Hutch Starskey
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36 pages and still, no one will admit recent history.
No doubt. They just talk in circles muttering "democrats" and "Reid and Pelosi".
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36 pages and still, no one will admit recent history.
look at there new leader for the run at the white house ...do any of them ever admit they are wrong??? I guess that answers the questionThe failed economy.
The Iraq debacle.
The deficit creating Bush Tax Cuts.
The millions of jobs moved oversea.
The over 40,000 factories closed.
Medical bills becoming the number one cause of bankruptcy.
Not getting Bin Laden.
Republicans were able to use reconciliation three times which shows they controlled the entire government.
Will they ever take any responsibility for what happened on their watch?
Ah yes...the liberal mantra that the Obama Stimulus failed because it wasn't BIG enough! That even though nearly 800 billion was spent that if only we'd spent MORE...THEN we would have created jobs! The reason that the stimulus didn't create more jobs, Hutch is that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi called the shots on where that money would be spent. I love how you pull all these numbers out of your ass about how many more jobs would have been created if only we'd had more school construction...when those "shovel ready" jobs that we did provide money for never materialized. What gives you the idea that allocating more for infrastructure would have done anything more to create jobs with Reid and Pelosi running the show?
Yes it was all Reid and Pelosi. The all powerful Democrats ran a fast one on the congressional Republicans and forced them to not support any stimulus at all while the world economy was in free fall.
Only a progressive would call spending 800 billion not supporting any stimulus at all!
Or just someone who knows what he's talking about. Unlike you.
The congressional GOP has smothered a more rapid economic recovery
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (111th Congress)
It may seem odd to bring up ARRA in the context of obstructionism—after all, ARRA actually passed and really was the largest piece of discretionary fiscal policy stabilization ever to emerge from Congress. But it’s useful to remember that the ARRA passed without one single vote from a GOP Representative, and with only 3 of 41 GOP Senators voting for it (and one of these three—Arlen Specter—was a Democrat within the year, in large part because of this vote).
You're going to have to explain how the same Congressional GOP members that couldn't prevent ObamaCare from being passed...somehow had the ability to "smother" the Obama Stimulus! It's one heck of a talking point, Hutch but when you really think about it...the GOP could threaten to do all kinds of things back in 2008 but the cold hard fact is that they didn't have the power to "smother" anything!
The GOP didn't support the stimulus because it was obvious from the start that it would be used by Obama, Pelosi and Reid to reward Democratic loyalists. There was a ton of pork in that legislation.
Later on, DumBama tried to pass another stimulus bill that the Republicans did stop because they had the leadership to do it. It wasn't much different than the first failure of a stimulus which is why Republicans shot it down.
Are their any left-wingers who take more time to actually learn about a topic, than to simply google something, and read headlines?
Yes it was all Reid and Pelosi. The all powerful Democrats ran a fast one on the congressional Republicans and forced them to not support any stimulus at all while the world economy was in free fall.
Only a progressive would call spending 800 billion not supporting any stimulus at all!
Or just someone who knows what he's talking about. Unlike you.
The congressional GOP has smothered a more rapid economic recovery
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (111th Congress)
It may seem odd to bring up ARRA in the context of obstructionism—after all, ARRA actually passed and really was the largest piece of discretionary fiscal policy stabilization ever to emerge from Congress. But it’s useful to remember that the ARRA passed without one single vote from a GOP Representative, and with only 3 of 41 GOP Senators voting for it (and one of these three—Arlen Specter—was a Democrat within the year, in large part because of this vote).
You're going to have to explain how the same Congressional GOP members that couldn't prevent ObamaCare from being passed...somehow had the ability to "smother" the Obama Stimulus! It's one heck of a talking point, Hutch but when you really think about it...the GOP could threaten to do all kinds of things back in 2008 but the cold hard fact is that they didn't have the power to "smother" anything!
