20% of Trump Supporters "disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves"

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Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves

Question 49

5% of people strongly disapprove of freeing the slaves.

8% slightly disapprove.

Isn't that just a little scary?

Not really if you look at it intellectually. While you may wholeheartedly disapprove of slavery, it is quite possible to disapprove of the manner in which it was abolished. But then again, a lot of people don't understand that Lincoln at the time was a wartime CiC and therefore had the power to issue that EO. It may have been illegal under different circumstances.
 
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We saw in a South Carolina poll that Trump supporters are more xenophobic, homophobic and racist than the rest of the SC Republicans. This should come as a surprise to no one.

Only you saw that.... because that is what you want to see.
 
As others have pointed out, the Economist/YouGov poll was asking the general population, not just Trump supporters.

The general population.


Any media outlet which portrays the 13 percent who answered "Disapprove somewhat" or "Disapprove strongly" as Trump supporters is propagandizing out of their ass.

It is disturbing, however, that 13 percent of Americans disapprove of the Emancipation Proclamation, and another 17 percent are unsure of their opinion on it.

It is also very disturbing that 18 percent disapprove of the desegregation of our armed forces, and another 24 percent are unsure how they feel about it.


Our country still has a long, long way to go.
 
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Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves

Question 49

5% of people strongly disapprove of freeing the slaves.

8% slightly disapprove.

Isn't that just a little scary?

Before asking about slavery, YouGov first asked two broader poll questions about executive orders: Do you approve of them, and do you think they're constitutional? Then they asked about specific presidential actions, including freeing the slaves, desegregating the military, interning Japanese Americans during World War II, and deferring deportation for some unauthorized immigrants.

Framing the question this way is a reminder that one of Lincoln's greatest acts, and a turning point in American history, was also a controversial exercise of presidential power. And it's stunning how many people can't bring themselves to say they approve of it.

Very Confusing to most people.
 
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Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves

Question 49

5% of people strongly disapprove of freeing the slaves.

8% slightly disapprove.

Isn't that just a little scary?
Did you expect people to not read through the poll or did you just accept a sensational headline downing Trump. No where did it mention Trump supporters and slavery. The only question I could find on the subject was Do you approve of executive orders that freed all slaves in states that were in rebellion. It did not mention Trump anywhere in that question.
 
The You.Gov poll was to the general population. Not Trump supporters. I'm on the link right now.

The Economist
/YouGov Poll
Sample 2000 General Population Respondents
Conducted January 15 - 19, 2016
Margin of Error
2.9%

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It's still dreadful Tiny...that people feel that way.....5% = approx. 18 Million Americans,steven
The margin of error is 2,9% whats left are probally trolls every poll has them.
 
"20% of Trump Supporters "disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves"

...more than 45% of college student asked in an on-the-ground survey could not name the Vice President, many others could not - like Obama - tell the correct number of states that made up the US.

...and your point is....
 
We saw in a South Carolina poll that Trump supporters are more xenophobic, homophobic and racist than the rest of the SC Republicans. This should come as a surprise to no one.

Only you saw that.... because that is what you want to see.

It's available for anyone to see:

Trump's support in South Carolina is built on a base of voters among whom religious and racial intolerance pervades. Among the beliefs of his supporters:

-70% think the Confederate flag should still be flying over the State Capital, to only 20% who agree with it being taken down. In fact 38% of Trump voters say they wish the South had won the Civil War to only 24% glad the North won and 38% who aren't sure. Overall just 36% of Republican primary voters in the state are glad the North emerged victorious to 30% for the South, but Trump's the only one whose supporters actually wish the South had won.
-

By an 80/9 spread, Trump voters support his proposed ban on Muslims entering the United States. In fact 31% would support a ban on homosexuals entering the United States as well, something no more than 17% of anyone else's voters think is a good idea. There's also 62/23 support among Trump voters for creating a national database of Muslims and 40/36 support for shutting down all the mosques in the United States, something no one else's voters back. Only 44% of Trump voters think the practice of Islam should even be legal at all in the United States, to 33% who think it should be illegal. To put all the views toward Muslims in context though, 32% of Trump voters continue to believe the policy of Japanese internment during World War II was a good one, compared to only 33% who oppose it and 35% who have no opinion one way or another.

Trump, Clinton Still Have Big SC Leads
 
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Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves

Question 49

5% of people strongly disapprove of freeing the slaves.

8% slightly disapprove.

Isn't that just a little scary?

Not really if you look at it intellectually. While you may wholeheartedly disapprove of slavery, it is quite possible to disapprove of the manner in which it was abolished. But then again, a lot of people don't understand that Lincoln at the time was a wartime CiC and therefore had the power to issue that EO. It may have been illegal under different circumstances.

