Why should blacks become republicans?

[IM2]

Just a few names you may recognize, there are many many more but I shant tax your miniscule intellect with such a multitude.

Herman Cain
Condoleeza Rice
Ben Carson
Alveda King [Niece of MLK jr]
Darrell Scott
Tim Scott
Thomas Sowell
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson

"The first Republican I knew was my father, and he is still the Republican I most admire. He joined our party because the Democrats... would not register him to vote. The Republicans did. My father has never forgotten that day, and neither have I." [Former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice]



And let me cap this off with a video of S. Carolina senator and Black Republican Tim Scott explaining why he is a Republican . Tim Scott Answers: Why Are You a Republican?

Wow, he can name 8 whole black republicans. So while he talks about his father being denied by a democrat:

Voter Suppression in North Carolina

North Carolina Republicans are at it again. Barely one month after a federal appeals court struck down the state’s anti-voter law for suppressing African-American voter turnout “with almost surgical precision,” election officials in dozens of counties are taking up new ways to make it as hard as possible for blacks, and others who tend to support Democrats, to vote.

Opinion | Voter Suppression in North Carolina

Why are they calling the voter ID law "Voter Suppression"?

The NAACP held a protest against photo ID laws. But attendees were required to bring along a photo ID in order to join the rally.

I have to repeat that in hopes the hypocrisy will isnk in - The NAACP held a march to protest voter ID laws. In order to attend, all members were required to bring along a photo ID. I think that deserves both a 'lol' and a WTF !

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NAACP Photo ID

The court’s scathing opinion said that “because of race, the legislature enacted one of the largest restrictions of the franchise in modern North Carolina history.” The law, passed by a Republican-dominated legislature, imposed strict voter-ID requirements, cut back early-voting hours and eliminated same-day registration, out-of-precinct voting and preregistration for those under 18.

The court restored the week of early voting that the law had slashed, but it left it to local election boards to set the number of polling places and voting hours. This permitted those boards, all of which are led by Republicans, to cut voting hours below what they were for the 2012 election.

So explain to me what do all the things underlined have to do with a fucking ID?

Your reply does not adress my post - it's barely relevant apples / oranges are both fruits and so are you but seriously - stay on track little gal

It addresses your post. Every time you rightwards can't refute the facts you get shown, you claim your bullshit was not answered.

 

[IM2]

Wow, he can name 8 whole black republicans. So while he talks about his father being denied by a democrat:

Voter Suppression in North Carolina

North Carolina Republicans are at it again. Barely one month after a federal appeals court struck down the state’s anti-voter law for suppressing African-American voter turnout “with almost surgical precision,” election officials in dozens of counties are taking up new ways to make it as hard as possible for blacks, and others who tend to support Democrats, to vote.

Opinion | Voter Suppression in North Carolina

Why are they calling the voter ID law "Voter Suppression"?

Because that's what the courts are calling them.

So why are the courts calling it voter suppression?

Read the link.

I did and I still don't get it. There were parts I found unnecessary such as nullifying the votes of those who voted at the wrong polling station and barring registration on election day but overall, I don't see the problem.

If they imposed this law only on minorities then I would be right there with them yelling "Discrimination!" But the law applies to everybody so I don't agree with their assessment that it is discriminatory or an attempt at voter suppression. The law was aimed at reducing voter fraud.

The federal appeals COURT made the decision. And based the evidence they saw, the law was not aimed at reducing voter fraud. There is no voter fraud.

 

[IM2]

I would like a logical explanation from one of you white republicans as to why blacks should join your party. Please do not regurgitate the lame story about the 1860 democratic party. After all, every time we blacks talk about what occurred during that time none of you were there. The history of things were not important to you in this regard, so since you weren't around in 1860 and history is not important you in other situations, it's not important now. So please explain why blacks should join the republican party.

I didn't read the previous responses, but the fact is blacks are doing better economically under Trump than any president in U.S. history.

Whites aren't having it as good, but most of it is because of stuff they did to themselves.

Blacks are not doing better under Trump that at any time in US history.

Yes, they are.

Black Activist Explains Why African-Americans Are Doing So Much Better Under Trump Than Obama

No WE aren't. You post up an idiot black conservatives opinion. I'm black . I don't need to go find a black persons opinion to make a claim and I say we aren't because we aren't.

 

[IM2]

If blacks want to become Republicans, they might just as well join the KKK and be done with it

You do realize there are black Republicans, right?

Yeah all 10 of them. Yes there are blacks dumb enough to fall for that party of Lincoln shit.

