Zelensky got his latest payday...and then asked for more

When the American politicians went over there to genuflect that meant something different completely.
...so American politician supposedly showed some sort of respect for Ukrainians, thereby tricking Russia into invading Ukraine.

Did I capture the entire elegance of your argument or is there something not completely fucking stupid in there that you forgot to explain?
 
Declaring war is a politically partisan thing. Every war the US has engaged in has been opposed on partisan grounds.

As you must know, many wars are undeclared by Congress. Are undeclared wars also ALL partisan?

Please tell me of the Rs in Congress who opposed FDR’s war declaration against Japan after Pearl Harbor was attacked.

Please tell me of the Ds in Congress who opposed W’s invasion of Afghanistan.
 
Everything about your reply proves that Russia is an authoritarian thuggish nation.

The fact that everyone around them wants to join NATO is further proof.
Now you change the subject after I’ve thoroughly disproved your point.

Do you want the USG to go to war with every thuggish nation in-the world, including a nuclear superpower? If so, you’re an idiot.
 
Yes. Many Americans WANT to believe the lies they were told in government grade school about their country. They can’t accept the truth, though it’s obvious.

Unfortunately this results in many Americans supporting their criminal government’s imperialism and interventionism.
Even worse (imho) elite private schools educated their charges to believe they have a birthright to profit from America's imperialism and interventionism.:omg:
 
No, the only inevitability came from Putin. The Azov battalion gained legitimacy AFTER Russia STOLE the Crimea from the Ukraine. The Ukraine realized it wasn't strong enough.
When and how did Ukraine acquire Crimea?

History of Crimea - Wikipedia

"In 1774, the Ottoman Empire was defeated by Catherine the Great.

"After two centuries of conflict, the Russian fleet had destroyed the Ottoman navy and the Russian army had inflicted heavy defeats on the Ottoman land forces.

"The ensuing Treaty of Küçük Kaynarca forced the Sublime Porte to recognize the Tatars of the Crimea as politically independent.

"Catherine the Great's incorporation of the Crimea in 1783 from the defeated Ottoman Empire into the Russian Empire increased Russia's power in the Black Sea area."
 
Some have pointed out the far right received only 2% of the vote in Ukraine’s 2019 parliamentary elections," "What has received less coverage is the Putin regime’s own record of collaboration with far-right extremists"
That's about the same percentage Hitler earned in his first attempt at acquiring political power,

Ukrainian Nazis despise democracy and believe the only real power comes from the barrel of a gun.

Former US officer : We trained neo-Nazis in Ukraine

"Washington, SANA- Former Marine Corps intelligence officer, Scott Ritter, revealed that the US army trained the neo –Nazis in Ukraine contributing to their extending inside the state’s agencies.

"'US, British and Canadian armies trained neo-Nazis affiliated to Azov Battalion in Ukraine who later seized the power in the country' Ritter said in a meeting with Journalist George Galloway .

"Ritter asserted that foreign military units belonging to the US and the European Union, visited Ukraine to form extremist nationalist groups and after that they overthrew the elected legitimate president of the country following policies of violence and intimidation against the population.”

"The former officer added that the influence of those Nazi groups in Ukraine has become so malicious as they threatened the former Ukrainian President, Petro Poroshenko, who was ready to recognize the special status of Donbas in 2015.

"He went on to say that a similar fate would have befallen to the current president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, had he not joined these groups to the Ukrainian forces and gave them free hand everywhere."
 
When and how did Ukraine acquire Crimea?

History of Crimea - Wikipedia

"In 1774, the Ottoman Empire was defeated by Catherine the Great.

"After two centuries of conflict, the Russian fleet had destroyed the Ottoman navy and the Russian army had inflicted heavy defeats on the Ottoman land forces.

"The ensuing Treaty of Küçük Kaynarca forced the Sublime Porte to recognize the Tatars of the Crimea as politically independent.

"Catherine the Great's incorporation of the Crimea in 1783 from the defeated Ottoman Empire into the Russian Empire increased Russia's power in the Black Sea area."

Not sure the point of what you've written.
 
Much much better? It’s not. It’s marginally better.
For the benefit of our fact challenged useful idiots:


So from 38% approval to 94% after invasion (aka MUCH MUCH better.)
 
That's about the same percentage Hitler earned in his first attempt at acquiring political power,

Ukrainian Nazis despise democracy and believe the only real power comes from the barrel of a gun.

Former US officer : We trained neo-Nazis in Ukraine

"Washington, SANA- Former Marine Corps intelligence officer, Scott Ritter, revealed that the US army trained the neo –Nazis in Ukraine contributing to their extending inside the state’s agencies.

"'US, British and Canadian armies trained neo-Nazis affiliated to Azov Battalion in Ukraine who later seized the power in the country' Ritter said in a meeting with Journalist George Galloway .

"Ritter asserted that foreign military units belonging to the US and the European Union, visited Ukraine to form extremist nationalist groups and after that they overthrew the elected legitimate president of the country following policies of violence and intimidation against the population.”

"The former officer added that the influence of those Nazi groups in Ukraine has become so malicious as they threatened the former Ukrainian President, Petro Poroshenko, who was ready to recognize the special status of Donbas in 2015.

"He went on to say that a similar fate would have befallen to the current president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, had he not joined these groups to the Ukrainian forces and gave them free hand everywhere."

Okay, and I don't see the point of this post either.
Try saying things relevant to this conversation. You don't need to prove they're Nazis... we both know there are a few Nazis in the Ukraine, in the US, in Russia, in France, in the UK. Let's move the conversation on from that.
 
That's about the same percentage Hitler earned in his first attempt at acquiring political power,

Ukrainian Nazis despise democracy and believe the only real power comes from the barrel of a gun.

Former US officer : We trained neo-Nazis in Ukraine

"Washington, SANA- Former Marine Corps intelligence officer, Scott Ritter, revealed that the US army trained the neo –Nazis in Ukraine contributing to their extending inside the state’s agencies.

"'US, British and Canadian armies trained neo-Nazis affiliated to Azov Battalion in Ukraine who later seized the power in the country' Ritter said in a meeting with Journalist George Galloway .

"Ritter asserted that foreign military units belonging to the US and the European Union, visited Ukraine to form extremist nationalist groups and after that they overthrew the elected legitimate president of the country following policies of violence and intimidation against the population.”

"The former officer added that the influence of those Nazi groups in Ukraine has become so malicious as they threatened the former Ukrainian President, Petro Poroshenko, who was ready to recognize the special status of Donbas in 2015.

"He went on to say that a similar fate would have befallen to the current president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, had he not joined these groups to the Ukrainian forces and gave them free hand everywhere."
The truth sometimes gets out. The USG as always is supporting mass murdering authoritarians. Disgusting!
 
Not sure the point of what you've written.
Don't worry, he doesn't know either.

He just found something about Crimea being part of Russian empire more than 200 years ago, so supposedly it is therefore their land forever.

Hitler was making the same claims about foreign lands Nazis annexed.
 

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