Would you vote for Romney in 2016?

[RKMBrown]

When did the exercise of rights become a zero sum game?

When did we have to take rights from others in order to have them for ourselves?

It started right after the civil war. See the due process clause that gives the States the right to take your life, liberty, and property. That was followed by the 16th and 17th amendments that put the nail in the coffin for liberty.

you just contradicted your earlier posts,

No, I did not.

 

[Ropey]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

He's not a good enough leader. He is far too ready to pander to the ... well almost anyone. He's more of a Rino than Colin Powell was and Powell voted for Obama not Romney either.

And still there's no Republican leader on the horizon, and that's what really matters.

 

[RKMBrown]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

Romney would be a great Democrat Candidate.

 

[Redfish]

I wouldn't vote for him in 2012, and I wouldn't vote for him in 2016.

He lost because not even Republicans trusted him. He was all over the place on the issues. During the primaries he pretended to be a conservative. During the general election he moved back towards the center. Anybody with half a brain knew he meant none of it.

which of obama's campaign statements did he mean? "I want to redistribute the wealth" "57 states" "I will put the healthcare debate on c-span" "corpseman" "the USA is a mean country" "raising the debt is a failure of leadership"

You are all over Romney but you helped elect the biggest fraud in our history------------I think its called hypocrisy.

 

[Redfish]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

He's not a good enough leader. He is far too ready to pander to the ... well almost anyone. He's more of a Rino than Colin Powell was and Powell voted for Obama not Romney either.

And still there's no Republican leader on the horizon, and that's what really matters.

Who do you consider a "leader" on the dem side?

 

[aaronleland]

which of obama's campaign statements did he mean? "I want to redistribute the wealth" "57 states" "I will put the healthcare debate on c-span" "corpseman" "the USA is a mean country" "raising the debt is a failure of leadership"

You are all over Romney but you helped elect the biggest fraud in our history------------I think its called hypocrisy.

I didn't vote for Obama. Why should I care?

 

[Redfish]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

Romney would be a great Democrat Candidate.

would you vote for him if he ran as a dem?

I don't understand you who call yourselves conservatives and then vote to ensure the victory of far left democrats.

 

[House]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

As I've stated many times, I refuse to support anyone that ships thousands of jobs overseas by electing them to the highest office in the land.

VP? Fine... President? Oh hell no.

I don't hate the man. I'd hire him in a heartbeat to head up my company if I could afford it, but that's because I know that he couldn't ship jobs overseas by heading up a carrier.

 

[RKMBrown]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

Romney would be a great Democrat Candidate.

would you vote for him if he ran as a dem?

I don't understand you who call yourselves conservatives and then vote to ensure the victory of far left democrats.

I vote for the best candidate. If Romney was the best candidate, I'd vote for him. The best conservative, by far, on the ticket was Gary Johnson. I have principles. I will not vote for the 2nd worst candidate because some dumb ass republicans nominated a devout socialist , homophobic, 65+ year old fart, to lead their party. That said, I think Romney would have made a much better Democrat than he did a republican. Matter of fact, I bet if Romney ran as a democrat he would've beaten Obama and Hillary way back in 2008.

 

[thereisnospoon2]

Poll

No....I do not see Romney as a good person for the Office.
I think he is a compromiser who would quickly abandon any conservative principles he may have in order to cut a deal which helps him politically.
This is the main reason why a I think Obama is a poor president. Everything Obama does is for the sole purpose of political gain.
We the People do not need another politician in the White House. A Statesman would be nice.
I realize this is not a realistic goal.

 

[Redfish]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

As I've stated many times, I refuse to support anyone that ships thousands of jobs overseas by electing them to the highest office in the land.

VP? Fine... President? Oh hell no.

I don't hate the man. I'd hire him in a heartbeat to head up my company if I could afford it, but that's because I know that he couldn't ship jobs overseas by heading up a carrier.

Jobs went overseas because of our tax laws. CEOs of corporations are charged with maximizing the return for their shareholders. They all do it. Why do you think there is no longer a textile industry in this country? Taxes and unions. Want american jobs? fix the corporate tax rate and put limits on union lobbying.

