C_Clayton_Jones
Diamond Member
The right should oppose Trump as well.
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The right should oppose Trump as well.
Stupid? You are so funny. LOL.I felt the same way about Obama supporters and now Hillary supporters.Im kind of shocked at the level of gullibility it would take to actually be a Trump supporter.
I reconcile these feelings by seeing that he majority of people think its a big joke, too.
How can anyone be this stupid?
Trump is wrong on the issues.
He's not a serious candidate.
And he promotes an agenda of ignorance and hate.
Meet the Liberals Who Think Trump's Good for Democracy
Trump is bringing issues to the front. Liberals do support that. The conservatives could support that.
Campaign finance reform is a bipartisan issue.
Yep. But there are other issues as well.
Such as?
Myth of the STEM shortage, H1B visas, stagnant wages etc. The thing that I find extremely funny is that these are the issues that many of us agree on and if not then a little light can be shed on why these issues are important and then maybe we can agree on them.
That's half the battle.
Still waiting to hear the substance on those issues. As they say the devil is in the details. T-Rump's idea of how to fix them might makes things even worse because he obviously doesn't think things through or understand the legal and diplomatic ramifications of what he is saying.
Right now it is all just "feel good" hot buttons to garner support. I am an Independent. If you want my vote you need to provide feasible and viable solutions. So far T-Rump has come up severely lacking in that respect.
ut American Workers FirstTrump is wrong on the issues.
He's not a serious candidate.
And he promotes an agenda of ignorance and hate.
He never gives details, he gives these one line solution and then its time do a comedy bit. This guy, understands his base, he understands the type of people who'll support people like Palin and he's using this to his advantage.....ignorant, white, stupid hard up rednecks....who'd vote for a wad of toilet paper as long as its anti everything but conservative white.
Oppose the Republican that doesn't want to destroy social security.The right should oppose Trump as well.
I'm still for Bernie Sanders btw.
Yep. I'm not a Democrat. I'm registered independent.I'm still for Bernie Sanders btw.
As an Independent he is the only candidate I have in the running too!![]()
Has anyone noticed how the left has gone from snickering ridicule of Trump to outright caustic animosity in just a few short weeks? Some of our favorite "insane clowns" here are posting some vicious and hostile threads about Trump. Taking every opportunity to run him in the ground any way they can. Looking for any little thing they can jump on and distort or take out of context to try and destroy Trump... even though they maintain he would be the "dream candidate" for the Dems in 2016.
I'm sort of puzzled by this. His positions on the issues are far from "extreme" ...in fact, he is probably one of the most moderate conservatives the base has supported in a long time. How many threads have been posted trying to expose Trump's "liberalism" with former positions he has taken and whatnot? He was a big Clinton supporter, supports universal health care, defends the good things Planned Parenthood does... you'd think the left would be pleased with someone so much in line with what they believe... but they don't seem too happy at all.
In fact, the more he rises in the polls, the more surly and mean they get. I think that it proves nothing is about principle with the left, it's all about political party power. The GOP could literally be nominating the most liberal person in America and the left would be LIVID... doing everything in their power to destroy them because they are running as a Republican and not a Democrat. This is ALL about political power... Above and beyond everything else. It is not about issues or solutions... it's about electing a goddamn Democrat... plain and simple.
I'm still for Bernie Sanders btw.
As an Independent he is the only candidate I have in the running too!![]()
I'm still for Bernie Sanders btw.
As an Independent he is the only candidate I have in the running too!![]()
Except for trump, the rest of the field look & act like a bunch of goose stepping authoritarians saying and doing stupid shit.
Has anyone noticed how the left has gone from snickering ridicule of Trump to outright caustic animosity in just a few short weeks? Some of our favorite "insane clowns" here are posting some vicious and hostile threads about Trump. Taking every opportunity to run him in the ground any way they can. Looking for any little thing they can jump on and distort or take out of context to try and destroy Trump... even though they maintain he would be the "dream candidate" for the Dems in 2016.
I'm sort of puzzled by this. His positions on the issues are far from "extreme" ...in fact, he is probably one of the most moderate conservatives the base has supported in a long time. How many threads have been posted trying to expose Trump's "liberalism" with former positions he has taken and whatnot? He was a big Clinton supporter, supports universal health care, defends the good things Planned Parenthood does... you'd think the left would be pleased with someone so much in line with what they believe... but they don't seem too happy at all.
In fact, the more he rises in the polls, the more surly and mean they get. I think that it proves nothing is about principle with the left, it's all about political party power. The GOP could literally be nominating the most liberal person in America and the left would be LIVID... doing everything in their power to destroy them because they are running as a Republican and not a Democrat. This is ALL about political power... Above and beyond everything else. It is not about issues or solutions... it's about electing a goddamn Democrat... plain and simple.
I'm still for Bernie Sanders btw.
As an Independent he is the only candidate I have in the running too!![]()
Except for trump, the rest of the field look & act like a bunch of goose stepping authoritarians saying and doing stupid shit.
I gather you are referring to your GOP candidates?
Trying not to be facetious...
The Left is neurotically opposed to Trump because he "proves" through his words and deeds that GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE SOLUTION to all of life's problems, and that the means and methods that the Left wishes to rely upon to lift us up out of the darkness are stupid and doomed to failure. Lefties believe in Government Solutions even more fervently than the most strident of Bible Belt Christians believe in the Bible. To say that people can be responsible for themselves is outrageous heresy to the Left.
Trump also puts a spotlight on the folly of what Big Government keeps telling us, for example, that building a Wall is impossible, or that it's impossible to deport millions of people who live here. This is bullshit; we know it, and he is the only politician who is saying out loud that it's bullshit.
His supposed "support" is a statistical anomaly that will correct itself as the Republican field starts to winnow down to a manageable number. But the other R candidates are well-noting the popularity of some of what he is saying, and they will adopt the tasty morsels that remain when he gets bored with it and leaves.
Consider: He is the best known Republican candidate by far, and 75% of Republicans reject him. If John Kasich, Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, or Bobby Jindal were as well-known to R primary voters, and the total number of candidates were down to three or four, any one of them would be leading him in the polls. In due time, Trump will fade, become discouraged, and drop out.
The irony of course is that the Left challenges Trump's qualifications, while the current holder of the Presidency had never accomplished a damn thing before being elected, and in fact, had never even had a real job, let alone an executive position. Har-de-har-har.
Obama had demonstrated that he at least cared about folks.
Im kind of shocked at the level of gullibility it would take to actually be a Trump supporter.
I reconcile these feelings by seeing that he majority of people think its a big joke, too.
I am more opposed to Bush than I am Trump, and am not in any elite. However, I think the part of your post I bolded is the heart of the matter. It is the major part of Trump's and Sander's appeal. They are not anointed by the elites.The left is opposed to Trump because he's a republican. The left would give any republican the same treatment.
The republican elite is opposed to Trump because they had already chosen Jeb Bush. There's no difference between the democrats annointing Hillary Clinton and the Republicans annointing Jeb Bush. The people on both sides are in full revolt against the entire concept of having a handful of people choose the candidates.
Yup.....he just proved that if you make deals with dishonest people (Democrats) you get fucked.