The GOP didn't support the stimulus because it was obvious from the start that it would be used by Obama, Pelosi and Reid to reward Democratic loyalists. There was a ton of pork in that legislation.
Later on, DumBama tried to pass another stimulus bill that the Republicans did stop because they had the leadership to do it. It wasn't much different than the first failure of a stimulus which is why Republicans shot it down.
So what did the Repubs do to help correct the meltdown of the world economy?
I'll help, they did nothing but criticize. They were against every measure taken or proposed while offering nothing.
36 pages and still, no one will admit recent history.
Those were all bullshit bills filled with deregulation, ridiculous spending cuts and tax breaks. Basically all nonstarters. They were never intended to do anything except make them look busy.Only a progressive would call spending 800 billion not supporting any stimulus at all!
Or just someone who knows what he's talking about. Unlike you.
The congressional GOP has smothered a more rapid economic recovery
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (111th Congress)
It may seem odd to bring up ARRA in the context of obstructionism—after all, ARRA actually passed and really was the largest piece of discretionary fiscal policy stabilization ever to emerge from Congress. But it’s useful to remember that the ARRA passed without one single vote from a GOP Representative, and with only 3 of 41 GOP Senators voting for it (and one of these three—Arlen Specter—was a Democrat within the year, in large part because of this vote).
You're going to have to explain how the same Congressional GOP members that couldn't prevent ObamaCare from being passed...somehow had the ability to "smother" the Obama Stimulus! It's one heck of a talking point, Hutch but when you really think about it...the GOP could threaten to do all kinds of things back in 2008 but the cold hard fact is that they didn't have the power to "smother" anything!
The GOP didn't support the stimulus because it was obvious from the start that it would be used by Obama, Pelosi and Reid to reward Democratic loyalists. There was a ton of pork in that legislation.
Later on, DumBama tried to pass another stimulus bill that the Republicans did stop because they had the leadership to do it. It wasn't much different than the first failure of a stimulus which is why Republicans shot it down.
So what did the Repubs do to help correct the meltdown of the world economy?
I'll help, they did nothing but criticize. They were against every measure taken or proposed while offering nothing.
So when the GOP took control of the House, Hutch and started sending legislation over to the Senate? What happened to that legislation? Did most of it end up sitting on Harry Reid's desk? The truth is...Reid wouldn't even bring GOP House legislation to the floor for discussion let alone a vote! Yet you criticize the GOP for not helping?
Those were all bullshit bills filled with deregulation, ridiculous spending cuts and tax breaks. Basically all nonstarters. They were never intended to do anything except make them look busy.Or just someone who knows what he's talking about. Unlike you.
The congressional GOP has smothered a more rapid economic recovery
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (111th Congress)
It may seem odd to bring up ARRA in the context of obstructionism—after all, ARRA actually passed and really was the largest piece of discretionary fiscal policy stabilization ever to emerge from Congress. But it’s useful to remember that the ARRA passed without one single vote from a GOP Representative, and with only 3 of 41 GOP Senators voting for it (and one of these three—Arlen Specter—was a Democrat within the year, in large part because of this vote).
You're going to have to explain how the same Congressional GOP members that couldn't prevent ObamaCare from being passed...somehow had the ability to "smother" the Obama Stimulus! It's one heck of a talking point, Hutch but when you really think about it...the GOP could threaten to do all kinds of things back in 2008 but the cold hard fact is that they didn't have the power to "smother" anything!
The GOP didn't support the stimulus because it was obvious from the start that it would be used by Obama, Pelosi and Reid to reward Democratic loyalists. There was a ton of pork in that legislation.
Later on, DumBama tried to pass another stimulus bill that the Republicans did stop because they had the leadership to do it. It wasn't much different than the first failure of a stimulus which is why Republicans shot it down.
So what did the Repubs do to help correct the meltdown of the world economy?
I'll help, they did nothing but criticize. They were against every measure taken or proposed while offering nothing.
