Why was he running away?

[HereWeGoAgain]

And he shouldnt have been a scofflaw.
Maybe if law breakers knew there was a possibility of being shot they'd stop being dumb asses.

Wrong. No American should fear being shot by the police unless they are threatening somebody's life. This isn't North Korea.

So what if they're a known violent offender? I can think of plenty of reasons where a cop should shoot a fleeing suspect.

The only one that's justifiable is if the suspect is armed or if he's an escaped felon, armed or not.

What about a perp suspected of a felony?
I have to question why anyone would run from the police unless they expected jail time for a current,past or pending charge.
There is absolutely no other explanation as to why they would run.

The SC has ruled on this. There's a narrow criteria that justifies shooting a fleeing suspect. Outside of that it's illegal.

I understand that,and the police actually have wide authority as to when to apply deadly force.
And sometimes they abuse that authority.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

There's already plenty of training on correct procedure to deal with people resisting and running away. It's so simple I can sum it up in three words.


Don't shoot them.

Not enough apparently because it keeps happening all around the country. There are physical factors like overload of adrenaline that might not be covered in training.

You and I both know that a lack of training isn't to blame here. The cop was trained not to shoot unarmed suspects in the back. He did it anyway. Training was clearly not at fault.

I said I wasn't justifying what this cop did, shooting him in the back goes beyond adrenaline rush. I was speaking in a general sense that all the collective police brutality cases have resisting arrest in common. How can we better train cops to deal with the adrenaline rush? I also wondered if even with this cop, who represents the worst of the worst, if running was the trigger that set him off. Now obviously he shouldn't have been a cop in the first place but how would the PD know that ahead of time? That's were the body cams come into play. If this cop had aggressive behavior prior to this happening a body cam might have caught that behavior prior to this incident and he might have been fired.

He did. A complaint was filed against him for excessive use of force with a tazer. That's why I think the family's lawsuit will meet with success

If this cop is found aggressive in the Tazer case then yes I think the family will have an excellent case for a law suit. Of course all the money should go to burial expenses of the victim and the rest should go in a trust fund to the victims kids to help support and raise them.

Get real. Walter Scott's family is going to retire on the civil/wrongful death suit brought against the North Charleston P.D.

The HOA that let George Zimmerman carry a gun paid $1M for their stupidity.
Trayvon Martin's parents settle wrongful-death claim
Trayvon Martin wrongful death claim more than 1 million - tribunedigital-orlandosentinel

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I was one of the first on the bandwagon to say to hang the cop who shot the unarmed black man in the back in SC.

Tonight I saw the dashcam video from the police cruiser, and I want to know, what caused the black man to get out of his car and take off running?

He shouldn't have been killed over it(I don't think), but I would like to know the answer.

Doing what little he could to get away from a murderer?

Just a guess...

I don't support what the cop did but if the guy had just allowed himself to be taken in he'd probably be alive right now and probably out on Bail/bond.

The guy has zero culpability in what was done to him. Zero.

I'm not at all justifying him being killed but wonder if he'd be alive if he'd stayed in the car like the cop told him too. All the latest brutality situations have one thing in common, all were resisting or disobeying the police. Maybe greater emphasis has to be made in police training for how to handle those who disobey orders or resist arrest. I also think all police should have to have dash cams and body cams. They will protect the public and the cop,allow review of performance by the officer and highlight problem area's.

They were all unarmed, too. Stop making excuses for bad cops with guns who shoot first and ask questions later, you fucking idiot.

Oh STFU. This is only the second video I've seen where the cops were in the wrong.
99% of the shit you liberals cry about are legit shootings.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Wrong. No American should fear being shot by the police unless they are threatening somebody's life. This isn't North Korea.

So what if they're a known violent offender? I can think of plenty of reasons where a cop should shoot a fleeing suspect.

The only one that's justifiable is if the suspect is armed or if he's an escaped felon, armed or not.

What about a perp suspected of a felony?
I have to question why anyone would run from the police unless they expected jail time for a current,past or pending charge.
There is absolutely no other explanation as to why they would run.

The SC has ruled on this. There's a narrow criteria that justifies shooting a fleeing suspect. Outside of that it's illegal.

