Why The Left Loves Socialism

[RASTAMEN]

i am right. you have nothing but fallacy.

That's funny since you are the one who has presented a logical fallacy and want to have an argument based on it. And let me again point out, the purpose of this thread is not to define what Socialism is. It is to discuss why some people embrace Socialism. If you have something to offer with regard to that topic, feel free to do so. I am not going to respond further to your inane and banal argument which has no rational basis.

Are you and your ilk implying the U.S. military is not a socialist welfare institution???

I am implying it, because they are not.

Tax payers make the military possible! The priviate sector doesn't spend one nickle on our military.

that does not make it social welfare idiot

Yes it does.

 

[NCC1701]

That's funny since you are the one who has presented a logical fallacy and want to have an argument based on it. And let me again point out, the purpose of this thread is not to define what Socialism is. It is to discuss why some people embrace Socialism. If you have something to offer with regard to that topic, feel free to do so. I am not going to respond further to your inane and banal argument which has no rational basis.

Are you and your ilk implying the U.S. military is not a socialist welfare institution???

I am implying it, because they are not.

Tax payers make the military possible! The priviate sector doesn't spend one nickle on our military.

that does not make it social welfare idiot

Yes it does.

nope

 

[danielpalos]

liberal socialists try to use capitalism, for all of its worth.

unlike national socialists on the fantastical, right wing.

as if the phrase 'all it's worth' actually means anything, empty platitudes are not profound, you are not just a hand waver, you are really bad at it.

Liberals are not fond of capitalism and economic freedom, period. You are trying to make up some sort of lame bullshit about the virtues of leftists and their 'enlightened' use of capitalism.

Our Founding Fathers, showed us the way. Only the national socialist, right wing, never gets it.

that's right dumbfuck, repeat your lies enough times and you'll actually believe them, gotta love the american left and their religion

All the lies are on the New BS GOP side, dupe. See sig. What happened to lock her up and Clintons the murderers and pedophiles news? Obama the dictator etc etc? What a pile of steaming bs...thanks Faux, Rush, Heritage etc etc etc. The more you listen, the less you know. "God Save the (greedy idiot GOP) Rich!"

I am not a GOPer, but the lies of the left are far worse than the lies of the right, and they have more. You are a lefty hack who only wants to see one side

just right wing projection? what lies does the left tell?

the right wing would have us believe in the general warfare and the common offense.

 

[danielpalos]

Repeat yourself one more time and you're going to make my Ignore List.

i am right. you have nothing but fallacy.

That's funny since you are the one who has presented a logical fallacy and want to have an argument based on it. And let me again point out, the purpose of this thread is not to define what Socialism is. It is to discuss why some people embrace Socialism. If you have something to offer with regard to that topic, feel free to do so. I am not going to respond further to your inane and banal argument which has no rational basis.

Are you and your ilk implying the U.S. military is not a socialist welfare institution???

I am implying it, because they are not.

pay is based on capital performance?

 

[NCC1701]

as if the phrase 'all it's worth' actually means anything, empty platitudes are not profound, you are not just a hand waver, you are really bad at it.

Liberals are not fond of capitalism and economic freedom, period. You are trying to make up some sort of lame bullshit about the virtues of leftists and their 'enlightened' use of capitalism.

Our Founding Fathers, showed us the way. Only the national socialist, right wing, never gets it.

that's right dumbfuck, repeat your lies enough times and you'll actually believe them, gotta love the american left and their religion

All the lies are on the New BS GOP side, dupe. See sig. What happened to lock her up and Clintons the murderers and pedophiles news? Obama the dictator etc etc? What a pile of steaming bs...thanks Faux, Rush, Heritage etc etc etc. The more you listen, the less you know. "God Save the (greedy idiot GOP) Rich!"

I am not a GOPer, but the lies of the left are far worse than the lies of the right, and they have more. You are a lefty hack who only wants to see one side

just right wing projection? what lies does the left tell?

the right wing would have us believe in the general warfare and the common offense.

ACA would save me money, for starters. If someone has to ask if democrats have ever lied, that someone is functionally retarded

 

[francoHFW]

Our Founding Fathers, showed us the way. Only the national socialist, right wing, never gets it.

that's right dumbfuck, repeat your lies enough times and you'll actually believe them, gotta love the american left and their religion

All the lies are on the New BS GOP side, dupe. See sig. What happened to lock her up and Clintons the murderers and pedophiles news? Obama the dictator etc etc? What a pile of steaming bs...thanks Faux, Rush, Heritage etc etc etc. The more you listen, the less you know. "God Save the (greedy idiot GOP) Rich!"

I am not a GOPer, but the lies of the left are far worse than the lies of the right, and they have more. You are a lefty hack who only wants to see one side

just right wing projection? what lies does the left tell?

the right wing would have us believe in the general warfare and the common offense.

ACA would save me money, for starters. If someone has to ask if democrats have ever lied, that someone is functionally retarded

Let's have a couple then- and NOT predictions sabotaged by the New BS GOP....

 

[regent]

So if the military is socialistic, does that mean it is communistic also?

