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Yep. LoneLaugher does though. He's a big advocate of government as charity. So he was about to tell us how much extra of his paycheck he donates to the Feds, right Lone?

So what do you do? Do you pay a higher tax rate? Do you just not take deductions you're entitled to? Do you just write a bigger check? How is it you back up your declared support for government as charity with your voluntarily with your checkbook?

LoneLaugher is laughing because he is the joke

You are trying very hard to make some kind of point. It's not clear, though. I have absolutely no problem paying taxes which provide for universal health care.

Charity doesn't work as a means of delivering universal health care. Sorry. All income needs to.be taxed at a rate that provides for the care of all who walk this land. It is called personal responsibility.

Why should a working person, who works hard for what she or he has, have to pay for her or his own healthcare and someone else's healthcare too? Maybe that person chooses to not work and expects everyone else to care for him or her? We would want to try to DISCOURAGE that type of behavior and not make it easy for them to just take from everyone else against THEIR will. People who fall below the poverty lines in their respective states already are eligible to get Medicaid.

Very few sane, able bodied people choose not to work.

That's where you begin having problems. You have a low opinion of your fellow Americans.

Change that POV and you'll begin to see how single payer saves you money in the end.

Like the wonderful European model that you so admire? :D Lol! I have a very high opinion of my fellow Americans. I feel that the vast majority of them are perfectly capable of making decisions about and purchasing their own healthcare plans.

Nope. You think your fellow Americans are waiting to scam you out of your money. Be honest, at least.

Is there any way you could be more of a douchebag? Probably not. Lol. You have no clue what I think. You are not that smart. :D
 
Yep. LoneLaugher does though. He's a big advocate of government as charity. So he was about to tell us how much extra of his paycheck he donates to the Feds, right Lone?

So what do you do? Do you pay a higher tax rate? Do you just not take deductions you're entitled to? Do you just write a bigger check? How is it you back up your declared support for government as charity with your voluntarily with your checkbook?

LoneLaugher is laughing because he is the joke

You are trying very hard to make some kind of point. It's not clear, though. I have absolutely no problem paying taxes which provide for universal health care.

Charity doesn't work as a means of delivering universal health care. Sorry. All income needs to.be taxed at a rate that provides for the care of all who walk this land. It is called personal responsibility.

What? Personal responsibility means providing for yourself and not expecting others to care for you. Lol. Hello?

Yep. By paying your taxes you take responsibility for yourself. You might spend a few thousand a year to ensure that you get care when you need it. Even if that care costs hundreds of times what you paid in taxes. You won't view that as taking what isn't yours, will you?

Doing your part. Taking responsibility for the health and we'll being of fellow Americans and visitors. Everyone pays in. Everyone gets care.

Why would you even want to live in a place where being poor means you can't get proper health care?

You're here arguing for taxes as being your charity. We're arguing it should not be, we should perform our own charity.

Yet you're also saying we should be forced to pay for your views AND you should pay nothing extra for your own views. Zero.

You're a small man, a very small one

Again with the charity. Where is that coming from?

Not from YOU probably!
 
You are trying very hard to make some kind of point. It's not clear, though. I have absolutely no problem paying taxes which provide for universal health care.

Charity doesn't work as a means of delivering universal health care. Sorry. All income needs to.be taxed at a rate that provides for the care of all who walk this land. It is called personal responsibility.

What? Personal responsibility means providing for yourself and not expecting others to care for you. Lol. Hello?

Yep. By paying your taxes you take responsibility for yourself. You might spend a few thousand a year to ensure that you get care when you need it. Even if that care costs hundreds of times what you paid in taxes. You won't view that as taking what isn't yours, will you?

Doing your part. Taking responsibility for the health and we'll being of fellow Americans and visitors. Everyone pays in. Everyone gets care.

Why would you even want to live in a place where being poor means you can't get proper health care?

Poor people already have government health care. Otherwise, your healthcare is provided by private insurance companies. Also, people who perhaps only work part time can also get Medicaid. ANY poor person can get Medicaid.

Incorrect. Please check your sources.

You are incorrect. Check yourself. If you fall below the poverty guidelines in your respective state, then you are eligible for Medicaid which is government run healthcare for the poor.

