Yes, You're A Communist

[PK1]

So....yes....realize it or not....at their core, they are communists.

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So, at your CORE, you are an Anarchist?
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[PoliticalChic]

So....yes....realize it or not....at their core, they are communists.

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So, at your CORE, you are an Anarchist?
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Style note: when one begins a sentence with "So....," the implication is that the logic of the sentence flows from the post to which it was linked.

Since that is not the case with your post, one is led, sadly, to the belief that you either dropped out of school as a very, very young age....
...or, you are a government school graduate.

And, as such, you are eligible to join with the other morons, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and random 'is not, is nooottttt' posters.



Oh....That reminds me: I would like to apologize to anyone I have not insulted as of yet. Please be patient....I will get to you shortly.



And, BTW.....welcome to the board.

 

[Mac1958]

Just trying to keep score here.

If my city repairs a pothole, I've lost some freedom. If my state kicks in for a homeless shelter, I've lost some liberty. If my federal government tries to keep dead rats out of my hamburger meat, I've lost freedom AND liberty.

This is the flaw of absolutism: It's just so easy to poke holes in.
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[PoliticalChic]

Just trying to keep score here.

If my city repairs a pothole, I've lost some freedom. If my state kicks in for a homeless shelter, I've lost some liberty. If my federal government tries to keep dead rats out of my hamburger meat, I've lost freedom AND liberty.

This is the flaw of absolutism: It's just so easy to poke holes in.
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Are those services consistent with your state's constitution?
Yes?
Well, then....you post is......a pothole.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So very many Americans have been trained to accept communism, collectivization, government dictates, without question.
And they do.

Over 100 million men, women, and children were slaughtered by Soviet Communism alone. When that fact was stated, one inveterate Liberal poster laughingly posted 'You sure it wasn't 100 billion?' There's that vaunted Liberal empathy.


10. The modern Liberal revisionist is aware of the horrors of Communism; the tortures, the Gulags, the over 100 million persons done to death. And is even aware that the American Communists were taking their orders from Moscow and were attempting to impose the Red Utopia upon the United States.

Had they been successful, this would have led to millions tortured, enslaved, starved and murdered. It would have led to the death of human freedom for untold years. As the US was the bulwark of freedom and Democracy, it's communization would have turned the entire world into an abattoir.
Yet, the acknowledgement is met with a shrug.



You can see that echoed in the posts of the Liberals, Progressives, Democrats....the 'is not, is nooottttt' battalion throughout this thread.
None of them even tried to dispute the facts provided. They can't.


So....yes....realize it or not....at their core, they are communists.

Prove that Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo are Communists.

They are, indisputably, Liberals. Your accusation is that they are therefore Communists.

Please, prove it with some evidence. Your time is running out.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Just trying to keep score here.

If my city repairs a pothole, I've lost some freedom. If my state kicks in for a homeless shelter, I've lost some liberty. If my federal government tries to keep dead rats out of my hamburger meat, I've lost freedom AND liberty.

This is the flaw of absolutism: It's just so easy to poke holes in.
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If we have a government = losing freedom
IF we pave the roads and tax people to pay for it = losing freedom
If we as a society make laws to keep our water clean and air fresh = losing freedom
If we spend money to be the best in science and r&d = losing freedom

Loserterianism is anti-civlization and promotes the idea that humanity can only be free if it turns back to hunter gatherism. It is retarded.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Is it undeniable fact that you say Hitler a Marxist, or is it just an opinion pulled out of thin air with thin factual support?

Is it undeniable fact that you say Joe Biden is a Communist? Where did you prove Joe Biden is a Communist?

"Is it undeniable fact that you say Hitler a Marxist, or is it just an opinion pulled out of thin air with thin factual support?"

OK....ok....the thrashing you demand....coming right up:


"Hitler and the socialist dream

He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger

. Hermann Rauschning, for example, a Danzig Nazi who knew Hitler before and after his accession to power in 1933, tells how in private Hitler acknowledged his profound debt to the Marxian tradition. "I have learned a great deal from Marxism" he once remarked, "as I do not hesitate to admit".

German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas "I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun", adding revealingly that "the whole of National Socialism" was based on Marx.

