Why is Obama and Reid Refusing a 1 Year Delay of ACA Individual Mandate?

[NYcarbineer]

????

Obama, unconstitutionally, has revised the law 7 times already. They can delay the 'phasing in' of the individual mandate. He just chooses not too

Fact is, he will do for evil big business what he will not do for the common man

Change indeed

-Geaux

If he's 'unconstitutionally' revised the law already, why are you calling for him to do it again?

btw, it's not unconstitutional, except to some extremists like you who see unconstitutional boogie men under the bed every night.

Because he revised the law on his own without Congress approval. That's what made it unconstitutional

The delay for individual mandate in this manner would be legislation

The way it's suppose to work

-Geaux

So legislation is the way it's supposed to work?

As opposed to taking the government hostage, or threatening to force the government to default on its financial obligation?

 

[Stephanie]

If he's 'unconstitutionally' revised the law already, why are you calling for him to do it again?

btw, it's not unconstitutional, except to some extremists like you who see unconstitutional boogie men under the bed every night.

Because he revised the law on his own without Congress approval. That's what made it unconstitutional

The delay for individual mandate in this manner would be legislation

The way it's suppose to work

-Geaux

So legislation is the way it's supposed to work?

As opposed to taking the government hostage, or threatening to force the government to default on its financial obligation?

the Democrats and this THUG PRESIDENT COULD PUT a stop to all this ANYTIME
so if we default on anything it will be ON THEM

 

[NYcarbineer]

The President needs to stand up to the bullying and not give an inch. He should not even let the GOP radicals save face on this one.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Because he revised the law on his own without Congress approval. That's what made it unconstitutional

The delay for individual mandate in this manner would be legislation

The way it's suppose to work

-Geaux

So legislation is the way it's supposed to work?

As opposed to taking the government hostage, or threatening to force the government to default on its financial obligation?

the Democrats and this THUG PRESIDENT COULD PUT a stop to all this ANYTIME
so if we default on anything it will be ON THEM

The problem with your thinking is that normal America doesn't agree with you.

 

[eagle1462010]

And the GOP needs to stand up to the Abuses of Power from the Dems..........

No deal. Who blinks first Chess going on now.

 

[eagle1462010]

Why aren't the Dems proposing budget cuts to compromise on the situation...............

They do the opposite. Ask to pay for Sequester in their budget plans and increase deficits again. Even though they should have found areas to cut instead of the auto Sequester cuts.

 

[Stephanie]

So legislation is the way it's supposed to work?

As opposed to taking the government hostage, or threatening to force the government to default on its financial obligation?

the Democrats and this THUG PRESIDENT COULD PUT a stop to all this ANYTIME
so if we default on anything it will be ON THEM

The problem with your thinking is that normal America doesn't agree with you.

The hell if they don't...none of these politicians, newspapers, the lapdog media or polls KNOW what NORMAL Americans THINK

Obama's approvals were already in the 30's, so don't stake your dear leader loving lives on, they DON'T AGREE...

 

[G.T.]

Because it's one of the main drivers of the law, without it, the law does not work.

Asking to delay the ind. mandate is the same suggestion as defunding it, just dressed up in different clothes so-as to give the appearance of compromising on something.

 

[G.T.]

the Democrats and this THUG PRESIDENT COULD PUT a stop to all this ANYTIME
so if we default on anything it will be ON THEM

The problem with your thinking is that normal America doesn't agree with you.

The hell if they don't...none of these politicians, newspapers, the lapdog media or polls KNOW what NORMAL Americans THINK

Obama's approvals were already in the 30's, so don't stake your dear leader loving lives on, they DON'T AGREE...

You're not a normal American.

Also - in the same post that you just called polls bunk, you made your second point by pointing to poll numbers.

Take a break, your brain is faulty.

 

[G.T.]

Why aren't the Dems proposing budget cuts to compromise on the situation...............

They do the opposite. Ask to pay for Sequester in their budget plans and increase deficits again. Even though they should have found areas to cut instead of the auto Sequester cuts.

Huh?

Their clean CR has the Republican-requested spending levels in it.

 

[eagle1462010]

Why aren't the Dems proposing budget cuts to compromise on the situation...............

They do the opposite. Ask to pay for Sequester in their budget plans and increase deficits again. Even though they should have found areas to cut instead of the auto Sequester cuts.

Huh?

Their clean CR has the Republican-requested spending levels in it.

It was an offer ONLY IF they defunded Obamacare............

Do you really think you'll walk away from this Shutdown without concessions.................

Better start deciding on Budget cut decisions in the final scenario.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You can't give in to hostage takers. Once you do you have confirmed that hostage taking is a winning tactic.

The extremists in the GOP want a tyranny of the minority. You can't let them have that.

So, screw the little man while giving insurance companies a break.

 

[G.T.]

Why aren't the Dems proposing budget cuts to compromise on the situation...............

They do the opposite. Ask to pay for Sequester in their budget plans and increase deficits again. Even though they should have found areas to cut instead of the auto Sequester cuts.

Huh?

Their clean CR has the Republican-requested spending levels in it.

It was an offer ONLY IF they defunded Obamacare............

Do you really think you'll walk away from this Shutdown without concessions.................

Better start deciding on Budget cut decisions in the final scenario.

im not a senator

 

[jasonnfree]

Serious question. This could all end if Obama would give the American people what he gave the 1%, big business, a 1 year delay. Just like he did for the Catholic Church as well.

Why not us?

