit in their resolution debate.

The GOP only offered that much as a carrot to defund Obamacare. You will have to include budget cuts before this thing ends. It will not end with this shut down either. It only postpones the next one in 2 months.
 
You can't give in to hostage takers. Once you do you have confirmed that hostage taking is a winning tactic.

The extremists in the GOP want a tyranny of the minority. You can't let them have that.

omg, you people are hilarious AND sick all rolled into one

Obama and his wicked REGIME is holding the whole country hostage, our parks, memorials, over something he has done ALREADY with others... but you sheep baaa baaa baaa

That is just SAD

Oh, no, not our PARKS.

Parks have to be paid for, and Congress isn't paying for them.

Individual resolutions were passed in areas of concern as stated by the President. He bitched about it, and Congress gave funding bills for these areas.

Reid and the Dems in the Senate refused these offers to send them back to work, saying they will not piece meal the process.

They are not at work today because they refused to pass them.

If the Dems cared about their jobs, they would have signed it and complained about the piece meal bills from the House, BUT THEY DIDN'T.

They played politics over their jobs. They could have already sent them back to work.
 

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