Yes..universal background checks for guns do not work...even left wing Joyce Foundation shows this

[Skull Pilot]

There is no reason to ban 8 million of these rifles when less than 5 a year are ever used in a crime....that is irrational and insane....

And we already know, if you get this rifle, you will just move on to the next......

You avoided the question.

If the only thing that makes an assault type rifle an Assault type rifle are cosmetic only, why the fuck do you want one?

why do you want to ban them ?

an AR 15 .223 caliber semiautomatic is not more deadly than a .223 semiautomatic ranch rifle and no matter how many times you say an Ar 15 is more deadly you are FUCKING WRONG

Look, comparing your mini is not what I am talking about. Your Mini should have been banned. I am talking to the assholes that compare it to handguns & bolt action & to knives. Try to keep up.

Each shot would pack the same punch but depending on the model you have, the difference would be whether it had a detachable clip & its capacity.

So what if it has a detachable MAGAZINE?
Almost every semiautomatic rifle does.

and what doe it matter if a law abiding person has a rifle with a detachable magazine? Is the mere ownership of that type of rifle going to turn him into a mass murderer?

and fyi the .223 doesn't pack much of a punch. In fact that round was designed to wound not kill.

But hey you have 4 weapons right now that are more deadly than any rifle be it a semiautomatic, a single shot or a scary black one and those weapons are your hands and feet. Because you probably don't know that more people are killed every single year with hands and feet than are killed by all rifles combined

SO here you are shitting your pants about a black small caliber rifle when every person you see every day is carrying far more deadly weapons

So now you claim the body count at Newtown would have been higher if Lanza had not been armed but attacked with his hands & feet?

Know what scares me, is an armed person who gets a hard-on if his gun is black & has certain cosmetic features.

No you're just scared all the time.

Banning an AR 15 is no different than banning all black cars can you understand that one?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Maybe you should define "assault type weapon" and then tell me how it differs from your average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's.

No semi-auto is an assault weapon

There was a ban Look it up. Become informed.

and you're too fucking stupid to realize the ban was nothing but legislation to make little pantywaists like you feel good

It it did nothing, why did you care?

you just can't understand that it makes no sense whatsoever to ban an AR 15 over some cosmetic doodads while every other type of semiauto is OK?

Those of us with a brain realize it is the first foray into banning all semiautomatic rifles and that is UNACCEPTABLE

There were more banned than the AR-15.

Again, if the ban would just end the cosmetics, why would you care?

and they were banned because of cosmetic features

why do you care if a rifle has a few doodads on it if it's not "more deadly" than a rifle without the doodads?

 

[RealDave]

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Again, if it is just cosmetic features that add nothing to the performance that makes a rifle an assault type rifle, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU GUN NUTS HAVING SUCH A FIT ABOUT HAVING ONE? Are you just a bunch of angry little boys trying to play army?

BECAUSE IT IS FUCKING STUPID TO BAN A RIFLE BECAUSE OF PLASTIC COSMETIC DOODADS

AND FYI I DO NOT OWN AN AR 15 i OWN A RUGER MINI 14 WHICH IS NOT BANNED BUT IS EXACTLY THE SAME IN EVERY FUCKING WAY TO AN AR 15 BUT FOR SOME FUCKING COSMETIC DOODADS BUT YOU ASSHOLES HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK SCARY

So, you are saying the weapons they want to ban only have extra cosmetic features - so why do you care? Do you need those cosmetic features to get it up or something?

So your mini as omitted the first time. Maybe Rugar had an inside guy to make sure it didn't make the list.

Every time to post you make it abundantly clear that you are utterly ignorant about the subject of firearms

Oh no, please don't lecture me again about the use of the word "clip".

I didn't mention clip

You don't know shit about firearms PERIOD

I know this, an assault type rifle with a 150 round clip can kill a lot more people faster than a man with a knife, a man with a handgun, a man with a rifle than is not an automatic or semiautomatic rifle. Evidently, you don't even know that.