I understand that,and the police actually have wide authority as to when to apply deadly force.
And sometimes they abuse that authority.

More times than are reported in the news. The only answer to stop the redneck stupidity of white cops is Cop Cams.

They have shown through a mere glimpse of public exposure in random cases that they cannot conduct themselves professionally.

So we have to treat them for what they are: Big stupid white guys who cannot be left alone around black people while carrying deadly weapons.

They need nannies. They need big government to keep them under control.

What a joke.

 

[Indofred]

Well if you look at the video, he was clearly safe from harm until he ran.

Perhaps you can explain how your word constitutes proof.

California sheriff suspends 10 deputies in beating of fleeing horseman Reuters

The sheriff of San Bernardino County, California, said on Friday he has suspended 10 deputies involved in the videotaped beating of a suspect who appeared to have surrendered and was lying on the ground after making a failed getaway attempt on horseback.

 

[Marianne]

I was one of the first on the bandwagon to say to hang the cop who shot the unarmed black man in the back in SC.

Tonight I saw the dashcam video from the police cruiser, and I want to know, what caused the black man to get out of his car and take off running?

He shouldn't have been killed over it(I don't think), but I would like to know the answer.

Doing what little he could to get away from a murderer?

Just a guess...

I don't support what the cop did but if the guy had just allowed himself to be taken in he'd probably be alive right now and probably out on Bail/bond.

The guy has zero culpability in what was done to him. Zero.

I'm not at all justifying him being killed but wonder if he'd be alive if he'd stayed in the car like the cop told him too. All the latest brutality situations have one thing in common, all were resisting or disobeying the police. Maybe greater emphasis has to be made in police training for how to handle those who disobey orders or resist arrest. I also think all police should have to have dash cams and body cams. They will protect the public and the cop,allow review of performance by the officer and highlight problem area's.

They were all unarmed, too. Stop making excuses for bad cops with guns who shoot first and ask questions later, you fucking idiot.

How do the cops know they are unarmed until the frisk them? If they aren't complying and are combative then the cop has to assume they are armed. It's easy to scream "unarmed" in hindsight. Then if the perp fights with the cop there is the chance he will go for the cops gun like Brown did,then the cops life is in danger. Stop making excuses for criminals and bad behavior " you fucking idiot".

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So what if they're a known violent offender? I can think of plenty of reasons where a cop should shoot a fleeing suspect.

The only one that's justifiable is if the suspect is armed or if he's an escaped felon, armed or not.

What about a perp suspected of a felony?
I have to question why anyone would run from the police unless they expected jail time for a current,past or pending charge.
There is absolutely no other explanation as to why they would run.

The SC has ruled on this. There's a narrow criteria that justifies shooting a fleeing suspect. Outside of that it's illegal.

I understand that,and the police actually have wide authority as to when to apply deadly force.
And sometimes they abuse that authority.

More times than are reported in the news. The only answer to stop the redneck stupidity of white cops is Cop Cams.

They have shown through a mere glimpse of public exposure in random cases that they cannot conduct themselves professionally.

So we have to treat them for what they are: Big stupid white guys who cannot be left alone around black people while carrying deadly weapons.

They need nannies. They need big government to keep them under control.

What a joke.

I'm all for body cams. It'll put an end to all these ghetto scum crying police brutality and it'll put an end to the cops who actually are assholes.
I'd be willing to bet it'll clear more cops than it will the shit bags they deal with daily.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Doing what little he could to get away from a murderer?

Just a guess...

I don't support what the cop did but if the guy had just allowed himself to be taken in he'd probably be alive right now and probably out on Bail/bond.

The guy has zero culpability in what was done to him. Zero.

I'm not at all justifying him being killed but wonder if he'd be alive if he'd stayed in the car like the cop told him too. All the latest brutality situations have one thing in common, all were resisting or disobeying the police. Maybe greater emphasis has to be made in police training for how to handle those who disobey orders or resist arrest. I also think all police should have to have dash cams and body cams. They will protect the public and the cop,allow review of performance by the officer and highlight problem area's.

They were all unarmed, too. Stop making excuses for bad cops with guns who shoot first and ask questions later, you fucking idiot.

