16 killed in "freedom flotilla"!

[Shai]

Sorry bout that,


Quote: Originally Posted by Shai
What do you mean i sound like a mole? I live here I support and love my country.
Is that a bad thing?


1. He's just messing with you.
2. He doesn't know what he means by mole either, and no one else does on top of that.
3. Sure, support your Country, I surely would, and do even though I don't live there.
4. And I also love your Country.
5. Its a good thing,.....


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Thanks





Quote: Originally Posted by PF Tinmore: The elected government of Palestine is running Gaza, It includes Hamas, Fatah, smaller parties, and independents. The chief of police in Gaza was Fatah along with about 3,000 officers. Four members of Fatah still sit on the PLC (parliament) in Gaza.

This is completely false Hamas run Gaza and the Fatah run the West Bank. Hamas and Fatah are Enemies!!! Fatah have the support of Israel; USA; Saudi Arabia;Egypt, Europe and ect... The popele who live in the West Bank have Education Opportunities, Jobs and etc.. Whille the Hamas have the support of Iran, Hizzballa, Turkish and etc...
You can agree or disagree with me about everything in this subject BUT this is a pact the only thing betweem Hamas and Fatah is HATE.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sorry bout that,


Quote: Originally Posted by Shai
What do you mean i sound like a mole? I live here I support and love my country.
Is that a bad thing?


1. He's just messing with you.
2. He doesn't know what he means by mole either, and no one else does on top of that.
3. Sure, support your Country, I surely would, and do even though I don't live there.
4. And I also love your Country.
5. Its a good thing,.....


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Thanks





Quote: Originally Posted by PF Tinmore: The elected government of Palestine is running Gaza, It includes Hamas, Fatah, smaller parties, and independents. The chief of police in Gaza was Fatah along with about 3,000 officers. Four members of Fatah still sit on the PLC (parliament) in Gaza.

This is completely false Hamas run Gaza and the Fatah run the West Bank. Hamas and Fatah are Enemies!!! Fatah have the support of Israel; USA; Saudi Arabia;Egypt, Europe and ect... The popele who live in the West Bank have Education Opportunities, Jobs and etc.. Whille the Hamas have the support of Iran, Hizzballa, Turkish and etc...
You can agree or disagree with me about everything in this subject BUT this is a pact the only thing betweem Hamas and Fatah is HATE.

If you would check this out you will find that I am correct. You have been grossly misinformed. You were told that Hamas had a coup in Gaza and that is not true.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utKgXMedqpk]YouTube - American Sabotage of Palestinian Democracy[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72ai-Udti1M]YouTube - On The Map with Avi Lewis: Gaza Coup d'Etat?[/ame]

 

[Shai]

From what i understand those video are not new, maybe im worng BUT this is not an argument "i said you said" the FACT is that Hamas and the Fatah are ENEMIES!!!! Not political enemies, ememies when Hamas KILL the Fatah members!!!!
Hamas control Gaza while Fatah control the West Bank. Ask anyone with real knowledge not form the media.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWPL5V5G528]YouTube - Hamas gangs kill Fatah members in Gaza[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHM83-EifLA]YouTube - Hamas[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOPfia8Dx5k]YouTube - Hamas wanted to kill him; Israeli saved his life[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_AX1b3YD00]YouTube - GAZA - The War Hamas vs Fatah. never seen Must Watch!!! HAMAS KILLING CIVILIANS IN GAZA[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

From what i understand those video are not new, maybe im worng BUT this is not an argument "i said you said" the FACT is that Hamas and the Fatah are ENEMIES!!!! Not political enemies, ememies when Hamas KILL the Fatah members!!!!
Hamas control Gaza while Fatah control the West Bank. Ask anyone with real knowledge not form the media.


YouTube - Hamas gangs kill Fatah members in Gaza
YouTube - Hamas
YouTube - Hamas wanted to kill him; Israeli saved his life
YouTube - GAZA - The War Hamas vs Fatah. never seen Must Watch!!! HAMAS KILLING CIVILIANS IN GAZA

The videos you posted do not necessarily conflict with what I said. There is a part of Fatah, Abbas and his followers, who have sold out to Israel and the US. All the money and weapons are provided to them. They are supposed to provide "security" and "restore law and order." That is a euphemism for taking out any resistance to the occupation in general and Hamas in particular. These US armed, paid, and trained forces (look for the names Dahlan and General Keith Dayton) were employed in Gaza to take over the elected government and put the losers (Fatah) back in power. That takeover failed leaving the elected government in power in Gaza. The part of Fatah that was involved in this attack was routed. The Fatah members who were not involved were given amnesty from Hamas the day after the "coup." There still are members of Fatah in Gaza who are trying to destabilize the government and spy for Israel and those are the ones under attack by the government and Hamas. There are other Fatah members who are loyal to Palestine and they are still active in the government in Gaza. I mentioned the four PLC member who still hold their seats in Gaza.

