2 year old taken by alligator at Disney

[Ame®icano]

Disney has announced it is closing all it's beaches out of an abundance of caution.

They're missing a good opportunity to have gator hunting safaris.

Now they're going to kill all alligators around the area.
Kinda wrong to blame the whole species for the action of one gator.

#GatorLivesMatter

Yes I know. I was being a smart ass. I believe Disney should have had warning signs, probably didn't because it might tarnish the fantasy world they sell and I also believe people should do a bit of research when they go to unfamiliar places. Alligators just do what alligators do.

Then we should also have signs when entering city ghettos. Because blacks just do what blacks do.

 

[2aguy]

Just discussed this....

Had the parents had concealed pistols.....they could have shot the animal and possibly saved the child.....since they actually wrestled with the animal and lost, 15 rounds of 9 mm in it's pea brain would have stopped the attack....

 

[Ame®icano]

Mods f*kin' up my thread. This was about all the events in Orlando; not just the gator. Who is that scared of "duplicate" threads. Fuck. Stop wiping away individuality.

First time ever I agreed with you. Thread merges suck.

Why not the same treatment for all the Trump threads.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Alligator stew is not a bad idea.

Alligator Stew Recipe

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

May God in heaven comfort these parents in their sadness. My heart goes out to them. Prayers...

 

[Ava]

I despise Disney, but this is entirely on the parents.

Totally on negligent parenting. You don't, for a minute, let a two-year old near any water's edge without holding onto them in some way.

 

[charwin95]

Should Disney be required to post signs that there may be snakes coyotes, and spiders on it's property?

WillowTree There should be a general warning of wild animals and to enter at your own risk. And not to feed or make contact, similar to a zoo. A special warning to people and parents not to walk pets or small children near water if alligators are a risk.

. Exactly... I mean these people were from Nebraska... There are no Gators in Nebraska, so these people had no prior experience with such an animal as that. They were completely in Disney's care while they were there, and Disney blew it. Can you imagine what these people are going through now ? Horrible situation it is. When people travel to areas like this, the assumption by the host should be that these people have got to be prepared for our area, and so they should be going through an orientation that educates them on the dangers and risk involved while here. Then the family can enjoy a happy safe vacation free from predators that might sneak up and pounce.

So you think all Nebraskans are totally unaware that alligators live in Fla.?

Maybe........ Maybe not.
Here in Florida you might think people know the danger of playing or swimming in a pond.

 

[Fang]

Orlando is not too far from FSU where the Gators rule.

The Gators are Florida, not FSU. Tallahassee is far from Orlando.

They were having "Outdoor Movie Night" on that beach.

That's about as irresponsible as it gets. Alligators feed at night mostly, and are more active then. Especially in June. And they DID have an attack there before - 30 years ago. Now they've had 2 in the last 30 years.It's not many, but with the stakes this high, they should have been prepared, not having an Outdoor Movie Night.

I could just imagine what their boardroom discussions must have sounded like. Everything geared to bringing in more customers, making them more comfortable and happy, and making more money.....not a word about public safety.

This is a problem with our society. We have one set of irresponsible and stupid parents, so everybody has to suffer? I think not. What's next, we're all going to live in bubbles?

Also gators aren't really all that dangerous if you show them respect. I've lived in Florida for 30 years-and never once have I ever been anywhere close to being attacked by a gator.

The problem with society is the incredible amount of insensitivity and arrogance in your post.

For starters, these parents just lost a child. Furthermore, they had to watch this predator take their child literally out of their hands. Don't you think they are suffering enough now without the arm chair QBs on the internet telling them how "stupid" they are.

Secondly, you, who've lived in Florida for 30 years, don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that people from somewhere else in the world might not understand Florida wildlife?

Lastly, how exactly are you going to be make to "suffer" if Disney has to put signs up warning about the wildlife, or if Disney has to close their fake beaches that go no where anyway? What these parents are feeling today is "suffering" and they will feel it for the rest of their lives. What you're feeling is annoyance at tourists who had the audacity to not know what you know about your state of 30 years while visiting the kid friendly Magic Kingdom, and they paid for it with their child's life.

And if you're right that tourists are stupid for not knowing that alligators have the potential to be in every body of water in Florida and not just the everglades, then I'll double down on that and say how stupid is it that Disney follows up to the stupidity by building a man-made lake, inviting beaches and chairs right next to it and plenty of distractions without a single warning about alligators?

 

[Fang]

I despise Disney, but this is entirely on the parents.

I disagree.

The parents were completely blameless. They were not properly warned about the presence of gators in the lake and all the blame for the child's death falls upon Disney World.

When I saw the “no swimming please” sign I actually laughed out loud. I have reviewed hundreds of cases involving warning labels, and this sign didn't come close to putting anyone on notice of a possible gator attack. Besides, the child was wading, not swimming, so the sign was meaningless. Swimming could have been prohibited for a number of reasons, which would have had no effect on waders (contaminated water for example). Even if the child had been swimming the sign gave no indication that this created a potentially life threatening situation. It could have been nothing more than a park rule designed to maintain a certain atmosphere. I would argue that the word “please” implies neither a warning nor a demand but merely a request. Disney World had an absolute obligation to warn their guests of any known dangers. They knew there were gators in the lake and were legally obligated to provide adequate warning of this danger. The silly “no swimming please” sign gave no warning whatsoever.