Oh STFU. This is only the second video I've seen where the cops were in the wrong.
99% of the shit you liberals cry about are legit shootings.

Two? So every action of a cop on a citizen is on video?
Are you relying on people like Feidin Santana just walking to work with a smartphone to keep you informed? Idiot.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Doing what little he could to get away from a murderer?

Just a guess...

I don't support what the cop did but if the guy had just allowed himself to be taken in he'd probably be alive right now and probably out on Bail/bond.

The guy has zero culpability in what was done to him. Zero.

I'm not at all justifying him being killed but wonder if he'd be alive if he'd stayed in the car like the cop told him too. All the latest brutality situations have one thing in common, all were resisting or disobeying the police. Maybe greater emphasis has to be made in police training for how to handle those who disobey orders or resist arrest. I also think all police should have to have dash cams and body cams. They will protect the public and the cop,allow review of performance by the officer and highlight problem area's.

They were all unarmed, too. Stop making excuses for bad cops with guns who shoot first and ask questions later, you fucking idiot.

How do the cops know they are unarmed until the frisk them? If they aren't complying and are combative then the cop has to assume they are armed. It's easy to scream "unarmed" in hindsight. Then if the perp fights with the cop there is the chance he will go for the cops gun like Brown did,then the cops life is in danger. Stop making excuses for criminals and bad behavior " you fucking idiot".

Walter Scott was not combative. Michael Slager lied, someone died.
You must live in a very white area and you must be very white.

 

[Marianne]

I don't support what the cop did but if the guy had just allowed himself to be taken in he'd probably be alive right now and probably out on Bail/bond.

The guy has zero culpability in what was done to him. Zero.

I'm not at all justifying him being killed but wonder if he'd be alive if he'd stayed in the car like the cop told him too. All the latest brutality situations have one thing in common, all were resisting or disobeying the police. Maybe greater emphasis has to be made in police training for how to handle those who disobey orders or resist arrest. I also think all police should have to have dash cams and body cams. They will protect the public and the cop,allow review of performance by the officer and highlight problem area's.

They were all unarmed, too. Stop making excuses for bad cops with guns who shoot first and ask questions later, you fucking idiot.

Oh STFU. This is only the second video I've seen where the cops were in the wrong.
99% of the shit you liberals cry about are legit shootings.

Two? So every action of a cop on a citizen is on video?
Are you relying on people like Feidin Santana just walking to work with a smartphone to keep you informed? Idiot.

Link or post video,news report or it didn't happen. I can't tell shit from that picture.

 

[Andylusion]

No.. and yes.

According to the law, as it is written, the answer is no. Which is why the police officer will be tried, and I would put a good wager, he'll be convicted.

However, I believe the answer should be yes. You don't have the right to resist arrest. I so tired of people fight, attacking, taunting, resisting, police officers, and then whining that the police shoot them.

You *DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESIST ARREST*. Police are officers of the law. They have authority. You are to obey them. If you don't, then I personally don't give rats butt what happens to you. It's just that simple. DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD. When you don't.... screw you.

I've had more run-ins with police in my life, than any 3 of you people put together.

I've never been tased, never beaten, never hit, never shot, never cuffed even. Why? It's real simple people.... when the officer says stay in the car, I stay in the car. When the officer says get out, I get out. When the officer says put your hand where I can see them, I put my hands where they can see them.

I don't argue. I don't taunt. I don't insult. I don't spit at, or harass. When they ask a question, I answer the question. I say "yes sir", and "no sir", and I am respectful.

Why is this so hard?

You know, what is even more ironic, is that these very same people, if they are sent to prison, suddenly they know how to be respectful. All of a sudden, treating people with respect, magically is something they all grasp.

The Social Order of the Underworld How Prison Gangs Govern the American Penal System David Skarbek 9780199328505 Amazon.com Books

The Social Order of the Underworld: How Prison Gangs Govern the American Penal System

A fascinating look at prison gangs. Key factor? Respect. You go to prison, you treat everyone there with respect. IF you don't, you get your face beat in, or stabbed, or worse. Funny how all these people can grasp respect in the prison, but can't grasp it with police. Yet if you people treated Police with HALF the respect they do each other in the prison system, there wouldn't be any of these police shootings.