 

[Geaux4it]

The Joyce Foundation is as left wing as it gets and it is a gun control group as well....what did they find when they asked actual criminals in jail where they got their guns....guns they are not allowed to buy, own or carry?

The friends and family plan.

Study Finds That Chicago Criminals Get Guns From Friends, Family

A survey conducted by researchers from Duke University and the University of Chicago found that Chicago criminals obtained their firearms almost exclusively from friends and family.

The survey, funded by the Joyce Foundation and set to be published in the October edition of Preventive Medicine, consisted of interviews with 99 inmates at Chicago’s Cook County Jail who had illegally possessed a gun within six months of their incarceration. It found that most criminals only acquired guns from people they knew and trusted.

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The study found that due to fears of encountering undercover police officers attempting sting operations, a large majority of the criminals surveyed would only make illegal gun purchases from people they knew.

"In discussing the underground gun market in their neighborhoods, most respondents emphasized the importance of connections—prior relationships that could create sufficient trust to reassure the seller that the transaction would not create an unacceptable legal risk," the survey says. "

A majority of the primary guns (40 of the 48 for which we have detailed information on the source) were obtained from family, fellow gang members, or other social connections; the fraction is still higher for secondary guns."

"Only 2 of the 70 primary guns (3%) and no secondary guns were reported as purchased directly from a gun store."

The survey also found that criminals preferred handguns by a wide margin. Rifles, shotguns, and firearms that would be classified as "assault weapons" under Illinois law made up a small percentage of the guns criminals reported they had owned.

Additionally, the survey found that criminals kept their firearms for only a short period of time and had little knowledge of firearms.

The researchers noted that the findings may challenge what many believe about how criminals obtain firearms.

"Some of the pathways people are concerned about don’t seem so dominant," Harold Pollack, co-director of the University of Chicago’s Crime Lab and co-author of the survey, told the Chicago Sun-Times.
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"This proves what we have said all along," Alan Gottlieb, the founder of Second Amendment, told the Free Beacon. "Criminals don't go through background checks to acquire a gun. They don’t buy them at gun stores, gun shows, or on the Internet. They get them from family, friends, and fellow gang members. Gun control laws only affect lawful gun owners."

Background checks forced them into illegal activity risking their own family members. The more you force criminals to use illegal sources, the more likely they get caught.

Evidently your solution is just hand out guns to everyone. Its been your & the NRA solution for everything.

No one is "forced" into illegal activities

If a person wants to obtain a gun & can't pass a basckground check, then they are forced to go illegal.

No they are not "forced"

they CHOOSE

see the difference?

The choose top buy a gun. To do so, they are forced to do it illegally because they can't pass a background test.

Get it?

That's what makes them criminals. However, the law is in place which is suppose to force them to make the decision not to break the law. Breaking the law is a choice

-Geaux

 

[RealDave]

You avoided the question.

If the only thing that makes an assault type rifle an Assault type rifle are cosmetic only, why the fuck do you want one?

why do you want to ban them ?

an AR 15 .223 caliber semiautomatic is not more deadly than a .223 semiautomatic ranch rifle and no matter how many times you say an Ar 15 is more deadly you are FUCKING WRONG

Look, comparing your mini is not what I am talking about. Your Mini should have been banned. I am talking to the assholes that compare it to handguns & bolt action & to knives. Try to keep up.

Each shot would pack the same punch but depending on the model you have, the difference would be whether it had a detachable clip & its capacity.

So what if it has a detachable MAGAZINE?
Almost every semiautomatic rifle does.

and what doe it matter if a law abiding person has a rifle with a detachable magazine? Is the mere ownership of that type of rifle going to turn him into a mass murderer?

and fyi the .223 doesn't pack much of a punch. In fact that round was designed to wound not kill.

But hey you have 4 weapons right now that are more deadly than any rifle be it a semiautomatic, a single shot or a scary black one and those weapons are your hands and feet. Because you probably don't know that more people are killed every single year with hands and feet than are killed by all rifles combined

SO here you are shitting your pants about a black small caliber rifle when every person you see every day is carrying far more deadly weapons

So now you claim the body count at Newtown would have been higher if Lanza had not been armed but attacked with his hands & feet?