The Gaza Bombshell
After failing to anticipate Hamas’s victory over Fatah in the 2006 Palestinian election, the White House cooked up yet another scandalously covert and self-defeating Middle East debacle: part Iran-contra, part Bay of Pigs. With confidential documents, corroborated by outraged former and current U.S. officials, the author reveals how President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.
by David Rose

The Gaza Bombshell | Politics | Vanity Fair

 

[Shai]

From what i understand those video are not new, maybe im worng BUT this is not an argument "i said you said" the FACT is that Hamas and the Fatah are ENEMIES!!!! Not political enemies, ememies when Hamas KILL the Fatah members!!!!
Hamas control Gaza while Fatah control the West Bank. Ask anyone with real knowledge not form the media.


YouTube - Hamas gangs kill Fatah members in Gaza
YouTube - Hamas
YouTube - Hamas wanted to kill him; Israeli saved his life
YouTube - GAZA - The War Hamas vs Fatah. never seen Must Watch!!! HAMAS KILLING CIVILIANS IN GAZA

The videos you posted do not necessarily conflict with what I said. There is a part of Fatah, Abbas and his followers, who have sold out to Israel and the US. All the money and weapons are provided to them. They are supposed to provide "security" and "restore law and order." That is a euphemism for taking out any resistance to the occupation in general and Hamas in particular. These US armed, paid, and trained forces (look for the names Dahlan and General Keith Dayton) were employed in Gaza to take over the elected government and put the losers (Fatah) back in power. That takeover failed leaving the elected government in power in Gaza. The part of Fatah that was involved in this attack was routed. The Fatah members who were not involved were given amnesty from Hamas the day after the "coup." There still are members of Fatah in Gaza who are trying to destabilize the government and spy for Israel and those are the ones under attack by the government and Hamas. There are other Fatah members who are loyal to Palestine and they are still active in the government in Gaza. I mentioned the four PLC member who still hold their seats in Gaza.

The Gaza Bombshell
After failing to anticipate Hamas’s victory over Fatah in the 2006 Palestinian election, the White House cooked up yet another scandalously covert and self-defeating Middle East debacle: part Iran-contra, part Bay of Pigs. With confidential documents, corroborated by outraged former and current U.S. officials, the author reveals how President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.
by David Rose

The Gaza Bombshell | Politics | Vanity Fair

I apologize in front if what i'm going to say sound rude not my intention but your post have nothing to do with reality. I have no idea were you live but i strongly suggest you to go to the near UNI and ask some professor who teach Middle East program about that.

Plus according to you if as a Palestine you want to live in peace with Israel or if you a Plestine leader who want noting to do with Iran AKA Hamas AKA terror and you provide your people education opportunities, good jobs and etc.. thats mean that you "sold out you pepole" but if you use pepole as a human shield, sent them to suicide mission, hide wapen in kindergartens while you sit comfortable and safe in Damesek - that mean you loyal to them.

As a human bean regardless of my religion, the place i live in, my skin color or whatever you think define me as a person i feel sad that someone somewere think like that.
I have no idea were you live but since i wish everyone in earth peace love and good life i hope that your leaders "sold you out" and they not "loyal to you".

 

[skookerasbil]

As I expected, the freedom flotilla was bombed:
16 humanitarians killed , incredible

Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

Only a mental case calls that a "freedom flotilla"............oh, and theres lots of them on these forums!!!!


FCUKK THAT!!!!!


Next time, they should just put the damn flotilla on the bottom of the Mediterranien Sea FTW!!!!!!


Personally............there are hundreds of millions who would get a rush from the video footage!!!!

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. Like I said many times, ayabs are a blood thirsty lot, always have been and always will be, I don't trust any ayab.
2. They hate each other across town as much as they do anyone else Jews included.
3. Its a sad fact.
4. Shai I know how hard it is to live in that, but you hang in there old buddy, I am pulling for you and the Jews of Israel.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[Shai]

freedom flotilla ? ? Look at the pictures that turkey was proud to release. First time i see "peace activitie" act like that:
Turkish paper releases 'censored' photos of beaten Israeli commandos - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/g.php

 

[LANMaster]

As I expected, the freedom flotilla was bombed:
16 humanitarians killed , incredible

Hiya Freeman! I hope that you are well.

