18 Little-Known Gun Facts That Prove That Guns Make Us Safer

[gallantwarrior]

And they want to "integrate" these animals into decent suburban neighborhoods.

 

[Dutch]

I know alot of people who own guns and I know alot of people who do not own guns. Out of the people I know who own guns there has been three suicides, one murder, and some idiot who shot himself in the foot.

 

[Missourian]

US Homicides in 2007: 14,831

Expanded Homicide Data Table 1 - Crime in the United States 2007
Homicides in England in 2007: 921

First multiply the 921 by 5 to even out the popultation difference:

You then get: 4,605. Still 3.2 times less than the US, but still not the 16.1 times difference you are tying to imply.

When you have to fudge numbers right off the bat to make a point, it makes you look silly.

Thanks for the correction. We have over 10,000 more murders than England on a per capita basis then, right?

Now let's compare American suicide rates to Japanese suicide rates.

Or American Murder rate to Mexico, or Russia.

We aren't the U.K. and we are not Japan.

Nor are we Mexico or Russia.

Cross cultural comparisons are relatively worthless.

Let's compare ourselves to ourselves 10 years ago.

 

[The T]

By Michael Snyder, on August 11th, 2013

The American people deserve to know the truth about gun control.* Passing strict gun control laws will not make us all safer.* In fact, as you will read about below, even a study conducted at Harvard found that the more guns a nation has the less crime it tends to have.* In other words, there is a very strong positive correlation between more guns and less crime.* This is the exact opposite of what the mainstream media would have us believe, but it makes sense.* You see, the reality is that criminals really, really, really don’t want to get shot.* When you pass strict gun control laws, you take the fear of getting shot away and criminals tend to flourish. …

More of this disturbing-to-Libtards article @ 18 Little-Known Gun Facts That Prove That Guns Make Us Safer

Here are the first three [with links thank you ]”

#1 Over the past 20 years, gun sales have absolutely exploded, but homicides with firearms are down 39 percent during that time and “other crimes with firearms” are down 69 percent.

#2 A study published in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy discovered that nations that have more guns tend to have less crime.

#3 The nine European nations with the lowest rate of gun ownership rate have a combined murder rate that is three times greater than the nine European nation with the highest rate of gun ownership.

Now, try refuting them!

Good thread. In my thought? The Second Amendment exists for a reason. Deterrence. You don't know whom is armed and therefore keeps criminals at bay.

Even criminals in our own Government that wish to legislate that which they have no right to legislate as the second is quite clear and they know it. The ultimate reason for the second is among the original Amendments was prescisely to keep in check those we elect to keep them from becoming tyrannical as the people needed recourse.

Don't like the second? Don't run for office, and if you do? Bear in mind NOT to become a tyrant. If you press on and refuse to listen...our last recourse is to take you out by force of militia. Our elected know this. Thus their push to legislate it out.

The ONLY way to take out the second is by Constitutional Convention, and alter/repeal it. (That takes heart/ giant balls and they won't...they don't have the guts to...they know it will cost them their jobs They instead tend to nibble away at it, albeit futile as the Second is quite clear in language).

The Founders were very clear as to purpose through the Federalists, and the Supreme Court has also bolstered the point.

SHAME places as Great Britain, and others don't have such a Constitution. For if they did we wouldn't be here discussing this.

 

[candycorn]

First multiply the 921 by 5 to even out the popultation difference:

You then get: 4,605. Still 3.2 times less than the US, but still not the 16.1 times difference you are tying to imply.

When you have to fudge numbers right off the bat to make a point, it makes you look silly.

Thanks for the correction. We have over 10,000 more murders than England on a per capita basis then, right?

Now let's compare American suicide rates to Japanese suicide rates.

Or American Murder rate to Mexico, or Russia.

We aren't the U.K. and we are not Japan.

Nor are we Mexico or Russia.

Cross cultural comparisons are relatively worthless.

Let's compare ourselves to ourselves 10 years ago.

The article in the OP selected England...I'm playing the cards I'm dealt. We had, and I was corrected on this, 10,000 more homicides than England did in 2007. Sorry but that is the adjusted figure.

Maybe we should compare ourselves to other advanced nations so we can see what they are doing right and what we seem to be doing wrong.

