Why the 2020 elections are even more important than these last ones...

[nat4900]

Here's an interesting bit of historical factoid that a recent article has reminded us.....An instructive read

First let me state that it is highly doubtful that Trump would last until 2020, never mind running again for president.

With that in mind, first consider that very,very seldom does a party manage to hold the WH for THREE consecutive terms and the (in my personal opinion) the poor choice of Hillary Clinton as the Dem candidate, certainly contributed to a continuation of that pattern.

BUT, the good news that should have republicans a bit more than a little worried:

If Democrats had to win only one of the two elections, 2020 is by far the more important. That’s because the elections in every zero-year coincide with the Census: those who win the governorships and legislatures in the zero year have control over the district lines redrawn after the Census.

The biggest reason Democrats continue to lose the House despite winning more overall votes is that the Republican surge in 2010 allowed them to gerrymander Congressional and legislative district lines all around the country. A Democratic wave in 2020 would allow Democrats to redraw those lines after an even more favorable census, potentially giving them a decade of dominance similar to that held by Republicans today.

Here's one silver lining to Trump’s win

The above, coupled with the changing demographics in states like Texas, Arizona and Colorado (and even Oklahoma) where Latinos are increasingly stepping up to register to vote, should be a very sobering reality for the GOP.

Of course, we ALSO have to fully consider the failure that is the Trump administration and the current do-nothing republican dominated Congress.

 

[JGalt]

Not very likely. Presidential campaigns rely on funding and the Democrats are broke-ass poor.

Do you seriously think their rich, white contributors are going to throw more of their money down a gopher hole?

 

[BluesLegend]

Hillary 2020

 

[nat4900]

It’s theoretically possible that Trump could be impeached or resign before filling out his entire term. But impeachment would cleft the GOP base irreparably, while resignation in shame would demoralize both the base and the party infrastructure. It seems unlikely that a President Pence would survive a Democratic onslaught in the pivotal 2020 election cycle.

Four years seems like a long time to survive a Trump presidency, but in hindsight it may turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

 

[nat4900]

Not very likely. Presidential campaigns rely on funding and the Democrats are broke-ass poor.

The above from the same ilk that criticizes people like Soros???

 

[TheDude]

Last ones? WTF does last ones mean?

Answer: You pulled another narrative out of your butt, just like your last ones.

 

[nat4900]

Last ones? WTF does last ones mean?

Lets see....lat ones??/ The ones in 2012, 2014, 2016 and the upcoming 2018.....Happy???

 

[nat4900]

Hillary 2020

What will you ever do now that Hillary is history???
How will you honesty be able to defend the orange clown?

Tough days ahead for your ilk......

 

[BluesLegend]

Hillary 2020

What will you ever do now that Hillary is history???
How will you honesty be able to defend the orange clown?

Tough days ahead for your ilk......

Donate money to the Hillary 2020 fund of course

 

[nat4900]

Donate money to the Hillary 2020 fund of course

.....
Lots of good and smarter democrats (and even some republicans) in the wings......

Texas may turn "blue" in 2020........

 

[JoeB131]

Not very likely. Presidential campaigns rely on funding and the Democrats are broke-ass poor.

Do you seriously think their rich, white contributors are going to throw more of their money down a gopher hole?

I think when the recession hits, those rich white contributors are going to try to buy themselves as much good will as they possibly can.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Hillary 2020

What will you ever do now that Hillary is history???
How will you honesty be able to defend the orange clown?

Tough days ahead for your ilk......

I would not count her out.

Right now the Democratic Party need to focus on trying to win the House in 2018 before even worrying about 2020...

Also name the possible 2020 candidates that will run against Trump and if you have a fracture party where Sanders and Obama voters stay home again do you believe you can win the Electoral College vote in swing states?

 

[nat4900]

Also name the possible 2020 candidates that will run against Trump and if you have a fracture party where Sanders and Obama voters stay home again do you believe you can win the Electoral College vote in swing states?

Wow, lots of negative speculation there.....but we have Trump to "thank" for in UN-FRACTURING voters' interests to show up at the polls..

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Also name the possible 2020 candidates that will run against Trump and if you have a fracture party where Sanders and Obama voters stay home again do you believe you can win the Electoral College vote in swing states?

Wow, lots of negative speculation there.....but we have Trump to "thank" for in UN-FRACTURING voters' interests to show up at the polls..

Trump had nothing to do with Sanders and Obama voters.

Your political party need to run a clean primary in 2020 or third party candidates like Stein will drain voters from your political party again.

Your party need to run on something but Trump and offer something to vote for.

But again 2018 come first and if your political party does not gain seats in the House then 2020 matter not because the mood of the country is bitter at the Democrats except in states like California and New York...

So worry about winning in 2018 before 2020 because your political party is becoming like the Libertarian and Green Party...

 

[theHawk]

Here's an interesting bit of historical factoid that a recent article has reminded us.....An instructive read

First let me state that it is highly doubtful that Trump would last until 2020, never mind running again for president.

