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Nope. This current crisis the Catholic church is dealing with is a great example. Should these pervert priests be let off the hook for raping children because it happened 40 years ago? Do you support these perverts because the claims were not immediately reported?Why should it be reported immediately?What ever happened to:
"All is fair in love and war"?
Or does that apply only to women?
Um....attempted forcible rape isn't 'fair', Rich.
Attempted rape is and has always been a crime. It should be reported to the police immediately.
Like every other crime...to preserve evidence including peoples memories - and to prevent the perpetrator from committing the same crime against some else.
Waiting 40 years then declaring a crime has been committed is disingenuine.
"Oh officer..my house was broken into and all my property stolen...40 years ago"!
She'd never met him before, except to see him around and know who he was. She never saw him again. It had nothing to do with dating, even.What ever happened to:
"All is fair in love and war"?
Or does that apply only to women?
Oops...I forgot....
In the age of the femo-Nazis, people don't "make love" anymore...now they "have sex"....
So how about:
"All is fair in sex and war"!
-------------------------------------------- but Penny is correct , any incident should be reported immediately to the cops and then these weak adult women would be doing things properly .I do believe from now on women should report any abuse right away to the police and go to a hospital and or if at work report it right away, but it can mean being fired, but get an attorney and sue.
Yeah. I agree. Waiting three decades to spin a story is pretty bad.
She passed a polygraph...and first relayed the account in 2012 to her therapist.
That takes a lot of polish off the 'spin a story' narrative.
Sorry but I’m not buying it.
Most rapes go unreported. Many out of shame or fear they won't be believed or attacked.
Even with Ford's account being from 2012 with therapist notes backing it, even with one of the people she cites as being in the room admitting to binge drinking, blackouts, holes in his memories, and trying to hookup with drunk girls, even with Ford passing a lie detector test administered by a former FBI agent....
She's still attacked and not believed.
Where, oh-where, would women get the idea that they wouldn't be believed or attacked if they come forward?
I do believe from now on women should report any abuse right away to the police and go to a hospital and or if at work report it right away, but it can mean being fired, but get an attorney and sue.
Yeah. I agree. Waiting three decades to spin a story is pretty bad.
In those days women didn't say anything esp to ones parents. They kept it hush hush.
It seems to be turning into a full blown fad, and frankly, they could find down the road that such a climate affects their employment possibilities.
I mean, if I were hiring in the current climate, I would be tres-reluctant to hire women for any top positions, particularly those working closely with myself.
Just a thought, ladies.
I find the fact that her witness instead of denying the incident occurred claimed he didnt recall the incident. Thats typically done to limit legal exposure.I don't see a FBI giving a Poly back then for a supposed rape. Four people as stated in the prior report, and does not recall the address makes the whole story strange. This has got to be a blocking story for the Mid terms.-------------------------------------------- but Penny is correct , any incident should be reported immediately to the cops and then these weak adult women would be doing things properly .Sorry but I’m not buying it.
Most rapes go unreported. Many out of shame or fear they won't be believed or attacked.
Even with Ford's account being from 2012 with therapist notes backing it, even with one of the people she cites as being in the room admitting to binge drinking, blackouts, holes in his memories, and trying to hookup with drunk girls, even with Ford passing a lie detector test administered by a former FBI agent....
She's still attacked and not believed.
Where, oh-where, would women get the idea that they wouldn't be believed or attacked if they come forward?
Yeah, Marc Judge was *very* careful with his replies. He didn't claim it didn't happen. Instead he insists he had 'no recollection'. Those exact words, repeatedly.
This from a man who admits that at the very kinds of highschool parties that Ford alleges she was attacked at, Judge drank so much that he blacked out and had huge holes in his memory.
Nope. This current crisis the Catholic church is dealing with is a great example. Should these pervert priests be let off the hook for raping children because it happened 40 years ago? Do you support these perverts because the claims were not immediately reported?Why should it be reported immediately?What ever happened to:
"All is fair in love and war"?
Or does that apply only to women?
Um....attempted forcible rape isn't 'fair', Rich.
Attempted rape is and has always been a crime. It should be reported to the police immediately.
Like every other crime...to preserve evidence including peoples memories - and to prevent the perpetrator from committing the same crime against some else.
Waiting 40 years then declaring a crime has been committed is disingenuine.
"Oh officer..my house was broken into and all my property stolen...40 years ago"!
Ah so your thing is that women should never mention they were attacked unless they can prove it in court?I find the fact that her witness instead of denying the incident occurred claimed he didnt recall the incident. Thats typically done to limit legal exposure.I don't see a FBI giving a Poly back then for a supposed rape. Four people as stated in the prior report, and does not recall the address makes the whole story strange. This has got to be a blocking story for the Mid terms.-------------------------------------------- but Penny is correct , any incident should be reported immediately to the cops and then these weak adult women would be doing things properly .
