Why Libertarianism Is So Dangerous...

[dblack]

I really do not know that much about what Libertarians believe - I know some of the people who have switched from Republican to Libertarians are great folks. I did find an article on Ron Paul not being a friend to Israel once - not sure if it was true or not - was wondering if that is part of the Libertarian stance on Israel or just a rumor - whatever - do you know? - Jeri

It has nothing to do with Israel itself. It's an extension of the general MYOB ethic of libertarians.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The video is truly fascinating.

So are films on the Holocaust, the actual footage. Fascination does not equal good or worthy.

Excuse me? How is it that you use a Holocaust film for example of what fascinates but is not good or worthy? What is your message exactly here? I must surely be misreading or your wording is wrong. Which is it? - Jeri

You are misreading my correct wordage. Yes, you are not getting it.

 

[RKMBrown]

Nope.

The truth is difficult to swallow, eh Fakey?

Truth is never hard to accept, and one of the truths is that libertarianism is for the weak of mind and the deficient of character. There are a few exceptions. KevinKennedy comes to mind, but not many others.

Coward. Baby killer. Tyrant.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Any mediocre mind, such as yours, TASB, deserves in kind what it gives.

 

[Truthmatters]

Libertarianism is a failed world veiw.


Your clinging to historically failed ideas if you like to pretend libertarianism is viable in the real world

 

[RKMBrown]

Libertarianism is a failed world veiw.


Your clinging to historically failed ideas if you like to pretend libertarianism is viable in the real world

VS what? Fascism? Communism? Socialism?

Put down your bong. Just because you are not willing to fight for freedom does not mean the rest of us are willing to let folks like you run roughshod over the planet.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

So are films on the Holocaust, the actual footage. Fascination does not equal good or worthy.

Excuse me? How is it that you use a Holocaust film for example of what fascinates but is not good or worthy? What is your message exactly here? I must surely be misreading or your wording is wrong. Which is it? - Jeri

You are misreading my correct wordage. Yes, you are not getting it.

Right. So tell me what your point was.

 

[Truthmatters]

Libertarianism is a failed world veiw.


Your clinging to historically failed ideas if you like to pretend libertarianism is viable in the real world

VS what? Fascism? Communism? Socialism?

Put down your bong. Just because you are not willing to fight for freedom does not mean the rest of us are willing to let folks like you run roughshod over the planet.

see nothing of subtance to say in defense of their historically failed ideas

 

[RKMBrown]

Excuse me? How is it that you use a Holocaust film for example of what fascinates but is not good or worthy? What is your message exactly here? I must surely be misreading or your wording is wrong. Which is it? - Jeri

You are misreading my correct wordage. Yes, you are not getting it.

Right. So tell me what your point was.

I figured his point was authoritarianism is fascinating and liberty is boring.

 

[Eric Cartman]

Pretty good.


Why Libertarianism Is So Dangerous - YouTube!

Dumb video.

 

[RKMBrown]

Libertarianism is a failed world veiw.


Your clinging to historically failed ideas if you like to pretend libertarianism is viable in the real world

VS what? Fascism? Communism? Socialism?

Put down your bong. Just because you are not willing to fight for freedom does not mean the rest of us are willing to let folks like you run roughshod over the planet.

see nothing of subtance to say in defense of their historically failed ideas

Huh? You cite Thomas Jefferson in your sig line and yet with every post you call the government he helped build a failing idea?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I really do not know that much about what Libertarians believe - I know some of the people who have switched from Republican to Libertarians are great folks. I did find an article on Ron Paul not being a friend to Israel once - not sure if it was true or not - was wondering if that is part of the Libertarian stance on Israel or just a rumor - whatever - do you know? - Jeri

Libertarians believe in treating Israel the same as every other country. Trade with them, be friends with them, but no entangling alliances. They would be responsible for their own defense and foreign policy, and would not be given American taxpayer money for any reason.

 

[JWBooth]

Libertarianism is a failed world veiw.


Your clinging to historically failed ideas if you like to pretend libertarianism is viable in the real world

VS what? Fascism? Communism? Socialism?

Put down your bong. Just because you are not willing to fight for freedom does not mean the rest of us are willing to let folks like you run roughshod over the planet.

Pay her no mind. Every village has an idiot and on this board, she's it.

 

[RKMBrown]

"Thomas Jefferson believed that each man has "certain inalienable rights". He defines the right of "liberty" by saying, "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others..." A proper government, for Jefferson, is one that not only prohibits individuals in society from infringing on the liberty of other individuals, but also restrains itself from diminishing individual liberty.