Juries deliberate for days before deciding a vicious murderer deserves to die, but here you are suggesting that cops should waste anyone who resists and runs. I find it disturbing how cheaply we hold human life these days that we so easily call for the death of other people. We are becoming a culture of death and you are part of it.

Yes absolutely. People who run, are a danger to society. If you are willing to run from a police officer, then clearly you have absolutely no respect for the law.

No, I don't want anyone to die. STOP BREAKING THE LAW.

The whole reason we have such a high murder rate in our society, is because we don't enforce the law. Shoot criminals, and fewer innocent people will be killed. I have ZERO care for the life of a law breaker. 100% care, for the life of the innocent.

We've played it your way for 50 years, and the highest murder rate of any 1st world country, is the result. Time for a new plan.

You're ability to rationalize gunning people down in the streets in no way makes it right. Running from cops is wrong, but killing him as a punishment disproportionate to the crime. And an obese 50 year old man is not a danger to society. Your whole argument is based on exaggeration. It seems you just want black people to be gunned down and any excuse will do.

You are of course allowed to be full of crap, and wrong. I don't care what you think. Never did, never will.

I stand by my prior statement.

I know you do. Maybe when a cop hydes your backside and handcuffs your dead corpse you'll finally get it.

You show me the person who is completely respectful, who does exactly as he is told, who gets shot.

Because that's how I am with police officers. I do exactly what I'm told, and treat them with the highest respect.

When you show me that video.... the video where the guy does 100% exactly as he's told, and the officer just blow him away.... then you got me on your side. I'll have that cop hanged.

But of course, you can't show me that video can you?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

The only one that's justifiable is if the suspect is armed or if he's an escaped felon, armed or not.

What about a perp suspected of a felony?
I have to question why anyone would run from the police unless they expected jail time for a current,past or pending charge.
There is absolutely no other explanation as to why they would run.

The SC has ruled on this. There's a narrow criteria that justifies shooting a fleeing suspect. Outside of that it's illegal.

I understand that,and the police actually have wide authority as to when to apply deadly force.
And sometimes they abuse that authority.

More times than are reported in the news. The only answer to stop the redneck stupidity of white cops is Cop Cams.

They have shown through a mere glimpse of public exposure in random cases that they cannot conduct themselves professionally.

So we have to treat them for what they are: Big stupid white guys who cannot be left alone around black people while carrying deadly weapons.

They need nannies. They need big government to keep them under control.

What a joke.

I'm all for body cams. It'll put an end to all these ghetto scum crying police brutality and it'll put an end to the cops who actually are assholes.
I'd be willing to bet it'll clear more cops than it will the shit bags they deal with daily.

Well, in case you haven't learned lately, those PDs that have started using cop cams have a sharply reduced frequency of incidents. The redneck cops hate them.
It's the end of the way to keep themselves from getting bored on the job.

New Publication Available: The Effect of Body-Worn Cameras on Police Use-of-Force
"The findings suggest more than a 50% reduction in the total number of incidents of use-of-force compared to control-conditions, and nearly ten times more citizens’ complaints in the 12-months prior to the experiment."
New Publication Available The Effect of Body-Worn Cameras on Police Use-of-Force Police Foundation

 

[Andylusion]

I don't support what the cop did but if the guy had just allowed himself to be taken in he'd probably be alive right now and probably out on Bail/bond.

The guy has zero culpability in what was done to him. Zero.

I'm not at all justifying him being killed but wonder if he'd be alive if he'd stayed in the car like the cop told him too. All the latest brutality situations have one thing in common, all were resisting or disobeying the police. Maybe greater emphasis has to be made in police training for how to handle those who disobey orders or resist arrest. I also think all police should have to have dash cams and body cams. They will protect the public and the cop,allow review of performance by the officer and highlight problem area's.

They were all unarmed, too. Stop making excuses for bad cops with guns who shoot first and ask questions later, you fucking idiot.

