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[2aguy]

You said it doesn’t look too bad. I just quoted you, you lying sack of shit.

What changed?

Yeah...you didn't read the rest of the thread, you dumb ass.........

What changed? The Red Flag laws, you slow witted, stooge.......there is no way to make those right....the democrats are salivating at taking guns away from people using those laws, then forcing them to fight in court to get their guns back...

-go to a Trump rally, cops show up and take your guns

-go to a pro-life rally, cops show up and take your guns....

-show up at a protest against any democrat, cops show up and take your guns...

You idiot....

 

[berg80]

Theses Republicans helped the Democrats to diminish our Constitutional rights

Your constitutional rights, relative to the 2nd A, are whatever the majority of SC justices say they are at any given point in time. As of now the court is comprised of a majority who have a radical interpretation of the right of a regulated militia to possess muskets.
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The data comes from the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center at Texas State University, whose researchers work with the F.B.I. to catalog and examine these attacks. Unlike mass shooting tallies that count a minimum number of people shot or killed, the active attack data includes episodes with fewer casualties, but researchers exclude domestic shootings and gang-related attacks.

Researchers caution that some older attacks may be missing from the data, but they feel confident in their overall assessment that shootings are increasing. What is less clear is how to limit the damage of these attacks, given how quickly they unfold and how powerful the weapons used can be.

Most attacks captured in the data were already over before law enforcement arrived. People at the scene did intervene, sometimes shooting the attackers, but typically physically subduing them. But in about half of all cases, the attackers committed suicide or simply stopped shooting and fled.

“It’s direct, indisputable, empirical evidence that this kind of common claim that ‘the only thing that stops a bad guy with the gun is a good guy with the gun’ is wrong,” said Adam Lankford, a professor at the University of Alabama, who has studied mass shootings for more than a decade. “It’s demonstrably false, because often they are stopping themselves.”

Who Stops a ‘Bad Guy With a Gun’? (Published 2022)

A review of 433 active shooter attacks reveals that most are over before the police arrive. Bystanders sometimes stop attackers, but seldom shoot them.

www.nytimes.com

 

[2aguy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

No one is allowed to have a concealed carry permit on a military installation, the military doesn't even issue them. Weapons must be registered on base and either kept in the home or stored in the base armory. Generally, service members who live in military barracks are not allowed to keep weapons in their room at all.

The rules are guided by a 1993 Pentagon regulation that dictates that weapons on military bases are only allowed to be carried for official purposes like law enforcement or sentry duty, prohibiting “the carrying of non-Government owned or issued weapons or ammunition.”

So why does it in the military, where virtually everyone has training in using a firearm, knowledge of the principles of weapons safety, and many have practical experience in combat that outpaces most civilian law enforcement?

Why? Because they are a bunch of 18 and 19 year old immature kids!!!!!

And it is that rule that gave us the Fort Hood mass public shooting....when unarmed and defenseless soldiers were murdered by a muslim terrorist....

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yeah...you didn't read the rest of the thread, you dumb ass.........

What changed? The Red Flag laws, you slow witted, stooge.......there is no way to make those right....the democrats are salivating at taking guns away from people using those laws, then forcing them to fight in court to get their guns back...

-go to a Trump rally, cops show up and take your guns

-go to a pro-life rally, cops show up and take your guns....

-show up at a protest against any democrat, cops show up and take your guns...

You idiot....

You dumbass You moron. You flip-flopper.

You were fine with this bill before. And now you’re suddenly not. What a dumbass.

 

[2aguy]

Your constitutional rights, relative to the 2nd A, are whatever the majority of SC justices say they are at any given point in time. As of now the court is comprised of a majority who have a radical interpretation of the right of a regulated militia to possess muskets.
.............................................................................................................
The data comes from the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center at Texas State University, whose researchers work with the F.B.I. to catalog and examine these attacks. Unlike mass shooting tallies that count a minimum number of people shot or killed, the active attack data includes episodes with fewer casualties, but researchers exclude domestic shootings and gang-related attacks.

Researchers caution that some older attacks may be missing from the data, but they feel confident in their overall assessment that shootings are increasing. What is less clear is how to limit the damage of these attacks, given how quickly they unfold and how powerful the weapons used can be.

Most attacks captured in the data were already over before law enforcement arrived. People at the scene did intervene, sometimes shooting the attackers, but typically physically subduing them. But in about half of all cases, the attackers committed suicide or simply stopped shooting and fled.

