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As far as CONSERVATIVES being "charitable" yes SOME of them are but I think MOST of them have NO sympathy for the poor. They will screem and yell that they DESERVE to be where they are because they don't "WANT" to work because they "ENJOY" sponging off of welfare as if it is such a WONDERFUL life. Get REAL it is NOT!
The Vatican doesn't own the churches in this country.Other than Orthodox, nada.
That's ridiculous.
There is a chain of command that does end in Rome. Even Special Orders which may be separate from local Rule account directly to Rome.
My Diocese. Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn
The Voice of the Vatican. The World Seen From Rome
Catholic Web Site NEW ADVENT: Home
I agree that helping the poor shouldn't mean just handing money over to them.
But I disagree that it can't mean the government...after all the government IS the people. I also don't think Jesus was talking about the church, as there was no "church" at the time.
It will be a red letter day in human history when We, The People recognize the competition we have with organized religions for the hearts of the next generation, at least with regards to education.
When it comes to protecting the weak throughout our history, religion, despite some successful examples, has failed pretty miserably... It has been a willing and paid accomplice to brutality for economic gain more than a few times, religion has....
Anyhoo - I digress... Perhaps it is time to let 'public' authority give it a shot?
I think that's about right. Since social security, medicare and child welfare kicked in, we as a populace are healthier, less poor and even score better on standard achievement tests compared to when charity was all private sector. Heck, somewhere along the way we even became a superpower.I agree that helping the poor shouldn't mean just handing money over to them.
But I disagree that it can't mean the government...after all the government IS the people. I also don't think Jesus was talking about the church, as there was no "church" at the time.
It will be a red letter day in human history when We, The People recognize the competition we have with organized religions for the hearts of the next generation, at least with regards to education.
When it comes to protecting the weak throughout our history, religion, despite some successful examples, has failed pretty miserably... It has been a willing and paid accomplice to brutality for economic gain more than a few times, religion has....
Anyhoo - I digress... Perhaps it is time to let 'public' authority give it a shot?
The Vatican doesn't own the churches in this country.
There is a chain of command that does end in Rome. Even Special Orders which may be separate from local Rule account directly to Rome.
My Diocese. Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn
The Voice of the Vatican. The World Seen From Rome
Catholic Web Site NEW ADVENT: Home
Yes, the "leader" (the standard, so that each church celebrates the life and death of Yeshua the same, the mass is kept consistant, no matter how far away from Rome) of the church is in Rome. Each diocese has its own funds and contributes funds upwards (the chain of command) or can receive funds from the group that supports them (usually missionary churches). That said, each church decides how their resources are spent. The pope does not decide what charities are supported by each diocese, or how the operational costs are spent.
Religion has been usurped today by Greed, the modern phenomenon that still sees the tragedy in the world and wants a reason why but hasn't either the resources or the empathy to know why. The modern minister in their enormous cathedrals need a way to justify extravagant materialism, for themselves and for some of their flock, they usually find it in Andrew Carnegie hooey.
"With apologies to Natalie, I think there's a kind of a silliness to banging away at religious beliefs for their obvious falsehood, when in fact, if you're an evolutionist, the only way you would want to evaluate these beliefs is to examine what they cause people to do. Do they help people function in their communities? Then this might be an explanation for why they exist. It also makes it unnecessary to criticize these ideas, again and again, because they depart from factual reality. We should be more sophisticated in the way we evaluate beliefs." David Sloan Wilson
Edge: GOD VS. SCIENCE: A DEBATE BETWEEN NATALIE ANGIER AND DAVID SLOAN WILSON
Amazon.com: Why Jesus Would Never, Ever Vote Republican (9781419697593): Richard John Siviur: Books
http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/
Taming the Savage Market
Amazon.com: Jesus Was a Liberal: How the Conservative Agenda Is a Rejection of Christ's Teachings (9780965761062): Jerry Wilde: Books
Amazon.com: Jesus Was a Liberal: Reclaiming Christianity for All (9780230614291): Scotty McLennan: Books
Amazon.com: Perfect Freedom: Why Liberal Christianity Might Be the Faith You're Looking For (9781905047185): Brian Mountford: Books
Jesus preached that we should help the poor...that is indisputable.
I agree that helping the poor shouldn't mean just handing money over to them.
But I disagree that it can't mean the government...after all the government IS the people. I also don't think Jesus was talking about the church, as there was no "church" at the time.
It will be a red letter day in human history when We, The People recognize the competition we have with organized religions for the hearts of the next generation, at least with regards to education.
When it comes to protecting the weak throughout our history, religion, despite some successful examples, has failed pretty miserably... It has been a willing and paid accomplice to brutality for economic gain more than a few times, religion has....
Anyhoo - I digress... Perhaps it is time to let 'public' authority give it a shot?
The same Public Authority thats keeping you medicated and deluded right now?