Most rapes go unreported. Many out of shame or fear they won't be believed or attacked.
Even with Ford's account being from 2012 with therapist notes backing it, even with one of the people she cites as being in the room admitting to binge drinking, blackouts, holes in his memories, and trying to hookup with drunk girls, even with Ford passing a lie detector test administered by a former FBI agent....
She's still attacked and not believed.
Where, oh-where, would women get the idea that they wouldn't be believed or attacked if they come forward?
Yeah, Marc Judge was *very* careful with his replies. He didn't claim it didn't happen. Instead he insists he had 'no recollection'. Those exact words, repeatedly.
This from a man who admits that at the very kinds of highschool parties that Ford alleges she was attacked at, Judge drank so much that he blacked out and had huge holes in his memory.
I went to many High School parties as a kid and never attacked anyone. However, someone could come out now 35 years later say I did and there's little recourse I have other than to say I didn't.
Seems fair right?
------------------------------------- my advice to Men , especially Young White men would be to just stay away from women as much as they can Penny . Its easy , VP Mike Pence does it .Men should really think twice about sexually assaulting women. Why don't we see that being said instead?It seems to be turning into a full blown fad, and frankly, they could find down the road that such a climate affects their employment possibilities.
I mean, if I were hiring in the current climate, I would be tres-reluctant to hire women for any top positions, particularly those working closely with myself.
Just a thought, ladies.
Well men should not even think about it as far as I'm concerned.
They have had the accusations since july. So if the democrats could've stopped his nomination. Before now, we would know nothing about this. I call bullshit.But we have 65 women who disagree.Eye witness testimony certainly is.
Indeed. Who is her eyewitness?
It doesn't if you're nice to 65 women. You still don't get a free pass on attempted forcible rape with *anyone*.
Ford asked to remain confidential. Feinstein honored her request, didn't release her name publicly and instead turned over the letter to the FBI.
And passing a polygraph does add weight to her claims.
Ah so your thing is that women should never mention they were attacked unless they can prove it in court?I find the fact that her witness instead of denying the incident occurred claimed he didnt recall the incident. Thats typically done to limit legal exposure.I don't see a FBI giving a Poly back then for a supposed rape. Four people as stated in the prior report, and does not recall the address makes the whole story strange. This has got to be a blocking story for the Mid terms.Most rapes go unreported. Many out of shame or fear they won't be believed or attacked.
Even with Ford's account being from 2012 with therapist notes backing it, even with one of the people she cites as being in the room admitting to binge drinking, blackouts, holes in his memories, and trying to hookup with drunk girls, even with Ford passing a lie detector test administered by a former FBI agent....
She's still attacked and not believed.
Where, oh-where, would women get the idea that they wouldn't be believed or attacked if they come forward?
Yeah, Marc Judge was *very* careful with his replies. He didn't claim it didn't happen. Instead he insists he had 'no recollection'. Those exact words, repeatedly.
This from a man who admits that at the very kinds of highschool parties that Ford alleges she was attacked at, Judge drank so much that he blacked out and had huge holes in his memory.
I went to many High School parties as a kid and never attacked anyone. However, someone could come out now 35 years later say I did and there's little recourse I have other than to say I didn't.
Seems fair right?
I dont think there should be a statue of limitations on crimes that involve deep emotional stress or PTSD. Not allowing the victims to come to grips with their experience before reporting it is wrong.Nope. This current crisis the Catholic church is dealing with is a great example. Should these pervert priests be let off the hook for raping children because it happened 40 years ago? Do you support these perverts because the claims were not immediately reported?Why should it be reported immediately?Um....attempted forcible rape isn't 'fair', Rich.
Attempted rape is and has always been a crime. It should be reported to the police immediately.
Like every other crime...to preserve evidence including peoples memories - and to prevent the perpetrator from committing the same crime against some else.
Waiting 40 years then declaring a crime has been committed is disingenuine.
"Oh officer..my house was broken into and all my property stolen...40 years ago"!
They can't defend themselves, this came up because they want to be able to sue till 50 years of age, today this is nonsense, they should come forward right away or forever deal with it. Same with women today.
I tend to believe her. The actions of her witness is more telling than anything she has claimed.Ah so your thing is that women should never mention they were attacked unless they can prove it in court?I find the fact that her witness instead of denying the incident occurred claimed he didnt recall the incident. Thats typically done to limit legal exposure.I don't see a FBI giving a Poly back then for a supposed rape. Four people as stated in the prior report, and does not recall the address makes the whole story strange. This has got to be a blocking story for the Mid terms.
Yeah, Marc Judge was *very* careful with his replies. He didn't claim it didn't happen. Instead he insists he had 'no recollection'. Those exact words, repeatedly.