Know what scares me, is an armed person who gets a hard-on if his gun is black & has certain cosmetic features.

No you're just scared all the time.

Banning an AR 15 is no different than banning all black cars can you understand that one?

Now you are being an ass. You are now telling me you are writhing on the floor in a tantrum much like the spoiled brat in the toy aisle at Walmart because you might not be able to own a black rifle?

 

[Skull Pilot]

BECAUSE IT IS FUCKING STUPID TO BAN A RIFLE BECAUSE OF PLASTIC COSMETIC DOODADS

AND FYI I DO NOT OWN AN AR 15 i OWN A RUGER MINI 14 WHICH IS NOT BANNED BUT IS EXACTLY THE SAME IN EVERY FUCKING WAY TO AN AR 15 BUT FOR SOME FUCKING COSMETIC DOODADS BUT YOU ASSHOLES HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK SCARY

So, you are saying the weapons they want to ban only have extra cosmetic features - so why do you care? Do you need those cosmetic features to get it up or something?

So your mini as omitted the first time. Maybe Rugar had an inside guy to make sure it didn't make the list.

Every time to post you make it abundantly clear that you are utterly ignorant about the subject of firearms

Oh no, please don't lecture me again about the use of the word "clip".

I didn't mention clip

You don't know shit about firearms PERIOD

I know this, an assault type rifle with a 150 round clip can kill a lot more people faster than a man with a knife, a man with a handgun, a man with a rifle than is not an automatic or semiautomatic rifle. Evidently, you don't even know that.

yeah there are tons of those 150 round magazines just floating around

and so the fuck what if a person has a 150 round magazine.

A law abiding citizen is not in any way responsible for what a criminal does so if a law abiding person wants to own 100 AR 15 rifles each with 10 100 round magazines it's none of your fucking business

 

[Geaux4it]

BECAUSE IT IS FUCKING STUPID TO BAN A RIFLE BECAUSE OF PLASTIC COSMETIC DOODADS

AND FYI I DO NOT OWN AN AR 15 i OWN A RUGER MINI 14 WHICH IS NOT BANNED BUT IS EXACTLY THE SAME IN EVERY FUCKING WAY TO AN AR 15 BUT FOR SOME FUCKING COSMETIC DOODADS BUT YOU ASSHOLES HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK SCARY

So, you are saying the weapons they want to ban only have extra cosmetic features - so why do you care? Do you need those cosmetic features to get it up or something?

So your mini as omitted the first time. Maybe Rugar had an inside guy to make sure it didn't make the list.

Every time to post you make it abundantly clear that you are utterly ignorant about the subject of firearms

Oh no, please don't lecture me again about the use of the word "clip".

I didn't mention clip

You don't know shit about firearms PERIOD

I know this, an assault type rifle with a 150 round clip can kill a lot more people faster than a man with a knife, a man with a handgun, a man with a rifle than is not an automatic or semiautomatic rifle. Evidently, you don't even know that.

Criminals who have the freedom of choice such as choosing to murder with a gun, do not override my right to lawfully possess a gun

-Geaux

 

[Skull Pilot]

BECAUSE IT IS FUCKING STUPID TO BAN A RIFLE BECAUSE OF PLASTIC COSMETIC DOODADS

AND FYI I DO NOT OWN AN AR 15 i OWN A RUGER MINI 14 WHICH IS NOT BANNED BUT IS EXACTLY THE SAME IN EVERY FUCKING WAY TO AN AR 15 BUT FOR SOME FUCKING COSMETIC DOODADS BUT YOU ASSHOLES HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK SCARY

So, you are saying the weapons they want to ban only have extra cosmetic features - so why do you care? Do you need those cosmetic features to get it up or something?

So your mini as omitted the first time. Maybe Rugar had an inside guy to make sure it didn't make the list.