So when the GOP took control of the House, Hutch and started sending legislation over to the Senate? What happened to that legislation? Did most of it end up sitting on Harry Reid's desk? The truth is...Reid wouldn't even bring GOP House legislation to the floor for discussion let alone a vote! Yet you criticize the GOP for not helping?
The better question about all of those " jobs bills" is why the Republican congress has yet to revisit any of them. After all, if they were as good as you think, then it should be a no-brainer.
Examples of some of the " jobs bills".
The 27 Republican Bills That Aren't About Jobs | Media Matters Action Network
Those were all bullshit bills filled with deregulation, ridiculous spending cuts and tax breaks. Basically all nonstarters. They were never intended to do anything except make them look busy.Or just someone who knows what he's talking about. Unlike you.
The congressional GOP has smothered a more rapid economic recovery
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (111th Congress)
It may seem odd to bring up ARRA in the context of obstructionism—after all, ARRA actually passed and really was the largest piece of discretionary fiscal policy stabilization ever to emerge from Congress. But it’s useful to remember that the ARRA passed without one single vote from a GOP Representative, and with only 3 of 41 GOP Senators voting for it (and one of these three—Arlen Specter—was a Democrat within the year, in large part because of this vote).
You're going to have to explain how the same Congressional GOP members that couldn't prevent ObamaCare from being passed...somehow had the ability to "smother" the Obama Stimulus! It's one heck of a talking point, Hutch but when you really think about it...the GOP could threaten to do all kinds of things back in 2008 but the cold hard fact is that they didn't have the power to "smother" anything!
The GOP didn't support the stimulus because it was obvious from the start that it would be used by Obama, Pelosi and Reid to reward Democratic loyalists. There was a ton of pork in that legislation.
Later on, DumBama tried to pass another stimulus bill that the Republicans did stop because they had the leadership to do it. It wasn't much different than the first failure of a stimulus which is why Republicans shot it down.
So what did the Repubs do to help correct the meltdown of the world economy?
I'll help, they did nothing but criticize. They were against every measure taken or proposed while offering nothing.
So when the GOP took control of the House, Hutch and started sending legislation over to the Senate? What happened to that legislation? Did most of it end up sitting on Harry Reid's desk? The truth is...Reid wouldn't even bring GOP House legislation to the floor for discussion let alone a vote! Yet you criticize the GOP for not helping?
The better question about all of those " jobs bills" is why the Republican congress has yet to revisit any of them. After all, if they were as good as you think, then it should be a no-brainer.
Examples of some of the " jobs bills".
The 27 Republican Bills That Aren't About Jobs | Media Matters Action Network
Yes it was all Reid and Pelosi. The all powerful Democrats ran a fast one on the congressional Republicans and forced them to not support any stimulus at all while the world economy was in free fall.
Only a progressive would call spending 800 billion not supporting any stimulus at all!
Or just someone who knows what he's talking about. Unlike you.
The congressional GOP has smothered a more rapid economic recovery
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (111th Congress)
It may seem odd to bring up ARRA in the context of obstructionism—after all, ARRA actually passed and really was the largest piece of discretionary fiscal policy stabilization ever to emerge from Congress. But it’s useful to remember that the ARRA passed without one single vote from a GOP Representative, and with only 3 of 41 GOP Senators voting for it (and one of these three—Arlen Specter—was a Democrat within the year, in large part because of this vote).
You're going to have to explain how the same Congressional GOP members that couldn't prevent ObamaCare from being passed...somehow had the ability to "smother" the Obama Stimulus! It's one heck of a talking point, Hutch but when you really think about it...the GOP could threaten to do all kinds of things back in 2008 but the cold hard fact is that they didn't have the power to "smother" anything!
The GOP didn't support the stimulus because it was obvious from the start that it would be used by Obama, Pelosi and Reid to reward Democratic loyalists. There was a ton of pork in that legislation.