How do the cops know they are unarmed until the frisk them? If they aren't complying and are combative then the cop has to assume they are armed. It's easy to scream "unarmed" in hindsight. Then if the perp fights with the cop there is the chance he will go for the cops gun like Brown did,then the cops life is in danger. Stop making excuses for criminals and bad behavior " you fucking idiot".

Walter Scott was not combative. Michael Slager lied, someone died.
You must live in a very white area and you must be very white.

Don't care. Did he run from the officer? If yes, then we lost another criminal. Score one for society.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Juries deliberate for days before deciding a vicious murderer deserves to die, but here you are suggesting that cops should waste anyone who resists and runs. I find it disturbing how cheaply we hold human life these days that we so easily call for the death of other people. We are becoming a culture of death and you are part of it.

Yes absolutely. People who run, are a danger to society. If you are willing to run from a police officer, then clearly you have absolutely no respect for the law.

No, I don't want anyone to die. STOP BREAKING THE LAW.

The whole reason we have such a high murder rate in our society, is because we don't enforce the law. Shoot criminals, and fewer innocent people will be killed. I have ZERO care for the life of a law breaker. 100% care, for the life of the innocent.

We've played it your way for 50 years, and the highest murder rate of any 1st world country, is the result. Time for a new plan.

You're ability to rationalize gunning people down in the streets in no way makes it right. Running from cops is wrong, but killing him as a punishment disproportionate to the crime. And an obese 50 year old man is not a danger to society. Your whole argument is based on exaggeration. It seems you just want black people to be gunned down and any excuse will do.

You are of course allowed to be full of crap, and wrong. I don't care what you think. Never did, never will.

I stand by my prior statement.

I know you do. Maybe when a cop hydes your backside and handcuffs your dead corpse you'll finally get it.

You show me the person who is completely respectful, who does exactly as he is told, who gets shot.

Because that's how I am with police officers. I do exactly what I'm told, and treat them with the highest respect.

.....

Really....Well why don't you recount the last few encounters you've had with the police. Go ahead, I can't wait to hear this. Why were you pulled over and when, where?

 

[Andylusion]

Not enough apparently because it keeps happening all around the country. There are physical factors like overload of adrenaline that might not be covered in training.

You and I both know that a lack of training isn't to blame here. The cop was trained not to shoot unarmed suspects in the back. He did it anyway. Training was clearly not at fault.

I said I wasn't justifying what this cop did, shooting him in the back goes beyond adrenaline rush. I was speaking in a general sense that all the collective police brutality cases have resisting arrest in common. How can we better train cops to deal with the adrenaline rush? I also wondered if even with this cop, who represents the worst of the worst, if running was the trigger that set him off. Now obviously he shouldn't have been a cop in the first place but how would the PD know that ahead of time? That's were the body cams come into play. If this cop had aggressive behavior prior to this happening a body cam might have caught that behavior prior to this incident and he might have been fired.

He did. A complaint was filed against him for excessive use of force with a tazer. That's why I think the family's lawsuit will meet with success

If this cop is found aggressive in the Tazer case then yes I think the family will have an excellent case for a law suit. Of course all the money should go to burial expenses of the victim and the rest should go in a trust fund to the victims kids to help support and raise them.

Get real. Walter Scott's family is going to retire on the civil/wrongful death suit brought against the North Charleston P.D.

The HOA that let George Zimmerman carry a gun paid $1M for their stupidity.
Trayvon Martin's parents settle wrongful-death claim
Trayvon Martin wrongful death claim more than 1 million - tribunedigital-orlandosentinel

That's a triumph of evil. Congrats on defending the criminals in society. Hope a criminal doesn't mug you someday. Then you'll be screaming the police didn't help.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Juries deliberate for days before deciding a vicious murderer deserves to die, but here you are suggesting that cops should waste anyone who resists and runs. I find it disturbing how cheaply we hold human life these days that we so easily call for the death of other people. We are becoming a culture of death and you are part of it.

Yes absolutely. People who run, are a danger to society. If you are willing to run from a police officer, then clearly you have absolutely no respect for the law.

No, I don't want anyone to die. STOP BREAKING THE LAW.