 

[RASTAMEN]

So if the military is socialistic, does that mean it is communistic also?

The military as an institution and the military members on active duty, vets, and retirees are socialist!!!! The private sector do not pay in this re-guard.

 

[NCC1701]

that's right dumbfuck, repeat your lies enough times and you'll actually believe them, gotta love the american left and their religion

All the lies are on the New BS GOP side, dupe. See sig. What happened to lock her up and Clintons the murderers and pedophiles news? Obama the dictator etc etc? What a pile of steaming bs...thanks Faux, Rush, Heritage etc etc etc. The more you listen, the less you know. "God Save the (greedy idiot GOP) Rich!"

I am not a GOPer, but the lies of the left are far worse than the lies of the right, and they have more. You are a lefty hack who only wants to see one side

just right wing projection? what lies does the left tell?

the right wing would have us believe in the general warfare and the common offense.

ACA would save me money, for starters. If someone has to ask if democrats have ever lied, that someone is functionally retarded

Let's have a couple then- and NOT predictions sabotaged by the New BS GOP....

self serving lie, anything that doesn't work is the republicans fault, gotta love that old time liberal religion

I simply do not have enough time in my life to go through all the democrats lies, and what does it matter anyway, you are not honest enough to care as you are a liberal zealot.

Harry Reid lied about Mitt Romney’s taxes. He’s still not sorry.

One of the strangest incidents of the 2012 presidential campaign was when then-Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid accused then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney of having not paid any taxes over the past decade. That Reid made that allegation from the floor of the Senate made it even odder.

The problem with Reid's allegation? It's just not true. We know that, at least in 2011 and 2010, Romney did pay taxes. How do we know that? Because Romney released his tax returns for those years. In 2011, Romney paid $1.9 million in taxes; in 2010, he paid slightly more than $3 million in taxes.

Our own Fact Checker gave Reid Four Pinocchios for his "no taxes" claim. PolitiFact gave the claim a "Pants on Fire" rating.

 

[RASTAMEN]

All the lies are on the New BS GOP side, dupe. See sig. What happened to lock her up and Clintons the murderers and pedophiles news? Obama the dictator etc etc? What a pile of steaming bs...thanks Faux, Rush, Heritage etc etc etc. The more you listen, the less you know. "God Save the (greedy idiot GOP) Rich!"

I am not a GOPer, but the lies of the left are far worse than the lies of the right, and they have more. You are a lefty hack who only wants to see one side

just right wing projection? what lies does the left tell?

the right wing would have us believe in the general warfare and the common offense.

ACA would save me money, for starters. If someone has to ask if democrats have ever lied, that someone is functionally retarded

Let's have a couple then- and NOT predictions sabotaged by the New BS GOP....

self serving lie, anything that doesn't work is the republicans fault, gotta love that old time liberal religion

I simply do not have enough time in my life to go through all the democrats lies, and what does it matter anyway, you are not honest enough to care as you are a liberal zealot.

Harry Reid lied about Mitt Romney’s taxes. He’s still not sorry.

One of the strangest incidents of the 2012 presidential campaign was when then-Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid accused then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney of having not paid any taxes over the past decade. That Reid made that allegation from the floor of the Senate made it even odder.

The problem with Reid's allegation? It's just not true. We know that, at least in 2011 and 2010, Romney did pay taxes. How do we know that? Because Romney released his tax returns for those years. In 2011, Romney paid $1.9 million in taxes; in 2010, he paid slightly more than $3 million in taxes.

Our own Fact Checker gave Reid Four Pinocchios for his "no taxes" claim. PolitiFact gave the claim a "Pants on Fire" rating.

You're such a Christian. Why do white shitheads like you exist. You guys have RUINED this country with your backwater stupidity.

 

[francoHFW]

Our Founding Fathers, showed us the way. Only the national socialist, right wing, never gets it.

that's right dumbfuck, repeat your lies enough times and you'll actually believe them, gotta love the american left and their religion

All the lies are on the New BS GOP side, dupe. See sig. What happened to lock her up and Clintons the murderers and pedophiles news? Obama the dictator etc etc? What a pile of steaming bs...thanks Faux, Rush, Heritage etc etc etc. The more you listen, the less you know. "God Save the (greedy idiot GOP) Rich!"

I am not a GOPer, but the lies of the left are far worse than the lies of the right, and they have more. You are a lefty hack who only wants to see one side

just right wing projection? what lies does the left tell?

the right wing would have us believe in the general warfare and the common offense.

ACA would save me money, for starters. If someone has to ask if democrats have ever lied, that someone is functionally retarded

It would have. Only the lying GOP said immediately.

 

[francoHFW]

All the lies are on the New BS GOP side, dupe. See sig. What happened to lock her up and Clintons the murderers and pedophiles news? Obama the dictator etc etc? What a pile of steaming bs...thanks Faux, Rush, Heritage etc etc etc. The more you listen, the less you know. "God Save the (greedy idiot GOP) Rich!"

I am not a GOPer, but the lies of the left are far worse than the lies of the right, and they have more. You are a lefty hack who only wants to see one side

just right wing projection? what lies does the left tell?

the right wing would have us believe in the general warfare and the common offense.