 

[Humorme]

I would like a logical explanation from one of you white republicans as to why blacks should join your party. Please do not regurgitate the lame story about the 1860 democratic party. After all, every time we blacks talk about what occurred during that time none of you were there. The history of things were not important to you in this regard, so since you weren't around in 1860 and history is not important you in other situations, it's not important now. So please explain why blacks should join the republican party.

I didn't read the previous responses, but the fact is blacks are doing better economically under Trump than any president in U.S. history.

Whites aren't having it as good, but most of it is because of stuff they did to themselves.

Blacks are not doing better under Trump that at any time in US history.

Yes, they are.

Black Activist Explains Why African-Americans Are Doing So Much Better Under Trump Than Obama

No WE aren't. You post up an idiot black conservatives opinion. I'm black . I don't need to go find a black persons opinion to make a claim and I say we aren't because we aren't.

So just because you say so, it's true? Are you a black prophet?

I don;t suppose what the Chicago Tribune had to say either:

Trump's real record on race may surprise you

 

[katsteve2012]

If blacks want to become Republicans, they might just as well join the KKK and be done with it

Wow, paternalistic contempt and telling black people how to think. Way to go.

There is so little difference between the KKK agenda and Republican agenda

You're familiar with the KKK agenda? Been at a few meetings lately?

Since you're so familiar with both, post a few comparisons for our amusement.

In the meantime we'll continue to note your contempt for black people.

What is different from today’s GOP platform on immigration, education, abortion, gun control, America first, the media, homosexuality

Platform of the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
http://www.tep-online.info/laku/usa/mino/kkk/kkk.htm

Without delving too deep into the similarities and differences, the most glaring difference is the stance on immigration. The KKK wants to ban immigration from non-white countries whereas the Republican stance is simply to stem the tide of illegal immigration.

January 11th 2018:
"President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and some nations in Africa, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than from places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversation."

The above sounds VERY similar to the Klans stance on immigration, in fact, it is even more emphatic than how the Klan phrased it.

 

[rightwinger]

KKK or Republican platform?

• CRIME: America is the most violent nation on the face of the earth. Major cities like New York, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta and Philadelphia have been all but over run by hordes of savage criminals. The liberal government papers these subhuman and attempts to disarm law-abiding citizens. The American Knights demand that our cities be liberated from these barbarians. We shall remove the killers and rapists from our streets and execute those that deserve it.
• ABORTION: Thousands of innocent children are slaughtered each day at Baby killing centers all over the country. The government has made abortion a convenient form of birth control. The American Knights will outlaw this barbaric, satanic practice and punish the sadistic doctors who are guilty of these crimes against humanity.
• GUN CONTROL: The so-called gun control bills enacted by the government are nothing but anti-self defense laws designed to disarm law abiding White citizens. The Klan will completely restore the right of all law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms.
• THE MEDIA: All three of our television networks are controlled by jews. Most of our daily newspapers, magazines and book publishing companies are owned by jew tycoons. The Klan will smash this jewish monopoly of our mass media. We will restore the right of free speech and open debate of political issues.
• EDUCATION: America's public schools, colleges and universities have been turned into political indoctrination centers run by deprived liberals, communist and jews in our public. WHITE teachers and students are raped and robbed by ******* and other savages on a daily basis. The Klan will remove the criminals from the classrooms and put them behind bars where they belong. Forced bussing will be outlawed. Prayer will be returned to our schools. All teachers who continue to promote anti-American doctrine will be removed and replaced by decent American patriots.
• HOMOSEXUALITY: The Klan will take away all the special rights and privileges granted to homosexuals by the liberal dictatorship over the last few years. Homosexuals will no longer be permitted to adopt children or marry each other. Gay bars, gay nightclubs, and gay bathhouses will be shut down.
• IMMIGRATION: Millions of Third World bandits enter our country illegally every year. The Republicans and Democrats do nothing to halt this massive invasion. America is being transformed into a new Mexico. The American Knights call for an end to this madness. We shall halt all immigration from non-White nations and use the U.S. Army to restore integrity to our borders.

No resemblance to the Republican agenda. You're believing and propagating lies.

You obviously can’t read

Point out major differences between the Trump platform and the KKK platform

 

[katsteve2012]

KKK or Republican platform?