The whole reason we have such a high murder rate in our society, is because we don't enforce the law. Shoot criminals, and fewer innocent people will be killed. I have ZERO care for the life of a law breaker. 100% care, for the life of the innocent.

We've played it your way for 50 years, and the highest murder rate of any 1st world country, is the result. Time for a new plan.

You're ability to rationalize gunning people down in the streets in no way makes it right. Running from cops is wrong, but killing him as a punishment disproportionate to the crime. And an obese 50 year old man is not a danger to society. Your whole argument is based on exaggeration. It seems you just want black people to be gunned down and any excuse will do.

You are of course allowed to be full of crap, and wrong. I don't care what you think. Never did, never will.

I stand by my prior statement.

I know you do. Maybe when a cop hydes your backside and handcuffs your dead corpse you'll finally get it.

You show me the person who is completely respectful, who does exactly as he is told, who gets shot.

Because that's how I am with police officers. I do exactly what I'm told, and treat them with the highest respect.

When you show me that video.... the video where the guy does 100% exactly as he's told, and the officer just blow him away.... then you got me on your side. I'll have that cop hanged.

But of course, you can't show me that video can you?

Guy was just trying to give the asshole cop his I.D.
Now sit down and STFU and get your rope ready, stupid cowboy.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What about a perp suspected of a felony?
I have to question why anyone would run from the police unless they expected jail time for a current,past or pending charge.
There is absolutely no other explanation as to why they would run.

The SC has ruled on this. There's a narrow criteria that justifies shooting a fleeing suspect. Outside of that it's illegal.

I understand that,and the police actually have wide authority as to when to apply deadly force.
And sometimes they abuse that authority.

More times than are reported in the news. The only answer to stop the redneck stupidity of white cops is Cop Cams.

They have shown through a mere glimpse of public exposure in random cases that they cannot conduct themselves professionally.

So we have to treat them for what they are: Big stupid white guys who cannot be left alone around black people while carrying deadly weapons.

They need nannies. They need big government to keep them under control.

What a joke.

I'm all for body cams. It'll put an end to all these ghetto scum crying police brutality and it'll put an end to the cops who actually are assholes.
I'd be willing to bet it'll clear more cops than it will the shit bags they deal with daily.

Well, in case you haven't learned lately, those PDs that have started using cop cams have a sharply reduced frequency of incidents. The redneck cops hate them.
It's the end of the way to keep themselves from getting bored on the job.

New Publication Available: The Effect of Body-Worn Cameras on Police Use-of-Force
"The findings suggest more than a 50% reduction in the total number of incidents of use-of-force compared to control-conditions, and nearly ten times more citizens’ complaints in the 12-months prior to the experiment."
New Publication Available The Effect of Body-Worn Cameras on Police Use-of-Force Police Foundation

You mean a 50% reduction of police brutality because the perp couldnt lie about it.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yes absolutely. People who run, are a danger to society. If you are willing to run from a police officer, then clearly you have absolutely no respect for the law.

No, I don't want anyone to die. STOP BREAKING THE LAW.

The whole reason we have such a high murder rate in our society, is because we don't enforce the law. Shoot criminals, and fewer innocent people will be killed. I have ZERO care for the life of a law breaker. 100% care, for the life of the innocent.

We've played it your way for 50 years, and the highest murder rate of any 1st world country, is the result. Time for a new plan.

You're ability to rationalize gunning people down in the streets in no way makes it right. Running from cops is wrong, but killing him as a punishment disproportionate to the crime. And an obese 50 year old man is not a danger to society. Your whole argument is based on exaggeration. It seems you just want black people to be gunned down and any excuse will do.

You are of course allowed to be full of crap, and wrong. I don't care what you think. Never did, never will.

I stand by my prior statement.

I know you do. Maybe when a cop hydes your backside and handcuffs your dead corpse you'll finally get it.

You show me the person who is completely respectful, who does exactly as he is told, who gets shot.

Because that's how I am with police officers. I do exactly what I'm told, and treat them with the highest respect.

When you show me that video.... the video where the guy does 100% exactly as he's told, and the officer just blow him away.... then you got me on your side. I'll have that cop hanged.

But of course, you can't show me that video can you?