Every time to post you make it abundantly clear that you are utterly ignorant about the subject of firearms

Oh no, please don't lecture me again about the use of the word "clip".

I didn't mention clip

You don't know shit about firearms PERIOD

I know this, an assault type rifle with a 150 round clip can kill a lot more people faster than a man with a knife, a man with a handgun, a man with a rifle than is not an automatic or semiautomatic rifle. Evidently, you don't even know that.

here you go again demonstrating your ignorance

Fully auto rifles are not what we are talking about

 

[RealDave]

Background checks forced them into illegal activity risking their own family members. The more you force criminals to use illegal sources, the more likely they get caught.

Evidently your solution is just hand out guns to everyone. Its been your & the NRA solution for everything.

No one is "forced" into illegal activities

If a person wants to obtain a gun & can't pass a basckground check, then they are forced to go illegal.

No they are not "forced"

they CHOOSE

see the difference?

The choose top buy a gun. To do so, they are forced to do it illegally because they can't pass a background test.

Get it?

That's what makes them criminals. However, the law is in place which is suppose to force them to make the decision not to break the law. Breaking the law is a choice

-Geaux

You're just ridiculous.

If a person who can't pass a background check wants to buy a gun, gun laws force him to go off grid.

But hey, make your stupid post again like it changes anything.

 

[Skull Pilot]

why do you want to ban them ?

an AR 15 .223 caliber semiautomatic is not more deadly than a .223 semiautomatic ranch rifle and no matter how many times you say an Ar 15 is more deadly you are FUCKING WRONG

Look, comparing your mini is not what I am talking about. Your Mini should have been banned. I am talking to the assholes that compare it to handguns & bolt action & to knives. Try to keep up.

Each shot would pack the same punch but depending on the model you have, the difference would be whether it had a detachable clip & its capacity.

So what if it has a detachable MAGAZINE?
Almost every semiautomatic rifle does.

and what doe it matter if a law abiding person has a rifle with a detachable magazine? Is the mere ownership of that type of rifle going to turn him into a mass murderer?

and fyi the .223 doesn't pack much of a punch. In fact that round was designed to wound not kill.

But hey you have 4 weapons right now that are more deadly than any rifle be it a semiautomatic, a single shot or a scary black one and those weapons are your hands and feet. Because you probably don't know that more people are killed every single year with hands and feet than are killed by all rifles combined

SO here you are shitting your pants about a black small caliber rifle when every person you see every day is carrying far more deadly weapons

So now you claim the body count at Newtown would have been higher if Lanza had not been armed but attacked with his hands & feet?

Know what scares me, is an armed person who gets a hard-on if his gun is black & has certain cosmetic features.

No you're just scared all the time.

Banning an AR 15 is no different than banning all black cars can you understand that one?

Now you are being an ass. You are now telling me you are writhing on the floor in a tantrum much like the spoiled brat in the toy aisle at Walmart because you might not be able to own a black rifle?

I have no desire to own an AR 15 I already have a .223 semiautomatic rifle.

you just don't understand the first thing about firearms

 

[RealDave]

There was a ban Look it up. Become informed.

and you're too fucking stupid to realize the ban was nothing but legislation to make little pantywaists like you feel good

It it did nothing, why did you care?

you just can't understand that it makes no sense whatsoever to ban an AR 15 over some cosmetic doodads while every other type of semiauto is OK?

Those of us with a brain realize it is the first foray into banning all semiautomatic rifles and that is UNACCEPTABLE

There were more banned than the AR-15.

Again, if the ban would just end the cosmetics, why would you care?

and they were banned because of cosmetic features

why do you care if a rifle has a few doodads on it if it's not "more deadly" than a rifle without the doodads?

Why do you want them?

 

[Geaux4it]

No one is "forced" into illegal activities

If a person wants to obtain a gun & can't pass a basckground check, then they are forced to go illegal.

No they are not "forced"

they CHOOSE

see the difference?

The choose top buy a gun. To do so, they are forced to do it illegally because they can't pass a background test.

Get it?