Later on, DumBama tried to pass another stimulus bill that the Republicans did stop because they had the leadership to do it. It wasn't much different than the first failure of a stimulus which is why Republicans shot it down.
So what did the Repubs do to help correct the meltdown of the world economy?
I'll help, they did nothing but criticize. They were against every measure taken or proposed while offering nothing.
Those were all bullshit bills filled with deregulation, ridiculous spending cuts and tax breaks. Basically all nonstarters. They were never intended to do anything except make them look busy.You're going to have to explain how the same Congressional GOP members that couldn't prevent ObamaCare from being passed...somehow had the ability to "smother" the Obama Stimulus! It's one heck of a talking point, Hutch but when you really think about it...the GOP could threaten to do all kinds of things back in 2008 but the cold hard fact is that they didn't have the power to "smother" anything!
The GOP didn't support the stimulus because it was obvious from the start that it would be used by Obama, Pelosi and Reid to reward Democratic loyalists. There was a ton of pork in that legislation.
Later on, DumBama tried to pass another stimulus bill that the Republicans did stop because they had the leadership to do it. It wasn't much different than the first failure of a stimulus which is why Republicans shot it down.
So what did the Repubs do to help correct the meltdown of the world economy?
I'll help, they did nothing but criticize. They were against every measure taken or proposed while offering nothing.
So when the GOP took control of the House, Hutch and started sending legislation over to the Senate? What happened to that legislation? Did most of it end up sitting on Harry Reid's desk? The truth is...Reid wouldn't even bring GOP House legislation to the floor for discussion let alone a vote! Yet you criticize the GOP for not helping?
The better question about all of those " jobs bills" is why the Republican congress has yet to revisit any of them. After all, if they were as good as you think, then it should be a no-brainer.
Examples of some of the " jobs bills".
The 27 Republican Bills That Aren't About Jobs | Media Matters Action Network
"bullshit bills filed with deregulation" BECAUSE:
U.S. federal government regulations cost an estimated $2.028 trillion in 2012 (in 2014 dollars), an amount equal to 12 percent of GDP. Regulatory costs are distributed across major business types and among firms of different sizes; the findings of this report indicate that compliance costs fall disproportionately on small businesses. Table 1 summarizes the incidence of costs by firm size based on aggregate data for all sectors of the U.S. economy.
Considering all federal regulations, all sectors of the U.S. economy and all firm sizes, federal regulations cost just less than $10,000 per employee per year in 2012 (in 2014 dollars).
http://www.nam.org/Data-and-Reports/Cost-of-Federal-Regulations/Federal-Regulation-Full-Study.pdf
Only a progressive would call spending 800 billion not supporting any stimulus at all!
Or just someone who knows what he's talking about. Unlike you.
The congressional GOP has smothered a more rapid economic recovery
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (111th Congress)
It may seem odd to bring up ARRA in the context of obstructionism—after all, ARRA actually passed and really was the largest piece of discretionary fiscal policy stabilization ever to emerge from Congress. But it’s useful to remember that the ARRA passed without one single vote from a GOP Representative, and with only 3 of 41 GOP Senators voting for it (and one of these three—Arlen Specter—was a Democrat within the year, in large part because of this vote).
You're going to have to explain how the same Congressional GOP members that couldn't prevent ObamaCare from being passed...somehow had the ability to "smother" the Obama Stimulus! It's one heck of a talking point, Hutch but when you really think about it...the GOP could threaten to do all kinds of things back in 2008 but the cold hard fact is that they didn't have the power to "smother" anything!
The GOP didn't support the stimulus because it was obvious from the start that it would be used by Obama, Pelosi and Reid to reward Democratic loyalists. There was a ton of pork in that legislation.
Later on, DumBama tried to pass another stimulus bill that the Republicans did stop because they had the leadership to do it. It wasn't much different than the first failure of a stimulus which is why Republicans shot it down.
So what did the Repubs do to help correct the meltdown of the world economy?