I'm sure by now you have revised your remarks in this thread to correct your factual errors.

It was 9 killed, there were no bombs, they weren't humanitarians, and the flotilla was seeking confrontation and martyrdom.

Just making sure you have the intellectual honesty to set the record straight on the above FACTS.

 

[Jack Fate]

Israel does not want what Hamas has to say to be let loose in public.

So Israel is trying to isolate Hamas by the blockade to prevent them from speaking in public. LOL.

How old are you?

Cast Lead.
Palestinian deaths 1400
Israeli deaths 13

Israel is afraid Hamas will take their bottle rockets and small arms and wipe Israel off the Map.

Not!

So why has Israel put egg on its face several times just to keep Hamas down? The US has spent hundreds of million dollars to do the same.

The threat must be real. What is it?

You forgot to mention suicide bombers. Why do you condone suicide bombers, firing rockets and using small arms against Israel?

 

[Jack Fate]

No, but to merely spout Israel's standard list of lies will get you nowhere. The best thing you could do for your country is to get those freaks out of your government.

and what about the lies you spout?
The best thing you can do is realize that Israel has a right to defend itself and to quit manufacturing a humanitarian crisis where none exists or if it does exist, it's as a result of some pent up desire for revenge. Time to move on.

Israel has not yet won the war it started with Palestine in 1947. We can move on after that war is over.

Aret you going to go over there and join the Pals and fight?

 

[CurveLight]

and what about the lies you spout?
The best thing you can do is realize that Israel has a right to defend itself and to quit manufacturing a humanitarian crisis where none exists or if it does exist, it's as a result of some pent up desire for revenge. Time to move on.

Israel has not yet won the war it started with Palestine in 1947. We can move on after that war is over.

Aret you going to go over there and join the Pals and fight?

You must be curious about what it looks like to stand behind convictions and follow through with actions.

 

[CMike]

Rather silly since she didn't expect to be killed. She was just stupid.

 

[CurveLight]

and what about the lies you spout?
The best thing you can do is realize that Israel has a right to defend itself and to quit manufacturing a humanitarian crisis where none exists or if it does exist, it's as a result of some pent up desire for revenge. Time to move on.

Israel has not yet won the war it started with Palestine in 1947. We can move on after that war is over.

Aret you going to go over there and join the Pals and fight?

Rather silly since she didn't expect to be killed. She was just stupid.

She died fighting for what she believed in. Helping other people. Of course a self righteous jackass like you would think that is stoopid. You can't muster a fraction of the courage for what that takes.

 

[skookerasbil]

Hey............perhaps next time Israel will get smart and just torpedo the Ship of Subhumans................


Now if they got video of that it'd be a hoot!!!

You'd have hundreds of million of people pulling up a chair to their TV's for the 6 O'Clock news, tall beer in hand and perhaps a few chips!!!

 

[CMike]

Hitler died fighting for what he believed in too.

He was still evil.

 

[CurveLight]

Hitler died fighting for what he believed in too.

He was still evil.

You're pure waste. What kind of a sick fuck compares the dead victims to hitler? They were taking medicine and other life saving equipment to civilians you pathetic useless punk.

 

[Jack Fate]

Hitler died fighting for what he believed in too.

He was still evil.

You're pure waste. What kind of a sick fuck compares the dead victims to hitler? They were taking medicine and other life saving equipment to civilians you pathetic useless punk.

It's pretty stupid to think I can stop a military operation by simply getting in their way. She was young and naive. That's not Israel's fault.

 

[CurveLight]

Hitler died fighting for what he believed in too.

He was still evil.

You're pure waste. What kind of a sick fuck compares the dead victims to hitler? They were taking medicine and other life saving equipment to civilians you pathetic useless punk.

It's pretty stupid to think I can stop a military operation by simply getting in their way. She was young and naive. That's not Israel's fault.

You don't know history very well. Israel murdered unarmed people and you are defending it. Fucking hypocrite.

 

[Jack Fate]

You're pure waste. What kind of a sick fuck compares the dead victims to hitler? They were taking medicine and other life saving equipment to civilians you pathetic useless punk.

It's pretty stupid to think I can stop a military operation by simply getting in their way. She was young and naive. That's not Israel's fault.

You don't know history very well. Israel murdered unarmed people and you are defending it. Fucking hypocrite.

Muslim fascists murder people every day and you defend it.

Defending your nation is not "murder". Terrorism is murder. Fucking pusillanimous pissant prarie punk.
You're confused.