• CRIME: America is the most violent nation on the face of the earth. Major cities like New York, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta and Philadelphia have been all but over run by hordes of savage criminals. The liberal government papers these subhuman and attempts to disarm law-abiding citizens. The American Knights demand that our cities be liberated from these barbarians. We shall remove the killers and rapists from our streets and execute those that deserve it.
• ABORTION: Thousands of innocent children are slaughtered each day at Baby killing centers all over the country. The government has made abortion a convenient form of birth control. The American Knights will outlaw this barbaric, satanic practice and punish the sadistic doctors who are guilty of these crimes against humanity.
• GUN CONTROL: The so-called gun control bills enacted by the government are nothing but anti-self defense laws designed to disarm law abiding White citizens. The Klan will completely restore the right of all law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms.
• THE MEDIA: All three of our television networks are controlled by jews. Most of our daily newspapers, magazines and book publishing companies are owned by jew tycoons. The Klan will smash this jewish monopoly of our mass media. We will restore the right of free speech and open debate of political issues.
• EDUCATION: America's public schools, colleges and universities have been turned into political indoctrination centers run by deprived liberals, communist and jews in our public. WHITE teachers and students are raped and robbed by ******* and other savages on a daily basis. The Klan will remove the criminals from the classrooms and put them behind bars where they belong. Forced bussing will be outlawed. Prayer will be returned to our schools. All teachers who continue to promote anti-American doctrine will be removed and replaced by decent American patriots.
• HOMOSEXUALITY: The Klan will take away all the special rights and privileges granted to homosexuals by the liberal dictatorship over the last few years. Homosexuals will no longer be permitted to adopt children or marry each other. Gay bars, gay nightclubs, and gay bathhouses will be shut down.
• IMMIGRATION: Millions of Third World bandits enter our country illegally every year. The Republicans and Democrats do nothing to halt this massive invasion. America is being transformed into a new Mexico. The American Knights call for an end to this madness. We shall halt all immigration from non-White nations and use the U.S. Army to restore integrity to our borders.

No resemblance to the Republican agenda. You're believing and propagating lies.

You obviously can’t read

Point out major differences between the Trump platform and the KKK platform

Hmm? Trump favors blue suits and the Klan wears sheets?

 

[rightwinger]

There is so little difference between the KKK agenda and Republican agenda

You're familiar with the KKK agenda? Been at a few meetings lately?

Since you're so familiar with both, post a few comparisons for our amusement.

In the meantime we'll continue to note your contempt for black people.

What is different from today’s GOP platform on immigration, education, abortion, gun control, America first, the media, homosexuality

Platform of the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
http://www.tep-online.info/laku/usa/mino/kkk/kkk.htm

Without delving too deep into the similarities and differences, the most glaring difference is the stance on immigration. The KKK wants to ban immigration from non-white countries whereas the Republican stance is simply to stem the tide of illegal immigration.

• IMMIGRATION: Millions of Third World bandits enter our country illegally every year. The Republicans and Democrats do nothing to halt this massive invasion. America is being transformed into a new Mexico. The American Knights call for an end to this madness. We shall halt all immigration from non-White nations and use the U.S. Army to restore integrity to our borders.

Read that and compare to TODAYS Republican rhetoric and policy

Remember “shithole countries”?
US Army on the borders?
Trump asking why we don’t get more immigrants from Norway?

You didn't say "rhetoric" in your original post on the topic. I believe the word you used was "platform". Whatever extreme ideas some individual Republicans may have on the matter, it is not Republican policy or the Republican platform to bar immigration from non-white countries.

As for the troops on the border, I believe that is in response to the migrant caravan supposedly headed to our border.

As for the "shithole" countries remark, that was a stupid thing to say and is indefensible. I will say though that I've worked with former military a lot over the years and a couple of them were deployed to Haiti at one time or another and the general consensus among soldiers deployed there is that it is a shithole country. I don't say that to excuse the remark but when he said it, people conflated it to be racist. If I was to tell you right now that Haiti is a shithole country, it would be because of the poverty and political corruption, not because they're black.

Yes, Republicans do clean up their language better than the KKK. But their premise is the same, their enemies are the same, their policies aren’t that different
Look at the Klan position on the media. Same as Republican rhetoric except they blame the Jews. Republicans know better but their base does not disagree
Look what the klan says about “Special Priveleges” for homosexuals. Same words Republicans say today

 

[IM2]

I would like a logical explanation from one of you white republicans as to why blacks should join your party. Please do not regurgitate the lame story about the 1860 democratic party. After all, every time we blacks talk about what occurred during that time none of you were there. The history of things were not important to you in this regard, so since you weren't around in 1860 and history is not important you in other situations, it's not important now. So please explain why blacks should join the republican party.

I didn't read the previous responses, but the fact is blacks are doing better economically under Trump than any president in U.S. history.

Whites aren't having it as good, but most of it is because of stuff they did to themselves.