Religion has been usurped today by Greed, the modern phenomenon that still sees the tragedy in the world and wants a reason why but hasn't either the resources or the empathy to know why. The modern minister in their enormous cathedrals need a way to justify extravagant materialism, for themselves and for some of their flock, they usually find it in Andrew Carnegie hooey.
"With apologies to Natalie, I think there's a kind of a silliness to banging away at religious beliefs for their obvious falsehood, when in fact, if you're an evolutionist, the only way you would want to evaluate these beliefs is to examine what they cause people to do. Do they help people function in their communities? Then this might be an explanation for why they exist. It also makes it unnecessary to criticize these ideas, again and again, because they depart from factual reality. We should be more sophisticated in the way we evaluate beliefs." David Sloan Wilson
Edge: GOD VS. SCIENCE: A DEBATE BETWEEN NATALIE ANGIER AND DAVID SLOAN WILSON
Amazon.com: Why Jesus Would Never, Ever Vote Republican (9781419697593): Richard John Siviur: Books
http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/
Taming the Savage Market
Amazon.com: Jesus Was a Liberal: How the Conservative Agenda Is a Rejection of Christ's Teachings (9780965761062): Jerry Wilde: Books
Amazon.com: Jesus Was a Liberal: Reclaiming Christianity for All (9780230614291): Scotty McLennan: Books
Amazon.com: Perfect Freedom: Why Liberal Christianity Might Be the Faith You're Looking For (9781905047185): Brian Mountford: Books
I might argue that for some, religion is USURPED by Government Playing God, because of Flaws in Our Human Nature. Individual Greed is not related to this sickness. To USURP, the Rule of Law must be controlled, which Religion plays very little part in, in the Western World anyway. Islamic Totalitarian Domination, the Exception.
When was the Last Catholic Cathedral Built ?
Seems more like you blame the churches for what you can't get your hands on.
It will be a red letter day in human history when We, The People recognize the competition we have with organized religions for the hearts of the next generation, at least with regards to education.
When it comes to protecting the weak throughout our history, religion, despite some successful examples, has failed pretty miserably... It has been a willing and paid accomplice to brutality for economic gain more than a few times, religion has....
Anyhoo - I digress... Perhaps it is time to let 'public' authority give it a shot?
The same Public Authority thats keeping you medicated and deluded right now?
Honestly?
No. The one we have now kind of sucks. Personally, I think it is a little top-heavy...
But I do prefer the thought of a secular civil government having punitive authority over me and my family over ANY of this planets self-righteous religions.
Religion has been usurped today by Greed, the modern phenomenon that still sees the tragedy in the world and wants a reason why but hasn't either the resources or the empathy to know why. The modern minister in their enormous cathedrals need a way to justify extravagant materialism, for themselves and for some of their flock, they usually find it in Andrew Carnegie hooey.
"With apologies to Natalie, I think there's a kind of a silliness to banging away at religious beliefs for their obvious falsehood, when in fact, if you're an evolutionist, the only way you would want to evaluate these beliefs is to examine what they cause people to do. Do they help people function in their communities? Then this might be an explanation for why they exist. It also makes it unnecessary to criticize these ideas, again and again, because they depart from factual reality. We should be more sophisticated in the way we evaluate beliefs." David Sloan Wilson
Edge: GOD VS. SCIENCE: A DEBATE BETWEEN NATALIE ANGIER AND DAVID SLOAN WILSON
Amazon.com: Why Jesus Would Never, Ever Vote Republican (9781419697593): Richard John Siviur: Books
http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/
Taming the Savage Market
Amazon.com: Jesus Was a Liberal: How the Conservative Agenda Is a Rejection of Christ's Teachings (9780965761062): Jerry Wilde: Books
Amazon.com: Jesus Was a Liberal: Reclaiming Christianity for All (9780230614291): Scotty McLennan: Books
Amazon.com: Perfect Freedom: Why Liberal Christianity Might Be the Faith You're Looking For (9781905047185): Brian Mountford: Books
I might argue that for some, religion is USURPED by Government Playing God, because of Flaws in Our Human Nature. Individual Greed is not related to this sickness. To USURP, the Rule of Law must be controlled, which Religion plays very little part in, in the Western World anyway. Islamic Totalitarian Domination, the Exception.
When was the Last Catholic Cathedral Built ?
Seems more like you blame the churches for what you can't get your hands on.
The only reason Western Civilization is as secular as it is is because of timing. 250 years ago the military authority backing the various governments being tried on by Western Civilization was influenced by religion if not controlled by it.
Perhaps 250 years from now our children will spend their lives reaching for the stars instead of fighting over whose God created them.
It's interesting to watch some Christians get very defensive about their faith.
While I do agree that there are many who do attack it, I don't understand why it would bother anyone who has a strong faith.
It's interesting to watch some Christians get very defensive about their faith.
While I do agree that there are many who do attack it, I don't understand why it would bother anyone who has a strong faith.