I'll help, they did nothing but criticize. They were against every measure taken or proposed while offering nothing.
The Republicans were never in charge of the world economy. What they are in charge of is creating laws, taxing and spending.
Obama knew he would never get a so-called stimulus bill backed by the Republicans. It had nothing to do with jobs anyway, it had to do with politics. His plan was for Republicans TO shoot down his idea, and then he could shift the blame of the economy to them like Democrats so often do.
DumBama has never ran a hotdog stand in his life. He wouldn't know how to run a baseball card collection. If he was soooooo concerned about business, he wouldn't have burdened them with Commie Care. He wouldn't have burdened them with more IRS reporting and keeping track of medical expenditures for their employees. He wouldn't have raised their taxes.
But if you really believe DumBama was concerned about business, can you tell me one major positive thing he's done for them?
"bullshit bills filed with deregulation" results GWB Versus Obama...
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Red Tape Rising: Six Years of Escalating Regulation Under Obama
Those were all bullshit bills filled with deregulation, ridiculous spending cuts and tax breaks. Basically all nonstarters. They were never intended to do anything except make them look busy.You're going to have to explain how the same Congressional GOP members that couldn't prevent ObamaCare from being passed...somehow had the ability to "smother" the Obama Stimulus! It's one heck of a talking point, Hutch but when you really think about it...the GOP could threaten to do all kinds of things back in 2008 but the cold hard fact is that they didn't have the power to "smother" anything!
The GOP didn't support the stimulus because it was obvious from the start that it would be used by Obama, Pelosi and Reid to reward Democratic loyalists. There was a ton of pork in that legislation.
Later on, DumBama tried to pass another stimulus bill that the Republicans did stop because they had the leadership to do it. It wasn't much different than the first failure of a stimulus which is why Republicans shot it down.
So what did the Repubs do to help correct the meltdown of the world economy?
I'll help, they did nothing but criticize. They were against every measure taken or proposed while offering nothing.
So when the GOP took control of the House, Hutch and started sending legislation over to the Senate? What happened to that legislation? Did most of it end up sitting on Harry Reid's desk? The truth is...Reid wouldn't even bring GOP House legislation to the floor for discussion let alone a vote! Yet you criticize the GOP for not helping?
The better question about all of those " jobs bills" is why the Republican congress has yet to revisit any of them. After all, if they were as good as you think, then it should be a no-brainer.
Examples of some of the " jobs bills".
The 27 Republican Bills That Aren't About Jobs | Media Matters Action Network
So if they were "nonstarters", as you claim, Hutch? Why didn't Harry Reid bring them to the Senate floor and expose them as such? Why would you table bills that were "bullshit" and not even let them come to the floor? If they really WERE bullshit bills then an astute political leader like Harry Reid should have JUMPED at the opportunity to have Republicans on the record supporting them! If they really WERE bills that wouldn't have helped the economy then what was Reid afraid of?
The answer to that is really rather simple...
Harry Reid didn't want any of those bills coming to the floor of the Senate for a vote...because he didn't want any of his fellow Democrats to be on the record voting down deregulation, spending cuts and tax breaks before they ran for reelection. Even worse...he didn't want to risk moderate Democrats voting FOR those bills in an effort to keep their seats in a future election. And for damn sure Barack Obama didn't want to be on the record vetoing those bills!
Just as a suggestion, Hutch? If you need to use "Media Matters" as your source? You don't have much of an argument...do you?
Are their any left-wingers who take more time to actually learn about a topic, than to simply google something, and read headlines?
Know what you mean. It takes a lot of reading to wade through the true articles to find some bullshit right wing blog that you got your opinion from.
It 's work to support lies and bullshit. Back to work for you.
LMAO.
"bullshit bills filed with deregulation" results GWB Versus Obama...
View attachment 69409
Red Tape Rising: Six Years of Escalating Regulation Under Obama
Yes, regulations are just crippling the ability of American businesses to earn a profit.
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