 

[jgarden]

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months
November 26, 2011

Windsor, Ontario, has its first homicide since September 2009
Police there say tough gun laws are a factor in the low number of homicides
Across the river, Detroit sees almost one homicide a day

(CNN) -- In his 60 years, Arnold Blaine has known only two people who've owned a gun: one a hunter, the other a nightclub owner.

"We don't even have gun shops," said the Windsor, Ontario, business owner.

The paucity of guns is one of three factors police in the city across the river from Detroit cite for its low homicide rate. The 25-year average for homicides is about 5.24 a year.

Thursday, Windsor reported its first homicide since late September 2009. A 30-year-old faces a murder charge in the stabbing of a 40-year-old acquaintance. Police are still looking for the weapon, and the killing is not believed to be drug-related, spokesman Sgt. Brett Corey said.

In Detroit, home to about 713,000 people last year, homicides occur nearly once a day.

People in his city of about 215,000 have a saying, Blaine said Friday afternoon: "In Windsor, when a 7-Eleven is held up, it usually is a knife. In Detroit, it is an Uzi."

..... Unlike the United States, Canada has very strict federal gun-ownership laws.

"You can own a handgun here if you have a purpose for it," the police spokesman said. "The main purpose is for target and sport shooting."

Many illicit guns bound for other Canadian cities, including Toronto, come through this border city. Most are made in the United States, Windsor police said.

"What we find is those weapons often have serial numbers filed off," Corey said. "It makes it very difficult to trace them."

According to the FBI, Detroit had 310 homicides in 2010, a drop from 2009. The police department's website indicates that the 2010 number was 268, but it acknowledges the 2011 tally will be much higher. Earlier this week, it stood at 309, according to the website.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/25/world/americas/canada-windsor-first-homicide

How does the OP's "Guns Make Us Safer" motto explain why Windsor Ontario, with its strict gun laws, is a far safer community than its America counterpart across the Detroit River?

It isn't as if Windsor was isolated from Detroit - they are connected by the Ambassador Bridge, the busiest international border crossing in North America in terms of trade volume, which accounts for more than 25% of all merchandise trade between the United States and Canada.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months
November 26, 2011

Windsor, Ontario, has its first homicide since September 2009
Police there say tough gun laws are a factor in the low number of homicides
Across the river, Detroit sees almost one homicide a day

(CNN) -- In his 60 years, Arnold Blaine has known only two people who've owned a gun: one a hunter, the other a nightclub owner.

"We don't even have gun shops," said the Windsor, Ontario, business owner.

The paucity of guns is one of three factors police in the city across the river from Detroit cite for its low homicide rate. The 25-year average for homicides is about 5.24 a year.

Thursday, Windsor reported its first homicide since late September 2009. A 30-year-old faces a murder charge in the stabbing of a 40-year-old acquaintance. Police are still looking for the weapon, and the killing is not believed to be drug-related, spokesman Sgt. Brett Corey said.

In Detroit, home to about 713,000 people last year, homicides occur nearly once a day.

People in his city of about 215,000 have a saying, Blaine said Friday afternoon: "In Windsor, when a 7-Eleven is held up, it usually is a knife. In Detroit, it is an Uzi."

..... Unlike the United States, Canada has very strict federal gun-ownership laws.

"You can own a handgun here if you have a purpose for it," the police spokesman said. "The main purpose is for target and sport shooting."

Many illicit guns bound for other Canadian cities, including Toronto, come through this border city. Most are made in the United States, Windsor police said.

"What we find is those weapons often have serial numbers filed off," Corey said. "It makes it very difficult to trace them."

According to the FBI, Detroit had 310 homicides in 2010, a drop from 2009. The police department's website indicates that the 2010 number was 268, but it acknowledges the 2011 tally will be much higher. Earlier this week, it stood at 309, according to the website.

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months - CNN.com

How does the OP's "Guns Make Us Safer" motto explain why Windsor Ontario, with its strict gun laws, is a far safer community than its America counterpart across the Detroit River?

Guns don't make us safer and saying they do is just nonsense.

 

[martybegan]

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months
November 26, 2011

Windsor, Ontario, has its first homicide since September 2009
Police there say tough gun laws are a factor in the low number of homicides
Across the river, Detroit sees almost one homicide a day

(CNN) -- In his 60 years, Arnold Blaine has known only two people who've owned a gun: one a hunter, the other a nightclub owner.