Blacks are not doing better under Trump that at any time in US history.

Yes, they are.

Black Activist Explains Why African-Americans Are Doing So Much Better Under Trump Than Obama

No WE aren't. You post up an idiot black conservatives opinion. I'm black . I don't need to go find a black persons opinion to make a claim and I say we aren't because we aren't.

So just because you say so, it's true? Are you a black prophet?

I don;t suppose what the Chicago Tribune had to say either:

Trump's real record on race may surprise you

Yes it is because I say so. And it is because most of us blacks say so. And it is because Trumps actions say so.

Trump is riding n Obamas policies. Also had Obama been blatantly pro black, he would not have survived one term.

Now shut the fuck up trying to tell us what we see isn't so. It is so.

 

[Humorme]

KKK or Republican platform?

• CRIME: America is the most violent nation on the face of the earth. Major cities like New York, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta and Philadelphia have been all but over run by hordes of savage criminals. The liberal government papers these subhuman and attempts to disarm law-abiding citizens. The American Knights demand that our cities be liberated from these barbarians. We shall remove the killers and rapists from our streets and execute those that deserve it.
• ABORTION: Thousands of innocent children are slaughtered each day at Baby killing centers all over the country. The government has made abortion a convenient form of birth control. The American Knights will outlaw this barbaric, satanic practice and punish the sadistic doctors who are guilty of these crimes against humanity.
• GUN CONTROL: The so-called gun control bills enacted by the government are nothing but anti-self defense laws designed to disarm law abiding White citizens. The Klan will completely restore the right of all law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms.
• THE MEDIA: All three of our television networks are controlled by jews. Most of our daily newspapers, magazines and book publishing companies are owned by jew tycoons. The Klan will smash this jewish monopoly of our mass media. We will restore the right of free speech and open debate of political issues.
• EDUCATION: America's public schools, colleges and universities have been turned into political indoctrination centers run by deprived liberals, communist and jews in our public. WHITE teachers and students are raped and robbed by ******* and other savages on a daily basis. The Klan will remove the criminals from the classrooms and put them behind bars where they belong. Forced bussing will be outlawed. Prayer will be returned to our schools. All teachers who continue to promote anti-American doctrine will be removed and replaced by decent American patriots.
• HOMOSEXUALITY: The Klan will take away all the special rights and privileges granted to homosexuals by the liberal dictatorship over the last few years. Homosexuals will no longer be permitted to adopt children or marry each other. Gay bars, gay nightclubs, and gay bathhouses will be shut down.
• IMMIGRATION: Millions of Third World bandits enter our country illegally every year. The Republicans and Democrats do nothing to halt this massive invasion. America is being transformed into a new Mexico. The American Knights call for an end to this madness. We shall halt all immigration from non-White nations and use the U.S. Army to restore integrity to our borders.

No resemblance to the Republican agenda. You're believing and propagating lies.

You obviously can’t read

Point out major differences between the Trump platform and the KKK platform

There aren't many differences. Kudos to Trump. Now the KKK thinks that black people and Jews are the good guys and the only bad guys are those little brown people from south of the border and Muslims.

Give Trump some credit, for crying out loud.

We used to have this guy here in Georgia (before I was old enough to vote, BTW) and he used to get on tv as a Democrat running for governor and promise to "ship all the N (word )back to Africa" and he'd get like 30,000 votes... and that was his entire platform! Bill Clinton sounded like today's Donald Trump:



If you can deliver the most votes, you will be looked after. Well, you'll be catered to as long as your vote ends up in a majority column.

There is one thing you should really celebrate:

The strategy of the right is to deport all the little brown people from south of the border (those working minimum wage jobs and NOT seeking citizenship.) They will then bring other people with skills, education, and money to take the best jobs and gain the privilege of voting. It makes the right the dumbest sons of bitches that ever graced the face of this earth. The richest foreigners will be Muslims, maybe some more Jews, etc. and they will break the right and deliver the country into the hands of the left. So, after being played by both the Ds and the Rs, blacks have never had it so good. They should embrace Trump as they KNOW they've never had it so good and it's only going to get better.

Check back with me when the left takes the U.S. Senate in the midterms.

 

[Humorme]

You're familiar with the KKK agenda? Been at a few meetings lately?

Since you're so familiar with both, post a few comparisons for our amusement.

In the meantime we'll continue to note your contempt for black people.