I understand. But how many people do you think disapproved because of the manner in which it was done? I doubt many. They probably oppose because they're racist.

For most people, ending slavery, not matter how it was ended, is a good thing. They don't simply oppose everything that's ever been done by executive order.

There are enough people on boards like this that find reasons to support what they want to believe. Go on something like Stormfront and it'll be even worse.
 
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Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves

Question 49

5% of people strongly disapprove of freeing the slaves.

8% slightly disapprove.

Isn't that just a little scary?

Before asking about slavery, YouGov first asked two broader poll questions about executive orders: Do you approve of them, and do you think they're constitutional? Then they asked about specific presidential actions, including freeing the slaves, desegregating the military, interning Japanese Americans during World War II, and deferring deportation for some unauthorized immigrants.

Framing the question this way is a reminder that one of Lincoln's greatest acts, and a turning point in American history, was also a controversial exercise of presidential power. And it's stunning how many people can't bring themselves to say they approve of it.

Very Confusing to most people.

I understand what you're saying.

But then most people would say it doesn't matter how you abolish slavery, it was abolished.

How many people do you think have the presence of mind to say it would have been better to wait another 50 years for Congress to get around to doing it?

It's one of those things that is never done by Congress. There are far too many people in Congress representing people who just didn't want such things to happen.

Ending slavery, ending segregation, stopping bans on gay marriage were granted outside of Congress, only giving women the right to vote has passed with a Constitutional Amendment. The 14th Amendment only succeed because they forced Southern states to adopt it, or else get no Congressmen.

How many people do you think opposed the manner, but supported the action? I'd say not many.
 
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ctucuikdsj/econToplines.pdf

Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves

Question 49

5% of people strongly disapprove of freeing the slaves.

8% slightly disapprove.

Isn't that just a little scary?
Did you expect people to not read through the poll or did you just accept a sensational headline downing Trump. No where did it mention Trump supporters and slavery. The only question I could find on the subject was Do you approve of executive orders that freed all slaves in states that were in rebellion. It did not mention Trump anywhere in that question.

I posted the poll. Have a guess.

No, nowhere did it mention Trump.

However I'd also expect people to understand that the raw information could tell people more, hence why the New York Times reported that 20% of those who support Trump opposed the executive order banning slavery.

You think the NY Times would just say this for no reason?

Think about it. You're saying that the NY Times is lying because you can't see the statistics. Yet, the statistics might be a lie, someone might have just made that up.

So where do you stop when trying to find out what is true and not true? Do the survey yourself, then, only then, would be satisfied it's true?
 
20% of Trump Supporters "disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves"

Hardly unexpected.
 
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ctucuikdsj/econToplines.pdf

Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves

Question 49

5% of people strongly disapprove of freeing the slaves.

8% slightly disapprove.

Isn't that just a little scary?
Did you expect people to not read through the poll or did you just accept a sensational headline downing Trump. No where did it mention Trump supporters and slavery. The only question I could find on the subject was Do you approve of executive orders that freed all slaves in states that were in rebellion. It did not mention Trump anywhere in that question.

I posted the poll. Have a guess.

No, nowhere did it mention Trump.

However I'd also expect people to understand that the raw information could tell people more, hence why the New York Times reported that 20% of those who support Trump opposed the executive order banning slavery.

You think the NY Times would just say this for no reason?

Think about it. You're saying that the NY Times is lying because you can't see the statistics. Yet, the statistics might be a lie, someone might have just made that up.

So where do you stop when trying to find out what is true and not true? Do the survey yourself, then, only then, would be satisfied it's true?
The NY Time's is a biased old rag thats been caught several times making shit up.
 
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Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves

Question 49

5% of people strongly disapprove of freeing the slaves.

8% slightly disapprove.

Isn't that just a little scary?
Did you expect people to not read through the poll or did you just accept a sensational headline downing Trump. No where did it mention Trump supporters and slavery. The only question I could find on the subject was Do you approve of executive orders that freed all slaves in states that were in rebellion. It did not mention Trump anywhere in that question.

I posted the poll. Have a guess.

No, nowhere did it mention Trump.

However I'd also expect people to understand that the raw information could tell people more, hence why the New York Times reported that 20% of those who support Trump opposed the executive order banning slavery.

You think the NY Times would just say this for no reason?

Think about it. You're saying that the NY Times is lying because you can't see the statistics. Yet, the statistics might be a lie, someone might have just made that up.

So where do you stop when trying to find out what is true and not true? Do the survey yourself, then, only then, would be satisfied it's true?
The NY Time's is a biased old rag thats been caught several times making shit up.

Aren't all media outlets biased and been caught making shit up?

So why do you believe ANYTHING that is ever said in the media?

How do you come to believe some things? How do you know 9/11 happened?
 

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