“It’s direct, indisputable, empirical evidence that this kind of common claim that ‘the only thing that stops a bad guy with the gun is a good guy with the gun’ is wrong,” said Adam Lankford, a professor at the University of Alabama, who has studied mass shootings for more than a decade. “It’s demonstrably false, because often they are stopping themselves.”

Who Stops a ‘Bad Guy With a Gun’? (Published 2022)

A review of 433 active shooter attacks reveals that most are over before the police arrive. Bystanders sometimes stop attackers, but seldom shoot them.

www.nytimes.com

That is crap......you idiot.

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

BREAKING: Man Opens Fire At Oklahoma Walmart, Confronted By Armed Citizen, Report Says

Two people were killed at a Walmart in Oklahoma by a man who opened fire in the parking lot on Monday before turning the weapon on himself after an armed citizen confronted him.
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The assailant, who has not yet been identified, shot and killed a man and a woman in the parking lot and when he was “confronted by an armed citizen, he then turned the gun on himself,” The Daily Mail reported.

 

[2aguy]

You dumbass You moron. You flip-flopper.

You were fine with this bill before. And now you’re suddenly not. What a dumbass.

No...moron, I wasn't.....but keep lying, and cementing in all readers the knowledge that you are a liar.......

 

[sealybobo]

The police chief is a democrat...just about to join the town counsel....so yes, his political life intefered with his decision.

How do you know he's a Democrat? That would be odd. Most cops are Republicans.

Are you sure? Because the former chief of police in Detroit was running for governor as a Republican. A black man. I'm sure you would THINK he was a Democrat too but he's not. I can't find anything that suggests this cop is a Democrat.

 

[Desperado]

No...criminals did that.......criminals known to the government, and the government did nothing to arrest and jail them, or commit them.....two things which would prevent them from passing current, Federally mandated background checks....

These shootings are the failure of government........

It is because of traitors like these that the Democrats are running rampant over the Republicans. Need for them to state their true party.

 

[2aguy]

Your constitutional rights, relative to the 2nd A, are whatever the majority of SC justices say they are at any given point in time. As of now the court is comprised of a majority who have a radical interpretation of the right of a regulated militia to possess muskets.
.............................................................................................................
The data comes from the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center at Texas State University, whose researchers work with the F.B.I. to catalog and examine these attacks. Unlike mass shooting tallies that count a minimum number of people shot or killed, the active attack data includes episodes with fewer casualties, but researchers exclude domestic shootings and gang-related attacks.

Researchers caution that some older attacks may be missing from the data, but they feel confident in their overall assessment that shootings are increasing. What is less clear is how to limit the damage of these attacks, given how quickly they unfold and how powerful the weapons used can be.

Most attacks captured in the data were already over before law enforcement arrived. People at the scene did intervene, sometimes shooting the attackers, but typically physically subduing them. But in about half of all cases, the attackers committed suicide or simply stopped shooting and fled.

“It’s direct, indisputable, empirical evidence that this kind of common claim that ‘the only thing that stops a bad guy with the gun is a good guy with the gun’ is wrong,” said Adam Lankford, a professor at the University of Alabama, who has studied mass shootings for more than a decade. “It’s demonstrably false, because often they are stopping themselves.”

Who Stops a ‘Bad Guy With a Gun’? (Published 2022)

A review of 433 active shooter attacks reveals that most are over before the police arrive. Bystanders sometimes stop attackers, but seldom shoot them.

www.nytimes.com

Hey...doofus.....have your expert explain this....

The same week that a dozen or more police officers with body armor, and AR-15 rifles did not enter an unlocked classroom to save the lives of 19 children and 2 teachers..........a civilian woman....not a police officer, not a Navy SEAL....without body armor or a rifle of any kind...used her concealed carry pistol to stop another mass public shooter, who was also armed with an AR-15 rifle.....

Her pistol, and she stopped his attack..

Explain that......

West Virginia mass shooting stopped...

People like this West Virginia woman who stopped what could have become a mass shooting just a day after Uvalde.

Police said a woman who was lawfully carrying a pistol shot and killed a man who began shooting at a crowd of people Wednesday night in Charleston.
Dennis Butler was killed after allegedly shooting at dozens of people attending a graduation party Wednesday near the Vista View Apartment complex. No injuries were reported from those at the party.
Investigators said Butler was warned about speeding in the area with children present before he left. He later returned with an AR-15-style firearm and began firing into the crowd before he was shot and killed.
“Instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night,” Charleston Police Department Chief of Detectives Tony Hazelett said.
Officers did not go into detail, but said Butler did have an extensive criminal history.