The parents are completely blameless. Merely wading in a few inches of water at the edge of a lake poses no immediate danger of any kind to the child. It's not like wading in the ocean where a wave can knock a child over and carry him into deeper water within seconds. The parents were close enough to the child that the father was able to grab hold of the gator before the child vanished from sight. The parents will sue and Disney World will have to dig deep into their pockets. I would be shocked if the case went to trial since Disney has no legitimate defense and the adverse publicity of a trial would not be in their best interest. My best guess: an out of court settlement in excess of $10 million. It could be a helluva lot more.

Let's say they had a sign warning about gators, and a snake killed the kid, would Disney be responsible then? What do we need a laundry list of all of the potentially dangerous wildlife one a sign for people?

I stayed at the Four Seasons near Sea World and they had signs on the edge of their lake about the potential of all wild life in and near the water. The signs were short and to the point and were clear to stay away from the water. A "No Swimming Please" sign is a joke.

 

[BlueGin]

LIBS ACTING like they care about a kid, one kid when a million per year are murdered and they defend it.

Exactly. They just want to trash Disney.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

It was completely intact. A blessing that they won't have to go through life thinking he had been eaten.

Alligators can't chew. They hide their prey until it is significantly decomposed. When it's syrupy they can eat it.

That's disgusting!

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

ABC News video confirms my previous post, the sign only says no swimming. I wonder how many people are aware of alligators that can come to shore in this phony little paradise they pay so much to visit? Disney's liability insurance just went through the roof. And ticket prices will go next

Who in thier right mind would have venue such as this with live gators lurking around? I hope they sue the shit out of this over priced hell hole.

If they had spent a small fraction of the money they will have to pay the parents, a small fraction to aggressively control the alligators 100%, the child would still be alive.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Anybody with a brain cell would stay out of the water when there is a no swimming sign.

There are a lot of people going there. It is a matter of time until someone ignores the sign or maybe doesn't notice it.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Family of four are from Nebraska and there are no gator in Nebraska except at the zoo. I don't think this family is aware the danger playing near the pond at night here in Florida.
In my entire life in 2 occasions I stopped at the highway screaming at people get out of the water because of alligator. Guess what? these are tourists. I will not be surprise if this family will sue Disney.

Yea, I was wondering why nobody yelled at them to get out of the water. They must have been in the water for quite awhile.

 

[WillowTree]

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Family of four are from Nebraska and there are no gator in Nebraska except at the zoo. I don't think this family is aware the danger playing near the pond at night here in Florida.
In my entire life in 2 occasions I stopped at the highway screaming at people get out of the water because of alligator. Guess what? these are tourists. I will not be surprise if this family will sue Disney.

Yea, I was wondering why nobody yelled at them to get out of the water. They must have been in the water for quite awhile.

Disney will be sued for not having an alligator sign but those will be ignored too.



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[WillowTree]

Uh oh! Was there a sign saying don't fuck with the buffalo?

 

[Katzndogz]

If one person on that beach had a gun. Different outcome.

 

[Picaro]

I despise Disney, but this is entirely on the parents.

I disagree.

The parents were completely blameless. They were not properly warned about the presence of gators in the lake and all the blame for the child's death falls upon Disney World.

When I saw the “no swimming please” sign I actually laughed out loud. I have reviewed hundreds of cases involving warning labels, and this sign didn't come close to putting anyone on notice of a possible gator attack. Besides, the child was wading, not swimming, so the sign was meaningless. Swimming could have been prohibited for a number of reasons, which would have had no effect on waders (contaminated water for example). Even if the child had been swimming the sign gave no indication that this created a potentially life threatening situation. It could have been nothing more than a park rule designed to maintain a certain atmosphere. I would argue that the word “please” implies neither a warning nor a demand but merely a request. Disney World had an absolute obligation to warn their guests of any known dangers. They knew there were gators in the lake and were legally obligated to provide adequate warning of this danger. The silly “no swimming please” sign gave no warning whatsoever.

The parents are completely blameless. Merely wading in a few inches of water at the edge of a lake poses no immediate danger of any kind to the child. It's not like wading in the ocean where a wave can knock a child over and carry him into deeper water within seconds. The parents were close enough to the child that the father was able to grab hold of the gator before the child vanished from sight. The parents will sue and Disney World will have to dig deep into their pockets. I would be shocked if the case went to trial since Disney has no legitimate defense and the adverse publicity of a trial would not be in their best interest. My best guess: an out of court settlement in excess of $10 million. It could be a helluva lot more.

lol... go chase an ambulance.

 

[Picaro]

?
I thought there were laws or rule against soliciting business; clients have to contact lawyers, not the other way. Only when they are agreed to be their representation can they communicate back and forth. Lawyers aren't supposed to solicit other people's clients either.

Really? Then what are all those TV commercials and mass mailings lawyers run every day? Are they selling cookies?

I agree with you about the McDonald's case, but this is nothing like that. Baht Disney park has been around for decades, and it was posted. The semantic spin is just ridiculous that they should have had a list of every possible hazard, when the sing they had covered every possibility related to going in the water. No one can ever post enough signage to prevent Stupid Human Tricks.

Great point. For every drug on the market some shyster lawyer has a class action lawsuit against the maker.

Lightning strikes also happen on beaches, don't forget that! And, and , it's possible to stumble and choke yourself on a jawbreaker when walking on sand, too! Have to have that on your signs, OR ELSE!!!!

 

[saveliberty]

Can't we just post a sign facing the lake that has a person with a red slash through him? I mean make the alligators partially responsible.