No. There are people who are denied Medicare routinely. They go without care. Why would it need to be expanded if everyone who.needs it gets it?

Enough with the misinformation.
 
What? Personal responsibility means providing for yourself and not expecting others to care for you. Lol. Hello?

Yep. By paying your taxes you take responsibility for yourself. You might spend a few thousand a year to ensure that you get care when you need it. Even if that care costs hundreds of times what you paid in taxes. You won't view that as taking what isn't yours, will you?

Doing your part. Taking responsibility for the health and we'll being of fellow Americans and visitors. Everyone pays in. Everyone gets care.

Why would you even want to live in a place where being poor means you can't get proper health care?

Poor people already have government health care. Otherwise, your healthcare is provided by private insurance companies. Also, people who perhaps only work part time can also get Medicaid. ANY poor person can get Medicaid.

Incorrect. Please check your sources.

You are incorrect. Check yourself. If you fall below the poverty guidelines in your respective state, then you are eligible for Medicaid which is government run healthcare for the poor.

No. There are people who are denied Medicare routinely. They go without care. Why would it need to be expanded if everyone who.needs it gets it?

Enough with the misinformation.

Medicare is not the same thing as Medicaid, dummy. Medicaid is government funded healthcare for poor people. If anyone falls below the poverty line in their respective state, then they qualify for Medicaid.
 
I think we all know by now that the government is not very good or efficient at running things or handling tax dollars. :D If you don't realize this by now, then you have some really serious brain issues.
 
I'm from the government, trust me to make things even worse. Lol at people who want to place their lives and health in the hands of their government lackeys and politicians and bureaucrats. :D Too funny.
 
I would agree with certain terms set for any health insurance company though. No more "junk" health insurance which nobody accepts or where it is very hard to find a doctor who accepts it. Also, no more denying doctor approved treatments by bureaucrats at the insurance companies. No more pre-existing conditions limitations (duh, those are the people who NEED healthcare the MOST!) I don't see any need to have government involved in healthcare any more than setting up expectations for how health insurance companies operate and providing for the TRULY poor who, according to current poverty guidelines in their respective states, legitimately cannot afford to pay for their own insurance. It is ONLY around $35 per week for a decent healthcare plan. It is not SUPER expensive or out of reach of most Americans.

Oh, I also wouldn't mind seeing the elimination of deductibles. That is some bogus BS right there!

You just described the Affordable Care Act.

We could, pretty easily, institute universal coverage. Lower the eligible age for Medicare down to zero. Everyone is covered under a basic plan. This will keep insurance companies in business selling supplemental policies.
 
Kind of like, Donald Trump and republicans are nazis and racists. The police are racists and kill black people on the streets for sport! Give up your arms to the government. Let the police do the policing for you. :D Trust them!
 
Nothing wrong and I agree. Those who perished in making the Great Country......of Chile..... what she is today deserve the utmost in respect for their sacrifice.
 
Yep. By paying your taxes you take responsibility for yourself. You might spend a few thousand a year to ensure that you get care when you need it. Even if that care costs hundreds of times what you paid in taxes. You won't view that as taking what isn't yours, will you?

Doing your part. Taking responsibility for the health and we'll being of fellow Americans and visitors. Everyone pays in. Everyone gets care.

Why would you even want to live in a place where being poor means you can't get proper health care?

Poor people already have government health care. Otherwise, your healthcare is provided by private insurance companies. Also, people who perhaps only work part time can also get Medicaid. ANY poor person can get Medicaid.

Incorrect. Please check your sources.

You are incorrect. Check yourself. If you fall below the poverty guidelines in your respective state, then you are eligible for Medicaid which is government run healthcare for the poor.

No. There are people who are denied Medicare routinely. They go without care. Why would it need to be expanded if everyone who.needs it gets it?

Enough with the misinformation.

Medicare is not the same thing as Medicaid, dummy. Medicaid is government funded healthcare for poor people. If anyone falls below the poverty line in their respective state, then they qualify for Medicaid.

Yep. I used the wrong term there. Nice catch. I was referring to the need for Medicaid expansion.

Point stands.
 
You've made that up.