 

[Redfish]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

Romney would be a great Democrat Candidate.

would you vote for him if he ran as a dem?

I don't understand you who call yourselves conservatives and then vote to ensure the victory of far left democrats.

I vote for the best candidate. If Romney was the best candidate, I'd vote for him. The best conservative, by far, on the ticket was Gary Johnson.

Johnson was not on the ticket. He didn't have any more chance than Ron Paul.

Would you support Rand Paul?

 

[aaronleland]

I don't understand you who call yourselves conservatives and then vote to ensure the victory of far left democrats.

You call yourself a conservative, and vote for a man who is anything but conservative. Is that the new standard for conservative? The guy with the R after his name?

 

[House]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

As I've stated many times, I refuse to support anyone that ships thousands of jobs overseas by electing them to the highest office in the land.

VP? Fine... President? Oh hell no.

I don't hate the man. I'd hire him in a heartbeat to head up my company if I could afford it, but that's because I know that he couldn't ship jobs overseas by heading up a carrier.

Jobs went overseas because of our tax laws. CEOs of corporations are charged with maximizing the return for their shareholders. They all do it. Why do you think there is no longer a textile industry in this country? Taxes and unions. Want american jobs? fix the corporate tax rate and put limits on union lobbying.

Since we're rehashing old arguments, if Romney wanted my vote he'd have been proactive about getting those changes made instead of jumping tons of corporations overseas.

Then at least he'd have a history of attempting to save jobs instead of throwing the working class under the bus for a buck.

Fuck him up the ass with an AIDS infested dildo.

 

[Ropey]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

He's not a good enough leader. He is far too ready to pander to the ... well almost anyone. He's more of a Rino than Colin Powell was and Powell voted for Obama not Romney either.

And still there's no Republican leader on the horizon, and that's what really matters.

Who do you consider a "leader" on the dem side?

So, you have no one to put up and you need one from the Democrat side so that you can attack that choice rather than look at your very flimsy pickings at the moment.

Hillary has been a first lady for two terms and the Secretary of State for Obama's first term. She realized that a second term as SOS would likely be detrimental to her chances at a Presidency since she was going to edge away from President Obama's stances and having some space between the fails and her last years in the Obama second term was smart.

Now she knows all the big boys in the Foreign policy. No one knows them like she does and as well, she knows their wives after her years with Bill who took her everywhere. (wonder why?)

I'd rather see a strong Republican president take both houses and deal with the health taxation of Obama and debt restructuring of Clinton.

What's likely to happen? Who knows, but at this time, the Democrats are looking like a slide when the Republicans can only go after the Democrats and not bring forth a Republican leader to take them on.

Ted Cruz?

 

[Redfish]

Poll

No....I do not see Romney as a good person for the Office.
I think he is a compromiser who would quickly abandon any conservative principles he may have in order to cut a deal which helps him politically.
This is the main reason why a I think Obama is a poor president. Everything Obama does is for the sole purpose of political gain.
We the People do not need another politician in the White House. A Statesman would be nice.
I realize this is not a realistic goal.

I'll give you a pass on that since you are a newby. Kennedy and Reagan are turning over in their graves at what their parties have become.

 

[Redfish]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

As I've stated many times, I refuse to support anyone that ships thousands of jobs overseas by electing them to the highest office in the land.

VP? Fine... President? Oh hell no.

I don't hate the man. I'd hire him in a heartbeat to head up my company if I could afford it, but that's because I know that he couldn't ship jobs overseas by heading up a carrier.

Jobs went overseas because of our tax laws. CEOs of corporations are charged with maximizing the return for their shareholders. They all do it. Why do you think there is no longer a textile industry in this country? Taxes and unions. Want american jobs? fix the corporate tax rate and put limits on union lobbying.

Since we're rehashing old arguments, if Romney wanted my vote he'd have been proactive about getting those changes made instead of jumping tons of corporations overseas.

Then at least he'd have a history of attempting to save jobs instead of throwing the working class under the bus for a buck.

Fuck him up the ass with an AIDS infested dildo.