What is different from today’s GOP platform on immigration, education, abortion, gun control, America first, the media, homosexuality

Platform of the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
http://www.tep-online.info/laku/usa/mino/kkk/kkk.htm

Without delving too deep into the similarities and differences, the most glaring difference is the stance on immigration. The KKK wants to ban immigration from non-white countries whereas the Republican stance is simply to stem the tide of illegal immigration.

• IMMIGRATION: Millions of Third World bandits enter our country illegally every year. The Republicans and Democrats do nothing to halt this massive invasion. America is being transformed into a new Mexico. The American Knights call for an end to this madness. We shall halt all immigration from non-White nations and use the U.S. Army to restore integrity to our borders.

Read that and compare to TODAYS Republican rhetoric and policy

Remember “shithole countries”?
US Army on the borders?
Trump asking why we don’t get more immigrants from Norway?

You didn't say "rhetoric" in your original post on the topic. I believe the word you used was "platform". Whatever extreme ideas some individual Republicans may have on the matter, it is not Republican policy or the Republican platform to bar immigration from non-white countries.

As for the troops on the border, I believe that is in response to the migrant caravan supposedly headed to our border.

As for the "shithole" countries remark, that was a stupid thing to say and is indefensible. I will say though that I've worked with former military a lot over the years and a couple of them were deployed to Haiti at one time or another and the general consensus among soldiers deployed there is that it is a shithole country. I don't say that to excuse the remark but when he said it, people conflated it to be racist. If I was to tell you right now that Haiti is a shithole country, it would be because of the poverty and political corruption, not because they're black.

Yes, Republicans do clean up their language better than the KKK. But their premise is the same, their enemies are the same, their policies aren’t that different
Look at the Klan position on the media. Same as Republican rhetoric except they blame the Jews. Republicans know better but their base does not disagree
Look what the klan says about “Special Priveleges” for homosexuals. Same words Republicans say today

Under Trump the true racist has learned how to say "illegal alien" (ignoring the concept of a presumption of innocence) instead of mud people, spics, sand N word, beaner, etc.

Trump got David Duke to back off the Jews and be more tolerant of black people.

Donald Trump is a demi-god and most of you don't realize it. He harps on undocumented foreigners, gets the Klan to vote for him, and all the while has been hiring those same undocumented workers and paying them slave wages to build firetraps like the one that just caught fire.

You people need some perspective.

 

[rightwinger]

KKK or Republican platform?

• CRIME: America is the most violent nation on the face of the earth. Major cities like New York, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta and Philadelphia have been all but over run by hordes of savage criminals. The liberal government papers these subhuman and attempts to disarm law-abiding citizens. The American Knights demand that our cities be liberated from these barbarians. We shall remove the killers and rapists from our streets and execute those that deserve it.
• ABORTION: Thousands of innocent children are slaughtered each day at Baby killing centers all over the country. The government has made abortion a convenient form of birth control. The American Knights will outlaw this barbaric, satanic practice and punish the sadistic doctors who are guilty of these crimes against humanity.
• GUN CONTROL: The so-called gun control bills enacted by the government are nothing but anti-self defense laws designed to disarm law abiding White citizens. The Klan will completely restore the right of all law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms.
• THE MEDIA: All three of our television networks are controlled by jews. Most of our daily newspapers, magazines and book publishing companies are owned by jew tycoons. The Klan will smash this jewish monopoly of our mass media. We will restore the right of free speech and open debate of political issues.
• EDUCATION: America's public schools, colleges and universities have been turned into political indoctrination centers run by deprived liberals, communist and jews in our public. WHITE teachers and students are raped and robbed by ******* and other savages on a daily basis. The Klan will remove the criminals from the classrooms and put them behind bars where they belong. Forced bussing will be outlawed. Prayer will be returned to our schools. All teachers who continue to promote anti-American doctrine will be removed and replaced by decent American patriots.
• HOMOSEXUALITY: The Klan will take away all the special rights and privileges granted to homosexuals by the liberal dictatorship over the last few years. Homosexuals will no longer be permitted to adopt children or marry each other. Gay bars, gay nightclubs, and gay bathhouses will be shut down.
• IMMIGRATION: Millions of Third World bandits enter our country illegally every year. The Republicans and Democrats do nothing to halt this massive invasion. America is being transformed into a new Mexico. The American Knights call for an end to this madness. We shall halt all immigration from non-White nations and use the U.S. Army to restore integrity to our borders.

No resemblance to the Republican agenda. You're believing and propagating lies.

You obviously can’t read

Point out major differences between the Trump platform and the KKK platform

There aren't many differences. Kudos to Trump. Now the KKK thinks that black people and Jews are the good guys and the only bad guys are those little brown people from south of the border and Muslims.

