Why is the left against securing our elections and why is it always the left whining about how hard it is to vote?

[MaryAnne11]

Don't like the present arrangement?

Then perhaps it's time to establish very detailed Federal standards that each State must follow.

The States have had 230 years to get this right and apparently they're still screwing-up, so...

You can have your Voter ID, which includes a proof-of-citizenship, and a digital cert(ificate) along the lines of the Real ID initiative...

But the other side gets paperless voting... you insert your Real ID... the voting machine checks the database.. then rejects your presence or allows you to vote.

Hell... screw vote-by-mail... anybody with a computer and a cheap smart-card reader can vote online, using two-factor identity verification...

Each county can have one (or a handful of) paper voting stations for folks who resist the newer, better way of doing things, or who need to file a 'provisional'.

And, in place of all those polling-place judges, a small army of electronic system administrators and bipartisan system auditors to keep things honest.

All in a closed-loop system that the Rooskies or Chinese would be hard-pressed to hack, and even immeasurably more difficult to tamper with.

A uniform system with uniform requirements administered uniformly and leaving little room for dispute, generating its results in real time.

Screw the local-yokels and corrupt local and State and regional election authorities... they've had their chance... for 230 years... time for a change.

And... there's always a way around a Constitutional sticking-point or statutory limitation or existing case law... all it takes is a little imagination and money.

You do know absentee is paper? And they are checked against records.

 

[Juicin]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

I think georgia has pretty much broken this narrative

The huge turnout on all sides has ended this debated in learned left leaning circles.....It'll trickle down

I too find it hard to listen to when it's never been easier in American history to vote for anyone. But like i said the last election blew that lie out of the water.

 

[MaryAnne11]

Oh, for God’s sake get off the fantasy train!
Biden won by 8 million votes, 306 electoral votes!

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Yes, no shit, Sherlock!

 

[MaryAnne11]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

I think georgia has pretty much broken this narrative

The huge turnout on all sides has ended this debated in learned left leaning circles.....It'll trickle down

I too find it hard to listen to when it's never been easier in American history to vote for anyone. But like i said the last election blew that lie out of the water.

Only because of a lot of work and determination. The Devil went down to Georgia and lost his power!

 

[busybee01]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

We do not need fingerprints nor do we need law enforcement. This is not a police state. This is designed to intimidate voters. Typicaql Nazi. Putin steals elections but he is not that open about it. Voting should include no excuse absentee balloting just as it did in 2020.

 

[busybee01]

Pffft it was the most honest election in all of human history
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How bad is it when even third world shitholes know what to do ?

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Are you a real moron or a bad liar? These were protestors who were screaming at the vote counters. They should have called the police and had them move the protestors back so they could do their work.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

Bull, you are the ones complaining. Since I quit working the polls I simply apply for an absentee ballot, get it, fill it out and can now follow it online to the count. Simple as ordering online.

Try coming into the real world, go volunteer to work the polls. Your side tried to deny the election, not Democrats. Your fantasy failed in the mob that stormed Congress! Quit lying to yourself. The whiskey ain’t workin’ any more!

Is there some sort of reading comprehension problem you want to confess to us? The question was "why is it always the left whining ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS TO VOTE?" Unless you're now going to prove to us that the right complains ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS TO VOTE, your response is a meaningless and irrelevant attempt to deflect responsibility.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

Made up crap from losers.

That's not a very nice way to talk about yourself and your leftist brethren. Mind you, I agree that it fits everything you've posted so far, but it's still kinda rude.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

We do not need fingerprints nor do we need law enforcement. This is not a police state. This is designed to intimidate voters. Typicaql Nazi. Putin steals elections but he is not that open about it. Voting should include no excuse absentee balloting just as it did in 2020.

Which brings up this question: Why are Democrats intimidated by the mere presence of law enforcement or presenting identification?

I think you just proved his point.

 

[busybee01]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

The Dems are the party of fraud, deceit, and corruption. The party of neo-bolsheviks and Jonathan Pollard, the American-born traitor who was "welcomed home" to israel last week and greeted at the airport by Hebee Bibi. The Dems are anti-American

You people tried to steal a election. Yet you accuse others of fraud, feceit and corruption? The GOP under Trump has redefined those words. They are the kings of fraqud, deceit and corruption.

 

[busybee01]

The elections have been certified. They have been audited. Everything has been done to show the election was legit. Why can't the right just face the fact that trump lost?

The election was stolen on so many levels. Never mind about the outright voter fraud. Just consider the fact that Google, Twitter, and Facebook all actively suppressed stories harmful to the Dems. Most people never even heard about Hunter Biden involving President* Biden in Chinese corruption. All it would have taken is 7200 votes in three key states for a Trump victory--even with the massive vote fraud. The Jew Coup was a fraud.

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They refused to allow their platforms to be used for propaganda like Fox News did. Hunter Biden was not running for President and the story was as phoney as a 3 dollar bill. Biden was not involved in any corruption in China. Fake news.

 

[busybee01]

Don't like the present arrangement?

Then perhaps it's time to establish very detailed Federal standards that each State must follow.

The States have had 230 years to get this right and apparently they're still screwing-up, so...

You can have your Voter ID, which includes a proof-of-citizenship, and a digital cert(ificate) along the lines of the Real ID initiative...

But the other side gets paperless voting... you insert your Real ID... the voting machine checks the database.. then rejects your presence or allows you to vote.

Hell... screw vote-by-mail... anybody with a computer and a cheap smart-card reader can vote online, using two-factor identity verification...