.....; though even in the autobiography he observes that his own doctrine was fundamentally distinguished from the Marxist by reason that it recognised the significance of race - implying, perhaps, that it might otherwise easily look like a derivative. Without race, he went on, National Socialism "would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground". Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him.

Yet privately, and perhaps even publicly, he conceded that National Socialism was based on Marx. On reflection, it makes consistent sense. The basis of a dogma is not the dogma, much as the foundation of a building is not the building, and in numerous ways National Socialism was based on Marxism." Hitler and the socialist dream



Smashed another custard pie in your kisser, huh?
Love it.

A new book suggests otherwise?

Here's another book that suggests the otherwise of that time in history:

Did Six Million Really Die? (book)

So now you've endorsed the legitimacy of the Holocaust deniers.

I love it when you are so destroyed you need to rapidly change the subject.

Don't your hands hurt from holding on by a thread for so long?

I'm waiting for you to prove that Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo are Communists. I'll take an hour of stunned silence as an admission you can't,

thereby destroying your loony claim that there is no difference between a liberal and a communist.

go!

Ingrate!

Wasn't proving that Adolph Hitler was a student and devotee of Karl Marx wasn't enough of a lesson for you today????

You proved no such thing. You quoted some opinions.

 

[NYcarbineer]

She is quoting third hand heresay about Hitler claimed to have been said in 'private conversations' that contradicts what he said openly in the written and the spoken word.

Since PC never personally defends the content of her cut and paste with, god forbid, thoughts of her own,

it's futile to ask, but I would like to see her identify the modern day Nazis from among the liberals in America today,
and prove by valid argument that they can fairly be categorized both as liberals and Nazis. And do so not quoting any more unknown nutcases from the bowels of the internet.

The mere effort might literally kill her.

All my thoughts and opinions are my own.

And, my threads are undeniable.....your lying is not a denial....as you have found on a daily basis.

Is it undeniable fact that you say Hitler a Marxist, or is it just an opinion pulled out of thin air with thin factual support?

Is it undeniable fact that you say Joe Biden is a Communist? Where did you prove Joe Biden is a Communist?

"Is it undeniable fact that you say Hitler a Marxist, or is it just an opinion pulled out of thin air with thin factual support?"

OK....ok....the thrashing you demand....coming right up:


"Hitler and the socialist dream

He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger

. Hermann Rauschning, for example, a Danzig Nazi who knew Hitler before and after his accession to power in 1933, tells how in private Hitler acknowledged his profound debt to the Marxian tradition. "I have learned a great deal from Marxism" he once remarked, "as I do not hesitate to admit".

German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas "I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun", adding revealingly that "the whole of National Socialism" was based on Marx.

.....; though even in the autobiography he observes that his own doctrine was fundamentally distinguished from the Marxist by reason that it recognised the significance of race - implying, perhaps, that it might otherwise easily look like a derivative. Without race, he went on, National Socialism "would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground". Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him.

Yet privately, and perhaps even publicly, he conceded that National Socialism was based on Marx. On reflection, it makes consistent sense. The basis of a dogma is not the dogma, much as the foundation of a building is not the building, and in numerous ways National Socialism was based on Marxism." Hitler and the socialist dream



Smashed another custard pie in your kisser, huh?
Love it.

A new book suggests otherwise?

Here's another book that suggests the otherwise of that time in history:

Did Six Million Really Die? (book)

So now you've endorsed the legitimacy of the Holocaust deniers.

I love it when you are so destroyed you need to rapidly change the subject.

Don't your hands hurt from holding on by a thread for so long?

Let me bring it closer to home for you.

Can you prove the liberal parties in South Korea are Communists?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Communism wouldn't allow a private sector
Communism wouldn't allow you the right to vote
Communism wouldn't allow you any civil rights or a fair trial. They'd just shoot you!

What we have is civilization that we of course can disagree with somethings and agree with others but we have all those things.

Loserterianism is as evil as communism. It says that government and working together as a society at all is wrong. Both extremes are fucking wrong.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What's amusing here is that even amongst Politicalchic's most sycophantic of sycophantics won't support her loony contention that Joe Biden is a Communist.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Civilization is at least 10,000 years old and is possibly the greatest thing humanity ever done.

If you don't like it well you can find a nice mountain and leave us the fuck alone!