"We don't even have gun shops," said the Windsor, Ontario, business owner.

The paucity of guns is one of three factors police in the city across the river from Detroit cite for its low homicide rate. The 25-year average for homicides is about 5.24 a year.

Thursday, Windsor reported its first homicide since late September 2009. A 30-year-old faces a murder charge in the stabbing of a 40-year-old acquaintance. Police are still looking for the weapon, and the killing is not believed to be drug-related, spokesman Sgt. Brett Corey said.

In Detroit, home to about 713,000 people last year, homicides occur nearly once a day.

People in his city of about 215,000 have a saying, Blaine said Friday afternoon: "In Windsor, when a 7-Eleven is held up, it usually is a knife. In Detroit, it is an Uzi."

..... Unlike the United States, Canada has very strict federal gun-ownership laws.

"You can own a handgun here if you have a purpose for it," the police spokesman said. "The main purpose is for target and sport shooting."

Many illicit guns bound for other Canadian cities, including Toronto, come through this border city. Most are made in the United States, Windsor police said.

"What we find is those weapons often have serial numbers filed off," Corey said. "It makes it very difficult to trace them."

According to the FBI, Detroit had 310 homicides in 2010, a drop from 2009. The police department's website indicates that the 2010 number was 268, but it acknowledges the 2011 tally will be much higher. Earlier this week, it stood at 309, according to the website.

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months - CNN.com

How does the OP's "Guns Make Us Safer" motto explain why Windsor Ontario, with its strict gun laws, is a far safer community than its America counterpart across the Detroit River?

It isn't as if Windsor was isolated from Detroit - they are connected by the Ambassador Bridge, the busiest international border crossing in North America in terms of trade volume, which accounts for more than 25% of all merchandise trade between the United States and Canada.

How about why DC, with its strict gun laws, is far less safer than Washington DC, and there isn't even a river with a toll bridge between them?

I don't think its truck drivers doing the shootings in Detroit.

 

[jgarden]

How about why DC, with its strict gun laws, is far less safer than Washington DC, and there isn't even a river with a toll bridge between them?

I don't think its truck drivers doing the shootings in Detroit.

How many states which allow easy access to firearms and automatic weapons are within a few hours drive from Washington DC?

Given that there are no guards at the borders, strict gun laws are meaningless.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The CDC report on gun violence that was ordered by Obama showed that between 1.5 and 3 million times each year people used their own guns to prevent or stop crime - most often without firing a shot.
That is between 4110 and 8419 crimes aborted each and every day in the US because law abiding citizens are armed and able to protect themselves.

If I wanted to really injure people I would want to ban guns too!
Just think by restricting guns and ammo you could make up to 3 million more victims each year.

It sucks when the facts go against you, I bet Obama wishes he had a time machine.

 

[Politico]

You Leftytoons are hilarious.....idiots.

 

[westwall]

US Homicides in 2007: 14,831

Expanded Homicide Data Table 1 - Crime in the United States 2007
Homicides in England in 2007: 921

First multiply the 921 by 5 to even out the popultation difference:

You then get: 4,605. Still 3.2 times less than the US, but still not the 16.1 times difference you are tying to imply.

When you have to fudge numbers right off the bat to make a point, it makes you look silly.

Thanks for the correction. We have over 10,000 more murders than England on a per capita basis then, right?

And if you remove the murders from Detroit, Chicago, DC and New Orleans (all Democrat controlled) we have far less than the UK on a per capita rate..

 

[candycorn]

First multiply the 921 by 5 to even out the popultation difference:

You then get: 4,605. Still 3.2 times less than the US, but still not the 16.1 times difference you are tying to imply.

When you have to fudge numbers right off the bat to make a point, it makes you look silly.

Thanks for the correction. We have over 10,000 more murders than England on a per capita basis then, right?

And if you remove the murders from Detroit, Chicago, DC and New Orleans (all Democrat controlled) we have far less than the UK on a per capita rate..

Link...

 

[Geaux4it]

America will never be disarmed. When will they learn?

Let's see what bill comes next that will get shoved up Obama's ass

-Geaux