Give Trump some credit, for crying out loud.

We used to have this guy here in Georgia (before I was old enough to vote, BTW) and he used to get on tv as a Democrat running for governor and promise to "ship all the N (word )back to Africa" and he'd get like 30,000 votes... and that was his entire platform! Bill Clinton sounded like today's Donald Trump:



If you can deliver the most votes, you will be looked after. Well, you'll be catered to as long as your vote ends up in a majority column.

There is one thing you should really celebrate:

The strategy of the right is to deport all the little brown people from south of the border (those working minimum wage jobs and NOT seeking citizenship.) They will then bring other people with skills, education, and money to take the best jobs and gain the privilege of voting. It makes the right the dumbest sons of bitches that ever graced the face of this earth. The richest foreigners will be Muslims, maybe some more Jews, etc. and they will break the right and deliver the country into the hands of the left. So, after being played by both the Ds and the Rs, blacks have never had it so good. They should embrace Trump as they KNOW they've never had it so good and it's only going to get better.

Check back with me when the left takes the U.S. Senate in the midterms.

Trump spouts the same rhetoric only he cleans it up slightly.....very slightly

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Why are they calling the voter ID law "Voter Suppression"?

Because that's what the courts are calling them.

So why are the courts calling it voter suppression?

Read the link.

I did and I still don't get it. There were parts I found unnecessary such as nullifying the votes of those who voted at the wrong polling station and barring registration on election day but overall, I don't see the problem.

If they imposed this law only on minorities then I would be right there with them yelling "Discrimination!" But the law applies to everybody so I don't agree with their assessment that it is discriminatory or an attempt at voter suppression. The law was aimed at reducing voter fraud.

The federal appeals COURT made the decision.

I understand the Federal Appeals COURT made the decision, I just don't agree with it.

And based the evidence they saw, the law was not aimed at reducing voter fraud. There is no voter fraud.

Of course there's voter fraud. There are documented cases of voter fraud across the country, including 15 cases in North Carolina between 1986 and 2017.

If the measures in the law were implemented then it would have reduced the chances of voter fraud. They just chose to interpret it as voter suppression. Problem is, there's nothing in the law that would suppress minority voting.

Whether or not voter fraud is as pervasive as some claim, one fraudulent vote is one too many. We've been told since grade school that the right to vote is sacrosanct, that each vote is important and each American's patriotic duty. "One man, one vote" has been the rallying cry for those fighting for voting rights here and in South Africa and is a principle upon which the government redistricts areas to make voter representation more fair, i.e., to make each vote count.

If each vote truly does count as we've been told then, as I said, one fraudulent vote is one too many. If we were to compromise that principle for the convenience of a few, we might as well quit lecturing on the importance of exercising that right.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

If blacks want to become Republicans, they might just as well join the KKK and be done with it

You do realize there are black Republicans, right?

Yeah all 10 of them. Yes there are blacks dumb enough to fall for that party of Lincoln shit.

So you're saying that these particular blacks are not intelligent enough to think for themselves?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Wow, paternalistic contempt and telling black people how to think. Way to go.

There is so little difference between the KKK agenda and Republican agenda

You're familiar with the KKK agenda? Been at a few meetings lately?

Since you're so familiar with both, post a few comparisons for our amusement.

In the meantime we'll continue to note your contempt for black people.

What is different from today’s GOP platform on immigration, education, abortion, gun control, America first, the media, homosexuality

Platform of the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
http://www.tep-online.info/laku/usa/mino/kkk/kkk.htm

Without delving too deep into the similarities and differences, the most glaring difference is the stance on immigration. The KKK wants to ban immigration from non-white countries whereas the Republican stance is simply to stem the tide of illegal immigration.

January 11th 2018:
"President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and some nations in Africa, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than from places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversation."

The above sounds VERY similar to the Klans stance on immigration, in fact, it is even more emphatic than how the Klan phrased it.

What Trump said is irrelevant. These ideas do not conform to the Republican platform on immigration.

 

[katsteve2012]

There is so little difference between the KKK agenda and Republican agenda

You're familiar with the KKK agenda? Been at a few meetings lately?

Since you're so familiar with both, post a few comparisons for our amusement.

In the meantime we'll continue to note your contempt for black people.

What is different from today’s GOP platform on immigration, education, abortion, gun control, America first, the media, homosexuality

Platform of the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
http://www.tep-online.info/laku/usa/mino/kkk/kkk.htm

Without delving too deep into the similarities and differences, the most glaring difference is the stance on immigration. The KKK wants to ban immigration from non-white countries whereas the Republican stance is simply to stem the tide of illegal immigration.