With that in mind, first consider that very,very seldom does a party manage to hold the WH for THREE consecutive terms and the (in my personal opinion) the poor choice of Hillary Clinton as the Dem candidate, certainly contributed to a continuation of that pattern.

BUT, the good news that should have republicans a bit more than a little worried:

If Democrats had to win only one of the two elections, 2020 is by far the more important. That’s because the elections in every zero-year coincide with the Census: those who win the governorships and legislatures in the zero year have control over the district lines redrawn after the Census.

The biggest reason Democrats continue to lose the House despite winning more overall votes is that the Republican surge in 2010 allowed them to gerrymander Congressional and legislative district lines all around the country. A Democratic wave in 2020 would allow Democrats to redraw those lines after an even more favorable census, potentially giving them a decade of dominance similar to that held by Republicans today.

Here's one silver lining to Trump’s win

The above, coupled with the changing demographics in states like Texas, Arizona and Colorado (and even Oklahoma) where Latinos are increasingly stepping up to register to vote, should be a very sobering reality for the GOP.

Of course, we ALSO have to fully consider the failure that is the Trump administration and the current do-nothing republican dominated Congress.

What's the matter nut, President Trump not going to be impeached by then?

 

[SmokeALib]

Here's an interesting bit of historical factoid that a recent article has reminded us.....An instructive read

First let me state that it is highly doubtful that Trump would last until 2020, never mind running again for president.

With that in mind, first consider that very,very seldom does a party manage to hold the WH for THREE consecutive terms and the (in my personal opinion) the poor choice of Hillary Clinton as the Dem candidate, certainly contributed to a continuation of that pattern.

BUT, the good news that should have republicans a bit more than a little worried:

If Democrats had to win only one of the two elections, 2020 is by far the more important. That’s because the elections in every zero-year coincide with the Census: those who win the governorships and legislatures in the zero year have control over the district lines redrawn after the Census.

The biggest reason Democrats continue to lose the House despite winning more overall votes is that the Republican surge in 2010 allowed them to gerrymander Congressional and legislative district lines all around the country. A Democratic wave in 2020 would allow Democrats to redraw those lines after an even more favorable census, potentially giving them a decade of dominance similar to that held by Republicans today.

Here's one silver lining to Trump’s win

The above, coupled with the changing demographics in states like Texas, Arizona and Colorado (and even Oklahoma) where Latinos are increasingly stepping up to register to vote, should be a very sobering reality for the GOP.

Of course, we ALSO have to fully consider the failure that is the Trump administration and the current do-nothing republican dominated Congress.

Quit starting worthless threads. Thanks.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Here's an interesting bit of historical factoid that a recent article has reminded us.....An instructive read

First let me state that it is highly doubtful that Trump would last until 2020, never mind running again for president.

With that in mind, first consider that very,very seldom does a party manage to hold the WH for THREE consecutive terms and the (in my personal opinion) the poor choice of Hillary Clinton as the Dem candidate, certainly contributed to a continuation of that pattern.

BUT, the good news that should have republicans a bit more than a little worried:

If Democrats had to win only one of the two elections, 2020 is by far the more important. That’s because the elections in every zero-year coincide with the Census: those who win the governorships and legislatures in the zero year have control over the district lines redrawn after the Census.

The biggest reason Democrats continue to lose the House despite winning more overall votes is that the Republican surge in 2010 allowed them to gerrymander Congressional and legislative district lines all around the country. A Democratic wave in 2020 would allow Democrats to redraw those lines after an even more favorable census, potentially giving them a decade of dominance similar to that held by Republicans today.

Here's one silver lining to Trump’s win

The above, coupled with the changing demographics in states like Texas, Arizona and Colorado (and even Oklahoma) where Latinos are increasingly stepping up to register to vote, should be a very sobering reality for the GOP.

Of course, we ALSO have to fully consider the failure that is the Trump administration and the current do-nothing republican dominated Congress.

Jake, your Dems invented and perfected gerrymandering, you loved it and we never heard a peep until you strated losing - bigly yuggge! Now gerrymader is a dirty word. Dems will lose again and again and again because America rejects your neoFascist, proCommunist Stalinism.

You really should run Hillary again in 2020, she beat Bernie AND Trump.

Besides we still have Uncle Vlad to hack the election

 

[nat4900]

Jake, your Dems invented and perfected gerrymandering, you loved it and we never heard a peep until you strated losing

Well, Frankie......"you never heard a peep???"

Lets see, since 2010 republicans began an ALL out gerrymandering as soon as they took congress, most of us have been on this forum for about the last 3 or 4 years.....DO THE FUCKING MATH...
LOL

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Jake, your Dems invented and perfected gerrymandering, you loved it and we never heard a peep until you strated losing

Well, Frankie......"you never heard a peep???"

Lets see, since 2010 republicans began an ALL out gerrymandering as soon as they took congress, most of us have been on this forum for about the last 3 or 4 years.....DO THE FUCKING MATH...
LOL

Jake, Your Dems gerrymandered every election up to 2010, why the crocodile tears now, just because you lost?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There is a reason why most of the country is red and blue is confined to the coasts and some failed cities around the Great Lakes. The reasons that made this division is only getting larger.