That's what makes them criminals. However, the law is in place which is suppose to force them to make the decision not to break the law. Breaking the law is a choice

-Geaux

You're just ridiculous.

If a person who can't pass a background check wants to buy a gun, gun laws force him to go off grid.

But hey, make your stupid post again like it changes anything.

But there are laws in place that are suppose to convince them not to do that. You know, obey the law

-Geaux

 

[Skull Pilot]

No one is "forced" into illegal activities

If a person wants to obtain a gun & can't pass a basckground check, then they are forced to go illegal.

No they are not "forced"

they CHOOSE

see the difference?

The choose top buy a gun. To do so, they are forced to do it illegally because they can't pass a background test.

Get it?

That's what makes them criminals. However, the law is in place which is suppose to force them to make the decision not to break the law. Breaking the law is a choice

-Geaux

You're just ridiculous.

If a person who can't pass a background check wants to buy a gun, gun laws force him to go off grid.

But hey, make your stupid post again like it changes anything.

NO ONE IS FORCED TO BUY A GUN

they choose of their own free will to buy a gun whether it be legally or illegally

 

[Skull Pilot]

and you're too fucking stupid to realize the ban was nothing but legislation to make little pantywaists like you feel good

It it did nothing, why did you care?

you just can't understand that it makes no sense whatsoever to ban an AR 15 over some cosmetic doodads while every other type of semiauto is OK?

Those of us with a brain realize it is the first foray into banning all semiautomatic rifles and that is UNACCEPTABLE

There were more banned than the AR-15.

Again, if the ban would just end the cosmetics, why would you care?

and they were banned because of cosmetic features

why do you care if a rifle has a few doodads on it if it's not "more deadly" than a rifle without the doodads?

Why do you want them?

Why do you want to ban them? are you afraid of doodads too?

 

[2aguy]

So then you need a warrant to investigate a gun owners associates as well.

And the problem here is idiots like you who hold law abiding people responsible for the acts of others.

So why don't we just suspend the 4th and 5th amendments as well because according to your "logic" everyone is nothing more than a criminal in waiting.

We should chemically castrate all men because some men rape women
We should remove all children from their homes because some parents or family members abuse children

We should allow warrant less no knock searches of every residence because some people keep illegal drugs in their homes

After all everyone is a potential criminal, rapist, mass murderer in waiting

Even you

No, the problem are dumbass NRA fools who think we should have no laws on gun ownership. When I see a bunch of kids slaughtered by a crazy person with an assault type rifle, I think of assholes like you who have a freaking fit when laws are proposed to help stop that shit. YOU support the NRA & yes you are partly responsible.


This is really funny chit coming from the crowd that condemns & wants to ban Muslims because a few are terrorists.

it is not the position of the NRA that there be no gun laws but that law abiding people should be able to keep and bear firearms as their right guaranteed in the constitution.

So maybe you can tell me how I am responsible for the actions of another person just because I happen to own a firearm similar to the one used to commit mass murder?

If you support the NRA & vote for those who support the NRA & vote against sensible gun legislation, then yes, you are somewhat responsible.

AS a Trump voter, you are responsible for his actions.

What sensible legislation? Again, you guys use those words as if they are magic. What is this so called Sensible Legislation that would stop criminals or mass shooters? Please name it, and explain how it stops mass shooters and criminals, and how it doesn't violate the Constitution or target law abiding gun owners.

WE can make access to the more deadly weapons more difficulty.

Unless you want to argue again that an attacker with a knife is the same as one with an assault type rifle with a 150 round magazine.

Making guns harder to get helps law enforcement stop the criminals before they do the crime.

Making certain weapons illegal, enables the criminal's arrest BEFORE they actually kill people.

Sorry.....you can't have them...you anti gunners need to learn the word...No......you have no reason to take these guns...so you don't get them.......there are 8 million rifles with magazines in this country, and more are bought every day...you don't get to take them because a few people use them illegally...

We like these rifles, they fir our wants and needs.......and you aren't going to take them anymore.