January 11th 2018:
"President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and some nations in Africa, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than from places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversation."

The above sounds VERY similar to the Klans stance on immigration, in fact, it is even more emphatic than how the Klan phrased it.

What Trump said is irrelevant. These ideas do not conform to the Republican platform on immigration.

Trump is A REPUBLICAN and he is POTUS.His ideas absolutely do "conform" to those of his party, and are totally relevant

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You're familiar with the KKK agenda? Been at a few meetings lately?

Since you're so familiar with both, post a few comparisons for our amusement.

In the meantime we'll continue to note your contempt for black people.

What is different from today’s GOP platform on immigration, education, abortion, gun control, America first, the media, homosexuality

Platform of the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
http://www.tep-online.info/laku/usa/mino/kkk/kkk.htm

Without delving too deep into the similarities and differences, the most glaring difference is the stance on immigration. The KKK wants to ban immigration from non-white countries whereas the Republican stance is simply to stem the tide of illegal immigration.

• IMMIGRATION: Millions of Third World bandits enter our country illegally every year. The Republicans and Democrats do nothing to halt this massive invasion. America is being transformed into a new Mexico. The American Knights call for an end to this madness. We shall halt all immigration from non-White nations and use the U.S. Army to restore integrity to our borders.

Read that and compare to TODAYS Republican rhetoric and policy

Remember “shithole countries”?
US Army on the borders?
Trump asking why we don’t get more immigrants from Norway?

You didn't say "rhetoric" in your original post on the topic. I believe the word you used was "platform". Whatever extreme ideas some individual Republicans may have on the matter, it is not Republican policy or the Republican platform to bar immigration from non-white countries.

As for the troops on the border, I believe that is in response to the migrant caravan supposedly headed to our border.

As for the "shithole" countries remark, that was a stupid thing to say and is indefensible. I will say though that I've worked with former military a lot over the years and a couple of them were deployed to Haiti at one time or another and the general consensus among soldiers deployed there is that it is a shithole country. I don't say that to excuse the remark but when he said it, people conflated it to be racist. If I was to tell you right now that Haiti is a shithole country, it would be because of the poverty and political corruption, not because they're black.

Yes, Republicans do clean up their language better than the KKK. But their premise is the same, their enemies are the same, their policies aren’t that different
Look at the Klan position on the media. Same as Republican rhetoric except they blame the Jews. Republicans know better but their base does not disagree
Look what the klan says about “Special Priveleges” for homosexuals. Same words Republicans say today

I'm afraid I have to somewhat agree on things like the media. Unlike the KKK and what some Republicans may say on the matter, I will only go as far as to say that I think - as a lot of conservatives do - that there is a liberal bias in the media. And Republicans not disagreeing does not mean they agree. People tend to forget that the only ones they hear from are the most vocal and loudest ones. This forum is a perfect example. Most of the people I know are conservatives but none of them are as vocal or share the same ideas you see spouted here. And most of them have neither the time nor the inclination to make the effort to be heard on a forum or otherwise. The loud ones only represent a fraction of the overall group.

As for rights for homosexuals, this is where the Republican party and I diverge. I'm entirely in favor of gay rights, including marriage and adoption. Most people approach social and political issues from a standpoint of should/should not. My standpoint on gay rights is why/why not. While some may have religious reservations about it, I don't. So why not let them marry? There's no practical reason not to. And if allowing gays to adopt gets one kid out of the foster system and into a loving home, why not?

 

[Humorme]

Because that's what the courts are calling them.

So why are the courts calling it voter suppression?

Read the link.

I did and I still don't get it. There were parts I found unnecessary such as nullifying the votes of those who voted at the wrong polling station and barring registration on election day but overall, I don't see the problem.

If they imposed this law only on minorities then I would be right there with them yelling "Discrimination!" But the law applies to everybody so I don't agree with their assessment that it is discriminatory or an attempt at voter suppression. The law was aimed at reducing voter fraud.

The federal appeals COURT made the decision.

I understand the Federal Appeals COURT made the decision, I just don't agree with it.

And based the evidence they saw, the law was not aimed at reducing voter fraud. There is no voter fraud.

Of course there's voter fraud. There are documented cases of voter fraud across the country, including 15 cases in North Carolina between 1986 and 2017.

If the measures in the law were implemented then it would have reduced the chances of voter fraud. They just chose to interpret it as voter suppression. Problem is, there's nothing in the law that would suppress minority voting.