Each county can have one (or a handful of) paper voting stations for folks who resist the newer, better way of doing things, or who need to file a 'provisional'.

And, in place of all those polling-place judges, a small army of electronic system administrators and bipartisan system auditors to keep things honest.

All in a closed-loop system that the Rooskies or Chinese would be hard-pressed to hack, and even immeasurably more difficult to tamper with.

A uniform system with uniform requirements administered uniformly and leaving little room for dispute, generating its results in real time.

Screw the local-yokels and corrupt local and State and regional election authorities... they've had their chance... for 230 years... time for a change.

And... there's always a way around a Constitutional sticking-point or statutory limitation or existing case law... all it takes is a little imagination and money.

You have to show up in person. What is the problem leftists have with voting in person? Why do Republicans not have the same problem?

Why should you if it is not necessary. Republicans urged their voters to vote by mail.

 

[busybee01]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

The left are the true fascist of our time
They’re the 3rd Reich but with a “ happy face “

Looking at yourself in the mirror again? You are the Nazis who declared war on the US.

 

[jbrownson0831]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

Maybe because you guys have a long history of using stunts like this to suppress minority votes.

Let's not forget, the same kinds of arguments were made about literacy tests and poll taxes 50 years ago. We're just making sure that the election has integrity.

Supress minority votes? You mean by having them stand in line and show an ID? Oh the horror!

 

[Cecilie1200]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

The Dems are the party of fraud, deceit, and corruption. The party of neo-bolsheviks and Jonathan Pollard, the American-born traitor who was "welcomed home" to israel last week and greeted at the airport by Hebee Bibi. The Dems are anti-American

You people tried to steal a election. Yet you accuse others of fraud, feceit and corruption? The GOP under Trump has redefined those words. They are the kings of fraqud, deceit and corruption.

"You people tried to steal the election we actually stole!! How DARE you?!?!"

 

[JoeB131]

Literacy tests and poll taxes have nothing to do with voter fraud. It sure does seem odd that Republicans are willing to vote by ID and the Democrats aren't.

No, it doesn't. Republicans know poor people are less likely to have ID on them... or have access to an ID card.

This is about voter suppression, nothing more, nothing less.

You have to show up in person. What is the problem leftists have with voting in person? Why do Republicans not have the same problem?

Why should they have to show up in person. Some people don't have reliable transportation... Some people work minimum wage jobs and can't wait in line for a couple of hours waiting to vote.

Check your privilege, buddy.

We collect taxes by mail, we take census information by mail, there's no reason why we can't take ballots by mail.

 

[Street Juice]

The elections have been certified. They have been audited. Everything has been done to show the election was legit. Why can't the right just face the fact that trump lost?

The election was stolen on so many levels. Never mind about the outright voter fraud. Just consider the fact that Google, Twitter, and Facebook all actively suppressed stories harmful to the Dems. Most people never even heard about Hunter Biden involving President* Biden in Chinese corruption. All it would have taken is 7200 votes in three key states for a Trump victory--even with the massive vote fraud. The Jew Coup was a fraud.

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They refused to allow their platforms to be used for propaganda like Fox News did. Hunter Biden was not running for President and the story was as phoney as a 3 dollar bill. Biden was not involved in any corruption in China. Fake news.

Said like a true Bolshevik. Only Bolshevik propaganda is "true" and everyone else must be silenced. You totalitarian little pig.

 

[Street Juice]

Literacy tests and poll taxes have nothing to do with voter fraud. It sure does seem odd that Republicans are willing to vote by ID and the Democrats aren't.

No, it doesn't. Republicans know poor people are less likely to have ID on them... or have access to an ID card.

This is about voter suppression, nothing more, nothing less.

You have to show up in person. What is the problem leftists have with voting in person? Why do Republicans not have the same problem?

Why should they have to show up in person. Some people don't have reliable transportation... Some people work minimum wage jobs and can't wait in line for a couple of hours waiting to vote.

Check your privilege, buddy.

We collect taxes by mail, we take census information by mail, there's no reason why we can't take ballots by mail.

"No, it doesn't. Republicans know poor people are less likely to have ID on them... or have access to an ID card."​

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Nobody is buying it, Shlomo. Democrats treat poor people like helpless irresponsible incompetent children. But if someone can get it together enough to vote, they can get it together enough to get an ID, which they have to have to buy their 40s anyway. The only reason you people oppose a more honest system is because you are cheaters and cheaters like loose systems with lots of room for fraud.

 

[Kondor3]

...You have to show up in person...

Whatever for? Especially given the present global pandemic. That would actually be unwise, until the pandemic has passed.

So long as reasonable and sufficient controls exist to ensure one-person-one-vote, the medium ( walk-in, mail, electronic, whatever ) makes very little difference.

...What is the problem leftists have with voting in person? Why do Republicans not have the same problem?

Most Republicans have cars and time on their hands to vote. Many Democrats (well, the poorer branch of the clan, anyway) do not.

But the Internet is changing everything, and it will profoundly impact voting procedures far beyond their present state, in the coming years.

 

[eagle7-31]

The right is confident that we have nothing to hide. Can the left say the same? How about voter ID cards with a picture ID and fingerprints as well as a law enforcement presence not more than 100 yards outside all voting stations. Additionally, the law enforcement should be randomly assigned the night of the election.

Boiled down....stuffing the ballot box. There have been Republicans in the past guilty of the same but not on a national scale like with this so called mail in voting in swing states and using Chinese communist dominion software.