You can argue that what difference does it make as long as we let you have some sort of rifle.....No.......those rifles will also be your targets........so No....you can't have them anymore....

Nothing you say about criminals and guns is true...the new laws you propose only hurt law abiding gun owners and you expect us to just accept your insanity......No.....

Since anti gunners think like children you need to hear this word often and early...No.....

 

[2aguy]

Why do you assume I voted for Trump? I didn't. I didn't vote at all because I refuse to vote for any candidate that makes me want to puke

The NRA is not responsible for anyone else's criminal acts.

So now tell me why you think I am responsible if some psycho uses a semiautomatic rifle in a mass murder?

And FYI because I happen to own several semiautomatic rifles is not an acceptable answer

The NRA backs certain legislation. Either the politicians vote their way or they get a bad rating. Asshole right wingers will not vote for those with poor NRA ratings.

When the assault rifle ban was not renewed thanks to NRA backed Republicans, they bew\came responsible each & every time those weapons are used in a crime.

When closing gun purchasing loopholes were defeated, every time a gun purchased in that manner is used in a crime, it is their responsibility.

See, you avoided it yet again.




What specific legislation did the NRA back that allowed a mass shooting to occur?

And you have yet to realize that a so called "assault" rifle is no different from any other semiautomatic rifle that has been available since the 1860's. The cosmetic doodads do not make it more deadly.

And what specific loopholes are you talking about? Do you even know?

The only person responsible for any crime is the person committing the crime. The guy who happens to own a similar firearm who was sitting at home eating dinner with his wife is not responsible for some ass hat who goes on a shooting spree

Are you just plain dense? Gun nuts keep telling me they need an assault type rifle or else they can't frerakin defend themselves yet can't admit that a mass shooter with one will do more damage than a rifle that is not semi-automatic with a large magazine. I see you agree with their stupidity.

And please will you assholes quit with the " there isn't such a thing as an assault rifle" bullshit.

Wrong......the rifle doesn't matter, there isn't one mass shooting that couldn't have been done with a pistol or multiple pistols, or a shotgun or combination.....the rifle with magazines are just easy to attack so the anti-gunners attack them...as the Judge who gave the injunction against California's new magazine ban stated, if you ban anthing over a 30 round magazine the shooters will use 15-19, then they ban those, then they will use 10 rounds then they will move on to all magazines, then they will limit revolvers to 5 shots..


The determining factor in these shootings is 1) they are gun free zones....2) the ones in confined spaces it doesn't matter if they use an AR-15 or pistols....

Notice....the baseball shooter with a magazine fed rifle only got 6 hits and only one of them was serious.....because of the gun free zone he attacked was wide open....

And, a guy with a rental truck killed 89 people and injured over 400.........banning rifles with magazines doesn't stop mass shooters...what stops them are people with guns shooting back.

See, you avoided it yet again.

The attacks could have been carried out with handguns, a bolt action rifle, a knife, two knives, a baseball bat, a chair, an umbrella or a soft serve ice cream cone; but would have the body count been as high.

Come on Mr Chickenshit.

Admit it.

Quit hiding.

Come out & say it.

The body counts would most like be higher with the assault type rifle.

When was the last time we shipped freight on a gun. Do ya think, just possibly, that a truck has other uses than killing? Bringing it up every freakin time is just being stupid.

Dumb shit...two attacks with rifles with magazines........1 dead........a rental truck...89 dead and 400 injured....you no longer have any case to make........

And both were gun free zones...another childish idea from you guys that gets innocent people killed.....

 

[2aguy]

f

What specific legislation did the NRA back that allowed a mass shooting to occur?

And you have yet to realize that a so called "assault" rifle is no different from any other semiautomatic rifle that has been available since the 1860's. The cosmetic doodads do not make it more deadly.

And what specific loopholes are you talking about? Do you even know?