Sure I have. Leftists are MOST respectful of our military and admire American strength and might in the world. :D Lol.
Of course we do

We just oppose senseless wars and empire building around the world

Unless it is a policy instituted by a democrat politician of course. Then you stand behind it 100%! :D

I opposed Vietnam

Oh, were you one of the protesting leftists who never even fought in a war calling American soldiers "baby killers?"
I admired our soldiers, many were brothers of friends and schoolmates

The politicians and Generals were the baby killers
 
I'm from the government, trust me to make things even worse. Lol at people who want to place their lives and health in the hands of their government lackeys and politicians and bureaucrats. :D Too funny.
But you willingly hand your life over to an insurance company that’s only concern is profit
You know who keeps the insurance companies in line?
The government
 
kaz: I don't want charity, I don't want government to pay for my charity, I should pay for it myself.

LoneLaughedAt: I don't want to pay for my charity, I want taxpayers to pay for my charity. In fact I don't pay a nickle more in taxes than I have to pay. Oh, and I'm richer than you, kaz.

That was seriously your argument that you're somehow more moral than me? According to YOUR story, you're a complete douche. I mean do you ever think through your arguments before you say them? Obviously not since you're a leftist, but I mean geez, dude, you're just embarrassing yourself.

Speaking of your shriveled dick:



Hey, anyone can volunteer to donate more of their check to taxes. I wonder how many leftists here actually do that? Hmm.


Yep. LoneLaugher does though. He's a big advocate of government as charity. So he was about to tell us how much extra of his paycheck he donates to the Feds, right Lone?

So what do you do? Do you pay a higher tax rate? Do you just not take deductions you're entitled to? Do you just write a bigger check? How is it you back up your declared support for government as charity with your voluntarily with your checkbook?

LoneLaugher is laughing because he is the joke


You are trying very hard to make some kind of point. It's not clear, though. I have absolutely no problem paying taxes which provide for universal health care.

Charity doesn't work as a means of delivering universal health care. Sorry. All income needs to.be taxed at a rate that provides for the care of all who walk this land. It is called personal responsibility.


Why should a working person, who works hard for what she or he has, have to pay for her or his own healthcare and someone else's healthcare too? Maybe that person chooses to not work and expects everyone else to care for him or her? We would want to try to DISCOURAGE that type of behavior and not make it easy for them to just take from everyone else against THEIR will. People who fall below the poverty lines in their respective states already are eligible to get Medicaid.


Very few sane, able bodied people choose not to work.

That's where you begin having problems. You have a low opinion of your fellow Americans.

Change that POV and you'll begin to see how single payer saves you money in the end.


Bull shit. You just made that up. We have an entire culture of people who don't have jobs and don't want one. More and more kids have parents they never saw work.

And who are you to talk? You're importing millions of illegal aliens a year to take the jobs of the poor who do want jobs. You're not exactly a decent human being
 
Hey, anyone can volunteer to donate more of their check to taxes. I wonder how many leftists here actually do that? Hmm.

Yep. LoneLaugher does though. He's a big advocate of government as charity. So he was about to tell us how much extra of his paycheck he donates to the Feds, right Lone?

So what do you do? Do you pay a higher tax rate? Do you just not take deductions you're entitled to? Do you just write a bigger check? How is it you back up your declared support for government as charity with your voluntarily with your checkbook?

LoneLaugher is laughing because he is the joke

You are trying very hard to make some kind of point. It's not clear, though. I have absolutely no problem paying taxes which provide for universal health care.

Charity doesn't work as a means of delivering universal health care. Sorry. All income needs to.be taxed at a rate that provides for the care of all who walk this land. It is called personal responsibility.

Why should a working person, who works hard for what she or he has, have to pay for her or his own healthcare and someone else's healthcare too? Maybe that person chooses to not work and expects everyone else to care for him or her? We would want to try to DISCOURAGE that type of behavior and not make it easy for them to just take from everyone else against THEIR will. People who fall below the poverty lines in their respective states already are eligible to get Medicaid.

Very few sane, able bodied people choose not to work.

That's where you begin having problems. You have a low opinion of your fellow Americans.

Change that POV and you'll begin to see how single payer saves you money in the end.

Bull shit. You just made that up. We have an entire culture of people who don't have jobs and don't want one. More and more kids have parents they never saw work.