 

[RKMBrown]

Romney will not be running.

I think you are right, but from the poll he would win if the "he's not conservative enough" people voted for him. He would be president today if they had done that in 2012. Thats the point of this thread. The far right elected obama. We need to face that and make sure it doesn't happen in 2016

I'll not only not vote for him, I'll actively campaign against him.

Where does the Romney hate come from? He is a good person, successful in business, loves his family and his country, is honest and maybe too truthful. Is it jealousy of his success? what is it?

Romney would be a great Democrat Candidate.

would you vote for him if he ran as a dem?

I don't understand you who call yourselves conservatives and then vote to ensure the victory of far left democrats.

I vote for the best candidate. If Romney was the best candidate, I'd vote for him. The best conservative, by far, on the ticket was Gary Johnson.

Johnson was not on the ticket. He didn't have any more chance than Ron Paul.

Would you support Rand Paul?

Yes, Johnson was on the ticket, and he got my vote. Ron Paul was not on the ticket this time. I voted for Ron Paul in 2008, because he was much more of a conservative than McCain.

Would I vote for Rand? Maybe, I'd have to do more investigation. I'd definitely vote for Rubio. But again, it would depend on who else was running for the office. I vote the best candidate period.

 

[thereisnospoon2]

"No, proven loser."

Better reason though he's a uber wealthy who has nothing in common with the average American and is likely looking at the Presidency more as a way to accrue even more wealth doing favors for special interests.

I hate Romney and all, but I just don't get that vibe.

He doesn't need the presidency to accrue wealth. Look at his history, it's a fact. The man's King Midas, lol.

Romney would be taking a pay cut to be president.

Base pay is unimportant, it's the perks that are sought after.

Romney was never in it for the money or perks. He has all the money he and his family will ever need.

Said as much a few posts up. Way to only read what you want.

Why is it so hard to believe someone would run for president because he wants to help the country?

Why is it so hard to believe that the Job Exporter in Chief should not be rewarded for his years of unpatriotic work with the top public office in the country?

Romney created far more jobs here than anyone else. Every time a job is exported a higher paying one is created here. You need to bone up on the idea of comparative advantage.

I would like to see your data to back that whopper up.

Mosrt of the so called "exported jobs" neither never existed here in the US or are for the most part entry level call center type jobs.
The laergest problem I see with skilled work is IMPORTING foreign workers to do the jobs that Americans used to do.
For example, Microsoft has a rather large facility here. Many of the technical jobs are held by people from South Asia. Mainly from India and Pakistan.
These people get their degrees in their home countries. Microsoft ( and other firms) then recruit these people to come to the US to fill jobs at roughly half the labor rate of American workers.
An acquaintance of mine actually had to train his replacement! So he had to suffer with the knowledge of realizing he would be out of a job, but in order to get his severance had to train the people that would be taking his and the jobs of others for much lower wages.
That is a slap in the face and a kick to the groin.

 

[thereisnospoon2]

"No, proven loser."

Better reason though he's a uber wealthy who has nothing in common with the average American and is likely looking at the Presidency more as a way to accrue even more wealth doing favors for special interests.

I hate Romney and all, but I just don't get that vibe.

He doesn't need the presidency to accrue wealth. Look at his history, it's a fact. The man's King Midas, lol.

Romney would be taking a pay cut to be president.

Base pay is unimportant, it's the perks that are sought after.

Romney was never in it for the money or perks. He has all the money he and his family will ever need.

Why is it so hard to believe someone would run for president because he wants to help the country?

because the elitist had no interest in "helping the country". he felt he was entitled to it because his father (who was better than him in every possible way didn't get it). he wanted the power. plain and simple.

attaching some sort of altruism to Mitt Romney is laughable. but it would have been nice if he was even half the man his father was in that regard.

Blah blah blah...More non sequiturs.
You're just pissed because he said something politically incorrect, but in reality he was expressing the same thoughts most every taxpayer had in the first place.
You people voted for Obama either out of fear of being called racist if you didn't ( white guilt) or you simply allowed yourself to be suckered in by the (D)