West Virginia armed citizen stops potential mass shooting

 

[2aguy]

How do you know he's a Democrat? That would be odd. Most cops are Republicans.

Are you sure? Because the former chief of police in Detroit was running for governor as a Republican. A black man. I'm sure you would THINK he was a Democrat too but he's not. I can't find anything that suggests this cop is a Democrat.

It was stated that he supported beto O'rourke...and a lot of police management are democrats...especially in democrat party controlled cities...

 

[Desperado]

How do you know he's a Democrat? That would be odd. Most cops are Republicans.

Are you sure? Because the former chief of police in Detroit was running for governor as a Republican. A black man. I'm sure you would THINK he was a Democrat too but he's not. I can't find anything that suggests this cop is a Democrat.

How do you know he's a Democrat? Easy he stated that he is a Beto supporter.

 

[2aguy]

Your constitutional rights, relative to the 2nd A, are whatever the majority of SC justices say they are at any given point in time. As of now the court is comprised of a majority who have a radical interpretation of the right of a regulated militia to possess muskets.
.............................................................................................................
The data comes from the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center at Texas State University, whose researchers work with the F.B.I. to catalog and examine these attacks. Unlike mass shooting tallies that count a minimum number of people shot or killed, the active attack data includes episodes with fewer casualties, but researchers exclude domestic shootings and gang-related attacks.

Researchers caution that some older attacks may be missing from the data, but they feel confident in their overall assessment that shootings are increasing. What is less clear is how to limit the damage of these attacks, given how quickly they unfold and how powerful the weapons used can be.

Most attacks captured in the data were already over before law enforcement arrived. People at the scene did intervene, sometimes shooting the attackers, but typically physically subduing them. But in about half of all cases, the attackers committed suicide or simply stopped shooting and fled.

“It’s direct, indisputable, empirical evidence that this kind of common claim that ‘the only thing that stops a bad guy with the gun is a good guy with the gun’ is wrong,” said Adam Lankford, a professor at the University of Alabama, who has studied mass shootings for more than a decade. “It’s demonstrably false, because often they are stopping themselves.”

Who Stops a ‘Bad Guy With a Gun’? (Published 2022)

A review of 433 active shooter attacks reveals that most are over before the police arrive. Bystanders sometimes stop attackers, but seldom shoot them.

www.nytimes.com

Then you can explain this one......you can watch the video of the good guy with a gun shoot and kill the attacker with one shot......

A gunman who killed two people during a North Texas church service was fatally shot within seconds by the church's head of security who says he feels like he "killed an evil," not a human.

Jack Wilson, 71, posted on Facebook late Sunday night that he "had to take out an active shooter in church."

Wilson said he was head of security for the West Freeway Church of Christ and that he and other members of the church who were part of the congregation's volunteer security team were "not going to allow evil to succeed." Wilson in the past has owned a gun range, taught firearm safety, including members of the church's security team, and was a former Hood County reserve deputy.

Church's Head of Security Says He ‘Killed an Evil,' Not a Human in Taking Down Gunman

A gunman who killed two people during a North Texas church service was fatally shot within seconds by the church’s head of security who says he feels like he “killed an evil,” not a human. Jack Wilson, 71, posted on Facebook late Sunday night that he “had to take out an active shooter in...

www.nbcdfw.com

And a reserve deputy is no a full time deputy, they mostly help in crowd control during parades or hand out parking tickets...

 

[2aguy]

Your constitutional rights, relative to the 2nd A, are whatever the majority of SC justices say they are at any given point in time. As of now the court is comprised of a majority who have a radical interpretation of the right of a regulated militia to possess muskets.
.............................................................................................................
The data comes from the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center at Texas State University, whose researchers work with the F.B.I. to catalog and examine these attacks. Unlike mass shooting tallies that count a minimum number of people shot or killed, the active attack data includes episodes with fewer casualties, but researchers exclude domestic shootings and gang-related attacks.

Researchers caution that some older attacks may be missing from the data, but they feel confident in their overall assessment that shootings are increasing. What is less clear is how to limit the damage of these attacks, given how quickly they unfold and how powerful the weapons used can be.

Most attacks captured in the data were already over before law enforcement arrived. People at the scene did intervene, sometimes shooting the attackers, but typically physically subduing them. But in about half of all cases, the attackers committed suicide or simply stopped shooting and fled.