Whether or not voter fraud is as pervasive as some claim, one fraudulent vote is one too many. We've been told since grade school that the right to vote is sacrosanct, that each vote is important and each American's patriotic duty. "One man, one vote" has been the rallying cry for those fighting for voting rights here and in South Africa and is a principle upon which the government redistricts areas to make voter representation more fair, i.e., to make each vote count.

If each vote truly does count as we've been told then, as I said, one fraudulent vote is one too many. If we were to compromise that principle for the convenience of a few, we might as well quit lecturing on the importance of exercising that right.

Voting is more of a privilege than a Right. What we claim to hold so sacred, we don't protect. Here's a hint from book author, Ayn Rand:

"We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be
much easier to deal with" ('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)

Criminals don't get to vote.

 

[Humorme]

What is different from today’s GOP platform on immigration, education, abortion, gun control, America first, the media, homosexuality

Platform of the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
http://www.tep-online.info/laku/usa/mino/kkk/kkk.htm

Without delving too deep into the similarities and differences, the most glaring difference is the stance on immigration. The KKK wants to ban immigration from non-white countries whereas the Republican stance is simply to stem the tide of illegal immigration.

• IMMIGRATION: Millions of Third World bandits enter our country illegally every year. The Republicans and Democrats do nothing to halt this massive invasion. America is being transformed into a new Mexico. The American Knights call for an end to this madness. We shall halt all immigration from non-White nations and use the U.S. Army to restore integrity to our borders.

Read that and compare to TODAYS Republican rhetoric and policy

Remember “shithole countries”?
US Army on the borders?
Trump asking why we don’t get more immigrants from Norway?

You didn't say "rhetoric" in your original post on the topic. I believe the word you used was "platform". Whatever extreme ideas some individual Republicans may have on the matter, it is not Republican policy or the Republican platform to bar immigration from non-white countries.

As for the troops on the border, I believe that is in response to the migrant caravan supposedly headed to our border.

As for the "shithole" countries remark, that was a stupid thing to say and is indefensible. I will say though that I've worked with former military a lot over the years and a couple of them were deployed to Haiti at one time or another and the general consensus among soldiers deployed there is that it is a shithole country. I don't say that to excuse the remark but when he said it, people conflated it to be racist. If I was to tell you right now that Haiti is a shithole country, it would be because of the poverty and political corruption, not because they're black.

Yes, Republicans do clean up their language better than the KKK. But their premise is the same, their enemies are the same, their policies aren’t that different
Look at the Klan position on the media. Same as Republican rhetoric except they blame the Jews. Republicans know better but their base does not disagree
Look what the klan says about “Special Priveleges” for homosexuals. Same words Republicans say today

I'm afraid I have to somewhat agree on things like the media. Unlike the KKK and what some Republicans may say on the matter, I will only go as far as to say that I think - as a lot of conservatives do - that there is a liberal bias in the media. And Republicans not disagreeing does not mean they agree. People tend to forget that the only ones they hear from are the most vocal and loudest ones. This forum is a perfect example. Most of the people I know are conservatives but none of them are as vocal or share the same ideas you see spouted here. And most of them have neither the time nor the inclination to make the effort to be heard on a forum or otherwise. The loud ones only represent a fraction of the overall group.

As for rights for homosexuals, this is where the Republican party and I diverge. I'm entirely in favor of gay rights, including marriage and adoption. Most people approach social and political issues from a standpoint of should/should not. My standpoint on gay rights is why/why not. While some may have religious reservations about it, I don't. So why not let them marry? There's no practical reason not to. And if allowing gays to adopt gets one kid out of the foster system and into a loving home, why not?

Practical reason to outlaw homosexual marriage?

Let's go back to race. As an employer, it would not be my job to guarantee a job to any specific individual. Yet the government mandates that I "give" jobs to the individuals they approve of. If hire too many whites, it's a problem. If you give a job to someone who doesn't have a Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, "Social Security Number," it's a problem. WTH???

Republicans have long held that you should never be taxed on what you make, yet they join the silly chorus that only "legal" Americans should have Rights in this country. Really? Why? If we stand by Republican principles, you run a nation by taxing consumption, not by what the individual produces. But, both sides don't like those who forego paying the income tax.

What does paying an income tax do? It finances that half of America that is dependent upon a government check for a living. So, gays, being unable to repopulate our nation are impractical as citizens with the Rights and privileges of those who must keep reproducing to keep the country going.

The alternative is give this country to the Muslims and let them stone the gays to death. Now, maybe in a Republic, if we follow the law, the gays might not get to marry, adopt kids, etc. but they can practice their behavior at their own expense.