Let those that want to sign up now do so. For the rest, give them a year,

And remember, Obama is appeasing the very folks he campaigned against.

-Geaux

When liberals complain about the 1%, your side says get over it and stop being so jealous, but your side is now worrying about the 1%. "Get over it and stop being so jealous" we now say.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'd shut it down until their is a balanced budget deal. It boils down to unsustainable debt, and if shutting it down is the only way to cut up the Federal Credit Cards, then so be it.

The time of continued kicking the can down the road needs to end.

They agreed on the appropriations levels. You must have missed that part. The Dems gave them the Paul Ryan numbers.

aka 988 BILLION versus the 1.05 Trillion wanted by the Dems.

It failed to take defund Obamacare which is the crutch of this argument. Finally both sides failed to cut the deficit in their resolution debate.

The GOP only offered that much as a carrot to defund Obamacare. You will have to include budget cuts before this thing ends. It will not end with this shut down either. It only postpones the next one in 2 months.

Yes...988 billion....the GOP number was agreed to by the Dems.....unwillingly. That is what compromise is. Asshole.

 

[eagle1462010]

They agreed on the appropriations levels. You must have missed that part. The Dems gave them the Paul Ryan numbers.

aka 988 BILLION versus the 1.05 Trillion wanted by the Dems.

It failed to take defund Obamacare which is the crutch of this argument. Finally both sides failed to cut the deficit in their resolution debate.

The GOP only offered that much as a carrot to defund Obamacare. You will have to include budget cuts before this thing ends. It will not end with this shut down either. It only postpones the next one in 2 months.

Yes...988 billion....the GOP number was agreed to by the Dems.....unwillingly. That is what compromise is. Asshole.

BS

Plus the funding for Obamacare.............asshole.............

That's not negotiation. You go to buy a car. The list price is 20,000, you agree to the price. The seller adds 2,000 to the price tag and now says you can buy it for 22,000. What about the list price, the customer asked.

Do you want the Fucking car or not, SAYS THE SALESMAN..................

The customer tells you to Fuck off and goes to another dealership.

There was no compromise. The libs added to the sticker price, aka Obamacare. No deal.

 

[eagle1462010]

Huh?

Their clean CR has the Republican-requested spending levels in it.

It was an offer ONLY IF they defunded Obamacare............

Do you really think you'll walk away from this Shutdown without concessions.................

Better start deciding on Budget cut decisions in the final scenario.

im not a senator

So you post with the excuse of NO INPUT on a board, because you are not in power. Defending those in power and attacking those who argue against your position.

No input to the situation, then you deserve nothing in return from me.

 

[Katzndogz]

Democrats think they are winning the ultimate goal which is destruction of all opposition and one party rule.

Senior Admin. Official: 'We Are Winning...It Doesn't Really Matter to Us' When Shutdown Ends | The Weekly Standard

Although the government shutdown continues, it appears President Barack Obama and the White House are not getting any closer to negotiating with Republicans. A quotation from an unnamed senior administration official in today's Wall Street Journal explains why.

Said a senior administration official: "We are winning...It doesn't really matter to us" how long the shutdown lasts "because what matters is the end result."

With this view, it explains why President Obama won't agree to any piecemeal legislation that would keep Veterans Affairs and NIH open during the shutdown. And it explains why President Obama would rather cancel his Asia trip than negotiate with Republicans.

It's because the White House (or, at least this unnamed official) believe it is "winning" by shutting down the government and blaming Republicans. And when one's winning, he's not likely to change course.

obama intends to default next. To him and his cohorts, this would be the coup de grace.

 

[zeke]

aka 988 BILLION versus the 1.05 Trillion wanted by the Dems.

It failed to take defund Obamacare which is the crutch of this argument. Finally both sides failed to cut the deficit in their resolution debate.

The GOP only offered that much as a carrot to defund Obamacare. You will have to include budget cuts before this thing ends. It will not end with this shut down either. It only postpones the next one in 2 months.

Yes...988 billion....the GOP number was agreed to by the Dems.....unwillingly. That is what compromise is. Asshole.

BS

Plus the funding for Obamacare.............asshole.............

That's not negotiation. You go to buy a car. The list price is 20,000, you agree to the price. The seller adds 2,000 to the price tag and now says you can buy it for 22,000. What about the list price, the customer asked.

Do you want the Fucking car or not, SAYS THE SALESMAN..................

The customer tells you to Fuck off and goes to another dealership.

There was no compromise. The libs added to the sticker price, aka Obamacare. No deal.

Hey love your analogy. Why don't you and those like you do what that car buyer did. Just say "fuck off America, we are gonna go live somewhere else." Please. Hurry.

 

[eagle1462010]

Yes...988 billion....the GOP number was agreed to by the Dems.....unwillingly. That is what compromise is. Asshole.

BS

Plus the funding for Obamacare.............asshole.............

That's not negotiation. You go to buy a car. The list price is 20,000, you agree to the price. The seller adds 2,000 to the price tag and now says you can buy it for 22,000. What about the list price, the customer asked.

Do you want the Fucking car or not, SAYS THE SALESMAN..................

The customer tells you to Fuck off and goes to another dealership.

There was no compromise. The libs added to the sticker price, aka Obamacare. No deal.

Hey love your analogy. Why don't you and those like you do what that car buyer did. Just say "fuck off America, we are gonna go live somewhere else." Please. Hurry.

LOL

In other words you added to the sticker price and say I really didn't do that.

Typical Snake Oil salesman. Sell your wares somewhere else.