“It’s direct, indisputable, empirical evidence that this kind of common claim that ‘the only thing that stops a bad guy with the gun is a good guy with the gun’ is wrong,” said Adam Lankford, a professor at the University of Alabama, who has studied mass shootings for more than a decade. “It’s demonstrably false, because often they are stopping themselves.”

Who Stops a ‘Bad Guy With a Gun’? (Published 2022)

A review of 433 active shooter attacks reveals that most are over before the police arrive. Bystanders sometimes stop attackers, but seldom shoot them.

www.nytimes.com

Then explain this......this NRA instructor, with his privately owned, AR-15 rifle saved the lives of 25 people....by using his rifle to shoot at the mass public shooter...

You know, a good guy with a gun...

WATCH: TX Shooting Victim's Son Tells Mom's Story of Encountering Gunman


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'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

 

[sealybobo]

And it is that rule that gave us the Fort Hood mass public shooting....when unarmed and defenseless soldiers were murdered by a muslim terrorist....

Trust me, you'll have a lot more shootings if you arm all those young lads.

And don't argue with me. Argue with the top military brass. Republicans.

Same reason guns aren't allowed at the RNC.

 

[2aguy]

Trust me, you'll have a lot more shootings if you arm all those young lads.

And don't argue with me. Argue with the top military brass. Republicans.

Same reason guns aren't allowed at the RNC.

Liar....

But, outside of Secret Service jurisdiction, the city of Cleveland will follow state law regarding weapons when it comes to the event zone, which means someone could go into the part of the event zone not secured by the Secret Service with a firearm, confirmed Dan Williams, media relations director with the city.

Why Guns Won't Be Allowed at the Republican Convention

The Secret Service and the Quicken Loans Arena won't allow it.

time.com

 

[XponentialChaos]

No...moron, I wasn't.....

That’s a lie. I quoted you. You dumbass. You moron. You idiot.

“The proposed deal in the Senate on violating the Rights of Americans.....at first look, it doesn't seem like the democrats got the anti-gun laws they wanted.....but we may actually address the problems of mass public shooters....something that also hurts the democrats...since mass public shootings, in particular, school shootings, are their Christmas day.....

Doesn’t look too bad…”

 

[2aguy]

That’s a lie. I quoted you. You dumbass. You moron. You idiot.

“The proposed deal in the Senate on violating the Rights of Americans.....at first look, it doesn't seem like the democrats got the anti-gun laws they wanted.....but we may actually address the problems of mass public shooters....something that also hurts the democrats...since mass public shootings, in particular, school shootings, are their Christmas day.....

Doesn’t look too bad…”

How does that mean I support it, you moron?

What part addressed the problem of mass public shooters?

Mental health spending and arming and securing schools...you idiot....

 

[BluesLegend]

Breaking: Criminals and crazy people laugh at the new gun control laws.

 

[2aguy]

That’s a lie. I quoted you. You dumbass. You moron. You idiot.

“The proposed deal in the Senate on violating the Rights of Americans.....at first look, it doesn't seem like the democrats got the anti-gun laws they wanted.....but we may actually address the problems of mass public shooters....something that also hurts the democrats...since mass public shootings, in particular, school shootings, are their Christmas day.....

Doesn’t look too bad…”

From my thread.......

Prepare for gun grabber tears.... Senate anti-gun proposals don't seem to give them what they wanted.....good....I hope it stays that way...​

My post #138

The democrats have shown is they will weaponise any Red Flag laws

From my thread on the SWATTING of Tim Pool....

Red Flag Laws? Ask Tim Pool about the left and 9 SWAT events against him…​

My post #1

This is why we can’t do Red Flag Laws….Podcaster and independent journalist Tim Pool has been SWATed 9 times…..this is where a deranged leftist calls the police and states that there is a gunman at Tim’s location shooting people………they have done this 9 times.

Now imagine you give them the power to call the police and they can lie and say you are a threat and have guns……this gives the police the ability to just take your guns…and then, iyou have to hire a lawyer to get them back……….at your own expense……with a good chance the cops will never give them back…….

Sorry, the democrats and their insanity make it impossible to do anything….

 

[toobfreak]

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RINO CENTRAL! I think we all need to go RINO-Hunting! The Who's Who of RINOS---- I say these people ought to have all of their personal protection removed and all guns taken from their guards and homes! Practice what you preach, RINOs!