The only person responsible for any crime is the person committing the crime. The guy who happens to own a similar firearm who was sitting at home eating dinner with his wife is not responsible for some ass hat who goes on a shooting spree

Again, if it is just cosmetic features that add nothing to the performance that makes a rifle an assault type rifle, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU GUN NUTS HAVING SUCH A FIT ABOUT HAVING ONE? Are you just a bunch of angry little boys trying to play army?

There is no reason to ban 8 million of these rifles when less than 5 a year are ever used in a crime....that is irrational and insane....

And we already know, if you get this rifle, you will just move on to the next......

You avoided the question.

If the only thing that makes an assault type rifle an Assault type rifle are cosmetic only, why the fuck do you want one?

why do you want to ban them ?

an AR 15 .223 caliber semiautomatic is not more deadly than a .223 semiautomatic ranch rifle and no matter how many times you say an Ar 15 is more deadly you are FUCKING WRONG

Look, comparing your mini is not what I am talking about. Your Mini should have been banned. I am talking to the assholes that compare it to handguns & bolt action & to knives. Try to keep up.

Each shot would pack the same punch but depending on the model you have, the difference would be whether it had a detachable clip & its capacity.

The target, not the gun determines how many die......

- gun free zone
- helpless victims
- confined space

Those determine deaths, not the weapons dumb shit.....

The Virginia tech shooter used pistols.....killed 32 people....

The baseball shooter and the hospital shooter both used rifles with magazines......

Killed 1.

You don't get these rifles.......no more giving in to your childish whims....

 

[2aguy]

Maybe you should define "assault type weapon" and then tell me how it differs from your average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's.

No semi-auto is an assault weapon

There was a ban Look it up. Become informed.

and you're too fucking stupid to realize the ban was nothing but legislation to make little pantywaists like you feel good

It it did nothing, why did you care?

you just can't understand that it makes no sense whatsoever to ban an AR 15 over some cosmetic doodads while every other type of semiauto is OK?

Those of us with a brain realize it is the first foray into banning all semiautomatic rifles and that is UNACCEPTABLE

There were more banned than the AR-15.

Again, if the ban would just end the cosmetics, why would you care?

You don't want just those guns...you will be back for the rest.........no.

 

[2aguy]

BECAUSE IT IS FUCKING STUPID TO BAN A RIFLE BECAUSE OF PLASTIC COSMETIC DOODADS

AND FYI I DO NOT OWN AN AR 15 i OWN A RUGER MINI 14 WHICH IS NOT BANNED BUT IS EXACTLY THE SAME IN EVERY FUCKING WAY TO AN AR 15 BUT FOR SOME FUCKING COSMETIC DOODADS BUT YOU ASSHOLES HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK SCARY

So, you are saying the weapons they want to ban only have extra cosmetic features - so why do you care? Do you need those cosmetic features to get it up or something?

So your mini as omitted the first time. Maybe Rugar had an inside guy to make sure it didn't make the list.

Every time to post you make it abundantly clear that you are utterly ignorant about the subject of firearms

Oh no, please don't lecture me again about the use of the word "clip".

I didn't mention clip

You don't know shit about firearms PERIOD

I know this, an assault type rifle with a 150 round clip can kill a lot more people faster than a man with a knife, a man with a handgun, a man with a rifle than is not an automatic or semiautomatic rifle. Evidently, you don't even know that.

Virginia tech...pistols.....32 dead.

2 shootings with rifles with magazines...1 dead.

Rental truck.....89 dead, 400 injured.

You have no legitimate argument.

 

[2aguy]

and you're too fucking stupid to realize the ban was nothing but legislation to make little pantywaists like you feel good

It it did nothing, why did you care?

you just can't understand that it makes no sense whatsoever to ban an AR 15 over some cosmetic doodads while every other type of semiauto is OK?

Those of us with a brain realize it is the first foray into banning all semiautomatic rifles and that is UNACCEPTABLE

There were more banned than the AR-15.

Again, if the ban would just end the cosmetics, why would you care?

and they were banned because of cosmetic features

why do you care if a rifle has a few doodads on it if it's not "more deadly" than a rifle without the doodads?

Why do you want them?

Me? Self defense...and personal liberty.