Thomas Jefferson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Truthmatters]

VS what? Fascism? Communism? Socialism?

Put down your bong. Just because you are not willing to fight for freedom does not mean the rest of us are willing to let folks like you run roughshod over the planet.

see nothing of subtance to say in defense of their historically failed ideas

Huh? You cite Thomas Jefferson in your sig line and yet with every post you call the government he helped build a failing idea?

you talking to me?


LIBERTARIANS hate the government.

did you forget that?

 

[RKMBrown]

I really do not know that much about what Libertarians believe - I know some of the people who have switched from Republican to Libertarians are great folks. I did find an article on Ron Paul not being a friend to Israel once - not sure if it was true or not - was wondering if that is part of the Libertarian stance on Israel or just a rumor - whatever - do you know? - Jeri

Libertarians believe in treating Israel the same as every other country. Trade with them, be friends with them, but no entangling alliances. They would be responsible for their own defense and foreign policy, and would not be given American taxpayer money for any reason.

I don't think you speak for all libertarians.

I don't think all libertarians are against lending money.

I don't think all libertarians are against defense alliances.

I don't think all libertarians are against helping people.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Since "within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others" cannot be defined by the individual, the "limits drawn around us" must be defined by a We the People legislature elected by our peers.

Since definition of what such limits will be, the laws will reflect the majority definition of those limitations. Thus a constitution is required that protects minorities and their equal rights to the majority.

Jefferson was certainly a classical liberal but certainly not a libertarian.

An aside: note the difference RMKBrown indicates with Kevin_Kennedy above. There is no one pure and unadulterated libertarian philosophy.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I really do not know that much about what Libertarians believe - I know some of the people who have switched from Republican to Libertarians are great folks. I did find an article on Ron Paul not being a friend to Israel once - not sure if it was true or not - was wondering if that is part of the Libertarian stance on Israel or just a rumor - whatever - do you know? - Jeri

Libertarians believe in treating Israel the same as every other country. Trade with them, be friends with them, but no entangling alliances. They would be responsible for their own defense and foreign policy, and would not be given American taxpayer money for any reason.

I don't think you speak for all libertarians.

I don't think all libertarians are against lending money.

I don't think all libertarians are against defense alliances.

I don't think all libertarians are against helping people.

How in the world could I speak for all libertarians?

Libertarians are not against lending money. Libertarians are against stealing money and then lending it out, however, and that is what the U.S. government does with its so-called "aid."

Libertarians are non-interventionists. Yes, they're against defense alliances.

Libertarians are not against helping people.

 

[FA_Q2]

see nothing of subtance to say in defense of their historically failed ideas

Huh? You cite Thomas Jefferson in your sig line and yet with every post you call the government he helped build a failing idea?

you talking to me?


LIBERTARIANS hate the government.

did you forget that?

And yet again, more proof is displayed that those consistently calling libertarian ideals dumb and demanding that they never work and only exist in an imagined world have no idea what libertarians stand for in the first place. When the obvious successful model is pointed out, they rail that it is not libertarian ideals at all.

How can they know that when they have no idea what libertarians stand for in the first place?

 

[midcan5]

Libertarians are the modern Maoists, communists, Utopians who think people are really really nice and government really really bad, all you need is love love, love is all you need. Can anyone name a single project started by libertarians who did it just cause it was required to do it? What comics they are. Anyone remember reading in your history books about a whole bunch of libertarians getting together and building something, cause jeez, they needed to get to the other side, kinda like the chicken did. No? Why not?

Why I Am Not a Libertarian

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/189696-libertarian-flame.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/50564-libertarianism-in-a-nutshell-ii.html
Why is libertarianism wrong?

"The most fundamental problem with libertarianism is very simple: freedom, though a good thing, is simply not the only good thing in life. Simple physical security, which even a prisoner can possess, is not freedom, but one cannot live without it. Prosperity is connected to freedom, in that it makes us free to consume, but it is not the same thing, in that one can be rich but as unfree as a Victorian tycoon's wife. A family is in fact one of the least free things imaginable, as the emotional satisfactions of it derive from relations that we are either born into without choice or, once they are chosen, entail obligations that we cannot walk away from with ease or justice. But security, prosperity, and family are in fact the bulk of happiness for most real people and the principal issues that concern governments." Robert Locke The American Conservative -- Marxism of the Right