This from a man who admits that at the very kinds of highschool parties that Ford alleges she was attacked at, Judge drank so much that he blacked out and had huge holes in his memory.
I went to many High School parties as a kid and never attacked anyone. However, someone could come out now 35 years later say I did and there's little recourse I have other than to say I didn't.
Seems fair right?
Not at all. I'm just saying anyone can claim anything. It sure doesn't make it true.
Personally, I don't believe her. You are entitled to believe her.
Nobody will ever know, probably never happened.They have had the accusations since july. So if the democrats could've stopped his nomination. Before now, we would know nothing about this. I call bullshit.But we have 65 women who disagree.Indeed. Who is her eyewitness?
It doesn't if you're nice to 65 women. You still don't get a free pass on attempted forcible rape with *anyone*.
Ford asked to remain confidential. Feinstein honored her request, didn't release her name publicly and instead turned over the letter to the FBI.
And passing a polygraph does add weight to her claims.
Nah...
Not buying into the polygraph at all. Those can be soft-shoe'd.
When was the polygraph administered? Who gave the polygraph? What questions were asked? Who interpreted the results?
Ah so your thing is that women should never mention they were attacked unless they can prove it in court?I find the fact that her witness instead of denying the incident occurred claimed he didnt recall the incident. Thats typically done to limit legal exposure.I don't see a FBI giving a Poly back then for a supposed rape. Four people as stated in the prior report, and does not recall the address makes the whole story strange. This has got to be a blocking story for the Mid terms.
Yeah, Marc Judge was *very* careful with his replies. He didn't claim it didn't happen. Instead he insists he had 'no recollection'. Those exact words, repeatedly.
This from a man who admits that at the very kinds of highschool parties that Ford alleges she was attacked at, Judge drank so much that he blacked out and had huge holes in his memory.
I went to many High School parties as a kid and never attacked anyone. However, someone could come out now 35 years later say I did and there's little recourse I have other than to say I didn't.
Seems fair right?
Not at all. I'm just saying anyone can claim anything. It sure doesn't make it true.
Personally, I don't believe her. You are entitled to believe her.
I dont think there should be a statue of limitations on crimes that involve deep emotional stress or PTSD. Not allowing the victims to come to grips with their experience before reporting it is wrong.Nope. This current crisis the Catholic church is dealing with is a great example. Should these pervert priests be let off the hook for raping children because it happened 40 years ago? Do you support these perverts because the claims were not immediately reported?Why should it be reported immediately?Attempted rape is and has always been a crime. It should be reported to the police immediately.
Like every other crime...to preserve evidence including peoples memories - and to prevent the perpetrator from committing the same crime against some else.
Waiting 40 years then declaring a crime has been committed is disingenuine.
"Oh officer..my house was broken into and all my property stolen...40 years ago"!
They can't defend themselves, this came up because they want to be able to sue till 50 years of age, today this is nonsense, they should come forward right away or forever deal with it. Same with women today.
Nobody will ever know, probably never happened.They have had the accusations since july. So if the democrats could've stopped his nomination. Before now, we would know nothing about this. I call bullshit.But we have 65 women who disagree.
It doesn't if you're nice to 65 women. You still don't get a free pass on attempted forcible rape with *anyone*.
Ford asked to remain confidential. Feinstein honored her request, didn't release her name publicly and instead turned over the letter to the FBI.
And passing a polygraph does add weight to her claims.
Nah...
Not buying into the polygraph at all. Those can be soft-shoe'd.
When was the polygraph administered? Who gave the polygraph? What questions were asked? Who interpreted the results?
Nope. This current crisis the Catholic church is dealing with is a great example. Should these pervert priests be let off the hook for raping children because it happened 40 years ago? Do you support these perverts because the claims were not immediately reported?Why should it be reported immediately?What ever happened to:
"All is fair in love and war"?
Or does that apply only to women?
Um....attempted forcible rape isn't 'fair', Rich.
Attempted rape is and has always been a crime. It should be reported to the police immediately.
Like every other crime...to preserve evidence including peoples memories - and to prevent the perpetrator from committing the same crime against some else.
Waiting 40 years then declaring a crime has been committed is disingenuine.
"Oh officer..my house was broken into and all my property stolen...40 years ago"!
Nobody will ever know, probably never happened.They have had the accusations since july. So if the democrats could've stopped his nomination. Before now, we would know nothing about this. I call bullshit.But we have 65 women who disagree.
It doesn't if you're nice to 65 women. You still don't get a free pass on attempted forcible rape with *anyone*.
Ford asked to remain confidential. Feinstein honored her request, didn't release her name publicly and instead turned over the letter to the FBI.
And passing a polygraph does add weight to her claims.
Nah...
Not buying into the polygraph at all. Those can be soft-shoe'd.
When was the polygraph administered? Who gave the polygraph? What questions were asked? Who interpreted the results?
