One can blame the human scumbag for a lot of things, but foremost TOTAL INACTIVITY in 4 years. Couldn't even get a shitty fence done.Trump
And no he didn't have a part in destroying and dismantling the nuke energy program.
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One can blame the human scumbag for a lot of things, but foremost TOTAL INACTIVITY in 4 years. Couldn't even get a shitty fence done.Trump
See my post #71 - last paragraph - also fits you perfectlyAt the very least, motorists ought to be allowed to run over such “protesters” without facing any legal consequences.
On the other hand, I strongly support the 2nd Amendment as well as the entire Bill of Rights and would feel hypocritical infringing on the 1st Amendment with excessive punishments for exercising free speech rights.
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Finally, I could not support a mandatory 3 year, felony charge for someone peacefully and harmlessly expressing their 1st Amendment rights.
Vandalism and obstructing traffic, however, are separate crimes but punishment should not be excessive if connected to a genuine protest.
Blocking public byways, effectively holding uninvolved third-parties prisoner against their will by preventing them from going where they need to go, is not free speech, and is not a “right” that is in any way supported or implied by the First Amendment.
It is criminal behavior, and needs to be treated as such.
There is no rational basis for excusing such criminal behavior that harms others, as “a genuine protest”.
I did describe that behavior as "criminal" and only said that their punishment should not be "excessive"; i.e. a Felony with 3 years in prison.
Do you feel that a felony charge and 3 years in prison for obstructing traffic is appropriate.
Maybe it's because I value the Bill of Rights and the freedoms it protects that I would rather be more permissive with freedom of speech than too restrictive.
Yes, absolutely.
Obstructing traffic, effectively holding innocent third parties prisoner against their will, has nothing to do with any rational copncept of “free speech”.
At least we both agree that obstructing traffic is a crime and should be punished.
I feel that the punishment should fit the crime rather than a "one size fits all" type of punishment:
- Were the protestors violent or not
- Did they move when ordered to
- How long did they obstruct traffic etc
Yes. And by law, if they've glued themselves to a road, you should be allowed to drive over them without and legal repercussions.Block a Road, no matter if you leave when told......3 yrs in maximum security
Glue yourself to a Picasso....3 yrs max security
And no bail before trial.
Only if committed on federal property.Block a Road, no matter if you leave when told......3 yrs in maximum security
Glue yourself to a Picasso....3 yrs max security
And no bail before trial.
Don't let the military hear that.The very act of unjustifiably restraining innocent people from being able to go where they need to go, and have every right to go, is an act of violence.
NO. These are state offenses.Block a Road, no matter if you leave when told......3 yrs in maximum security
Glue yourself to a Picasso....3 yrs max security
And no bail before trial.
Just cut out around on the road....Yes. And by law, if they've glued themselves to a road, you should be allowed to drive over them without and legal repercussions.
The very act of unjustifiably restraining innocent people from being able to go where they need to go, and have every right to go, is an act of violence.
And no, I am not one of those morons trying to storm the Capitol, neither do I support such a plain dumb action.
Onto the framework the law presently provides, what do you think a court/judge is presently doing?At least we both agree that obstructing traffic is a crime and should be punished.
I feel that the punishment should fit the crime rather than a "one size fits all" type of punishment:
- Were the protestors violent or not
- Did they move when ordered to
- How long did they obstruct traffic etc
Onto the framework the law presently provides, what do you think a court/judge is presently doing?
A public prosecutor can only lay a charge and demand punishment onto what a law presently beholds/provides. Same goes for the judge, which is "Disturbance of the Peace"
In order to handle such cases more specific - a law needs to be enacted or amended - by whom? yes, Congress via a bill.
Who holds the majority in Congress?
Yes exactly - those who blame and yap about senile Biden, and never tire to talk MAGA crap, and sputter tough talk.
Everyone should/would know that. He was in Washington and got arrested at the airport - so he couldn't join his moron friends.Nor do I. Are you aware that the "leader" of the proud boys just got 22 years in prison for january 6th and he wasn't even in washington DC?
Storming a government building is a serious crime - not to mention a national symbol such as the Capitol.For you to even say that says you thunk an "insurrection" actually happened. And it's NOT just made up democrat bullshit (like russia collusion or global warming).
to discredit an own country, and the own party in such a manner - to me is TREASON towards the USA and treason towards the GOP.