Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

[P@triot]

Bwahahahahaha! It's only February and already Lakhota takes home the award for "Dumbest Thread of 2017". Sweetie...the U.S. Constitution is not an international document. It applies to U.S. citizens only on U.S. land only.

My constitutional rights do not travel with me when I land in France. Likewise, a Mexican coming here does not have a single constitutional right. It applies to U.S. citizens only on U.S. land only.

 

[P@triot]

I'm going to post this one more time since you have a problem reading...

"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

You have a severe reading comprehension problem. I've tried to point out your mistake for you above...

 

[P@triot]

Barack Obama fully supports President Trump's policies to address these criminals:

 

[Bush92]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

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That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

Repeal the 14th Amendment. Radical Republican assholes enacted it after the Civil War. Southern states were forced to ratify.

 

[Unkotare]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

Repeal the 14th Amendment. ...

No

 

[Lakhota]

Bwahahahahaha! It's only February and already Lakhota takes home the award for "Dumbest Thread of 2017". Sweetie...the U.S. Constitution is not an international document. It applies to U.S. citizens only on U.S. land only.

My constitutional rights do not travel with me when I land in France. Likewise, a Mexican coming here does not have a single constitutional right. It applies to U.S. citizens only on U.S. land only.

Dear Retarded Dumbass: Where did I say it applied to anyone not on American soil? Please read the OP.

 

[federalist50]

I repeat from the OP:

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

I think you are overlooking the key word: "Citizens."

 

[Lakhota]

I repeat from the OP:

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

I think you are overlooking the key word: "Citizens."

Really? I think you're overlooking "nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

 

[Boss]

I'm going to post this one more time since you have a problem reading...

"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

You're apparently not paying attention to the words not in red here. Now, let's go through it...

Nor shall any state... (you know, like Nebraska, Georgia, Wyoming...) deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process.

So states cannot deprive persons of life, liberty and property unless they give them due process.

Nor deny any person within it's jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

So this does not apply to a Syrian in an airport in Syria. It applies to illegal aliens but the state doesn't prosecute illegal aliens. It also doesn't bestow constitutional rights on illegal aliens, it just says states have to give them due process.

 

[Lakhota]

I'm going to post this one more time since you have a problem reading...

"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

You're apparently not paying attention to the words not in red here. Now, let's go through it...

Nor shall any state... (you know, like Nebraska, Georgia, Wyoming...) deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process.

So states cannot deprive persons of life, liberty and property unless they give them due process.

Nor deny any person within it's jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

So this does not apply to a Syrian in an airport in Syria. It applies to illegal aliens but the state doesn't prosecute illegal aliens. It also doesn't bestow constitutional rights on illegal aliens, it just says states have to give them due process.

Our federal Constitution "says states have to give them due process"...

 

[imawhosure]

I'm going to post this one more time since you have a problem reading...

"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

You're apparently not paying attention to the words not in red here. Now, let's go through it...

Nor shall any state... (you know, like Nebraska, Georgia, Wyoming...) deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process.

So states cannot deprive persons of life, liberty and property unless they give them due process.

Nor deny any person within it's jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

So this does not apply to a Syrian in an airport in Syria. It applies to illegal aliens but the state doesn't prosecute illegal aliens. It also doesn't bestow constitutional rights on illegal aliens, it just says states have to give them due process.

I'm going to post this one more time since you have a problem reading...

"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

You're apparently not paying attention to the words not in red here. Now, let's go through it...

Nor shall any state... (you know, like Nebraska, Georgia, Wyoming...) deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process.

So states cannot deprive persons of life, liberty and property unless they give them due process.

Nor deny any person within it's jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

So this does not apply to a Syrian in an airport in Syria. It applies to illegal aliens but the state doesn't prosecute illegal aliens. It also doesn't bestow constitutional rights on illegal aliens, it just says states have to give them due process.

Our federal Constitution "says states have to give them due process"...

Big L is full of proverbial doo-doo. Read the headlines, illegals have started being deported. The only constitutional rights they have now, are in their own country. The whole narrative of the left is hokey, and to be honest, their votes are now being thrown out the door!

 

[Boss]

Our federal Constitution "says states have to give them due process"...

Yes, the federal Constitution says that states have to give "persons" due process. It doesn't define the limits or parameters of "due process" and so, we have a statutory law which outlines that. Giving illegal aliens due process is not giving them full Constitutional rights. Nowhere does the Constitution say that. It also doesn't say the Federal government has to give aliens not in our country due process or any other rights.

 

[whitehall]

Sure illegal aliens have Constitutional rights just like condemned prisoners and crazy people but certain Constitutional rights can be suspended by the government in the interest of public safety. In other words illegal aliens cannot be shot on sight but they can be arrested if they commit crimes and deported if the government sees fit. Why does this come as a surprise to the left?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I repeat from the OP:

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

Yes, you repeat a passage that specifically states "citizens of the United States"

 

[Lakhota]

I repeat from the OP:

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

Yes, you repeat a passage that specifically states "citizens of the United States"

Duh, you conveniently left out this part from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution: "nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

 

[Lakhota]

Sure illegal aliens have Constitutional rights just like condemned prisoners and crazy people but certain Constitutional rights can be suspended by the government in the interest of public safety. In other words illegal aliens cannot be shot on sight but they can be arrested if they commit crimes and deported if the government sees fit. Why does this come as a surprise to the left?

Gee, that's no surprise to me.

 

[Lakhota]

Our federal Constitution "says states have to give them due process"...

Yes, the federal Constitution says that states have to give "persons" due process. It doesn't define the limits or parameters of "due process" and so, we have a statutory law which outlines that. Giving illegal aliens due process is not giving them full Constitutional rights. Nowhere does the Constitution say that. It also doesn't say the Federal government has to give aliens not in our country due process or any other rights.

Who said the federal Constitution provides illegal aliens "full Constitutional rights"? Also, who's talking about "not in our country" - besides you?

 

[bripat9643]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

Wrong again, asshole. Your critics claim that foreigners not residing on U.S. soil have no Constitutional rights. That point is irrefutable.

 

[bripat9643]

Our federal Constitution "says states have to give them due process"...

Yes, the federal Constitution says that states have to give "persons" due process. It doesn't define the limits or parameters of "due process" and so, we have a statutory law which outlines that. Giving illegal aliens due process is not giving them full Constitutional rights. Nowhere does the Constitution say that. It also doesn't say the Federal government has to give aliens not in our country due process or any other rights.

Who said the federal Constitution provides illegal aliens "full Constitutional rights"? Also, who's talking about "not in our country" - besides you?

All you douche bags are claiming that so-called "refugees" have the right to immigrate here. That's obvious horseshit.

 

[Lakhota]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

Wrong again, asshole. Your critics claim that foreigners not residing on U.S. soil have no Constitutional rights. That point is irrefutable.

Duh, that don't make no sense to me...