And who are you to talk? You're importing millions of illegal aliens a year to take the jobs of the poor who do want jobs. You're not exactly a decent human being

How many? How many able bodied, sane Americans refuse to work and live off of welfare? Give me a number. Thanks.

I don't import anyone. Well, my wife is an import. But she is a hot nurse. I think Trump would let her stay.

If we didn't have immigrant workers, our economy would tank. You don't know that because you are a moron.
 
Yep. LoneLaugher does though. He's a big advocate of government as charity. So he was about to tell us how much extra of his paycheck he donates to the Feds, right Lone?

So what do you do? Do you pay a higher tax rate? Do you just not take deductions you're entitled to? Do you just write a bigger check? How is it you back up your declared support for government as charity with your voluntarily with your checkbook?

LoneLaugher is laughing because he is the joke

You are trying very hard to make some kind of point. It's not clear, though. I have absolutely no problem paying taxes which provide for universal health care.

Charity doesn't work as a means of delivering universal health care. Sorry. All income needs to.be taxed at a rate that provides for the care of all who walk this land. It is called personal responsibility.

What? Personal responsibility means providing for yourself and not expecting others to care for you. Lol. Hello?

Yep. By paying your taxes you take responsibility for yourself. You might spend a few thousand a year to ensure that you get care when you need it. Even if that care costs hundreds of times what you paid in taxes. You won't view that as taking what isn't yours, will you?

Doing your part. Taking responsibility for the health and we'll being of fellow Americans and visitors. Everyone pays in. Everyone gets care.

Why would you even want to live in a place where being poor means you can't get proper health care?

Poor people already have government health care. Otherwise, your healthcare is provided by private insurance companies. Also, people who perhaps only work part time can also get Medicaid. ANY poor person can get Medicaid.

Incorrect. Please check your sources.

To leftists like LoneLoser, equality means equality of results. He wants us to all get shitty healthcare so it's the same. That's all that matters.

Yet he doesn't pay more taxes that he advocates and he doesn't move to Cuba and live his dream. He wants to destroy us all here
 
You are trying very hard to make some kind of point. It's not clear, though. I have absolutely no problem paying taxes which provide for universal health care.

Charity doesn't work as a means of delivering universal health care. Sorry. All income needs to.be taxed at a rate that provides for the care of all who walk this land. It is called personal responsibility.

What? Personal responsibility means providing for yourself and not expecting others to care for you. Lol. Hello?

Yep. By paying your taxes you take responsibility for yourself. You might spend a few thousand a year to ensure that you get care when you need it. Even if that care costs hundreds of times what you paid in taxes. You won't view that as taking what isn't yours, will you?

Doing your part. Taking responsibility for the health and we'll being of fellow Americans and visitors. Everyone pays in. Everyone gets care.

Why would you even want to live in a place where being poor means you can't get proper health care?

Poor people already have government health care. Otherwise, your healthcare is provided by private insurance companies. Also, people who perhaps only work part time can also get Medicaid. ANY poor person can get Medicaid.

Incorrect. Please check your sources.

To leftists like LoneLoser, equality means equality of results. He wants us to all get shitty healthcare so it's the same. That's all that matters.

Yet he doesn't pay more taxes that he advocates and he doesn't move to Cuba and live his dream. He wants to destroy us all here

Nope. More dopey statements from you. I am a small business owner. I love capitalism.
 
Yep. LoneLaugher does though. He's a big advocate of government as charity. So he was about to tell us how much extra of his paycheck he donates to the Feds, right Lone?

So what do you do? Do you pay a higher tax rate? Do you just not take deductions you're entitled to? Do you just write a bigger check? How is it you back up your declared support for government as charity with your voluntarily with your checkbook?

LoneLaugher is laughing because he is the joke

You are trying very hard to make some kind of point. It's not clear, though. I have absolutely no problem paying taxes which provide for universal health care.

Charity doesn't work as a means of delivering universal health care. Sorry. All income needs to.be taxed at a rate that provides for the care of all who walk this land. It is called personal responsibility.