 

[NYcarbineer]

PoliticalChic ignores the arguments she can't refute. That is how you figure out she's lost the argument.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'd sure like to drill down and get specific on this, rather just cutting & pasting & tossing out platitudes.

When, precisely, do we go from NOT COMMUNIST to COMMUNIST in the following ways?

• Personal income tax highest margin
• Business income tax
  
• Government spending as a percentage of GDP
  
• Percentage of overall production owned by government
• Percentage of overall distribution owned by government

Let's get specific, so I can keep an eye out for communism.

Somebody give me some figures, some data points I can sink my teeth into, so we'll know when to buy more red clothes.

I don't look good in red, by the way, full disclosure.
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".... get specific on this, rather just cutting & pasting ...."

Why in the world would you pretend that the two are mutually exclusive?

Assuming that you are bright enough to know that they are not.....then you are fibbing.
And, if so......could the reason be that I am correct.
There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism. At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.

For some reason, you are not courageous enough to admit the above.



For some reason, foreign to me, some folks are more afraid of offending those with an......erroneous...view, than than they are of allowing said views to go unchallenged.
They are known as 'fence sitters.'

You post 3rd party opinions, claim they are fact, contribute nothing out of your own nearly vacant skull in any attempt to support them with substantive argument, and then resort to childish insults when you are rightfully called on it.

I regularly destroy you.

That's the truth,isn't it.

And you're consistent at being a liar.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"What is conservative liberty, anyhow?"

An oxymoron.

 

[NYcarbineer]

b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

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There is actually no credible, verifiable evidence that Hitler ever said that, let alone 'often' said that.

 

[ScienceRocks]

b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

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There is actually no credible, verifiable evidence that Hitler ever said that, let alone 'often' said that.

yep, he hated the marxist/communist and threw them out of government as he grew in power.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Surprising how many good Americans have been fooled into accepting, and voting for, communism. And when the truth is revealed, they are startled, incensed, and furious that anyone would say such a thing.

But it's true. There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism. At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.

How did communism become the public religion of America? The following will explain, ....as we say in science....'its origin and insertion."


In a recent thread, one that illustrated the connections between environmentalists, communists, with the confiscation of private property, a government school graduate demonstrated how offended she was by posting this as part of a scathing disavowal of the above:

"OP tries to connect communism to the moderate left wing democrats." One More Of Those Environmentalist Fairytales

Clearly, an intervention is sorely needed.

It follows:



1. Karl Marx's lethal philosophy is the basis of both communism and of Nazism.

a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." NYTimes, November 27, 1925.

b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.



2. I don't use "lethal" in a cavalier fashion: Over 100 million men, women, and children were slaughtered by Soviet Communism alone. When that fact was stated, one inveterate Liberal poster laughed, and said 'You sure it wasn't 100 billion?'
And the horrors of Nazism are well known. But both began here:

a. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

b. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

c. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.




And this is what we find leading the Democrat Party this very day:
"Bernie Sanders Makes His Pitch for Socialism" Bernie Sanders Outlines A Vision for Fixing American Society



Read more- if you dare, Liberals.

Here are the FACTS that dismiss the nonsense of George Watson that PC depends on for this 'argument'.

Communism Made Easy: Did Marx call for the extermination of ethnic minorities?

 

[initforme]

Hey everyone PC says I am a threat. She has directed as such. Is that slander or libel?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Okay, time's up.

Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo are not Communists.

The OP's argument that all liberals are Communists is proven false. The thread is proven false. The author of the thread is proven to promote falsehoods.

Any questions?

 

[PK1]

So....yes....realize it or not....at their core, they are communists.

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So, at your CORE, you are an Anarchist?
.

Style note: when one begins a sentence with "So....," the implication is that the logic of the sentence flows from the post to which it was linked.

Since that is not the case with your post, one is led, sadly, to the belief that you either dropped out of school as a very, very young age....
...or, you are a government school graduate.

And, as such, you are eligible to join with the other morons, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and random 'is not, is nooottttt' posters.

Oh....That reminds me: I would like to apologize to anyone I have not insulted as of yet. Please be patient....I will get to you shortly.

And, BTW.....welcome to the board.

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So, you prefer superficial style over substance?
My logic was flawless, and contrasted your extreme position on gov activities with the other extreme.
It was a continuation from my earlier Post #303.

BTW, thx for your welcome, 8 months in.
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