Guy was just trying to give the asshole cop his I.D.
Now sit down and STFU and get your rope ready, stupid cowboy.

And this is one of the videos I was referring to.
The cop was flat out wrong.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

The SC has ruled on this. There's a narrow criteria that justifies shooting a fleeing suspect. Outside of that it's illegal.

I understand that,and the police actually have wide authority as to when to apply deadly force.
And sometimes they abuse that authority.

More times than are reported in the news. The only answer to stop the redneck stupidity of white cops is Cop Cams.

They have shown through a mere glimpse of public exposure in random cases that they cannot conduct themselves professionally.

So we have to treat them for what they are: Big stupid white guys who cannot be left alone around black people while carrying deadly weapons.

They need nannies. They need big government to keep them under control.

What a joke.

I'm all for body cams. It'll put an end to all these ghetto scum crying police brutality and it'll put an end to the cops who actually are assholes.
I'd be willing to bet it'll clear more cops than it will the shit bags they deal with daily.

Well, in case you haven't learned lately, those PDs that have started using cop cams have a sharply reduced frequency of incidents. The redneck cops hate them.
It's the end of the way to keep themselves from getting bored on the job.

New Publication Available: The Effect of Body-Worn Cameras on Police Use-of-Force
"The findings suggest more than a 50% reduction in the total number of incidents of use-of-force compared to control-conditions, and nearly ten times more citizens’ complaints in the 12-months prior to the experiment."
New Publication Available The Effect of Body-Worn Cameras on Police Use-of-Force Police Foundation

You mean a 50% reduction of police brutality because the perp couldnt lie about it.

You can't be this stupid. The one with the gun rules the day, dumb-ass. You must have missed all those Clint Eastwood movies.

This is what I mean about fucking idiots like you who conventiently dismiss the word "unarmed" from the story. Let's get some stories going about gun fights between these thugs and the police. Someone post one. Let's keep it real here. Actual video of someone firing BACK at the cops.

 

[Andylusion]

Yes absolutely. People who run, are a danger to society. If you are willing to run from a police officer, then clearly you have absolutely no respect for the law.

No, I don't want anyone to die. STOP BREAKING THE LAW.

The whole reason we have such a high murder rate in our society, is because we don't enforce the law. Shoot criminals, and fewer innocent people will be killed. I have ZERO care for the life of a law breaker. 100% care, for the life of the innocent.

We've played it your way for 50 years, and the highest murder rate of any 1st world country, is the result. Time for a new plan.

You're ability to rationalize gunning people down in the streets in no way makes it right. Running from cops is wrong, but killing him as a punishment disproportionate to the crime. And an obese 50 year old man is not a danger to society. Your whole argument is based on exaggeration. It seems you just want black people to be gunned down and any excuse will do.

You are of course allowed to be full of crap, and wrong. I don't care what you think. Never did, never will.

I stand by my prior statement.

I know you do. Maybe when a cop hydes your backside and handcuffs your dead corpse you'll finally get it.

You show me the person who is completely respectful, who does exactly as he is told, who gets shot.

Because that's how I am with police officers. I do exactly what I'm told, and treat them with the highest respect.

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Really....Well why don't you recount the last few encounters you've had with the police. Go ahead, I can't wait to hear this. Why were you pulled over and when, where?

One I was parked at a vacant lot in Delaware County, when Delaware PD pulled up, and started investigating.

Another was one where I was a complete idiot, and drove onto Wright Pat airforce base, without authorization or ID, and I failed to mention I had a CCW. I had police box my car in on all sides, and guys with M16s all around my car.

Another, was 1 AM, I was coming back from a bar (which I never should have been at), and the officer pulled his gun on me (apparently I did pull over fast enough).

Another was doing 45 in a 25 zone, because I was driving an 82 Buick and the speedo was busted. (i had honestly no idea how fast I was going).

I have actually forgotten more than that.

Again, in every single instance, I said "Yes sir" and "No sir" and did precisely what I was told to do. Several of them I got tickets (and rightfully so), and others I did not.

But I was never beaten, never attacked, never harassed, never tased, never shot. Why? Respect, and following orders. The police are in fact the law. I obey the police. That's really all there is to it.