ACA would save me money, for starters. If someone has to ask if democrats have ever lied, that someone is functionally retarded

Let's have a couple then- and NOT predictions sabotaged by the New BS GOP....

self serving lie, anything that doesn't work is the republicans fault, gotta love that old time liberal religion

I simply do not have enough time in my life to go through all the democrats lies, and what does it matter anyway, you are not honest enough to care as you are a liberal zealot.

Harry Reid lied about Mitt Romney’s taxes. He’s still not sorry.

One of the strangest incidents of the 2012 presidential campaign was when then-Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid accused then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney of having not paid any taxes over the past decade. That Reid made that allegation from the floor of the Senate made it even odder.

The problem with Reid's allegation? It's just not true. We know that, at least in 2011 and 2010, Romney did pay taxes. How do we know that? Because Romney released his tax returns for those years. In 2011, Romney paid $1.9 million in taxes; in 2010, he paid slightly more than $3 million in taxes.

Our own Fact Checker gave Reid Four Pinocchios for his "no taxes" claim. PolitiFact gave the claim a "Pants on Fire" rating.

A ploy to get him to release his taxes. Paid 12%. Higher than usual for him.

 

[francoHFW]

So if the military is socialistic, does that mean it is communistic also?

NEVER, dupe.

 

[Boss]

I liked being in a socialist organization, the military...

Except the military is not a socialist organization.

Sorry... it's just NOT.

Not true. The military is the hardest working socialist-welfare organization in the entire Nation.

Well this was already addressed a couple of pages ago, so I don't see the point in repeating what has been explained. The military is not Socialism.. socialist... or a social-welfare organization.

AGAIN... the thread topic is NOT "What IS Socialism?"

Can you leftist retards please pay attention to the TOPIC?

 

[francoHFW]

Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc. Pedophile, murderer Clintons. Obama had 2 years of control, his policies caused this. etc etc etc- never stops.

 

[francoHFW]

I liked being in a socialist organization, the military...

Except the military is not a socialist organization.

Sorry... it's just NOT.

Not true. The military is the hardest working socialist-welfare organization in the entire Nation.

Well this was already addressed a couple of pages ago, so I don't see the point in repeating what has been explained. The military is not Socialism.. socialist... or a social-welfare organization.

AGAIN... the thread topic is NOT "What IS Socialism?"

Can you leftist retards please pay attention to the TOPIC?

How can you RW jackasses debate the topic when you don't know what it IS? lol. It's fair capitalism with a safety net, ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC. Who TF is against that? Oh, right, the New BS GOP.

 

[Coyote]

Thread has been cleaned of some flaming - let's get back on topic folks. A review of Post #1 should help you.

 

[Boss]

Prove/show the board members that the military as an institution and military members are not socialist! Active duty, vets and retirees are socialist; including theirs wives and children!

1) This is not the topic of this thread.

2) Several pages back, I went through a very lengthy but thorough explanation of why the military is not Socialism, nor are highways, fire departments, police departments, etc. These are things the LEFT likes to claim are "Socialism" but they are not.

3) Before commenting further, you need to read the fucking thread. Your question has already been answered. Even though, your question has absolutely nothing to do with why some people embrace Socialism. THAT is the TOPIC!

4) You don't get to hijack other people's threads. If you want to start a thread to debate whether or not the military is Socialism, you are free to do that here.... it's not all that hard to create a thread.

5) Either get on topic or shut the fuck up. Thank you.

 

[regent]

So have the posters come up with a correct definition of socialism as yet or do we follow custom and make up our own definition?

 

[NCC1701]

I am not a GOPer, but the lies of the left are far worse than the lies of the right, and they have more. You are a lefty hack who only wants to see one side

just right wing projection? what lies does the left tell?

the right wing would have us believe in the general warfare and the common offense.

ACA would save me money, for starters. If someone has to ask if democrats have ever lied, that someone is functionally retarded

Let's have a couple then- and NOT predictions sabotaged by the New BS GOP....

self serving lie, anything that doesn't work is the republicans fault, gotta love that old time liberal religion

I simply do not have enough time in my life to go through all the democrats lies, and what does it matter anyway, you are not honest enough to care as you are a liberal zealot.

Harry Reid lied about Mitt Romney’s taxes. He’s still not sorry.

One of the strangest incidents of the 2012 presidential campaign was when then-Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid accused then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney of having not paid any taxes over the past decade. That Reid made that allegation from the floor of the Senate made it even odder.

The problem with Reid's allegation? It's just not true. We know that, at least in 2011 and 2010, Romney did pay taxes. How do we know that? Because Romney released his tax returns for those years. In 2011, Romney paid $1.9 million in taxes; in 2010, he paid slightly more than $3 million in taxes.

Our own Fact Checker gave Reid Four Pinocchios for his "no taxes" claim. PolitiFact gave the claim a "Pants on Fire" rating.

You're such a Christian. Why do white shitheads like you exist. You guys have RUINED this country with your backwater stupidity.

another lie, I am an atheist, as if I needed any more evidence the left lies