Why should a working person, who works hard for what she or he has, have to pay for her or his own healthcare and someone else's healthcare too? Maybe that person chooses to not work and expects everyone else to care for him or her? We would want to try to DISCOURAGE that type of behavior and not make it easy for them to just take from everyone else against THEIR will. People who fall below the poverty lines in their respective states already are eligible to get Medicaid.

Very few sane, able bodied people choose not to work.

That's where you begin having problems. You have a low opinion of your fellow Americans.

Change that POV and you'll begin to see how single payer saves you money in the end.

Like the wonderful European model that you so admire? :D Lol! I have a very high opinion of my fellow Americans. I feel that the vast majority of them are perfectly capable of making decisions about and purchasing their own healthcare plans.

Nope. You think your fellow Americans are waiting to scam you out of your money. Be honest, at least.

Of course they are. Let's start with a dude called Obama ...
 
Yep. LoneLaugher does though. He's a big advocate of government as charity. So he was about to tell us how much extra of his paycheck he donates to the Feds, right Lone?

So what do you do? Do you pay a higher tax rate? Do you just not take deductions you're entitled to? Do you just write a bigger check? How is it you back up your declared support for government as charity with your voluntarily with your checkbook?

LoneLaugher is laughing because he is the joke

You are trying very hard to make some kind of point. It's not clear, though. I have absolutely no problem paying taxes which provide for universal health care.

Charity doesn't work as a means of delivering universal health care. Sorry. All income needs to.be taxed at a rate that provides for the care of all who walk this land. It is called personal responsibility.

Why should a working person, who works hard for what she or he has, have to pay for her or his own healthcare and someone else's healthcare too? Maybe that person chooses to not work and expects everyone else to care for him or her? We would want to try to DISCOURAGE that type of behavior and not make it easy for them to just take from everyone else against THEIR will. People who fall below the poverty lines in their respective states already are eligible to get Medicaid.

Very few sane, able bodied people choose not to work.

That's where you begin having problems. You have a low opinion of your fellow Americans.

Change that POV and you'll begin to see how single payer saves you money in the end.

Bull shit. You just made that up. We have an entire culture of people who don't have jobs and don't want one. More and more kids have parents they never saw work.

And who are you to talk? You're importing millions of illegal aliens a year to take the jobs of the poor who do want jobs. You're not exactly a decent human being

How many? How many able bodied, sane Americans refuse to work and live off of welfare? Give me a number. Thanks.

I don't import anyone. Well, my wife is an import. But she is a hot nurse. I think Trump would let her stay.

If we didn't have immigrant workers, our economy would tank. You don't know that because you are a moron.

Waiting kaz

How many?
 
Yep. LoneLaugher does though. He's a big advocate of government as charity. So he was about to tell us how much extra of his paycheck he donates to the Feds, right Lone?

So what do you do? Do you pay a higher tax rate? Do you just not take deductions you're entitled to? Do you just write a bigger check? How is it you back up your declared support for government as charity with your voluntarily with your checkbook?

LoneLaugher is laughing because he is the joke

You are trying very hard to make some kind of point. It's not clear, though. I have absolutely no problem paying taxes which provide for universal health care.

Charity doesn't work as a means of delivering universal health care. Sorry. All income needs to.be taxed at a rate that provides for the care of all who walk this land. It is called personal responsibility.

What? Personal responsibility means providing for yourself and not expecting others to care for you. Lol. Hello?

Yep. By paying your taxes you take responsibility for yourself. You might spend a few thousand a year to ensure that you get care when you need it. Even if that care costs hundreds of times what you paid in taxes. You won't view that as taking what isn't yours, will you?

Doing your part. Taking responsibility for the health and we'll being of fellow Americans and visitors. Everyone pays in. Everyone gets care.

Why would you even want to live in a place where being poor means you can't get proper health care?

You're here arguing for taxes as being your charity. We're arguing it should not be, we should perform our own charity.

Yet you're also saying we should be forced to pay for your views AND you should pay nothing extra for your own views. Zero.

You're a small man, a very small one

Again with the charity. Where is that coming from?

And yet you want your children to get the same crappy government education you got.

I'm saying you advocate government solutions, but you don't pay a dime for it that you're not forced to pay.

Start by deciding what your tax rate should be, then pay it. The government will gladly accept the money.

Hypocrite
 

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